salvia divinorum

[spazmunkee]

anyone have any experience with it? iv never done it before but i have some 40X salvia coming in the mail that my firend bought and i dont know what to expect. and i think 40x might be a lil strong.

whatchoo think?

[Homatek]

Well its fun, but depending on what you get the experience can be intense or not.

Kind of feels like somone is pushing you. I say try it and report back!!!

[HexRei]

i didn't like it at all. it's strong, but not in a good way. Like homatek said, it's like someone pushing you. In fact my first time I actually flew out of my chair (under my own power) because I felt like gravity had turned 90 degrees to my left.
It follows with a more trippy high, some people hear voices or have mild hallucinations but I just had head trip for a few minutes. I grew it for about two years because it's a pretty shade of green and during that time I never did it again, it's that unpleasant, imho.

[Hukt On Wax]

it made me feel like lego's and not in a good way either.... it's one of the only things i won't touch (again) do it with people you trust at least

[spazmunkee]

Originally posted by HexRei
I grew it for about two years because it's a pretty shade of green and during that time I never did it again,


yeah i know i saw your thread, i was worried you would lock mine because of yours, but yours is givi ng it away, mine is just discussion.

im pretty psyched for the 40x though

[spazmunkee]

Originally posted by Hukt On Wax
do it with people you trust at least

im trying to convince my mom to try it with me but i dont think she's gonna go for it seeing as she doesnt smoke or do drugs.

Originally posted by Homatek
Kind of feels like somone is pushing you. I say try it and report back!!!

i sure will

[spazmunkee]

Originally posted by Johnny Yo
Salvia is some strange, strange stuff. If you do it, make sure you're with others. You need to keep an eye on them when they do it, and they need to do the same.

Oh, and remember not to piss yourself. I know a couple people who have done that on the divinorum.

why shouldnt i do it alone? like what could happen? and how would having people around help?

[TappingAss]

four words: freaky uncontrollable bad trip.
It's not on the controlled substance list because who the hell would do it more than once..
yikes!
if you want to trip -stick with the shrooms or acid..

[Hukt On Wax]

it's a legal controlled substance i can pick 40x up at the smoke shop down the road from me... but yeah more often then not you'll have a bad trip if you smoke it either way.. your mom probably won't do it and if she does she'll curse your eyes for the events that will transpire... you honestly were better off getting cid or like a quarter of shrooms....

salvia doesn't last long though but it makes you paranoid.... make sure you put a pinch of it on a green bowl for starters at least for sanity sake

[J Renegade]

thats my opinion.

[spazmunkee]

so thats 5 votes against salvia, and one vote for it.

[Cedwyn]

fascinating. i never got that strong a reaction from it. it was just like a supersuper bong rip for me.

[Raichu]

personally, i have never done it, but i have been around people who did it and they all had the same reactioon too, about gravirty just trippin them out.

my friend was having a real hard time sitting in her chair, she was all leaning to the left and was pretty unresponsive. it was a lil scary for me to see her like that.

i'd reccomend 5MeoDmt instead though. my best friend just recently tried it and said it was fucking intense, fun high.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5meodmt
he smoked it in his car with his cousin and said the trip was way more intense than any shroom high or anything of the sort, plus it dditn last long, he said he was only high for about 30 mins. so thats good if you dont like the experience, its over soon.
as for ME, im done with hallucinogens...no more, last time i did shrooms i OVER did it....by a lot...it kind of sucked.

[Homatek]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
why shouldnt i do it alone? like what could happen? and how would having people around help?

Its always good to have ppl around you when you do something like that for the first time.
Incase you need someone to help you outta your bad trip or pick you up off the ground!

If you ever come across DMT...don't do that alone either!!!!!!!!

[Raichu]

Originally posted by Homatek

If you ever come across DMT...don't do that alone either!!!!!!!!

yeah, you are right, i should have said that as well, but pretty much ANY drug which you have never done before, you should have a sitter, its just a safe idea IN CASE anything goes wrong. dmt, shrooms, acid, whatever the case be, i would reccomend always having someone responsible there with ya the first time. :D

[NO-ESC]

Spazz...

It really depends on who what when and where you do it..

The gravity thing can be overwhelming...

I have always had a good time on it.. but then again ... I am known for taking Hallucinogens farther than anyone else..

[meeotch]

Yeah, I did it, and I didn't hate it, but it's weird. I didn't have any crazy trip, but I felt like I was twisting around an axis going chest to back and unfolding like a paper fan, if that makes any sence. I did it a couple more times after that, mostly to use it up, but I doubt I'd get it again. It's just too weird.

[meeotch]

Originally posted by Homatek
If you ever come across DMT...don't do that alone either!!!!!!!!

QFT. You could end up with a lump on your head for your troubles.

[cerridwen]

Here's a site that has some really good info on Salvia.

http://www.sagewisdom.org/

I tried making tea out of the leaves twice and never felt anything at all. Ehh, maybe I'm immune to it. :) I expected "something" though...

[Nukegrrrl]

Don't do this alone. It can be fun but pretty disorienting. I'd hate for you to fall down and get a concussion, or have a bad time & freak out your old lady neighbor more than you usually do :D

When I did it with several friends, I just remember us all falling to the floor like our knees were made of lead, and giggling uncontrollably for half an hour.

[IrisSilverMoon]

The reason this drug still hasn't been made illegal is because firstly it only lasts about 15 minutes, second, no one has done anything too stupid on it.

This is why you want someone with you when you do it (WHO IS SOBER) they keep you from trying to fly by jumping out of a window or running out into the street in front of some car. SO far this hasn't happened, so there really isn't a lot to go on for making it illegal. It will only take ONE bad incident before its illegal, so make sure you are discrete and have someone who is calming with you at all times.

[djsence]

Originally posted by Homatek


If you ever come across DMT...don't do that alone either!!!!!!!!




DMT is RAD!!!!!

[Tachie]

I've never even heard of this stuff. what is it?

[HexRei]

Originally posted by Cedwyn
fascinating. i never got that strong a reaction from it. it was just like a supersuper bong rip for me.

That's what its like if you aren't getting enough into your system... I didn't feel the full effects until I torched three huge hits one after the other with one of those high-temp lighters.

And ya people... DMT is the BEST.

[lovely]

Originally posted by Tachie
I've never even heard of this stuff. what is it?

http://erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml

My personal experience, I only did 10x and I smoked it out of a bong...it felt like my mind was turning like pages in a book...a very odd sensation.

I wouldn't say that I liked it, but I definitely wouldn't say that I disliked it either. Would I do it again? Sure, just to further my experience.

I've also heard about the "Salvia Goddess" who comes to you if you start doing it too much...

One of the best people to talk to about this is Travis. His board name is bLENDed, he's read up on this and has a lot of info.

[Tachie]

I think i'll just back away slowly again....

[lovely]

Originally posted by Tachie
I think i'll just back away slowly again....

Did you click that link I provided? And read up? I'm a firm believer in reading up on things you plan on doing or that your friends are even thinking of doing. Knowledge is power.

[Tachie]

I did read it. I will look at it more when i am at home and less likely to get caught looking and such things lol

[decepticon1]

ive had pretty extensive experience involving salvia divinorum, wizard smoke, and salvia 10x and 20x, selling the stuff at festies and letting people demo it

first things first, dont bother with teas, best method hands down is semi-fresh dried salvia in the ol' "tobacco waterpipe", also on that note, spend the 20 bucks for a new one to devote to smoking salvia. trust me on this, if you use your favorite bong or hookah, its gonna taste like bunghole for about 3 months and/or 6 cleanings

secondly, the effects are remarkably standard, ive seen 100lb college girls and bikers nearing 400 lbs have damn near the same effect. gravity issues, hypersensitivity to sound and vibration, itchiness and time distortion.. if youve truly been high on salvia, youll know its absolutely zero comparison to being stoned as it's pretty tough to be "uncomfortably stoned" as with salvia it can be very easy.

best enviroment for smoking salvia? a chair, nuff said.. i know you think youve smoked the dankest dank, but please, sit your ass in the chair, no trying to smoke while sitting on your 3rd story patio railing and isht, and as usual when trying new substances, have a couple people you trust around you, and a sober friend is always a good idea just in case

[A D I D A S]

I infused some salvia into one of my absinthe batches. that was some good shit :)

I like salvia, its great when lisening to loud music, you can see the music waves and feel them changing aspects of reality.

[Hollywood]

I've done it tons of times...even though i really dont like it...Ive always wanted my friends to experiance it...
Ive always smoked it out of a bong....you take the biggest hit you can and hold it in as long as you can...taste like shit...and its harsh...but hold it in....once you smoke it you start to sweat....and then it hits you like a baseball bat...and in the back of your head and, ive known alot of people to say this, you think its going to last forever....

One of my best friends said he experianced Memory Regretion...where it felt like he was pulled back from the current time period and placed in the past....and if you read up on this...this isnt very uncommon which is crazy..

Ive have the experiance every time that im sinking...or kinda being pulled down slowly to the left side....

honestly its like a NO2 but really really strong....

Music sounds mosaic.....you can hear almost every insturment.....

I say try it once...but in a dark room with good tunes on....not alot of other shit going on....if you like it...do it again...but ive done 40x purple stick salvia is what it ws called you can get it at most local smoke shops...and it works oh yeah...IT WORKS

[IrisSilverMoon]

Originally posted by decepticon1


secondly, the effects are remarkably standard, ive seen 100lb college girls and bikers nearing 400 lbs have damn near the same effect. gravity issues, hypersensitivity to sound and vibration, itchiness and time distortion.. if youve truly been high on salvia, youll know its absolutely zero comparison to being stoned as it's pretty tough to be "uncomfortably stoned" as with salvia it can be very easy.



that's because the drug is more potent than acid.

pretty much the most powerful hallucinogen out there.

[Burnside]

never again.

[xshank667x]

Originally posted by Tachie
I've never even heard of this stuff. what is it?



n00b!!!!!!!!


Dude 5MAO-DMT

Hillary and I did that shit last year...way to much at once....not a fun time.

But in moderate amounts it knocks your sox off.

[Tachie]

Originally posted by xshank667x
n00b!!!!!!!!


Dude 5MAO-DMT

Hillary and I did that shit last year...way to much at once....not a fun time.

But in moderate amounts it knocks your sox off.

Adam you worry me... Probably not something i should try.. wouldn't you think?

[xshank667x]

NO TRY IT!


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Tachie]

Originally posted by xshank667x
NO TRY IT!


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you ass lol y

[Mulder]

Try sticking an 8ball of blow up your ass.

Now that's a good time.

[Tachie]

Originally posted by Mulder
Try sticking an 8ball of blow up your ass.

Now that's a good time.

so i've heard. lol you sound like ziggy lol

[Mulder]

Then stick a few pills up there, along with a vile of lsd...


Then in a couple of hours make sure someone has a video camera...


That way they can record you firehose shitting a rainbow out your ass.

[Tachie]

only you would know...

[xshank667x]

I'd ask a raver if they wanted a pill...

Then tell them to open their mouth and close their eyes!

[Kosmicdog]

fuck that shit. Id sooner huff some glade.

[xshank667x]

Smoke Rockz

[Tachie]

burrys head in sand...

[dreamchild]

I think it's a really horrible idea to do 40x your first time. How are you even going to measure your dose?

But hey at least you won't die or anything.

(But your brain will be hit so hard with salvinorin a that it is highly possible you'll not remember a thing afterwards. :()

Do it in a dark room, that is very important. No music, it will only annoy you. And definitely do not mix it with alcohol, even a little bit.

Make sure you have someone with you in the next room that can reassure you things will be back to normal shortly if you think you've lost your mind. ;)

[Tachie]

this whole thing just seems like a bad idea to me...


says the one who smoked weed for the first time at festivus haha

[xshank667x]

Good then you wont know who kicks you LOL

[xshank667x]

Rachel isnt allowed to do hallucinagenics....PER ME!

She's to fucking n00b to handle it. Flat out. :D

[Tachie]

Originally posted by xshank667x
Rachel isnt allowed to do hallucinagenics....PER ME!

She's to fucking n00b to handle it. Flat out. :D

i think i'm just fine without drugs... i can get pretty crazy sober haha

[xshank667x]

You're just fucked up in the head in general.

You have to be...

We're still talking after highschool LOL

[dreamchild]

OH and you should listen to this first!

http://www.earthrites.org/sunday%20mp3s/Cliff%20Anderson%20before%20sasha.mp3

:D

[Tachie]

Originally posted by xshank667x
You're just fucked up in the head in general.

You have to be...

We're still talking after highschool LOL

You just keep in mind that its your fault i'm even on here to begin with... I blame you! lol

[Tachie]

the fucked up thing is i trusted a stranger to get me stoned rather than you... cause i knew how much you would've fucked with me!

[lovely]

Originally posted by Tachie
You just keep in mind that its your fault i'm even on here to begin with... I blame you! lol

Yep, you got sucked in, like the rest of us.

[Tachie]

Originally posted by lovely
Yep, you got sucked in, like the rest of us.

and i just keep falling further!!!!!! aaaaahhhh

I'm supposed to be the preppy little country girl... what happened adam??? lol

[xshank667x]

Hey I only invited you to the party...you're the one that came.



And yes....


I wouldve fucked with you the whole time :D


Because I'm cool like dat.

[Tachie]

wait a min... you did get me jacked up... remember??? and your crazy ass girl (who i almost killed at festivus btw) kept trying to sell me shitty stuff... i'll kill her if i see her again..

[xshank667x]

Hey that wasnt my problem LOL


I told you you could have waited.

[Tachie]

that wasn't my first time dumb ass lol

[Tachie]

Originally posted by xshank667x
Rachel isnt allowed to do hallucinagenics....PER ME!

She's to fucking n00b to handle it. Flat out. :D

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u246/orgy_photo/cat.jpg

[Freshmaker]

Tons of good vids on Youtube...this guy turns into a howler monkey!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH2-gTK8YNY

This guy croaks a lot...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FcghJ5kAs8

[taya50]

Go to www.erowid.com and go to salvia vault for all the info you need. You should probably do it with another friend and a sitter who you trust. A good way to do it is you can chew some bubble gum, take it out, flatten the gun, put some extract on it, fold it, chew, and let your 10 minute trip commence. Just don't be scurred and you'll be alright. Watch out for the corners between walls, they can sometimes open up and suck you through to a land of loud, blue light.

Good luck!

[lovely]

Originally posted by taya50
Go to www.erowid.com and go to salvia vault for all the info you need.

Yep! Erowid is awsome, I posted the link to the Salvia vault. It's on like the second page or something.

[taya50]

Originally posted by lovely
Yep! Erowid is awsome, I posted the link to the Salvia vault. It's on like the second page or something.

oh, my bad, i didnt look. But yeah, erowid is my favorite. I love to read about the trip disasters.

[spazmunkee]

ok so dark rom, no music, and a sober friend .

i think im gonna try it in my garage on the big couch. but m gonna bring all my ravey lights in their and have my friend hit the fog machine as i exhale.

but im gonna have music. im gonna make some psyHHC

its gonna be fun.

and as for DMT, my friend gave me a hit of hers but i think i got the ass end of the bowl because it was SOO gross and i was puking into a whirling toilet.

it was hella fun.

[spazmunkee]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
i was puking into a whirling toilet.

it was hella fun.

thats sig worthy :D

[lovely]

What is DMT like? I hear it's some intense shit.

[HexRei]

Originally posted by spazmunkee

and as for DMT, my friend gave me a hit of hers but i think i got the ass end of the bowl because it was SOO gross and i was puking into a whirling toilet.



I've done a lot of DMT and never puked from it. Are you sure it wasn't DXM that you smoked? that's notorious for making people sick.

[spazmunkee]

no i think the pipe had been used for other things....


smoking dxm? you can do that?

[lovely]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
thats sig worthy :D

Check it.

[spazmunkee]

Originally posted by lovely
Check it.

i returned the favor ^__________^

[lovely]

lol but dude, you gotta sig something funny!

Maybe this?

Originally posted by lovely
Yeah I'd love to jerk off in someone's tea...only I don't have a cock to jerk off with :x

That's probably the funniest thing I've said haha

[spazmunkee]

their i changed it

[lovely]

Lol you missed it. I'll catch that for you next time ;)

[HexRei]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
no i think the pipe had been used for other things....


smoking dxm? you can do that?

ya... but its toxic and will make you sick. ergo...

[Tachie]

I'm out ... see you guys later!

[spazmunkee]

Originally posted by HexRei
ya... but its toxic and will make you sick. ergo...

thatd doesnt sound like fun.

but smokeable DXM would be the only way id do it, but unless someones is giving away smokable dxm, i doubt ill do it, im not much for drugs.

[James Capricorn]

Smoked some 30X on the fourth. Don't mess around with salvia. Respect her. She's a real bitch when you abuse her. Remember, it's all about intention!

[spazmunkee]

Originally posted by James Capricorn
She's a real bitch when you abuse her.

how should i bee nice to her?

[lovely]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
how should i bee nice to her?

Don't overdo it...why don't you google salvia and look it up? Remember the mention of the salvia goddess? I've heard several accounts of her, and I heard she's an entity that fucks with you if you abuse it.

[dreamchild]

you should really listen to that thing i posted. it's a hilarious but very accurate description of sally.

[Newb]

I watched two people trip out on Salvia. It was pretty funny. They couldn't even talk at first they just moved around funny... I wish I had video taped it...

[lovely]

Originally posted by taya50
I love to read about the trip disasters.

:p :p they really have that? Damn, off to erowid I go.

[Hukt On Wax]

i dunno if anyone posted this but yeah...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl08Tnun82k
:D

[More Wise]

hmm, i grow the stuff.. never bothered with 30x though..

too each their own i guess.

[JiveTurkeyMoFo]

Only did Salvia once and it was sent to a co-worker (aztec indian...i believe) from his family in mexico regularly. No bong rip just a moderate toke from a pipe. A lot of the descriptions on here seem like half-trips or weak salvia as my experience was a rapid departure from all reality. Absolutly no sense of anything relating to this planet. It was one hell of an experience that I will never forget....never again.

[lovely]

My friend told me about her trip once...the salvia took her on a tour of her house. She was on her couch floating (with the couch) through the house, going in and out of rooms and the couch shrunk in width to fit through the doors

[Tachie]

Originally posted by lovely
My friend told me about her trip once...the salvia took her on a tour of her house. She was on her couch floating (with the couch) through the house, going in and out of rooms and the couch shrunk in width to fit through the doors

Now that sounds fun.

[HexRei]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
thatd doesnt sound like fun.

but smokeable DXM would be the only way id do it, but unless someones is giving away smokable dxm, i doubt ill do it, im not much for drugs.

when I say toxic I mean very toxic, it's much more dangerous to smoke it, you can die easily and it wont get you high.. doesnt stop people though.

[lovely]

Originally posted by HexRei
when I say toxic I mean very toxic, it's much more dangerous to smoke it, you can die easily and it wont get you high.. doesnt stop people though.

People are stupid.:rolleyes:

[Tachie]

Originally posted by lovely
People are stupid.:rolleyes:

you think?

[DJPr1ncess]

didn't do anything bad to me just made me feel hella stoned.

[Tachie]

Originally posted by DJPr1ncess
didn't do anything bad to me just made me feel hella stoned.

I haven't decided if i even like that feeling yet hah

[xshank667x]

That's because you're dumb. :D

[Yungrii Mobliatri]

Originally posted by Hukt On Wax
i dunno if anyone posted this but yeah...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl08Tnun82k
:D


wow... really?

talking about your drug intake and preferences online and to friends and to whomever is one thing... but you really want to post a video of you smoking and then getting high of your balls online, and on one of the top websites at that?

really?

this person doesnt think this could possibly be a bad idea? that this could possibly come back to haunt him one day?

[xshank667x]

People are stupid.

[Yungrii Mobliatri]

yea, i'm sadly aware.. that video just brought into a bit clearer perspective for a few minutes.

[Tachie]

Originally posted by xshank667x
That's because you're dumb. :D

I blame you.

[xshank667x]

Blame your family for keeping you so fucking sheltered.

[Tachie]

Originally posted by xshank667x
Blame your family for keeping you so fucking sheltered.

wahts funny is my parents smoke pot... a lot... and i never knew... i went about my merry life listening to country music and wearing pink.. never knowing.

[wingnut]

^^ LOL that's funny. When I was a teenager my Dad smoked pot with his friends and I never knew either!! I never got drunk or stoned until I was eighteen - I was a goody goody too :)

[Tachie]

Originally posted by wingnut
^^ LOL that's funny. When I was a teenager my Dad smoked pot with his friends and I never knew either!! I never got drunk or stoned until I was eighteen - I was a goody goody too :)

Dude at least i'm not the only one!!ha

[*LyNnZ*]

SALVIA IS GAY
stick to weed
fuck its a waste of money
i was bored and bought some down on broadway and yea ive done it before but the shit sucks
actually i just smoked some since i have it
nothing special at all thats prolly why its legal... :o

[djed]

http://www.natural-herbals.com/images/herbalsmokeshophalfpage2sml.jpg

http://images.andale.com/118/111/4452335/989281666795_HydrobagPG.gif

lame

[DJ Nikon]

usually the people who say they dont like Salvia, is because they smoked something like 5x or 10x

you wanna talk shit after smoking 60x or 75x? :D probably not lol

its not all that wonderful though honestly, I'd rather stick to bud
but to try something with a higher potency than just 20x and below isnt so bad

BUT I MAKE THIS STATEMENT
NOT ALL PSYCHEDELICS ARE FOR EVERYONE
do not try these sorts of drugs if you are slightly afraid of them or afraid of loosing control

[xshank667x]

Yeah dude most definatly!!!

[A D I D A S]

Originally posted by DJ Nikon
usually the people who say they dont like Salvia, is because they smoked something like 5x or 10x


I've smoked just salvia leaf, aka 1x, and had very strong effects, its just knowing how to smoke it correctly, and not getting fake shit.

[spazmunkee]

ok so i got the salvia, they sent me 40x cherry, which wasnt what i ordered but oh well.
it didnt do that much, it kinda felt like the side of my vision was a hole. and i couldnt really find my right arm, like nitrouse but a pulsing uncomfortableness. i took a hit, and i was gonna take another but the table felt really far away from me when i put the piece down.

its weird.

but the mango tango tobacco flavoring is SOO good.



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/spazmunkee/pocket-bong_blue.jpg

[spazmunkee]

i got lost looking @ the garage cieling, i couldnt find the door.

[equip]

The taste stands out the most for me. At best, it is like peaking on mushrooms for about 30 seconds; the rest is the burning or that taste of harsh greens . A tincture is in order.

[Raichu]

wtf is up with that stupid shit legal bud?! haha that shit sucks. it doesnt even get you stoned

[dreamchild]

You need a torch, something that gets really hot. That is key. Take a hit, hold it and try to count to 30. If you can still do it after that, take another and count again. If you can still do it after that, repeat.

[lovely]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
i got lost looking @ the garage ceiling, and i couldn't find the door.

LOL

[djed]

i smoke a ton of this opium crap some guy i knew in HS bought out of hightimes.... it was a burgandy crystal rock type of crap, i did not get me high at all, and it ruined the taste of the weed we put it on.

legal highs suck,

although once my friend had some salvia and i only took a couple of hits, i forget how i did it, but he had me hit it a special way, and was as high as ive ever been for about five min.

but one of my friends oredered some salvia off the internet and we smoked a ton and it did not do anything.

[DJ Nikon]

I've seen people trip off Salvia leaf alone, just a few hits

but then again, I've seen (and experienced) people flipping out on 60-75x before

Definetly the problem is not getting bunked, getting mismarked packs, or having some douchebag sell it to you as something else or hype it up.

Any and all drugs are to be respected. Treat them like you would your best friend, be kind to them and be responsible.

hooka tobacco....sheehsa? something like that
I've smoked some of that before, wasnt too bad, but its not for inhaling
so its about as useful as smoking a cheap fat cigar

[balls]

yeah i had some 40 shit before, i was out at my friends beachhouse in ocean shores and i smoked one big fat hit, blew it out and fealt the effect pretyt much right away

and about 1/4 of the way into another hit i fealt like gravity was all the sudden pulling towards the bong, as if the mouthpiece was the central axis of gravity, it really fealt like it was 2g's or stronger. it was fucking insane

then i guess i eventually fell onto the floor and just feal like my body was dissolving into the rug, i really cant explain it well, but it was fucking intense. thje come down was awesome, the colors seemed really vivid and smooth. it was like eating a couple shrooms and popping an x. it was pretty cool, with the whole high was like that, it be on that shit 24/7

[lovely]

Originally posted by DJ Nikon
Any and all drugs are to be respected. Treat them like you would your best friend, be kind to them and be responsible.

QFT!!!

[xshank667x]

I'm still waiting for cocaine to give me a reach around.

[Kosmicdog]

Originally posted by djed
i smoke a ton of this opium crap some guy i knew in HS bought out of hightimes.... it was a burgandy crystal rock type of crap, i did not get me high at all, and it ruined the taste of the weed we put it on.

http://www.newagemerchant.com/wejees/images/IGDRA.jpg

you can make alot of money off that stuff if you wanna be shady :D

[spazmunkee]

ok so i had the WORST most embarrasing salvia experience ever.
i am never doing salvia again.

[djed]

Originally posted by spazmunkee



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/spazmunkee/pocket-bong_blue.jpg



this is awsome

[djed]

Originally posted by Kosmicdog
http://www.newagemerchant.com/wejees/images/IGDRA.jpg

you can make alot of money off that stuff if you wanna be shady :D


yeah this was the stuff....GROSS !

[equip]

Not as gross as smoking resin out of a popcan that came from another popcan that wasn’t rinsed and had dead ants in it, with paper matches.

[Hukt On Wax]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
ok so i had the WORST most embarrasing salvia experience ever.
i am never doing salvia again.

lame

[wingnut]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
ok so i had the WORST most embarrasing salvia experience ever.
i am never doing salvia again.

DETAILS!

[Raichu]

Originally posted by equip
Not as gross as smoking resin out of a popcan that came from another popcan that wasn’t rinsed and had dead ants in it, with paper matches.
desperation is a terrible thing. i can remember one point i wanted weed so badly i went into my parents bathroom (thats where they hid their buds) and combed the carpet for fractions of leaves.

i think i got like 1/32nd of a hit. (man i dont miss being 15)

[James Capricorn]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
ok so i had the WORST most embarrasing salvia experience ever.
i am never doing salvia again.

we warned you

[Nukegrrrl]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
i got lost looking @ the garage cieling, i couldnt find the door. Your garage is a scary place even when sober! I can't believe you tripped on salvia for the 1st time in there - you're a brave soul :p

[decepticon1]

There's going to be a "Komo 4 Danger Watch" exclusive tonight on what they referred to as the most dangerous up and coming drug out there that will make your kids (direct quote here) "Lose touch with reality, hallucinate, and act possessed"

theyre going to show a bunch of youtube videos of kids being high, how you can easily purchase it from local smokeshops and how its *cue dramatic sound effect* COMPLETELY LEGAL

i completely agree, ive done my fair share of salvia, those are exactly the effects, if not worse.

I just kind of have a grudge against media who sensationalize everything. especially when their story about salvia isnt so much as a

"hey keep an eye out, this stuff can really kick you or your kids' ass"
but more like
"THIS WILL KILL YOUR BABIES!!!"

you know there will most likely be an entire lack of case studies, medical opinions regarding long/short term damage, or likelihood of addiction, or anything even remotely insightful.

dunno, i could argue about mainstream media all day.. but i knew a few kids on here have done or are thinking about doing salvia and thought they might like to know its going to be on.

[spazmunkee]

what time?

[spazmunkee]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/spazmunkee/pocket-bong_blue.jpg

this doesnt work anymore. not the highest quality make of it though.

[Kosmicdog]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4829797616419921428&q=salvia+divinorum&total=328&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

good documentary.

[Outer limits]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
anyone have any experience with it? iv never done it before but i have some 40X salvia coming in the mail that my firend bought and i dont know what to expect. and i think 40x might be a lil strong.

whatchoo think?

salvia belongs in the hands of expierienced shamans.The types of people who have a whole box of herbs that no one knows what they do but them and the native peoples that they worked for.

I feel the same about amanitas, datura ,monkshood, thornapple, nightshade and to even some extent pysilosibin mushrooms.

40x is a bit ballsy for your first go at it.Someone I know thought his best friends threw him into traffic on 10x and this man is sane as one can be I guess (for one willing to try this shit)I have tried the x's and have found the best is straight 1x organic plant material because you can controll exacly how much you get.I stopped smoking salvia entirely though.The plant was not meant to be what it has become and im not the right type of person to do it.

Find an experienced shaman to help you.At least someone who has a fundamental respect for the origin and power of the plant who can guide you through it.

Stay away from rave parties (or any parties or large gatherings) with sacred substances till you are assured you have mastered them and sometimes true mastery is to admit defeat and realize that a chemical is not meant for a certain zone.You will know the difference or the chemical will make you know

Salvia is not legal to get high on by the way.Its legal to have.It will probably say on the package do not smoke.You may be able to have a criminal charge if you are found smoking it especially being a minor.This is the way with most things just like buying a "water pipe" legal to have and not legal to use.

[Outer limits]

Originally posted by dreamchild
You need a torch, something that gets really hot. That is key. Take a hit, hold it and try to count to 30. If you can still do it after that, take another and count again. If you can still do it after that, repeat.
oxygen depravation will get you high

[Kandigirl]

Heres a site where you can buy lollipops made out of the stuff. Wouldnt that be great for parties lol!

http://edible.com/shop/browse.php?cmd=showproduct&productId=21

[FREEEZZ]

I didn't even bother to read this thread but it has already all been said at least twice.

http://nwtekno.org/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86657&highlight=salvia

[speedjay]

the komo story...
http://www.komotv.com/news/local/11336136.html

[TeenaBobeena]

I smoked salvia two summers ago and didn't get high.. I just got a headache.. Everyone else I was with tripped balls. It was funny.

But I wouldn't do it alone, like everyone else said.

[Khaotix]

ive had some crazy ass experiances on salvia..... i smoked a shitload of 20x and the closest thing i can relate it to was something inbetween mushrooms n acid but at the same time completely different..... just do it n find out.... its one of those things that you just have to find out for yourself, everybody has a different experiance.....

[andrielle]

hey guys, check out this site I just found: www.salviasociety.org I heard about it on Fox News last night. The guy who owns it was talking how he's trying to stop legislation in different states from banning the herb. I hope he succeeds, meanwhile they just banned it in my State (Minnesota) :mad:

[DB Cooper]

salvia is an opiate receptor antagonist, why a bad strong trip can hurt. i personally just like eating it sometimes.
any opposition to the antagonist action, since we are all victims of medical opiates, at least ancestrally, is like a junkie stabbing to death all living humans. there are many african cacti that have this same action, with a quinine kick, a sharper amphetamine, I just did some before I discovered this thread


here is one I don't own, but my favorite Pachypodium Lamerei ~ Live Cactus Succulent Plant ~
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pachypodium-Lamerei-Live-Cactus-Succulent-Plant_W0QQitemZ380118217485QQcategoryZ25463QQcmdZV iewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m215QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC% 26its%3DI%252BC%252BS%252BIA%26itu%3DIT%252BUA%252 BUCC%252BUCI%252BUS-BWR%26otn%3D8%26ps%3D33

madagascar is a place with no insects

[gingerballs]

I suggest you inject it into your eye ball, but that's just me.

once again spazz, stop doing drugs and read a fucking book.

[DB Cooper]

my favorite salvia allegory is how the military made this opiate receptor antagonist that, since salvia only holds up the first opiate receptor and creates dxm at the rest, MK-801 held up the second receptor and destroyed "all the rest" most people only have 5, but as tulips make you grow more opiate receptors, the dutch colonized south africa and brought the first slaves to america, and hitler was just making fun of the dutch with his farce, the name mk-801, or masters of the klan ate opiates and owe what won the war, its just funny
24-100

[Andromeda.]

The reason this drug still hasn't been made illegal is because firstly it only lasts about 15 minutes, second, no one has done anything too stupid on it.

This is why you want someone with you when you do it (WHO IS SOBER) they keep you from trying to fly by jumping out of a window or running out into the street in front of some car. SO far this hasn't happened, so there really isn't a lot to go on for making it illegal. It will only take ONE bad incident before its illegal, so make sure you are discrete and have someone who is calming with you at all times.

hmmz. i know this is an old post, but salvia isn't your stereotypical-fears-of-flying-out-the-window hallucinogen. you can barely move. shit knocks your ass out like whoa.



as far as my own experiences....jesus christ.

i think there is something about this drug that....as quasimystic new -agey and bullshit as this is about to sound...there's something about this drug that, i think, taps into some very base shared-consciousness-type imagery that we all have in the old reptile brain? to some extent? shit like jungles and smoldering weather patterns and heat and certain visceral sensations and whatnot. ugh i don't know. anyway.

the first time i smoked it, i immediately started falling -- very very heavily -- into a tunnel, as if i were that streak of metal that goes down keanu's throat in the matrix. i think this might have been exacerbated by the fact that i started freaking out thinking i was being suffocated and about to fall into a seizure / coma, and trying to stand up to save myself. nope! instead my stupid ass fell onto the floor ("down the tunnel"); i remember reaching out to my friend and saying "i can't breathe help meeeeeeeee" and it was all slow motion and robotic sounding just like the movie too. lol. and then i became the floor. i can't even fucking describe it but dammit i was the floor.

i was suddenly dumped into an ancient aztec-mayan-whatever-style ancient jungle with giant bird gods everywhere. two of them, martes and miercoles decided to grace me with their ancient knowledge and tell me the secrets of the universe. fucking lol. they were speaking to me in this crazy language but i understood every word of it. they were all sparkly and crackling with electricity, neon bright with incredibly long beaks that they started to shuffle together over and over and over while lightning cracked off of them, their heads morphing all around eachother and sprouting about again and again...trying to simulate how cycles and entities feed off eachother and create anew is how i understood it? shit was fucking bananas. this visuals at that point were stellar.

after a far-too-short stretch of time (which my friend said was about a minute, maybe two) i felt myself coming back up through the floor and was painfully aware of my breathing. like it was just going to stop any moment, and that i'd watch myself die. i started talking at that point and being more aware of my surroundings, but still heard the birds talking to me and also i wondered why i was a part of the giant checkered floor at a shopping mall and why my friend wasn't getting me out of it. it made no god damn sense and i was aware that none of it was real but still completely believing in all of it, if that makes sense.

after i was finally able to peel myself off the floor, i took another rip and the birds came back, but they were much more subtle and everything was dark. instead of a bright hot crackling jungle it was dark and smoldering, the bird gods were white (but still shimmering a bit while shuffling their beaks) and instead of talking to me they murmured inside my head. my friend tried to talk to me a few times but i had to shush him because [approximately] "they're telling me some really important shit in a language i don't know, so i kinda want to catch this." so even though i knew i was sitting on a couch in an apartment in WA USA i was still pretty convinced that these god creatures were very real and very much telling me something godlike.

15 minutes later i was completely sober and completely drained. salvia takes a lot out of you. it makes it really hard to move because despite head sobriety you are still heavy and drowsy as fuck. i couldn't even go home. i just stuffed my face with munchies real quick and fell into an amazingly peaceful, coma-like sleep on the couch isntead.


there's more but i'm sick of typing.

[IrisSilverMoon]

hmmz. i know this is an old post, but salvia isn't your stereotypical-fears-of-flying-out-the-window hallucinogen. you can barely move. shit knocks your ass out like whoa.

yeah, and i've seen video of people doing the opposite. Generally i wouldn't recommend someone doing it without a sober friend to sit and keep you out of trouble.

hey guys, check out this site I just found: www.salviasociety.org I heard about it on Fox News last night. The guy who owns it was talking how he's trying to stop legislation in different states from banning the herb. I hope he succeeds, meanwhile they just banned it in my State (Minnesota) :mad:

you posted this exact same message on seattleDnB, this is the wierdest spam I've come across...

[Andromeda.]

yeah, and i've seen video of people doing the opposite. Generally i wouldn't recommend someone doing it without a sober friend to sit and keep you out of trouble.


for sure. i wouldn't do it alone. no way!

i'd never heard of that. everything i've read, my experiences, & my friend's experiences have all pointed to dropping like the titanic. different strokes i suppose. i woulnd't have guessed that was even possible.

[DB Cooper]

I don't even do this but its good to p0ut a bit under your gum and stay on it, you can figure alot out

[DB Cooper]

hmmz. i know this is an old post, but salvia isn't your stereotypical-fears-of-flying-out-the-window hallucinogen. you can barely move. shit knocks your ass out like whoa.



as far as my own experiences....jesus christ.

i think there is something about this drug that....as quasimystic new -agey and bullshit as this is about to sound...there's something about this drug that, i think, taps into some very base shared-consciousness-type imagery that we all have in the old reptile brain? to some extent? shit like jungles and smoldering weather patterns and heat and certain visceral sensations and whatnot. ugh i don't know. anyway.

the first time i smoked it, i immediately started falling -- very very heavily -- into a tunnel, as if i were that streak of metal that goes down keanu's throat in the matrix. i think this might have been exacerbated by the fact that i started freaking out thinking i was being suffocated and about to fall into a seizure / coma, and trying to stand up to save myself. nope! instead my stupid ass fell onto the floor ("down the tunnel"); i remember reaching out to my friend and saying "i can't breathe help meeeeeeeee" and it was all slow motion and robotic sounding just like the movie too. lol. and then i became the floor. i can't even fucking describe it but dammit i was the floor.

i was suddenly dumped into an ancient aztec-mayan-whatever-style ancient jungle with giant bird gods everywhere. two of them, martes and miercoles decided to grace me with their ancient knowledge and tell me the secrets of the universe. fucking lol. they were speaking to me in this crazy language but i understood every word of it. they were all sparkly and crackling with electricity, neon bright with incredibly long beaks that they started to shuffle together over and over and over while lightning cracked off of them, their heads morphing all around eachother and sprouting about again and again...trying to simulate how cycles and entities feed off eachother and create anew is how i understood it? shit was fucking bananas. this visuals at that point were stellar.

after a far-too-short stretch of time (which my friend said was about a minute, maybe two) i felt myself coming back up through the floor and was painfully aware of my breathing. like it was just going to stop any moment, and that i'd watch myself die. i started talking at that point and being more aware of my surroundings, but still heard the birds talking to me and also i wondered why i was a part of the giant checkered floor at a shopping mall and why my friend wasn't getting me out of it. it made no god damn sense and i was aware that none of it was real but still completely believing in all of it, if that makes sense.

after i was finally able to peel myself off the floor, i took another rip and the birds came back, but they were much more subtle and everything was dark. instead of a bright hot crackling jungle it was dark and smoldering, the bird gods were white (but still shimmering a bit while shuffling their beaks) .

Opiates are funny that way. I had a trip once where it felt like I was being cut with sharp green reptile (if reptiles were a plant) mandalas. it was for the better. I have never done as much as where I would see the souls of bad people being kept in the birds, who were junkies. everyone has a personal original opiate withdrawl symptom. WS Burroughs' was the cold burn. as dinosaurs were chlorophyll based plant parasites and stuff like that with opiates, carnivorous plants and all, a mint/protien solvent that holds up the opiate receptors is very beneficial and those african cactuses are good to complete the cycle. I have found yucca to be all receptor salvia and maybe it was a type of wisteria that was salvia rolling off your head like drops of water, the kind that looks like lizards. pineapple leaves are salvia's mescaline (aka placebo paranoia comedown)
I think eelgrass is a vinyl salvia, and most palms are of some kind or another
I like palmarosa, a plant commonly put in love continuing after death mixtures and possibly why they greeted Jesus with palms on that sunday, he was all hopped up on incense and some said anyone could do that

[DB Cooper]

there is no known cure to opiate addiction, but apomorphine, sold in the UK as Uprima and supressed by the ameriklan medical establishment, reverses any metabolism of anything you take it with and is made by boiling morphine with hydrochloric acid
I would like to do this stuff with salvia and maybe a litle opium in cycles

[fuerve]

hmmz. i know this is an old post, but salvia isn't your stereotypical-fears-of-flying-out-the-window hallucinogen. you can barely move. shit knocks your ass out like whoa.



as far as my own experiences....jesus christ.

i think there is something about this drug that....as quasimystic new -agey and bullshit as this is about to sound...there's something about this drug that, i think, taps into some very base shared-consciousness-type imagery that we all have in the old reptile brain? to some extent? shit like jungles and smoldering weather patterns and heat and certain visceral sensations and whatnot. ugh i don't know. anyway.

the first time i smoked it, i immediately started falling -- very very heavily -- into a tunnel, as if i were that streak of metal that goes down keanu's throat in the matrix. i think this might have been exacerbated by the fact that i started freaking out thinking i was being suffocated and about to fall into a seizure / coma, and trying to stand up to save myself. nope! instead my stupid ass fell onto the floor ("down the tunnel"); i remember reaching out to my friend and saying "i can't breathe help meeeeeeeee" and it was all slow motion and robotic sounding just like the movie too. lol. and then i became the floor. i can't even fucking describe it but dammit i was the floor.

i was suddenly dumped into an ancient aztec-mayan-whatever-style ancient jungle with giant bird gods everywhere. two of them, martes and miercoles decided to grace me with their ancient knowledge and tell me the secrets of the universe. fucking lol. they were speaking to me in this crazy language but i understood every word of it. they were all sparkly and crackling with electricity, neon bright with incredibly long beaks that they started to shuffle together over and over and over while lightning cracked off of them, their heads morphing all around eachother and sprouting about again and again...trying to simulate how cycles and entities feed off eachother and create anew is how i understood it? shit was fucking bananas. this visuals at that point were stellar.

after a far-too-short stretch of time (which my friend said was about a minute, maybe two) i felt myself coming back up through the floor and was painfully aware of my breathing. like it was just going to stop any moment, and that i'd watch myself die. i started talking at that point and being more aware of my surroundings, but still heard the birds talking to me and also i wondered why i was a part of the giant checkered floor at a shopping mall and why my friend wasn't getting me out of it. it made no god damn sense and i was aware that none of it was real but still completely believing in all of it, if that makes sense.

after i was finally able to peel myself off the floor, i took another rip and the birds came back, but they were much more subtle and everything was dark. instead of a bright hot crackling jungle it was dark and smoldering, the bird gods were white (but still shimmering a bit while shuffling their beaks) and instead of talking to me they murmured inside my head. my friend tried to talk to me a few times but i had to shush him because [approximately] "they're telling me some really important shit in a language i don't know, so i kinda want to catch this." so even though i knew i was sitting on a couch in an apartment in WA USA i was still pretty convinced that these god creatures were very real and very much telling me something godlike.

15 minutes later i was completely sober and completely drained. salvia takes a lot out of you. it makes it really hard to move because despite head sobriety you are still heavy and drowsy as fuck. i couldn't even go home. i just stuffed my face with munchies real quick and fell into an amazingly peaceful, coma-like sleep on the couch isntead.


there's more but i'm sick of typing.

This sounds totally fucking awesome.

[Andromeda.]

it is.
______

[gingerballs]

I can't believe you guys are still talking about something so lame as Salvia.

Fuck man, that was a dead issue about 7 years ago.

It sucks, period.

[Andromeda.]

that's cool if you don't like it, but i think that centuries of use in ancient cultures through to present-day use would have to disagree.

[HexRei]

glad you like the stuff carolyn, I wish I did! :)

unfortunately I hated smoking salvia. i cant stand losing control and that's exactly what happened to me every time i did it. same reason i dont do K or DXM eitehr. falling out of my chair because gravity has just rotated 90 degrees is just not something i am comfortable with.

However, I think the salvia plant is very pretty, the concave angular square stalk is a vibrant beautiful green so I grew it for about three years straight and distributed cutting to various people. did you know salvia is seedless and can only reproduce through pieces of it dropping off and rooting (the stalks have "joints" that are quite brittle and will snap when the branch becomes too heavy) or human cultivation?

[HexRei]

i just don't like being considered lame because i enjoyed something.

that's just classic rob ;)

[gingerballs]

I don't remember calling her lame for enjoying a lame drug.

Words never came out of my mouth or fingers.

If you want to waste your time and money on this shit then go crazy, I'm not going to judge you.

that's cool if you don't like it, but i think that centuries of use in ancient cultures through to present-day use would have to disagree.


What is your point? Just because some cave dwellers smoked something doesn't make it awesome or disprove that it is a lame drug.

[Andromeda.]

normally i absolutely can't stand losing any control of myself either. it's the main reason why i was never into doing drugs in public, getting completely retarded on E at raves and all that shit. i've always been really cautious with hallucinogens as well, either completely avoiding them or taking very tiny doses. i've never blacked out drinking. / self-control freak

this one is different. probably because it's an incredibly strong experience but it only lasts a couple minutes so you are never in any real danger.

that's pretty interesting stuff peter...sounds almost too delicate to exist ;)

I don't remember calling her lame for enjoying a lame drug.

Words never came out of my mouth or fingers.

If you want to waste your time and money on this shit then go crazy, I'm not going to judge you.

it's all good. it sort of came across that way but i thought better of it, realized you probably didn't mean it like that, and deleted :) unfortunately for me hex is a ninja post-nabber boooooooo! ;)

ive only done it three times well over a year ago and don't foresee buying any for myself (it was a friend's) but i still think it was pretty rad.

[gingerballs]

LOL

I got negative rep points and this comment "your a stupid with a high cunt factor." for posting in this thread.

OMG NO I'm "a stupid".

the passive aggressive illiterate douche bags on this site will never cease to amuse me.

[Andromeda.]

What is your point? Just because some cave dwellers smoked something doesn't make it awesome or disprove that it is a lame drug.

actually, my point was sort of similar to you. just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it's completely worthless, not worth talking about, and not worth doing.

works both ways.

[gingerballs]

I guess we cancel each other out.

And if I thought you were lame I would tell you directly.

LOL another passive aggressive ass gave me negative rep.

How much neg rep do I need before my little bars on my posts turn red too? Fuck green.

[Andromeda.]

i dont think you think i'm lame. the post sort of came across that way but i thought better of it and deleted.

[HexRei]

yay, we're all friends! *dances around in a beautiful field with a crown of flowers on my head*

[gingerballs]

i dont think you think i'm lame..

Its because you got a sweet ass and a soft voice lol.

[LabRat]

DO NOT SOLICIT ILLEGAL DRUGS ON NWTEKNO!

-hex

[gingerballs]

lol you got hit with the hex hammer.

So anyone in Seattle know where to get some nutmeg?