2008 Beijing Olympics

[MrMiyagi]

so did any of you guys wakeup early to watch the opening ceremony? my one comment is... good luck London, you are NOT going to top that...

anyways, for those watching the games, which events are you looking forward to watching? I always like to watch Judo, Ping-pong, and Weightlifting...

[seattle science]

The Olympic Games represent the foolhardy allegance of the masses to their national slave masters who keep them in bondage and blinded to the systematic capitalist holocaust being waged against brown people across the globe by Haliburton in its neverending quest to rid the world of Islam while spreading Christianity throughout populations who live amongst the ashes of the formerly magestic rain forests which will soon house the displaced sweaty polar bears with big McDonalds arches stenciled on their coats which provides blood money that lines the coffers of the Jews who carried out 9/11 and not only want to eat your children but manipulate the military industrial complex to wage a holy war on the ozone layer.

[Nyxie]

Show jumping FTW!

[MrMiyagi]

Originally posted by seattle science
The Olympic Games represent the foolhardy allegance of the masses to their national slave masters who keep them in bondage and blinded to the systematic capitalist holocaust being waged against brown people across the globe by Haliburton in its neverending quest to rid the world of Islam while spreading Christianity throughout populations who live amongst the ashes of the formerly magestic rain forests which will soon house the displaced sweaty polar bears with big McDonalds arches stenciled on their coats which provides blood money that lines the coffers of the Jews who carried out 9/11 and not only want to eat your children but manipulate the military industrial complex to wage a holy war on the ozone layer.


translation: "Ignorance is bliss"

[Nyxie]

well they can just move to Mars then.

[djsteel]

Originally posted by seattle science
The Olympic Games represent the foolhardy allegance of the masses to their national slave masters who keep them in bondage and blinded to the systematic capitalist holocaust being waged against brown people across the globe by Haliburton in its neverending quest to rid the world of Islam while spreading Christianity throughout populations who live amongst the ashes of the formerly magestic rain forests which will soon house the displaced sweaty polar bears with big McDonalds arches stenciled on their coats which provides blood money that lines the coffers of the Jews who carried out 9/11 and not only want to eat your children but manipulate the military industrial complex to wage a holy war on the ozone layer.

LOL. You are so right dude...Im moving to Canada!

[seattle science]

Originally posted by MrMiyagi
translation: "Ignorance is bliss"

Indeed. Which is why I cannot watch the Olympics without wanting to hang myself.

[seattle science]

Originally posted by djsteel
LOL. You are so right dude...Im moving to Canada!

Well, if you move to Canada it's okay to wave the flag and cheer for your atheletes. Just don't let me see you doing that patriotic bullshit around here.

[More Wise]

i fell asleep during the opening stuff last night.. some of that coreography would make that hick hooker on that dance show stfu...

it was seriously amazing.. especially the entire box lifting imitating water.. that shit was dope!!

[milgramShock]

wow, only 1 billion watched the usa vs. china basketball game. thats a lot of sit.

[dislocatedlogic]

How is it that not one channel on cable is showing the Olympics right now?

[Amberella]

Originally posted by Nyxie
Show jumping FTW!

Agreed, would be nice if they'd show more of the equestrian stuff, and less barfy human interest pieces on every single athlete there.

[djsence]

Originally posted by dislocatedlogic
How is it that not one channel on cable is showing the Olympics right now?

maybe because it is 5am Tuesday in China....

[dislocatedlogic]

Originally posted by djsence
maybe because it is 5am Tuesday in China.... DON'T CARE!

[milgramShock]

huh.. i can see it on my directv. i have four channels showing stuff.

right now i can see tennis and boxing.

[gingerballs]

I had to laugh while watching the people trying to bike in the rain.

The announcer was like "The oil in the rain is really effecting the roads" At least in London you wont have to worry about getting a weekend case of lung cancer.

Oh and did you see the Korean women ride her bike across the bike lanes knocking other bikers over, and then fly into the ditch? Just like an Asian women to change lanes and not signal...

[milgramShock]

Originally posted by Zero5

The announcer was like "The oil in the rain is really effecting the roads" At least in London you wont have to worry about getting a weekend case of lung cancer.

cause London has amazing clean air as well!

[gingerballs]

Never said that.

[Boyd Main]

Originally posted by Nyxie
Show jumping FTW!

and sometimes, FTL!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/images/747298.jpg

[Amberella]

Everybody falls at one point or another. That's why horse sports take balls.

[milgramShock]

Originally posted by Zero5
Never said that.


sigh... yes. i know.

[gingerballs]

Originally posted by Boyd Main
and sometimes, FTL!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/images/747298.jpg

Why does that horse have a squirrel tail?

[IrisSilverMoon]

Originally posted by Zero5
Why does that horse have a squirrel tail?

it doesn't, that's part of the brush fence it fell over.

*ahem* @ Boyd Man that is also not show jumping, that is three day eventing (a combination of dressage, cross country and show jumping), where the fences are solid and can be pretty big (imagine taking a solid fennce four feet high and five feet across at a gallop!) and falls like that are a common occurance. I have the last two summer olympic three day eventing shows on video, its my favorite to watch. I will buy this years as well (usually its a christmas present).

[seattle science]

Females love ponies.

[Boyd Main]

Originally posted by IrisSilverMoon
*ahem* @ Boyd Man that is also not show jumping, that is three day eventing (a combination of dressage, cross country and show jumping), where the fences are solid and can be pretty big (imagine taking a solid fennce four feet high and five feet across at a gallop!) and falls like that are a common occurance. I have the last two summer olympic three day eventing shows on video, its my favorite to watch. I will buy this years as well (usually its a christmas present).

LOL, I know, I know. I was just having a laugh. I saw that picture this morning when I was checking up on the kiwi three day team. They're obviously not doing too well. I've been a big fan of the sport since Mark Todd won the first of his golds in LA in 84.

Sports I'm following this year - the indoor volleyball is pretty awesome. It's all the beauty and rhythm of basketball, but without the egos. Also, rowing. Saturday is going to be a big one for the black singlets. A couple of golds, if not more, I reckon.

[RichPoor]

Womens Gymnastics FTW. It's like a gym full of prostitots...j/k

[seattle science]

Is this really the last Olympics w/ women's softball? Yet air pistol shooting and ping pong remain?!

[IrisSilverMoon]

Originally posted by Boyd Main
LOL, I know, I know. I was just having a laugh. I saw that picture this morning when I was checking up on the kiwi three day team. They're obviously not doing too well. I've been a big fan of the sport since Mark Todd won the first of his golds in LA in 84.


ah...that's a bummer, the kiwis usually do very well in eventing.

[gingerballs]

Originally posted by IrisSilverMoon
it doesn't, that's part of the brush fence it fell over.

No shit, I was being silly.

[milgramShock]

Originally posted by Zero5
No shit, I was being silly.


so was i. double win.

[gingerballs]

Stop riding my wave lol.

[milgramShock]

i was in line for the next one. surfs up, yo.

[budaho]

i'm loving the online content. i can actually watch all of every sport i want to watch and none of the bs i don't care about at all. nbc's online player is annoying though.

the judo and fencing tournaments have been great. so has the boxing. i haven't gotten to the tkd or wrestling yet.

i haven't caught very much of the tv stuff, but the gymnastics swimming and waterpolo i saw was entertaining. the men's 200 freestyle relay final was something else.

[milgramShock]

Originally posted by budaho
the men's 200 freestyle relay final was something else.


hell yeah.

[BobbyRitalin]

Originally posted by seattle science
The Olympic Games represent the foolhardy allegance of the masses to their national slave masters who keep them in bondage and blinded to the systematic capitalist holocaust being waged against brown people across the globe by Haliburton in its neverending quest to rid the world of Islam while spreading Christianity throughout populations who live amongst the ashes of the formerly magestic rain forests which will soon house the displaced sweaty polar bears with big McDonalds arches stenciled on their coats which provides blood money that lines the coffers of the Jews who carried out 9/11 and not only want to eat your children but manipulate the military industrial complex to wage a holy war on the ozone layer.


so to sum it up, you're watching womens beach volleyball too huh?

[MrMiyagi]

Originally posted by budaho

the judo and fencing tournaments have been great.

the judo has been great...

fencing, first time I've ever seen that... I didn't know there was so much technology involved... but I'll tell you, those Italians are poor-losers (c'mon, red cards?)...

I've been watching swimming and... badminton... too... there's been a lot of coverage for both...

[MrMiyagi]

Originally posted by BobbyRitalin
so to sum it up, you're watching womens beach volleyball too huh?

I was, up until I found out that Japan's top duo didn't actually qualify for it...

http://image.news.livedoor.com/newsimage/0/f/0bfd7fe9e58399ef83b36423e12b4751.jpg

the right one is Miwa Asao... the only reason why I watch BV...

[FREEEZZ]

WTF is up with King 5! They have cut the feed every night and I miss what I have been wanting to see.
BASTARDS you might as well be the IRS!

[milgramShock]

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/foto/e4b1cbd5_bushaap.jpg

[schwyn.dr]

i will say that watching walsh, and may, play so fucking cohesive together, and getting that gold was worth the 30-40 min of the time i took to stay up to watch it, they were fucking great.

[Boyd Main]

Usain Bolt was incredible. A far more dominant performance than Phelps, IMO.

[Boyd Main]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44933000/jpg/_44933841_flame.jpg

[MrMiyagi]

Originally posted by Boyd Main
Usain Bolt was incredible. A far more dominant performance than Phelps, IMO.

I say that those records won't stay long... he's proven that taller guys can run as fast or faster now... I think we're going to start seeing taller guys train for the short track events...

[tr0llaccount]

Originally posted by Boyd Main
Usain Bolt was incredible. A far more dominant performance than Phelps, IMO.

how so?

[Boyd Main]

He won by an incredible margin in the 200m, and broke a WR into a 1m/s headwind. He won by a greater margin than Phelps did in any race, and in none of his races did he ever look like anyone could beat him. He made every single other competitor look snailpaced. Phelp's WRs all came in a pool designed to be fast. Bolts WR's came on a track that's just the same as any other track. Sure Phelps won more races than Bolt, but if there were backwards and sideways and skipping track events, Bolt would probably have won those too.

[seattle science]

Yeah, 8 gold medals ain't that remarkable.

[Boyd Main]

Originally posted by seattle science
Yeah, 8 gold medals ain't that remarkable.

Shut your trap, you strawman-making nincompoop.

To put it in quantitative terms, in the five individual events that Phelps won, his average margin of victory was 1% of his time in that event. Bolt won his medals with an average margin of 2.7% of his time.

[seattle science]

How many medals does Bolt have?

[milgramShock]

Originally posted by seattle science
How many medals does Bolt have?

2?

[seattle science]

Well, since we decided to put things into quantitative terms, 8 > 2.

[Boyd Main]

Well, thanks for pointing out the obvious. Phelps may have won more medals, but he didn't dominate his competition in the way that Bolt did. Phelps surpassed Spitz's achievements, but they are pretty much of a similar level, at least in terms of a single Olympics. No-one has ever dominated the track sprints like Bolt has in Beijing.

[seattle science]

Oh, I thought we were putting things in "quantitative" terms. That being the case, then you're right, it is very obvious that the a quantity of 8 thoroughly dominates a quantity of 2.

[Boyd Main]

Originally posted by Boyd Main
Shut your trap, you strawman-making nincompoop.

[seattle science]

Uh oh, here come the waterworks.

[Boyd Main]

Alright, looks like I better make it a little easier for your simple brain to understand. At the top of the page, I said :

Originally posted by Boyd Main
Usain Bolt was incredible. A far more dominant performance than Phelps, IMO.

That doesn't mean that I think that Bolt dominated Phelps, it means that Bolt dominated his competition to a much greater degree than Phelps did. In fact his winning margins were 2.7 times greater, proportionately, than Phelps'.

Here's a thought experiment: Canoeist X wins two gold medals by tiny margins. Kayaker Y wins one event by a huge margin, shattering a long standing WR. Who was more dominant?

[seattle science]

What happened to quantitative terms? Haha.

Personally, I think Phelps and his domination of his competition with 8 gold medals is nothing compared to the Chinese domination in badminton. In womens doubles the Chinese won the gold by taking the last 15 points straight. Phelps nor Bolt come anywhere near approaching such greatness.

[Boyd Main]

That's true. Likewise the Russian polevaulter who laid with a towel over her head while her competitors were toiling away, only to get up once almost everyone else had failed, and proceed to break her own world record for the 13th time.

[equip]

http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/1350/the-curse-of-the-fuwa.html

Aside from our own predispositions and interpretations, the world doesn't march to 'our' drum.

[RichPoor]

Ok, let's forget medal counts. Look at how many races Phelps had to compete in and how close together some of them were. 8 golds are amazing, winning or moving on in that many rounds so close together is phenomenal.

[MrMiyagi]

Originally posted by seattle science
Oh, I thought we were putting things in "quantitative" terms. That being the case, then you're right, it is very obvious that the a quantity of 8 thoroughly dominates a quantity of 2.

quantity of medals in one Olympics means absolutely nothing... Phelps had more events that he COULD compete in...

lets look at someone like Ayumi Tanimoto in Judo... she has won EVERY one of her matches by Ippon (basically a Knockout for you non-judo illiterates) in the last two Olympics (Beijing and Athens)... for her work, it has only equaled to two gold medals... that's the max she CAN get... that, is equally impressive to anything Phelps has done... I guarentee she will be competing again in London, and more than likely she will continue to dominate... will Phelps?

[OurManFlint]

Originally posted by seattle science
Well, since we decided to put things into quantitative terms, 8 > 2. He has 8 because he can enter 8. What about the women's beach vollyball team. They proved to be the most dominant in the sport, and yet they will only take one. I think this whole 8 medals for Phelps is kind of overblown. He won 8 medals. OK, well there are athletes more dominant in their repesctive sports that can only win one or two. Get over it.

[pitch1000]

Phelps trained for the other meets, they are in the water but not the same, he has a great advantage because not a lot of the other sports have too much variety of contests within the same field. any of the runners could accomplish something similar, but there just not as deterimined as phelps. yeah, go phelps go. i think its over rated too, but he does have to put in more work to be good at each different meet, maybe not like the gymnists have to do, maybe more.

[tr0llaccount]

Originally posted by Boyd Main
Shut your trap, you strawman-making nincompoop.

To put it in quantitative terms, in the five individual events that Phelps won, his average margin of victory was 1% of his time in that event. Bolt won his medals with an average margin of 2.7% of his time.

i'd argue that it's probably a lot 'easier' (don't misread my usage of that word) to be a specialist in 2 events, and thus dominate them, than to win 8 events.

[IrisSilverMoon]

hmm...bolt apparently just broke another world record and grabbed yet another gold.

[seattle science]

I used to be a Phelps hater, but then when I realized how many other Phelps haters there are, I quickly became a Phelps hater hater.

Fuck Phelps, and the Olympics. Witnessing "racewalking" spoiled the entire thing for me.

[mercuria]

Ex-sprinter Marion Jones moved from prison in Fort Worth to San Antonio
pending Sept. 5 release
FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) _ Former world athletics sprint champion Marion
Jones has been moved from a U.S. federal prison in Fort Worth and will serve
the remainder of her sentence in San Antonio.
The disgraced Olympian was sentenced to six months in prison in January
for lying to U.S. government agents about her doping and a check-fraud scam.
Jones also was ordered to do 400 hours of community service in each of the
two years following her release.
Federal Bureau of Prisons spokeswoman Traci Billingsley says Jones was
transferred to a community corrections center in San Antonio on Tuesday.
The Dallas Morning News reported Friday the transfer is part of the
process toward the Sept. 5 scheduled release of Jones. She entered prison in
early March.

[Boyd Main]

Originally posted by seattle science
Witnessing "racewalking" spoiled the entire thing for me.

Funnily enough, competitive walking is to the track events as breaststroke, backstroke and butterfly are to swimming; a slower, form-prescribed event.

[Hukt On Wax]

yeah i was so stoned last night i coulda sworn i was watching speed walking on the olympics..... really harshed my buzz when i actually figured out i was watching speed walking on the olympics :)

[seattle science]

Originally posted by Boyd Main
Funnily enough, competitive walking is to the track events as breaststroke, backstroke and butterfly are to swimming; a slower, form-prescribed event.

Even funnier is that every single event in the Olympics is "form prescribed."

Also, fly is harder than freestyle. Walking is not harder than running. Analogy failure.

[Boyd Main]

Originally posted by seattle science
Even funnier is that every single event in the Olympics is "form prescribed."

Also, fly is harder than freestyle. Walking is not harder than running. Analogy failure.

On your first point, are you sure? How did Dick Frosby do what he did if that's the case? And what exactly is the meaning of Freestyle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freestyle_swimming), then? (click the link if you're not sure)

On your second point, have you ever tried competitive walking? It's WAY harder than running - that is why there are judges following the racers around, because it's common for them to revert to the easier gait of running.

Rebuttal double failure. Keep it up and you might challenge Phelps for domination... in the event of FAIL.

[seattle science]

Can you pull yourself by the lane rope in freestyle swimming?

P.S. Holy fucking Christ... You race-walk, don't you, you race walking son of a bitch. Forgive me, "competitive walk" (industry term?) Quick, call Summer's Eve for a sponsorship deal.

[pitch1000]

summer's eve sounds so familiar..hey! aren't they in the business of douching?!

[NeOmega]

Originally posted by seattle science
Even funnier is that every single event in the Olympics is "form prescribed."

Also, fly is harder than freestyle. Walking is not harder than running. Analogy failure.

Running is not form prescribed. It is as fast as a human can possibly go. You can run as funny as you wish. Same with shotput and javelin throw, although forms are preferred because of their practicality.

And with that, I will also say, that with Jamaica in 3rd place gold and total medals for track and field, is quite impressive for a tiny 3rd world country.

I'm not a phelps hater, but the big story for the 2008 Olympics is Jamaica.

[St. Earl]

so i'm watching the prostitots playing with hula hoops competition...


did i miss the "giving a light show" event?

[St. Earl]

i just watched the unfortunate jimmy page appearance in the handover ceremony.
i hope like hell he gets the zeppelin reunion he wants.
it just can't end like this.

[seattle science]

Anybody watch the men's indoor volleyball final? Easily the most entertaining event of the Olympics. That shit is nuts!

If that makes me an honorary member of the pink team, so be it.