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nouseforaname
07-14-2008, 12:10 PM
My unit is rotating out of Afghanistan as i write this. I just made it back to italy 2 days ago. The Soldiers in the story are apart of my unit and would have been coming back next week.

The same company (which isn't mentioned because next of kin haven't been notified) had a patrol earlier in the year leave the same base and was ambushed by probably the same insurgents. Every single American in that patrol was killed..

and now this

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Insurgents who squared off with U.S. soldiers in a major battle in eastern Afghanistan overran a military observation point just outside a coalition outpost, but failed to take the base, a U.S. military official told CNN.

U.S.-led coalition, Afghan and NATO officials were attempting to piece together details about the confrontation which occurred Sunday in Kunar province, a location close to the Pakistan border.

"It was heroic fighting," said another official, NATO spokesman Mark Laity, describing the U.S.-led troop performance.

"They wanted to overrun that base," he added, referring to the militants. "They failed."

The fighting left nine U.S. soldiers dead and 15 wounded. It marked the most fatalities in an attack on U.S. troops in Afghanistan in three years. An Afghan official estimated that 100 militants died or were wounded in the fighting.

A U.S. official told CNN that as many as 200 insurgents were involved in the strike, which NATO said occurred at an outpost in Dara-I-Pech. However, other officials could not put a figure on the number of insurgent casualties at this time.

The official said militants didn't get into the outpost but they did overrun a small U.S.-led observation point outside the base, where it is believed most of the American and Afghan fatalities and injuries occurred. Watch more about the attack on the coalition base »

Laity described the insurgent strike as a "major attack" by a "large group of insurgents."

"What there was was a combat outpost had a major attack on it by a large group of insurgents. They had infiltrated a neighboring village and they fired on the base from that village and then they attacked the base itself."

He said severe fighting followed, resulting in the American casualties and the wounding of four Afghan service members.

"They attempted to break into that base. They did make some penetration. But overall they were repelled and they took very heavy casualties themselves," Laity said.

He indicated that the penetration or breach that media reports about the strike referred to was the attack on the observation post.

"We brought in air power to stabilize the situation in a fight that then lasted for several hours," he said.

There have been occasional strikes on coalition bases in recent months -- Laity noted that the practice "is quite common."

"This was a larger-scale attack than normal," he said, but added, "This was not a new tactic. They usually get defeated. We are very, very sad that we lost some people but again, their attempt to take that base failed."

Gen. Mohammad Zahir Azimi, an Afghan Defense Ministry official, had different initial numbers than the U.S. official. He said the attack involved 400 to 500 militants, and at least 100 were killed or injured, he said.

In June 2005, 16 U.S. troops were killed near the same province when their MH-47 helicopter was shot down by a rocket-propelled grenade.

Since the start of coalition operations in Afghanistan, 470 U.S. troops have died, including Sunday's casualties.

The battle illustrates the escalating war in Afghanistan, where since May U.S. and coalition troop deaths have exceeded those occurring in Iraq.



http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/07/14/afghan.violence/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

.-=PSYLON=-.
07-14-2008, 12:19 PM
I'm so sorry to hear that. :(

Glad to hear you're still among the living.

djsteel
07-14-2008, 12:40 PM
Im sure the hardest part about this is the desire to go back to help them...even though it is over.

Im sorry..

sentravq
07-14-2008, 12:43 PM
Its funny in the 80s, we helped them against the Soviets by providing them with money/weapons especially RPGs and now we are fightining them. However with the soviets, they were able to stand there ground even though the russians were technology advance with their weapons.

nouseforaname
07-17-2008, 02:58 PM
Seattle soldier was one of 9 killed in Afghanistan
Outpost defended in fierce battle against Taliban

By MIKE BARBER
P-I REPORTER

Outnumbered by nearly four to one, 25-year-old Cpl. Jason Bogar and the eight other American soldiers he died with Sunday were among the small group of nearly 60 American and Afghan troops who fought a hellish battle, resorting to hand-to-hand fighting to prevent at least 200 Taliban militants from overrunning their small remote outpost in Afghanistan.

Bogar's parents, the Rev. Michael Bogar, pastor of the Spiritual Enrichment Center of West Sound on Bainbridge Island, and his mother, Bogar's ex-wife, Carlene Cross of Seattle, an author, college counselor and former KCTS/9 television producer in Seattle, learned of their son's death and heroism Sunday.

Wednesday, they heard more stunning news.

The base the soldiers had lost their lives to hold was being abandoned as indefensible, already quickly occupied by the Taliban, The Associated Press reported, citing military and government sources.

"It was outrageous to me to put those boys out there; they were just sitting ducks," Cross said Wednesday. "They fought for hours, and then got some air help, and turned them back. It is amazing. Jason died a hero, he fought hand to hand and I was told it was just unbelievable. And when (other troops) finally got to them, they were all dead."

She added: "One of the things I hope there will be is an investigation, and I hope they never do that again to any of our guys.

"We are really proud of him, and it's heartbreaking. We have to remember them the way they were and they way they would have wanted us to remember them. "

It was the deadliest attack on U.S. forces in Afghanistan in three years.

Bogar and those killed with him served with the 2nd Battalion, 503rd Infantry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team, based in Vicenza, Italy.

The post was only two days old and occupied by 45 U.S. soldiers and 25 Afghan soldiers when it was attacked, The Times of London reported. Taliban fighters reportedly breached the outer defenses but were prevented from overrunning the base only after fierce hand-to-hand fighting and warplanes drove them back, it said.

Just over half of the U.S. garrison was killed or injured, with 15 wounded in the battle, in addition to the nine soldiers killed, The Times said.

Those who died with Bogar were: 1st Lt. Jonathan P. Brostrom, 24, of Hawaii; Sgt. Israel Garcia, 24, of Long Beach, Calif.; Cpl. Jonathan R. Ayers, 24, of Snellville, Ga.; Cpl. Jason D. Hovater, 24, of Clinton, Tenn.; Cpl. Matthew B. Phillips, 27, of Jasper, Ga.; Cpl. Pruitt A. Rainey, 22, of Haw River, N.C.; Cpl. Gunnar W. Zwilling, 20, of Florissant, Mo.; and Pfc. Sergio S. Abad, 21, of Morganfield, Ky.

In addition to his parents, Bogar is survived by two sisters, Micael Bogar, and Carise Martindale, and a brother-in-law, Jesse Martindale, a former Marine who served in Iraq.

Cross said her son often volunteered for dangerous missions in part because he was single and felt he could spell married troops from potential hazards.

"He said 'I don't have a wife and I have a real camaraderie with those guys,' " she said.

Bogar attended Bothell High School but, having an independent streak in his teens, joined the Job Corps in Mount Vernon and earned a graduate equivalency diploma while becoming an electrician apprentice.

Though he had been a bit of "a wildcat" in school, Cross said, after going to Iraq and experiencing the death of friends or near-death himself, he grew closer to faith.

"His spirituality was profound," she said.

Bogar was the 24th member of the U.S. armed forces with ties to Washington to die in Afghanistan since the war began nearly seven years ago, shortly after 9/11.

Five have been killed this year as violence in Afghanistan has increased, while casualties in Iraq have decreased.

While a date and time have not been set, memorial services and burial with military honors for Bogar will be held at St. Mark's Cathedral and Lake View Cemetery on Capitol Hill in Seattle.

The many who knew her son, who served with him in the National Guard and in the Army, have poured in messages of condolence with a common thread, Cross said.

"They all said he was a man of valor, and they were honored to serve with him," she said.

djsteel
07-17-2008, 03:31 PM
I don't know if this is any benefit, but this attack has been all over the news this week, and is prompting a major "What ever happened to Afghanistan?" thought revisit, and is sparking major conversations...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or1iYlqrCt0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOqDdobMbf0&feature=related
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=July%2015%20afghanistan%20attack&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#

Tachie
07-17-2008, 03:32 PM
I'm so sorry to hear this. Although, sorry doesn't really seem like a strong enough word. I can't believe what our country is putting our young men and women through, knowing that this base was unprotectable and still leaving those men out there to die. The news of this makes my heart ache and my stumach sick. My bother is out there too. I hope for quick healing of those injured and for peace for the loved ones of those killed. I'm glad you are safe.

gingerballs
07-17-2008, 05:11 PM
This shit is weak and needs to end.

nouseforaname
07-17-2008, 09:01 PM
yeah it is weak

We lost 43 Soldiers in 15 months in my brigade..

chronwaxjoseph
07-18-2008, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Zero5
This shit is weak and needs to end.

Your fuckin weak. :p

soooooooo.........


Do you guys rock death metal when your in combat???? If so you should check out Dying Fetus (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=109077062), they are esp BRUTAL >> (click epidemic of hate) ;)

Off topic (well a little), I'm going to be getting my first assault rifle here pretty soon. I was gonna get a AK-47, but.......they sell M16's at a place right next to my house. :D :cool:

SteverXL
07-18-2008, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by chronwaxjoseph


Off topic (well a little), I'm going to be getting my first assault rifle here pretty soon. I was gonna get a AK-47, but.......they sell M16's at a place right next to my house. :D :cool: does that make you feel like a man? Are you going to let all of your manly friends hold your gun?

chronwaxjoseph
07-18-2008, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by SteverXL
does that make you feel like a man? Are you going to let all of your manly friends hold your gun?

my HUGE COCK is what make me feel like a man. That and being big and hairy RAWR!!!!!

I like guns. I like to shoot guns. Guns are great!!!!

I don't know if you've ever shot a gun, but its actually very therapeutic. Not to mention FUN!!!


I feel for people that have to use them in situations like nouse's, nonetheless they are part of our society and an AMERICAN RIGHT!!!!!

Get over it homo. :cool:


OH and FYI NONE of my friends are manly. BWAHAHAHAH..... sorry D :(

More Wise
07-23-2008, 12:06 AM
thats harsh man. i don't really have a whole lot to say. i just wish this didn't have to happen to anyone.

get back safe, be successful, and teach others.

Andromeda.
07-23-2008, 12:56 AM
aw :( *hugs nouse*