umm ok...

[Headie]

so i run a restaurant, and while cooking and takin orders about an hour ago i had a mom and two daughters come in for food... so they all ordered and i thought it was funny that both sisters got all giggly when talking to me, but then the mom starts talkin to me and says "well honey if you were a few years older id take you home and we could all have fun with you, but then youd have to cook us greek food"

to this the older daughter replied MOMM!!!!

fuckin awesome.

[Charlie Deep]

umm ok...

[HexRei]

Originally posted by Charlie Deep
umm ok... JEALOUS???

[djsteel]

...a moment in life forever missed out on...

[Headie]

^^^
i dont follow

and

i just thought it was funny, thought some people might get a chuckle out of it...

i woulda tagged the shit outta the daughters though...just for the record.

[BobbyRitalin]

bro, you gotta fuck the mom too, she'll give you a history lesson on where the daughters came from! :D

[Homatek]

Originally posted by headies
i woulda tagged the shit outta the daughters though...just for the record.

Nice :rolleyes:

[sentravq]

hehehehe I know how you feel! Was the mom at least hot!

[Headie]

they were all hot, like really, like one of the daughters had a kid but she was still really hot!

they were like pacific islander type...

i like pacific islander type... :)

[sentravq]

My wife likes the pacific islander type.

Talking about older women.......

http://www.dlisted.com/files/imagecache/photo-preview/files/galleries/arodvadgetoronto4.jpg

http://www.dlisted.com/files/imagecache/photo-preview/files/galleries/arodvadgetoronto6.jpg

http://www.dlisted.com/files/imagecache/photo-preview/files/galleries/arodvadgetoronto2.jpg

http://www.dlisted.com/files/imagecache/photo-preview/files/galleries/arodvadgetoronto8.jpg

http://www.dlisted.com/files/imagecache/photo-preview/files/galleries/arodvadgetoronto.jpg

http://www.dlisted.com/files/imagecache/photo-preview/files/galleries/arodvadgetoronto3.jpg

http://www.dlisted.com/files/imagecache/photo-preview/files/galleries/arodvadgetoronto9.jpg

[HexRei]

that's awesome, is one of those people you?

[NeOmega]

fairly bragworthy story

[akyouser.oner]

Dude. It's not every day that you get that kinda opportunity! You shoulda at least gotten their numbers for chrissake...

Best case scenario = great footage for your own pay pr0n site!

[meeotch]

So yesterday, the cheerleaders from PSU all came in Target and happened to ask me for help. Then, one of them leaned over to me and said, "It's too bad you're working, or all of us would take you into the bus and fuck your brains out." It really was too bad I was working.

[.-=PSYLON=-.]

Originally posted by meeotch
So yesterday, the cheerleaders from PSU all came in Target and happened to ask me for help. Then, one of them leaned over to me and said, "It's too bad you're working, or all of us would take you into the bus and fuck your brains out." It really was too bad I was working.

That's when it's time to get a new job. :D

[NeOmega]

Originally posted by meeotch
So yesterday, the cheerleaders from PSU all came in Target and happened to ask me for help. Then, one of them leaned over to me and said, "It's too bad you're working, or all of us would take you into the bus and fuck your brains out." It really was too bad I was working.

why you gotta lie?

[Headie]

Originally posted by meeotch
So yesterday, the cheerleaders from PSU all came in Target and happened to ask me for help. Then, one of them leaned over to me and said, "It's too bad you're working, or all of us would take you into the bus and fuck your brains out." It really was too bad I was working. \

also cool but sounds slightly less realistic... so if you did that to mock me then f-u.... but if not, and its real, then fuck yeah man, id be showin up to WWAAAYYY more psu athletic events...!

Originally posted by akyouser.oner
Dude. It's not every day that you get that kinda opportunity! You shoulda at least gotten their numbers for chrissake...

Best case scenario = great footage for your own pay pr0n site!

the daughters come in for food on a pretty consistent basis... its just the first time ive been the one doin shit and cookin when they came in...




AND

i am in a happy good relationship, i just thought this was great, really makes you feel great about yourself, one of those laugh and stare at the floor moments for some, or laugh and flash your best smile for others(me)...

gotta keep lookin at that BIG picture man

[harmonious]

omg ..greek food..

YUM

[Headie]

Originally posted by NeOmega
why you gotta lie?

im not the only one that caught the "so yesterday" thing apparently

[meeotch]

Originally posted by headies
also cool but sounds slightly less realistic... so if you did that to mock me then f-u.... but if not, and its real, then fuck yeah man, id be showin up to WWAAAYYY more psu athletic events...!

Hey man, how could I possibly mock someone who just got pimped for a foursome with a third-generation MILF and her two daughters? Your story just reminded me of something funny that happened to me yesterday.

[sentravq]

I bet you they were filipino...they are always so horny!

[meeotch]

Originally posted by sentravq
I bet you they were filipino...they are always so horny!

It's because they're Catholics.

[sentravq]

Originally posted by meeotch
It's because they're Catholics.
catholics are nasty and hardcore when it comes to fucking!
I'M CATHOLIC!

[meeotch]

Originally posted by sentravq
catholics are nasty and hardcore when it comes to fucking!
I'M CATHOLIC!

Are they all also obsessed with cars?

I should add a ;) so it doesn't sound like I'm trying to be mean.

[akyouser.oner]

Originally posted by headies
i am in a happy good relationship, i just thought this was great, really makes you feel great about yourself, one of those laugh and stare at the floor moments for some, or laugh and flash your best smile for others(me)...

gotta keep lookin at that BIG picture man

You don't have to have a relationship, just hit them skins!

I'm just a hedonistic motherfucker lol

[sentravq]

i am obessesed with a lot of things!:)

[chronwaxjoseph]

...get back to work loser.:D

[Headie]

Originally posted by meeotch
Are they all also obsessed with cars?

I should add a ;) so it doesn't sound like I'm trying to be mean.

im orthodox, which is damn near the same, xcept we dont recognize the pope, and some other minor diffs...

and we are obsessed with cars,
obsessed with hedonism,
and obsessed with that ass!

[sentravq]

Originally posted by headies
im orthodox, which is damn near the same, xcept we dont recognize the pope, and some other minor diffs...

and we are obsessed with cars,
obsessed with hedonism,
and obsessed with that ass!
Im obessed with that ass...Miami here i come!:D
Headies im obessesd with greek food and hot mediterean ass and spanish comes 2nd!

[Andromeda.]

i cant believe i just read this whole thread. *shakes head* i feel like i walked into a sausage-fest frat party

[basskrapht]

Originally posted by sentravq
My wife likes the pacific islander type.
http://www.dlisted.com/files/imagecache/photo-preview/files/galleries/arodvadgetoronto9.jpg

EPIC FAIL

[TeknoAXE]

Originally posted by andromeda_68
i cant believe i just read this whole thread. *shakes head* i feel like i walked into a sausage-fest frat party

These are natural guy behaviors. Why are you surprised?

[Headie]

Originally posted by meeotch
Hey man, how could I possibly mock someone who just got pimped for a foursome with a third-generation MILF and her two daughters? Your story just reminded me of something funny that happened to me yesterday.

word.
i just had a thing goin with my friends where if their sentence starts with "so yesterday, or so this or so that... that it was bullshit...

just givin you a hard time man...

[sentravq]

Originally posted by andromeda_68
i cant believe i just read this whole thread. *shakes head* i feel like i walked into a sausage-fest frat party
yea you should post more ass shots!

[Homatek]

Originally posted by andromeda_68
i cant believe i just read this whole thread. *shakes head* i feel like i walked into a sausage-fest frat party

Seriously.

Key words being FRAT PARTY.

[TeknoAXE]

We need to dig up that shoe thread again. Or make up something to do with shopping for trinkets.

[fuerve]

Originally posted by Homatek
Seriously.

Key words being FRAT PARTY.

Chill brah.

[Headie]

done n done


http://nwtekno.org/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128554

[Andromeda.]

Originally posted by TeknoAXE
These are natural guy behaviors. Why are you surprised?

not hatin :D i just thought i'd point out that all the females were scared far far away LMAO

that baseball thing with madonna and a-rod was pretty hilarious though. on that note i'm just going to grab my things, and ummmm yeah. i'll see you all later *books*

[NeOmega]

Originally posted by andromeda_68
i cant believe i just read this whole thread. *shakes head* i feel like i walked into a sausage-fest frat party

Look!! A chick!

[fuerve]

Originally posted by NeOmega
Look!! A chick!

If she's wearing a skirt we should totally get her to do a kegstand.

[NeOmega]

Originally posted by andromeda_68
not hatin :D i just thought i'd point out that all the females were scared far far away LMAO

that baseball thing with madonna and a-rod was pretty hilarious though. on that note i'm just going to grab my things, and ummmm yeah. i'll see you all later *books*

NO!

WAIT!

We got beer!

[Headie]

haha...
wow.

something that started as girls approaching a dude is now scaring em away...

way to take something beautiful and shit all over it guys!

[Homatek]

Not scared. Just annoyed w/ this MTV/Frat Boy attitude.

[NeOmega]

Originally posted by headies
haha...
wow.

something that started as girls approaching a dude is now scaring em away...

way to take something beautiful and shit all over it guys!

Hey, you're the ladies man.. get us some chicks, dude.

[Headie]

get your own chicks!

and im not a ladies man, im just always approached.

btw

quit scarin/annoyin em and you might have better luck!

[fuerve]

Originally posted by Homatek
Not scared. Just annoyed w/ this MTV/Frat Boy attitude.

Then don't read this thread. It's quite simple. Show me a man who isn't prone to being moved by his gonads and I will show you a shell of a man. We all get this way because it's fun and it eases the pressure so that we don't end up leering at you women every time you walk by. Which would you prefer, because I can ogle all day.

[Homatek]

I prefer my boyfriend who would never start such threads and does not need to ogle because he is not typical. So I guess my boy is that man you think does not exist.


And with that I must say: DAMN I AM LUCKY!!;)

[HexRei]

you should lighten up a little. it's nowhere near as bad as you are implying, its actually pretty mild. i know a lot of girls who are a lot more crass than this, and there's nothing wrong with it either. sexual attraction is healthy, and so is expressing it, and a little humor mixed in never hurt anybody.

[Homatek]

Originally posted by HexRei
you should lighten up a little. it's nowhere near as bad as you are implying, its actually pretty mild. i know a lot of girls who are a lot more crass than this, and there's nothing wrong with it either. sexual attraction is healthy, and so is expressing it, and a little humor mixed in never hurt anybody.

Your right its not that bad. Just agreeing with and responding to other posts on the thread. Believe me.....I don't agree with a lot of the things the world does, but I am sure damn used to it.

Really don't care as much as it may seem.

So, carry on with your testosterone-fest. I will go elsewhere.

The shoe thread right??

[fuerve]

Originally posted by Homatek
So I guess my boy is that man you think does not exist.

Sure he is. And so was I, once upon a time. Turns out it's not sustainable. Good luck with that, though.

[HexRei]

Originally posted by Homatek
Your right its not that bad. Just agreeing with and responding to other posts on the thread. Believe me.....I don't agree with a lot of the things the world does, but I am sure damn used to it.

Really don't care as much as it may seem.

So, carry on with your testosterone-fest. I will go elsewhere.

The shoe thread right??

oh boooohoooooo

[Homatek]

Originally posted by HexRei
oh boooohoooooo

yes because I am totally crying now.:p

[NeOmega]

you dont win friends with sal - lid!

you dont win friends with sal - lid!

you dont win friends with sal - lid!

[Andromeda.]

Originally posted by HexRei
you should lighten up a little. it's nowhere near as bad as you are implying, its actually pretty mild. i know a lot of girls who are a lot more crass than this, and there's nothing wrong with it either. sexual attraction is healthy, and so is expressing it, and a little humor mixed in never hurt anybody.

*shrug* can't speak for anyone else, i was just making fun of you guys :D no harm / offense on my end.

[BobbyRitalin]

sometimes guys just have to act like cromags, give us a break lol

[Headie]

**grunts n spits!!

[colisa]

*delurking*

I thought the thread was pretty funny. This is the internet, where everyone lets their id out a little. If I'd gotten hit on by some hot older guy and his two hot sons, I'd be talking about it, too.

Unfortunately, I got... nothing of that caliber.

*relurking*

[Headie]

Originally posted by HexRei
[B] i know a lot of girls who are a lot more crass than this, and there's nothing wrong with it either. /B]

theres nothing wrong with it, but its weird when you havent met em before then but their still around friends (everyone else) so they announce shit that would make any man take a second look.

***edit

sadly a majority of the time the crass ones are aesthetically revolting as well as pungent in smell...

[SoulKid]

Originally posted by sentravq
I bet you they were filipino...they are always so horny!

Originally posted by meeotch
It's because they're Catholics.

Ok, so I'm Filipino and Catholic :eek:

[sentravq]

Originally posted by SoulKid
Ok, so I'm Filipino and Catholic :eek:
ako rin, pare!

[Headie]

its funny how its a sin, but to the orthodox and catholics, pre-marital sex is like one of the coolest things ever!

i mean... any catholic or orthodox father of a family will give his older son shit if he isnt gettin laid

and EVERYTHING is a sex joke to the mediterraneans.

its awesome.

like a lifetime of thats what she she saids' but much more inventive

[sentravq]

Originally posted by headies
its funny how its a sin, but to the orthodox and catholics, pre-marital sex is like one of the coolest things ever!

i mean... any catholic or orthodox father of a family will give his older son shit if he isnt gettin laid

and EVERYTHING is a sex joke to the mediterraneans.

its awesome.

like a lifetime of thats what she she saids' but much more inventive
Yea pre-martial sex is a big big no no! Just think of having your first child in your teens and not being married...

[mercuria]

Originally posted by sentravq
My wife likes the pacific islander type.

http://www.dlisted.com/files/imagecache/photo-preview/files/galleries/arodvadgetoronto9.jpg
last time i checked on the map, Dominican Republic was in the Atlantic. well, the Caribbean, to be precise.
i'm stil thinking about being baptised as a Catholic.

[Headie]

good luck with that.

orthodox FTW!

[mercuria]

Originally posted by headies

orthodox FTW!
for some reason, i picture this as a humongous poster over Hagia Sophia, and laugh.
i'll probably end up as an orthodox.

[Headie]

Originally posted by mercuria
for some reason, i picture this as a humongous poster over Hagia Sophia, and laugh.
i'll probably end up as an orthodox.

thats awesome... like the counter part to catholicism wow is orthodox FTW! ha.

that reminds me of george carlin, but hes dead, so uh me-1 g.c.-0

and if youre orthodox, you dont have to care whats up with the pope!

[sentravq]

when refering to pacific island type, i am refering to me since i'm filipino.
Yea and if you are catholic all you have to do if confess to the padre to wash away your sins.

[Andromeda.]

Originally posted by SoulKid
Ok, so I'm Filipino and Catholic :eek:

you're an LBMF!!!!

*rolls*

[More Wise]

looks like im a lil late in the convo...

but, i always really really like it when people compliment me, either blatantly or with more subtlety. humor is always good too!!!

i spend so much time putting up with peoples negative shit that when someone says something nice to me, or likes what im doing, or wearing, it really makes me almost tear up sometimes.. especially when they take the time to tell me.

so on that note.. tell some random person they got rad shoes or something just because... they could have spent the last month listening to nothing but whiney customers that think if they bitch enough their life problems will end and they'll get something for free!

[gingerballs]

Originally posted by mercuria
i'm stil thinking about being baptised as a Catholic.

I always find it funny and strange when people accept brainwashing and metal slavery later in life.


I want you to know, when it comes to believing in god- I really tried. I really really tried. I tried to believe that there is a god who created each one of us in his own image and likeness, loves us very much and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize...something is FUCKED-UP. Something is WRONG here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is NOT good work. If this is the best god can do, I am NOT impressed. Results like these do not belong on the resume of a supreme being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently run universe, this guy would have been out on his all-powerful-ass a long time ago. -George Carlin

Here's another question I've been pondering- What is all this shit about Angels? Have you herd this? 3 out of 4 people belive in Angels. Are you FUCKING STUPID? Has everybody lost their mind? You know what I think it is? I think it's a massive, collective, psychotic chemical flashback for all the drugs smoked, swallowed, shot, and obsorbed rectally by all Americans from 1960 to 1990. 30 years of street drugs will get you some fucking Angels my friend! - George Carlin

I would never want to be a member of a group whose symbol was a guy nailed to two pieces of wood. - George Carlin


Originally posted by headies
that reminds me of george carlin, but hes dead, so uh me-1 g.c.-0


Yeah that's what happens when you get old, you die.

G.C. +3,000,000

You are going to have to pray for points Headies.

[Headie]

see geaorge carlin definitely won in life, but in death... well, no ones heard from him in a while so ill take that victory!

and i dont try, i just am, i think because of being so intensively raised in the greek orthodox church(you really dont have a choice there) its just kinda stuck in there, and certain principles i live my life by, and morals, values etc...

but i am an orthodox guy... it seemed to make sense as soon as i stopped trying!

[.-=PSYLON=-.]

Originally posted by headies
and if youre orthodox, you dont have to care whats up with the pope!

Why not take it one step further. Go Atheist. That way, you not only don't have to care about the pope, but any other of his lackeys, OR their book.

;)

[Headie]

read the post above i guess...

in my mind the church only has to do with the way i was brought up, but live my life with somewhat coinciding beliefs and values, and if asked, i am orthodox. but not too active, at all.

[Hukt On Wax]

it's when your a delivery driver and you get the hottie milfs's in langerie answer the door and say oops i don't have a tip but nipple slip works as well thats when the food industry gets fun :D

[Andromeda.]

i was raised catholic. as a result, all kinds of horrible and unnecessary feelings and personal doubts are second nature to me. yay oldschool oppression!

i'm not really catholic. i'm a bastard mix of spiritual, scientific, and self-realized / logical ideas about life in this universe and my gloriously black soul that make sense to me and probably no one else. lol...i kid. sort of. who said black was bad anyhow? so sort of.

my family would shit if they knew what i believed in, but some good things admittedly did get pounded into my head that probably wouldn't have if i hadn't had the strict catholic mom and grandma. like no babies before marriage. and no marriage before growing the fuck up. and marriage only being meant to do once. i think it's served me pretty damn well so far. i know of lots of girls that didn't have that stressed to them, and while of course i don't pity my friends or their situations - far from it - i wouldn't want to trade places either.

*shrug*

it's a fucked-up religion (...wait, which one isn't, again??! oh yeah, they all are.), but i like all the pagan roots / art / ceremony. FASCINATING! and vatican city is on the list of places i'd go in europe, for sure. it's stunningly beautiful there. the ART! the HISTORY! swoon! they actually have one of the world's best astronomical observatories too. DOUBLE SWOON!

i guess so long as it makes you happy or brings something positive to your life, i see no harm. once you start going all crazy and fundamental with it though...imposing your will on other institutions or unsupecting people...then i am adamantly opposed...ultimately, to each his own.

[burnt]

"I was hit on by some bitches and their mom"

"THERE IS NO GOD!!!11"

I love this board. :D

[Andromeda.]

^^ lol!!! ^^
*falls over*

RIGHT?!?!

thanks for pointing that out, hilarious :D :D :D :D

[NeOmega]

I was raised in a Pentecostal cult.

I am one fucked up individual.

Catholicism is a soft, nice religion, it adopts well to society, as well as fairly liberal, as far as religions go.

Its not Lutheran though, that is one of the softest forms of Christianity I know.

[gingerballs]

Originally posted by Rigel
It's so mysterious, and because it deals with issues that are not addressed or predicted to eventually happen by evolution...the fact this paradox exists is the strongest argument for the existence of some kind of higher force. If only to potentially offer an explanation.

so that it sits well with the logical faculties 'god' supplied you with?

The fact is we all don't want the same thing. If we all wanted the same thing then it would happen.

Like G.C. said, If we are gods work then fuck, his ass needs to be fired.

The problem is everyone is running around trying to appease there god and killing people around them to do it. That's always been the problem with religion. Does just enough good and instills just enough fear to keep people attending and giving money. Then turns around the rapes anyone who doesn't follow the same belief.

The Catholic church is the single wealthiest entity in the history of the world, yet they have the poorest most destitute congregation. They suck the money out of the people who follow them and give very very little back when compared to how much they have sitting around.

If there is a higher force, it is most def not an all loving power. Nothing in the history of the world has shown god to be a kind or loving.

Hell, if you read the bible with open eyes god is a monster in there too. Why would his followers be any different?


I'm still waiting to see any logic come out of the god crew.


Originally posted by headies
in my mind the church only has to do with the way i was brought up, but live my life with somewhat coinciding beliefs and values, and if asked, i am orthodox. but not too active, at all.

So you agree that you were brainwashed from a young age and it still continues to skew how you live your life to this day?

Man, I wish we had more honest people like Headies in the Jesus crew. Its not often someone in the Jesus cult can stop lying to themselves long enough to look at their life and brainwashing from a 3rd person perspective.

I applaud you.

[mercuria]

in response to "whatthefuckhaveyougonemadandfellforthatcraptheytel lyouinthebible" question from the young man in the 5th row, i have to say this.

my pladates with religion have been happenning for a very long time.
as a person with a penchant for all things esoteric, mysterious, and unaccessable by anything other than an epiphany, i've always looked for an outlet for my soul.
there was painting, there was music, there were other things.

I live in Russia. i used to love churches here. but something happened. maybe, it's because i work in the news. and i read/write/imbibe information about Russian Orthodox church that takes it down from its altar, rips its resplendent gilded shroud off, and casts it down upon earth.
in other words, i see too much petty human involvement.

i went to Italy this past April. i was amazed to see how deeply entertwined religion and everyday life were. you see kids out in the park out for a walk. you see a tiny old nun chatting with one of the mums. and they were both laughing.

i saw a young man walk into a church.
he walked around, then sat down, with a somewhat vacant look upon his face.
i thought he was a tourist.
but then a priest emerged, smiled, and ventured to the young man, inviting him into the confessional booth.

and i also so art. i saw the most magnificent creations -- all done by men -- in the service of something beyond our everyday life. they themselves may not have believed in God. i am vary of ever giving name to something i don't understand.
but to me, Art by Human Hand -- amazing and frightening in its beauty or its sheer ugliness -- is one of manifestation of that "something" we like to call The Divine Being.

i will continue toying with an idea of taking up one religion, or another.
but i probably won't.
i like to be able to explore any religion and its traditions with an unencumbered mind. because i honestly believe that everyone, who prays, prays to the same thing. they just give it different names, and follow different rituals.
but the essence is the same.

[gingerballs]

It more seems you have a penchant for things that make you feel warm and fuzzy inside. That's one of the many tricks of Religion. They get you caught up with their big stained glass windows, chapels and such. Makes the whole "There is a big guy watching me in the sky" shit sandwich easier to swallow.

I agree that Religion is esoteric. Only a select few of its followers at the top (where the money goes) know it to be a total pile of bullshit.



There is nothing mysterious about Religion. Conflicting, barbaric, evil, yes, mysterious..not so much.

I can see how it would be so big in Russia. A place stricken by so much pain over the last century would be prime land for the Jesus cult to move in.

Like I said. Catholicism is strong where people are poor and easy to sway towards something that makes them feel good or gives them hope.

The real question is if most of their followers are poor, sick and starving, why isn't the catholic church using its vast wealth to help them?

I don't want to hear shit about blankets and food drops. The Catholic church could seriously improve the lives of millions of its brainwashed with the money and power it has. Yet it doesn't. People tend not to be as easy to control when they are fed and healthy.

[NeOmega]

i will continue toying with an idea of taking up one religion, or another.
but i probably won't.

Buddhism, much different form other religions, not even really a religion. I am not a Buddhist per se, but I have found much in their ways of thinking to be very helpful with leading a peaceful, balanced life.

[HexRei]

Originally posted by Zero5
People tend not to be as easy to control when they are fed and healthy.

And don't forget educated. Can't let them get none of that book learnin and realize how mind-numblingly stupid literal creationism is.

[mercuria]

Originally posted by Zero5
People tend not to be as easy to control when they are fed and healthy.
quite on the contrary.
it's hardly the habit of bourgeoisie to start any kind of revolution.
it's the oppressed, the hungry, the angry, the poor that are the hardest to control. for they have nothing to lose.

but we're digressing into politics here.

[HexRei]

Originally posted by mercuria
quite on the contrary.
it's hardly the habit of bourgeoisie to start any kind of revolution.
it's the oppressed, the hungry, the angry, the poor that are the hardest to control. for they have nothing to lose.

but we're digressing into politics here.

in a political sense that is true, but religions actually blossom among poor populations. nothing inspires belief and yearning for a paradise afterlife than a life full of hardship and desperation. prevent them from learning to read or do "heretical science", and you've got a pretty well-rounded control mechanism. ala the Catholic church in the middle ages.

[mercuria]

Originally posted by HexRei
in a political sense that is true, but religions actually blossom among poor populations. nothing inspires belief and yearning for a paradise afterlife than a life full of hardship and desperation. prevent them from learning to read or do "heretical science", and you've got a pretty well-rounded control mechanism. ala the Catholic church in the middle ages.
in that respect -- yes, absolutely.
Christianity spread among the plebes through the Roman Empire like fire through a barn with hay.
simple logic: you may have nothing in this life, but after you die you'll have more than you can even imagine.

[Rigel]

Originally posted by Zero5
The fact is we all don't want the same thing. If we all wanted the same thing then it would happen.

That is what makes it a conundrum...the fact that everyone wants harmony, but they can't make it happen.

And as an aside...I don't mean harmony in the sterile, rated g sense that most people associate it with. Where everything is like Sesame Street. The word is stigmatized that way cause it's converse is the only thing anyone has ever known, but strictly speaking, harmony would remove boundaries and free people up to do anything, and make life truly 'life'.

[Andromeda.]

Originally posted by Zero5
It more seems you have a penchant for things that make you feel warm and fuzzy inside.




..........so?

it's wrong for humans to seek comfort?

i agree religion is used as a tool for all the wrong reasons quite often, but what is wrong with someone picking it for themselves as opposed to it beinf force-fed to them?

that said creationists need to die off already :D

[equip]

It is very interesting that a story about a guy just doing his job turns into a deeply philosophical conversation about why most of us should or shouldn’t be put down like feral cats.

[equip]

“All the human mitochondrial DNA sequences that exist today are descended from that of one African woman, just as all the Y chromosomes can be traced back to that of one man. Indeed, it has been estimated that all the human DNA in existence today originated with as few as 86,000 individuals.”

Wouldn’t it be simpler to say that ‘all the human DNA in existence today originated from 2 individuals’?

[Rigel]

Originally posted by equip
“All the human mitochondrial DNA sequences that exist today are descended from that of one African woman, just as all the Y chromosomes can be traced back to that of one man. Indeed, it has been estimated that all the human DNA in existence today originated with as few as 86,000 individuals.”

Wouldn’t it be simpler to say that ‘all the human DNA in existence today originated from 2 individuals’?

Well human DNA was probably different from other proto-human species in some small way.

Also, you have to point out mitochondrial Eve because she was the most recent common ancestor, but not the first human. Simply saying "it started with 2 individuals" doesn't take that into account.

[equip]

You obviously do not understand the first sentence in the first paragraph.

[HexRei]

Originally posted by equip
“All the human mitochondrial DNA sequences that exist today are descended from that of one African woman, just as all the Y chromosomes can be traced back to that of one man. Indeed, it has been estimated that all the human DNA in existence today originated with as few as 86,000 individuals.”

Wouldn’t it be simpler to say that ‘all the human DNA in existence today originated from 2 individuals’?

No, because that's not what the excerpt means. Mitochondria have their own DNA separate from human DNA. The "first sentence in the first paragraph" (an odd way to put it since there is only one paragraph in your quote) refers to mitochondrial DNA, not human nuclear DNA.

You might also note that the next sentence specifically rules out your "simpler" rephrasing, stating outright that human DNA is likely originated from somewhere in the neighborhood of 86,000 individuals.

Also, did I miss the context of this quote somewhere earlier in the thread? posting a couple of sentences from one article isn't a great way to get commentary on the meaning of the article to be honest. linkage?

[gingerballs]

Originally posted by mercuria
quite on the contrary.
it's hardly the habit of bourgeoisie to start any kind of revolution.
it's the oppressed, the hungry, the angry, the poor that are the hardest to control. for they have nothing to lose.

but we're digressing into politics here.

To bad history totally conflicts with that in every way. When you are hungry and starving, being angry doesn't go far. Good luck on getting 1,000 starving, untrained people to attack 500 well fed and armed soldiers. Lets say the first 1,000 attacks and is slaughtered, the next 1,000 isn't going to do it.

Why would well fed people revolt?

You also give people common enemies, like America did with the middle east. They gave the uneducated people of our country a common enemy and then started raping us of our rights and freedoms under the guise that it was to protect us from our enemies.

Uneducated People who are starving and hungry are going to go for the first place they are welcome, which would be Religion.

If you believe that religion and politics have nothing in common then you really really need some serious history lessons.

But, you are ready and willing to be baptized into this den of lies and control, so I'm not surprised at your lack of understanding on this issue. People who are not educated tend to make uneducated choices. Religion will always have a place for people who have not or will not gain an understand of its hand in the history of the world.

Originally posted by andromeda_68
..........so?

it's wrong for humans to seek comfort?


Yes, when its at the cost of truth. Comfort should always be second to the truth.

[equip]

Originally posted by HexRei
No, because that's not what the excerpt means. Mitochondria have their own DNA separate from human DNA. The "first sentence in the first paragraph" (an odd way to put it since there is only one paragraph in your quote) refers to mitochondrial DNA, not human nuclear DNA.

You might also note that the next sentence specifically rules out your "simpler" rephrasing, stating outright that human DNA is likely originated from somewhere in the neighborhood of 86,000 individuals.

Also, did I miss the context of this quote somewhere earlier in the thread? posting a couple of sentences from one article isn't a great way to get commentary on the meaning of the article to be honest. linkage?

The quote comes from Niall Ferguson and this book. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/War-World-Historys-Hatred-History/dp/0713997087)

Proto-humans aside, the concept of a single woman from Africa and a chromosomal ‘Adam’ seems to be self explanatory.

[Andromeda.]

Originally posted by Zero5


Yes, when its at the cost of truth. Comfort should always be second to the truth.

but there are catholic physicists.....?

and not just the fake kind that learn enough just enough elementary philosophy, chemistry and math to "prove" creationism. there are real, true-blue, actual scientists out there that have spiritual sides, and real, honest-to-god religion-seekers who believe in the facts.

they just know how to separate the realms, aka, not using te bible as a science text and their biology book for inspiration
wait i'm a hypocrite, because i use astromony as my inspiration. shit!
i'm drunk.

[Andromeda.]

Originally posted by Zero5


You also give people common enemies, like America did with the middle east. They gave the uneducated people of our country a common enemy and then started raping us of our rights and freedoms under the guise that it was to protect us from our enemies.

mccarthyism = soviets / atheists/ cubans / vietnamese / recent history example

it's absolutely cyclic. there will always be an enemy peddled to us as the "threat from without usurping us from within" -- AND THE ONLY THING THAT CAN FIX IT IS BUCKLING DOWN TO OUR CONSERVATIVE ROOTS AND MANDATING TEH MORALZ UPON ALLZ!!1!1!11 *rolls eyes*

it's an effective tool. a corrupt tool of the machine. doesn't mean that every single person who seeks solice is part of the feeding machine, though. sometimes, things really ARE personal.

[mercuria]

Originally posted by Zero5
[B]To bad history totally conflicts with that in every way. When you are hungry and starving, being angry doesn't go far. [B]

France, 1789-1799.
The Franco-Prussian war and the Barricades in Paris in 1870
Russia, 1905, 1917.

Revolutions are usually thought up by intellectuals, but are carried out by the poor, uneducated, and very, very angry.
it's all in the history books, Rob. you just need to read 'em.

[equip]

I think of life this way… There were/are brilliant scientists and philosophers from all nationalities and genotypes. We just don’t all get along and the war for heart, body and mind is still ongoing.

[mercuria]

Originally posted by andromeda_68
doesn't mean that every single person who seeks solice is part of the feeding machine, though. sometimes, things really ARE personal.
precisely.
after dealing with politics (international, domestic, and corporate) sometimes you just want to look up from the computer and find peace within your soul.
doesn't mean you have to run to the nearest church.

[equip]

I wish I had a job where people hitting on each other didn’t turn into WW3.

[Andromeda.]

Originally posted by mercuria
France, 1789-1799.
The Franco-Prussian war and the Barricades in Paris in 1870
Russia, 1905, 1917.

Revolutions are usually thought up by intellectuals, but are carried out by the poor, uneducated, and very, very angry.
it's all in the history books, Rob. you just need to read 'em.

funny thing about te starving underclass, total catch 22 dependig on the circumstance. sometimes it ends up with the underclass accepting the party line as truth to strive for (brahman class / castes anyone?) and succumbing to their god-given "fates"...other times, it spawns such a rage that that it overthrows the sleepig giant in charge and replaces it with an equally terrifying one that's actually awake. and there's literally no way of predicting which way itll go.

history is sooooooooo fucked up.








i'm drunk ignore me :(

[mercuria]

i'm not an expert on the caste system, so i'm not going to venture into an argument in this respect. :D
after all, it did exist for 1500 years, somehow.

[HexRei]

Originally posted by equip

Proto-humans aside, the concept of a single woman from Africa and a chromosomal ‘Adam’ seems to be self explanatory.
Holy shit, did you even read the rest of my post? I completely refuted your assertion, and then you just restated it again. :confused: astonishing.

[Rigel]

Originally posted by HexRei
Holy shit, did you even read the rest of my post? I completely refuted your assertion, and then you just restated it again. :confused: astonishing.

Hehehe...no matter if you know that's what they do, and you know it's coming...it's still downright surprising every time it happens.

[HexRei]

Originally posted by Rigel
Hehehe...no matter if you know that's what they do, and you know it's coming...it's still downright surprising every time it happens.

yeah, its just... it was only like four sentences.... bleh. disappointed once more :(

[Headie]

Originally posted by equip
I wish I had a job where people hitting on each other didn’t turn into WW3.

haha

how did this get from a mom and daughters foursome to conflicts in literal creationism.

[Cethe]

ok back on track here...

I was at a wine event with my mom saturday. I was wearing a t-shirt that said on the front "malt whiskey" in the Disney font....on the back it says "friskey for whiskey"

not more then 10 minutes there and several people were commenting on it.

only took about 30 minutes for a group of late 30's & early 40's "eastside" mom's came up & started talking to me about my shirt. and how much they wanted one like it...for "those nights i feel real frisky" and she gives me that lil arm nudge and a wink....

mom is totally embarrased at this point....

but i'm not rude, and participate in the conversation...thank them for the compliment and make our way up to the next wine tasting.

a little later we're gettin lunch. the "MILF ringleader" was right behind me....we sat down...she sat at another table across from me, where my mom couldn't see her...she was lookin and making lil faces & gestures the whole time I ate.

[fuerve]

Originally posted by Cethe
a little later we're gettin lunch. the "MILF ringleader" was right behind me....we sat down...she sat at another table across from me, where my mom couldn't see her...she was lookin and making lil faces & gestures the whole time I ate.

Did you punch it?

[sentravq]

Falcon Punch
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w286/unhinged5/falconpuch.gif

[Cethe]

BUWAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!


no lucas, mom was giving me dirty looks the whole time.
she even said "i'm not taking you anywhere in that shirt again."

[gingerballs]

Originally posted by mercuria
Revolutions are usually thought up by intellectuals, but are carried out by the poor, uneducated, and very, very angry.
it's all in the history books, Rob. you just need to read 'em.

Yes so you just proved my point.

Intellectuals think them up and get them going. When you take them away (which the goverment and churches are EXTREMELY good at) you have poor, and hungry people who do nothing but continue to scrape to get by.

Poor and hungry people without some kind of guiding force will continue to be hungry and poor if they have an opposing force large enough to keep them scared and down. More times then not people move from one slave master to another.

So yeah, I think you need to expand your education a little.

but eh, do whatever you want.

If you want to worship a voodoo Jewish zombie be my guest. You will be the one shucked like a an oyster, not I.