View Full Version : bad parents don't neccessarily have bad kids
Darnsworth
06-12-2008, 09:25 PM
My mother and father are both selfish,extremely judgemental, delusional and abusive (verbally and physically). My sister and me were both put into foster care when I was eight. There I stayed for the next ten years were I was ignore or abused (never nurtured or encouraged, I'm not a victim- just sayin'). At 18 I was kicked out of the system two months before I graduated high school. At the time I asked my mother to put me up for the last few months of school because it would be nice and motherly. She refused because her boyfriend at the time didn't like the idea, or that's what she told me. Neither of my parents ever had a disability,drug addiction or anything that could prevent them from being parents. They just didn't want the job..
Now in spite of that I have turned out remarkably well, I have a lot to offer society and when my film about anarchy is finished it - I will be known.
American culture/art will shift..
That's my professional course .
But as a man I have a loving heart, I'm patience and hard working, a great sense of humor and I'm a nice guy to a fault (sometimes). My only weakness, this is were I'm savagly attacked by others (not neccesarily you) is that I can ABUSE myself pretty hard (I'm learning to overcome that, I feel I'm nearing a breakthrough). Whether it's my ideals or drugs or my realtionships - I can take it and beat myself up.
But that's about it. So when you think that because a woman dresses like a slut, a guy cuts you off in traffic or acts like a jerk at the club- they're somehow going to have BAD CHILDREN -that's were you're wrong.
I've know plenty of people over the years with the good "smart" moneyed parents, the quality education, the pretty job and pretty people surrounding them and sometimes they're rotten ugly human beings.
So STOP thinking you're going to do any better then that next person, you're a loser like all the other losers- nothing makes you special.
Everyone has the right to reproduce.
So fuck off- I'm glad I was born.
burnt
06-12-2008, 09:42 PM
your logic is nothing new, George Lucas made a million off of it. ;)
Anakin Skywalker started out "good", turned "bad", then turned "good" again. so - even the original concept of good and evil that so many of us grew up thinking of - doesn't exist.
Darth Vader wasn't born evil, lived evil, and died evil. nor was he 100% good. our parents were neither. our children will be neither.
nobody's 100% "evil", or 100% "good". the pope used to be in the Hitler Youth. Adolf Hitler was an awesome, fun, loving, caring, considerate uncle.
its all about choices man. choices, and that whole pain in the ass analysis of the sum total of our choices.
sometimes I wonder if you're a sad man toying with the public, having a job, having your wits about you, just playing a prank.
sometimes I wonder if you're exactly who you say you are.
either way, its depressing as fuck. make better choices. kay thats all I'm gonna say about that. well, until later anyway.
A D I D A S
06-12-2008, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Darnsworth
So STOP thinking you're going to do any better then that next person, you're a loser like all the other losers- nothing makes you special.
Everyone has the right to reproduce.
In this country, yes. everyone has the right.
Doesn't mean everyone should. Not only is the general population becoming dumber, de-evolving, but having a child is the greatest responsibility most of us will ever have. And this society in a round a bout way encourages the uneducated, poor, unintelligent people to have more kids, whom are in turn for the most part not raised in a manner that is likely to be healthy and offer them a good future, which becomes a burden on society even more. Then they are likely to also bring children into a poor environment, and the cycle continues. Intelligent, successful, educated people are more likely to make good choices, use birth control, and wait till later in life when they can bring a child into a good healthy home and have the means to raise it properly.
I don't care if you know a exception, this is generally true in our country and its just getting worse.
HexRei
06-12-2008, 09:54 PM
lol @ serious reponses to trollmaster
A D I D A S
06-12-2008, 09:56 PM
I think once you take his personal BS out of it, its a good topic that I feel strongly about. I couldn't care less about what he has to say about it or himself.
Darnsworth
06-12-2008, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by A D I D A S
In this country, yes. everyone has the right.
Doesn't mean everyone should. Not only is the general population becoming dumber, de-evolving, but having a child is the greatest responsibility most of us will ever have. And this society in a round a bout way encourages the uneducated, poor, unintelligent people to have more kids, whom are in turn for the most part not raised in a manner that is likely to be healthy and offer them a good future, which becomes a burden on society even more. Then they are likely to also bring children into a poor environment, and the cycle continues. Intelligent, successful, educated people are more likely to make good choices, use birth control, and wait till later in life when they can bring a child into a good healthy home and have the means to raise it properly.
I don't care if you know a exception, this is generally true in our country and its just getting worse.
Getting worse.. yeah wrong, society is getting smarter. The average janitor today has more information/knowledge at their fingertips than the kings and queens of a hundred years ago.
A hundred years ago only upper class families could afford to send their children to college. Today a poor negro child in the USA can go to Havard or some other respectable university on their merits and hard work alone. Yesterday they would be lynched..
Are the poor encouraged to breed? Not anymore so than the middle class, and if you don't have money, having children is an investment that can insure you have a better old age. Someone to take care of you,
buy you a home if they are sucessful. Encouraging the poor not to have children cuts off this option. So now they are 100% totally a burden on society as they age, because with no family to take care of them, the tax payer will pay for their medicines,nursing home etc.. instead of a family member.
Waiting until your older to have children isn't a good thing for the species. Who cares if they're educated,intelligent and successful. OLD sperm and eggs AREN'T educated, intelligent and successful- they're just inferior to young healthy people regardless of race,class fucking. After 30 a woman's fertitly drops off like a cliff, even with all the modern procedures. Encouraging old people to have children because it's assumed to have the least damaging effects to our great captialist society isn't smart- it's dumb.
Besides all the shit you typed ADDIDAS is just the upper class propanganda using the media (which they own) to control what the rest of us have an RIGHT to do.
Outer limits
06-13-2008, 12:48 AM
I have came to the conclusion that I am an evolutionary dead end. Being smart and being able to think abstract thought processes that would take 20 normal people and questing for higher knowledge always isn't as valuable as desire to blend in and be assimilated.Those who fit in with the species although genetically inferior have an increased chance for survival unless the genetic deviant comes at the right time where their survival (in this case survival is reproducibility) is directly dependant on their new mutation.For example the rock star who is a complete failure and asshole who gets laid all the time because someone else in the band was a good songwriter.
In my case I have the desire to stand out and be original.Not hot topic original but something else that cannot really be placed into any known category that I or anyone else I know has encountered.My attitude,my hair,my clothes,my preference in music and arts is in its entirety deviant and therefore not a survival trait.I also have abandoned the pursuit of what normal people want.I don't want to get married.I don't care about the property ladder etc etc.
99.9999 % of people I have met are just a step up from cattle in their ability to think for themselves.Thinking up a truly original thought is a once a year spectacle for them.
So although our society is getting smarter we are still a ways off from having original thought processes and although we can think for ourselves we still just follow those who were before us even if it is right off a cliff.
swank
06-13-2008, 12:51 AM
drugs are bad.
FREEEZZ
06-13-2008, 03:11 AM
I'm a bad parent and my daughter is good. This thread sounds like another way for you to make excuses for being a loser heroin addict.
Try taking responsibility for your own actions one time it works wonders.
Do you know what the difference between YOURSELF, Mitch Hedberg, Kurt Cobain and Layne Staley is???
only the good die young!
Headphones Dude
06-13-2008, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by FREEEZZ
This thread sounds like another way for you to make excuses for being a loser heroin addict.
Try taking responsibility for your own actions one time it works wonders.
Bill, sometimes you have a way with words!
burnt
06-13-2008, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by HexRei
lol @ serious reponses to trollmaster
JERK!!!11
matytek
06-13-2008, 12:32 PM
whats going on in this here hasselhoff
oneandoneisone
06-13-2008, 01:33 PM
I have to agree with you, bad parents don't always result in bad kids. In my personal experience, having shitty parents usually motivates kids to get the fuck away from them. They will do anything they have to succeed and move away.
Of course many kids get caught up in their parents bull shit and end up following in their foot steps. It's pretty sad.
quickster
06-13-2008, 02:16 PM
Honestly I think my choice of friends was the largest influence on how I turned out. Not my parents.
Vixie
06-13-2008, 02:55 PM
We're all going to die.
ravinCron
06-13-2008, 05:18 PM
how different is it a feelling between actual shoot up with a syringe heroin and oxycontin which is synthetic heroin?
the reason why i ask this question is becasuse ive been poppin the green 80ml ones everynight for about a week now and im scared of needles
a good buddy of mine byes them in bulk and i usally pick them up for like 50 a pop
Andromeda.
06-13-2008, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by A D I D A S
.....having a child is the greatest responsibility most of us will ever have. And this society in a round a bout way encourages the uneducated, poor, unintelligent people to have more kids, whom are in turn for the most part not raised in a manner that is likely to be healthy and offer them a good future, which becomes a burden on society even more.
qft
Outer limits
06-13-2008, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by ravinCron
how different is it a feelling between actual shoot up with a syringe heroin and oxycontin which is synthetic heroin?
the reason why i ask this question is becasuse ive been poppin the green 80ml ones everynight for about a week now and im scared of needles
a good buddy of mine byes them in bulk and i usally pick them up for like 50 a pop
You are really foolish.Not because you do drugs.Albert hoffman did tons of drugs and he wasn't foolish.Simply because you do drugs and have no idea what you are talking about when you talk about them.Oxycontin is not synthetic heroin.Its more closely related to the percocets.Morphine itself is closer to heroin.Diactyl-morphine is heroin.Its 5 times stronger than morphine.Its still not as potent as hydromorphone (aka dilaudid) which is 15 times stronger by weight than morphine or three times stronger than heroin.
All of it comes from poppy straw and none of it is completely synthetic as its easier to do it from scratch and opiates don't have a lot of routes to their synthesis like lsd or mescaline.
I don't even like opiates really very much and I knew that.You really should take your time and research what you are ingesting including pharmaceuticals.
This is a good place to start www.erowid.org.
equip
06-13-2008, 09:15 PM
80ml of pills is like, more than a quarter of a cup. That’s a lot of pills.
ravinCron
06-13-2008, 10:23 PM
how does this make me foolish to believe that contin is synthetic heroin?
ive been told this many times through-out my life by very trustworthy ppl.
i know that they only prescribe oxycontin to cancer patients and such because of the overwhelming pain
KatSauce
06-13-2008, 11:01 PM
I have a bad parent and I had a good parent so I guess I'm the same way
ShaneRory
06-14-2008, 11:01 AM
You know there are a lot of people who are abused out there and I see kids and and I see parents and I think what the fuck what is going to happen to these kids.
I think that people are born inherently good and that during life we encounter people who have been hurt by other people and the try to make their pain go somewhere. I think that there is a God and God looks out for us and if you can over come the pain in the world you are taking that pain out of the world.
I think these are hard times right now and there are a lot of people suffering and it is something we should recodnise and we should do better in the world than the world may have done to us.
Andromeda.
06-14-2008, 01:06 PM
you know, maybe we're all too hard on darnsworth. for all we know, he could be some kind of heroin-fueled genius. he could be the next bradley knowell or kurt cobain
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