NSFW - 4 shot dead, 9 injured @ Carl Cox show last night

[dj_john69]

http://www.thedailyswarm.com/watch/carl-cox-club-shooting-caracas-graphic-footage/

[SomeCh!cksmom]

that video is VERY graphic, and by very i mean intensely. i wasn't expecting that, and wish i wouldn't have seen it.

this is very sad indeed.

[cricket]

I was going to watch it and then decided I fucking don't need to see something like that .... that is so terrible ~
god people fucking suck~

[Nukegrrrl]

Originally posted by cricket
where was the show ?> Yeah, I'd like the "who, what, where, when, and why."

Maybe add a *NWS* to the header?

[spazmunkee]

caracas? wheredattat?

[RageDizzer]

God why did I watch that.

[SomeCh!cksmom]

caracas is in south america.

carl cox' statement says it was gang related.

[Mi'ka]

I believe it was in Venezuela...here's a news link.

http://www.inthemix.com.au/news/intl/34852/Gunman_opens_fire_at_Carl_Cox_gig_in_Venezuela

[el huesos]

That many shots in that short of a burst and hitting 9 people, I'd say it was premeditated.

[MaRbLe]

Wow:(

[djed]

shit is getting mad rough in the gangsta-tech world. best stop half-steppin and come correct to the next rave in case any young thugs wanna set trip.

[schwyn.dr]

considering the topic, i feel bad for cracking a grin off ^^^^^^^^^^ post.
but, jesus christ.....not cool to hear, nor watch.
i will say south america is no joke, this could have happened @ a fucking karaoke. considering it was edm related puts the scene on blast even more :(
cox hiding under the tables like that :( :eek:

[djsteel]

This is a further demonstration that Violence is not a direct association to Hiphop, a club, or a specific promoter.

Whenever this happens, people start pointing their fingers at different reasons why it happened when the bottom line is that the reason why it happened is because of Hate and Anger.

Both of those are elements that we *all* have. You, Me, anybody could have easily done this...We are just lucky enough to have enough self control (right now)

I feel bad for the victims and their families, the promoters, security, and anybody who had to witness that trajedy. It is something that nobody should experience.

[djed]

Originally posted by schwyn.dr
considering the topic, i feel bad for cracking a grin off ^^^^^^^^^^ post.
but, jesus christ.....not cool to hear, nor watch.
i will say south america is no joke, this could have happened @ a fucking karaoke. considering it was edm related puts the scene on blast even more :(
cox hiding under the tables like that :( :eek:

i almost didnot post that .....

[MrMiyagi]

wow, I've heard of these things happening in Rio... but Venezuela too?

[schwyn.dr]

Originally posted by djsteel
This is a further demonstration that Violence is not a direct association to Hiphop, a club, or a specific promoter.

Whenever this happens, people start pointing their fingers at different reasons why it happened when the bottom line is that the reason why it happened is because of Hate and Anger.

Both of those are elements that we *all* have. You, Me, anybody could have easily done this...We are just lucky enough to have enough self control (right now)

I feel bad for the victims and their families, the promoters, security, and anybody who had to witness that trajedy. It is something that nobody should experience.

Q
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good post.

[djsteel]

Interesting how a hip hop fan
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.....Bwahahhah





























....I love you monk...but there is a reason I have you on ignore...

[djed]

Originally posted by Monk
Bullshit. Hip Hop breeds more violence than any other music subculture.

Interesting how a hip hop fan would take a moment in a tragedy to excuse hip hop violence...that is a telling sign right there.


QFT !!!

[darkcorner]

Hip hop reflects the culture which is often times violent, not the other way around. Violence is caused by poverty, hate, anger etc.

This is a sad day indeed.

[BobbyRitalin]

there is violence at a lot more than just hip hop shows. ever been to a metal concert? punk concert? shit, someone was stabbed to death by hells angels at a rolling stones concert for crying out loud. Not to mention there was a gang fight at USC 10 year anniversary, right in front of me and my girlfriend.

violence can occur anywhere, music being played there has little to do with it in my opinion.

I have a feeling that most violence that happens at events was planned out before it happened, oftentimes the person or persones killed were marks and it just happened that there was a style of music playing.

I could be wrong, but that's just my opinion on the matter.

I will watch the video now, I'm sure it's ghastly and I'll turn it off.

[BobbyRitalin]

Originally posted by darkcorner
Hip hop reflects the culture which is often times violent, not the other way around. Violence is caused by poverty, hate, anger etc.

This is a sad day indeed.


Violence is caused by violent people. If all of those things that you listed were true, how is it that rich people kill too?

[B_tech]

Originally posted by el huesos
That many shots in that short of a burst and hitting 9 people, I'd say it was premeditated.
Reports on sites said that there was a dead woman and man, with the woman's husband shot in the leg. We'll likely never know the 'truth', because is south america... sadly, this shit is common.

[BobbyRitalin]

Yeah, that video was pretty bad. Reminded me of when they showed Dimebag Darrel shot to death on stage. Which also happened to have not been at a hip hop show. He was one of the most prolific metal guitarists ever.

[el huesos]

Originally posted by BobbyRitalin
shit, someone was stabbed to death by hells angels at a rolling stones concert for crying out loud.
Just for the record, that was in the 60's and was after that cat shot at the stones.

not that I'm supporting...anywhoo

[Mayo Finch]

Maybe I have seen too much, but there wasn't anything in that video that was very graphic. People laying wounded, dead and dying may be pretty grizzly, but its nothing we all haven't seen recreated a gagillion times before in our own living rooms.

Watch what we have caused in Iraq. Witness what our allies in Israel do to Palestinians on a regular basis. Thats graphic.

Violence sucks. It happens and always will. My empathy extends to those that have to deal with the aftermath to a great extent.

I guess I'm in the "nothings shocking anymore" camp.

[BobbyRitalin]

Originally posted by el huesos
Just for the record, that was in the 60's and was after that cat shot at the stones.

not that I'm supporting...anywhoo

;) I was just using it as an example of death at a non hip hop show.


By the way, Strangest places to see a Hells Angel? Tbirds game last weekend. That was weird

[schwyn.dr]

Originally posted by Mayo Finch
i guess I'm in the "nothings shocking anymore" camp.

it was a bad view however you see it, i fall in the same category as you unfortunatly....
desensitized to say the least :(
reality is a bitch.

[BobbyRitalin]

I've seen someone shot right before my very eyes, so seeing it on a video doesn't do much to me. I've seen a lot of shitty things happen to people. None of it happened because of rap music either.

Still is sad that it happened to those people

[schwyn.dr]

i wouldn't go outta my way to say i've seen someone shot.
genuinly, i'm sorry you had to witness such events, but this is so far from hiip hop,let alone rap. i dunno why you even brought that up.
this is gang related, premaditated, and shouldn't even reflect on any genre of music in the slightest.....
but yeah, south america don't fuck around .

[XeviouS]

leave it to all of you douche bags to turn this thread into a debate

[el huesos]

Originally posted by XeviouS
leave it to all of you douche bags to turn this thread into a debate
On NWTekno, we aim to please :D

edit to add: no pun intended. Noticed that after I posted.

[XeviouS]

Originally posted by el huesos
On NWTekno, we aim to please :D

edit to add: no pun intended. Noticed that after I posted.

I removed the profanity

[Kosmicdog]

Originally posted by BobbyRitalin
Strangest places to see a Hells Angel? Tbirds game last weekend. That was weird

I had never seen one in real life until a couple weeks ago when a whole lot of them rolled into Union Jacks.

[spazmunkee]

Originally posted by BobbyRitalin
shit, someone was stabbed to death by hells angels at a rolling stones concert for crying out loud. Not to mention there was a gang fight at USC 10 year anniversary, right in front of me and my girlfriend.

violence can occur anywhere, music being played there has little to do with it in my opinion.

i heard someone got stabbed outside a club in the sodo and jimni swore off drawing violent flyers because of it.

[Mayo Finch]

More people dead...who cares. If they aren't Americans, do we actually care? No. Your so insulated from global empathy that your own self focused brain is having troubles garnering the actual compassion towards the untimely deaths of people from another country.

Imagine the headline said it took place in the northwest for some reason. We begin to express comforting terms to express the fact that we should have a genuine sense of compassion. Our ability to dismiss the same human aspects across the board for all humanity is to great of an emotional task for you. It has to be so in your face for you to even care.

That means your regional interest are your core cultural values.

Being in the Northwestern region of the United States makes you a Cascadian.

The next state in your progression is the scramble to accentuate our regional character and develop our unique culture and embrace the fact that we share a common destructive corporate slave as a national governing body.

A few people shot is not that significant. The fact that there was a celeberty there makes it significant. Add to the fact that someone decided to grab and aim a camera at human tragedy is what created the sensational aspect.

Don't feign compassion when the feeling isn't really there.

[darkcorner]

Originally posted by Monk
Yeah, there is no way music could ever spur on violence. There is no way that music and culture perpetuate one another in an ever evolving manner. :rolleyes:

What are you, fucking 12 years old?

No, But it appears you're pretty close to that age. If you look at the statistics and facts surrounding violance, there is no substantial eidence whatsoever pointing to hip hop as being a cause. Im sure there are many instances where some young hip hopper is influanced by violent rap to commit crimes, but over all that is not the case. In fact, violence in many big cities has actually decreased in the years following the 80s when hip hop was beginning. If you were a little older, you might remember the 70s, and early 80s before hip hop, and how much more violence there was then compared to now. Heres some murder rates. per 100,000 people
Year Homicide
rate
1950 4.6
1951 4.4
1952 4.6
1953 4.5
1954 4.2
1955 4.1
1956 4.1
1957 4.0
1958 4.8
1959 4.9
1960 5.1
1961 4.8
1962 4.6
1963 4.6
1964 4.9
1965 5.1
1966 5.6
1967 6.2
1968 6.9
1969 7.3
1970 7.9
1971 8.6
1972 9.0
1973 9.4
1974 9.8
1975 9.6
1976 8.8
1977 8.8
1978 9.0
1979 9.7
1980 10.2
1981 9.8
1982 9.1
1983 8.3
1984 7.9
1985 7.9
1986 8.6
1987 8.3
1988 8.4
1989 8.7
1990 9.4
1991 9.8
1992 9.3
1993 9.5
1994 9.0
1995 8.2
1996 7.4
1997 6.8
1998 6.3
1999 5.7
2000 5.5
2001 5.6
2002 5.6
2003 5.7
2004 5.5

This list is also an example of poverty affecting violence like I mentioned previously.

[JAK]

FUCK THAT SUCKS!!!

He's playing in Santiago Chile tomorrow night w Chemical Bros... and I had planned to go see him...

what a bummer though, straight up tragic. And no I don't want to see the video either.

[BobbyRitalin]

Originally posted by spazmunkee
i heard someone got stabbed outside a club in the sodo and jimni swore off drawing violent flyers because of it.


I think it's a different reason.