Slapping the children with felonies to protect the children

[outoftowner]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491624,00.html


This is ridiculous. I touched little mary jane rottencroch's boobies when I was like 6. Does that make me a child molester? No way!

[burnt]

this trend of seeking adult punishment for "crimes" committed by juveniles and minors is ... disturbing.

[Cethe]

actually this sort of thing is HUGE bizness right now.

and it's not so much that 13 year old johnny took some naked pics with his phone of 14 year old suzie.....

but as soon as they start emailing & sending them about the interwebs....they end up in 30 year old PEDO BEAR's puter.....

THAT's how they *usually get found out about anyway.

if it were as simple as johnny & susie...yeah it's kids being kids. but i bet mom & DAD of lil susie don't want old farts fapping away at their underage daughter.

[meeotch]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491624,00.html


This is ridiculous. I touched little mary jane rottencroch's boobies when I was like 6. Does that make me a child molester? No way!

At least you didn't touch her crotch.

[budaho]

doesn't that article say the father is being charged with a fellony? didn't see where it said the children were being charged...

[meeotch]

doesn't that article say the father is being charged with a fellony? didn't see where it said the children were being charged...

The father of one of the six middle-school students facing felony child-porn charges over partially nude photos of a female classmate in Massachusetts is arguing that the boys have been punished enough by their parents and should not be slapped with the felony charges.

fuck you, 10 char minimum

[budaho]

fuck you, 10 char minimum



hmm, i should read more carefully.

[booboo69]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491624,00.html


This is ridiculous. I touched little mary jane rottencroch's boobies when I was like 6. Does that make me a child molester? No way!
Whats further disturbing is that there have been cases where girls have taken pictures of themselves and have faced or been threatened with felony distribution charges. Absolutely unreal. Pretty soon you won't be able to take a picture of your baby being bathed without it being considered pornographic.

[meeotch]

^^^You remind me of something. I was watching a potty training dvd the other way (yes, I'm still learning, har har) and the little girl they were having demonstrate had her Pull-ups around her ankles but we're pretty sure that she had cotton underwear on as well. It's funny yet sad that otherwise someone (either a true pervert or some over-zealous nutjob) might consider that to be pedo-scat-porn.

[RacergirlX]

Pretty soon you won't be able to take a picture of your baby being bathed without it being considered pornographic.

People actually have gotten in trouble over that.

[NeOmega]

actually this sort of thing is HUGE bizness right now.

.


Check this out

Pennsylvania Judges send kids to prison in exchange for kickbacks worth $2.6 million.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29142654/

Prosecutors say Luzerne County Judges Mark Ciavarella and Michael Conahan took $2.6 million in payoffs to put juvenile offenders in lockups run by PA Child Care LLC and a sister company, Western PA Child Care LLC.


Time to end private prisons.

[booboo69]

^ Okay THAT is fucked up. The state is prolly gonna see a flurry of lawsuits over that.

[k1e0x]

Shit like this is going on all over the place..

It's really ironic that they don't allow children to act like adults by not allowing them to work, or vote, have sex, or drive, or smoke and drink.. etc.. because the reasoning goes they are not ready for the responsibility.. However at the same time they want to punish them like adults and have them take full responsibility when they make a mistake.

Here is one about police beating up a 12 year old girl then pressing assaulting an officer charges on her.
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2008/12/galveston_false_arrest.php
It was a little before 8 at night when the breaker went out at Emily Milburn's home in Galveston. She was busy preparing her children for school the next day, so she asked her 12-year-old daughter, Dymond, to pop outside and turn the switch back on.

As Dymond headed toward the breaker, a blue van drove up and three men jumped out rushing toward her. One of them grabbed her saying, "You're a prostitute. You're coming with me."

Dymond grabbed onto a tree and started screaming, "Daddy, Daddy, Daddy." One of the men covered her mouth. Two of the men beat her about the face and throat.

As it turned out, the three men were plain-clothed Galveston police officers who had been called to the area regarding three white prostitutes soliciting a white man and a black drug dealer.
...
After the incident, Dymond was hospitalized and suffered black eyes as well as throat and ear drum injuries.

Three weeks later, according to the lawsuit, police went to Dymond's school, where she was an honor student, and arrested her for assaulting a public servant. Griffin says the allegations stem from when Dymond fought back against the three men who were trying to take her from her home.
...
Also, "The city has investigated the matter and found that the conduct of the police officers was appropriate under the circumstances," Helfand says. "It's unfortunate that sometimes police officers have to use force against people who are using force against them. And the evidence will show that both these folks violated the law and forcefully resisted arrest."

What the fuck ehh?

Search "sexting" on google if you want more.. the stories are practically endless.

Also..

STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM POLICE, DO NOT TALK TO THEM, DON"T ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS. DON'T OPEN THE DOOR TO THEM. DO NOT GO NEAR THEM FOR ANY REASON AT ALL.

[IrisSilverMoon]

STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM POLICE, DO NOT TALK TO THEM, DON"T ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS. DON'T OPEN THE DOOR TO THEM. DO NOT GO NEAR THEM FOR ANY REASON AT ALL.

LOL...i work next to police officers almost daily.

does this mean I'm already screwed?

[HexRei]

Shit like this is going on all over the place..

It's really ironic that they don't allow children to act like adults by not allowing them to work, or vote, have sex, or drive, or smoke and drink.. etc.. because the reasoning goes they are not ready for the responsibility.. However at the same time they want to punish them like adults and have them take full responsibility when they make a mistake.

Here is one about police beating up a 12 year old girl then pressing assaulting an officer charges on her.
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2008/12/galveston_false_arrest.php


What the fuck ehh?

Search "sexting" on google if you want more.. the stories are practically endless.

Also..

STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM POLICE, DO NOT TALK TO THEM, DON"T ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS. DON'T OPEN THE DOOR TO THEM. DO NOT GO NEAR THEM FOR ANY REASON AT ALL.

E says:

So basically this boils down to "We couldn't be bothered to identify ourselves as police, or even pick up the right suspect, or care about how bad it looks when three un-uniformed men assault a 12-year-old girl, but we don't want to get in any trouble for that, so we'll blame everyone else." Niiiice.

Also:
"The father basically attacked police officers as they were trying to take the daughter into custody after she ran off."

Well, YEAH. I'd say anyone who DIDN'T attack some unidentified guys in street clothes who were trying to drag a screaming kid into a van would be the lowest kind of scum.

Charging a father with protecting his kid, and the kid for trying to defend herself. Jesus.
Posted On: Thursday, Dec. 18 2008 @ 3:16PM

If you read the article, this is pretty much dead-on. Imagine if you were a twelve year old girl who was being dragged out of her yard by plainclothes strangers. Imagine if you were her dad.


LOL...i work next to police officers almost daily.

does this mean I'm already screwed?

Your proximity as a white adult that they probably recognize as a local professional actually protects you, actually.

[tr0llaccount]

STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM POLICE, DO NOT TALK TO THEM, DON"T ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS. DON'T OPEN THE DOOR TO THEM. DO NOT GO NEAR THEM FOR ANY REASON AT ALL.

hmm, i can't say that my experiences would justify this at all.

eta: so how about that PA 11 year-old who (probably) murdered his dad's g/f?

[IrisSilverMoon]

Your proximity as a white adult that they probably recognize as a local professional actually protects you, actually.

woohoo I win!!!

I don't believe all police are awful and shouldn't be spoken to btw. Some definately corrupt and those will obviously have a greater impression on people than those that are genuinely good people and try to help people. I've seen police be unbelievabley patient with clients where I was sincerely hoping they'd drag the clients ass to jail.

what about those local cops that arrested those kids waiting for their parents on suspicion of being gang members in order to look good for the news camera. wtf?

[NeOmega]

Fantastic Frontline (redundant) documentary:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/whenkidsgetlife/view/

[HexRei]

eta: so how about that PA 11 year-old who (probably) murdered his dad's g/f?

estimated time of arrival? :)

and do you mean this case?

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1499765/11yearold_boy_kills_future_stepmother.html

It's about as wildly different as you can get. I can only assume you didnt read the two articles carefully if think the case you cited justifies the case k1e0x cited, the only similarities are the ages of the "suspects".

woohoo I win!!!

I don't believe all police are awful and shouldn't be spoken to btw. Some definately corrupt and those will obviously have a greater impression on people than those that are genuinely good people and try to help people. I've seen police be unbelievabley patient with clients where I was sincerely hoping they'd drag the clients ass to jail.

what about those local cops that arrested those kids waiting for their parents on suspicion of being gang members in order to look good for the news camera. wtf?

obviously they are not all corrupt, although i know for a fact many people (plenty of whom are on this board) have done things that warrant arrest, so it makes sense to take care even if they happen to be good officers. i will nod or say hi to a cop in public, and be friendly to the ones i know personally. but generally speaking, if a policemen is at your door, there is never a reason to let them in or answer questions unless you know exactly why those questions are being asked. be wary if a bunch of people in plainclothes and unmarked cars tell you you have to come with them, especially if you are a child. this should be obvious, but once again, that is the crux of this case, isn't it?

if they are trying to help a kidnapped friend of yours they will tell you, and you have lottery odds of something like that being the reason they are there to see you.

[tr0llaccount]

estimated time of arrival? :)

and do you mean this case?

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1499765/11yearold_boy_kills_future_stepmother.html

It's about as wildly different as you can get. I can only assume you didnt read the two articles carefully if think the case you cited justifies the case k1e0x cited, the only similarities are the ages of the "suspects".

sorry, i wasn't trying to reference or compare to any particular case mentioned my k1e0x or anyone else (i hadn't even read his links). i was just wondering if people felt that charging the kid with a felony in that case was justified.

[Cethe]

(either a true pervert or some over-zealous nutjob) might consider that to be pedo-scat-porn.


unfortunately both exist.

i mean my biggest fear really is that surfing youporn one day, i'm gonna trip over some 16 year old that is doing it her self, but got past whatever verification they do for personally uploaded porn.

cuz not only does the girl get felone ydistribution & creation charges, but i get charged just for viewing it.

[k1e0x]

LOL...i work next to police officers almost daily.

does this mean I'm already screwed?

I'll tell you.. I won't go anywhere near them. They teach you these people are your friends.. "officer friendly" .. well that's bullshit.

The powers they are given make them exceedingly dangerous to your safety if they want to use those powers against you for whatever reason they may have. Beyond that the recuiting "paid killers" from the military and the "patriotic" militaristic attitude many of them take is disturbing enough.

It only takes one authoritarian, bastard, lying cop to ruin your life. The best advice in the world is to just stay the hell away from them. I've been arrested more times than I can count and they will lie to you all day to try and get you convicted on charges they dammed well know you didn't commit.

One time when I was about 19.. I got a call out of the blue that said the police "just wanted to talk to me" .. ok .. that's pretty strange.. but I'm innocent.. I got nothing to worry about.. so I said ok.. 20 minutes later I'm handcuffed to a chair being slapped in the fucking face screamed at and being accused of robbing some old lady for several hours. They KNEW I didn't do it but they thought for some fucked up reason I "might know" who did so their brilliant idea was to integrate and assault the fuck out of a innocent person for a while.

I'm smarter now. If they ask you questions do not answer. They are not your friends, they will not help you, if your accused of a crime don't talk to the police about it just get a lawyer. Do not trust them and protect yourself by recording any interaction you have with them if you are able to. (qik.com) Not all of them are bad, I know this, but you can't tell the good ones from the bad ones, you can't be sure, so just stay away from all of them.

[B_tech]

This is ridiculous. I touched little mary jane rottencroch's boobies when I was like 6. Does that make me a child molester? No way!
The key is that they WERE THE SAME AGE. If these boys were 18+, it would be valid, but these kids were the same age as the girls they photographed. Now, if some 18 year olds received and resent the pics, THEY should be charged.

[B_tech]

One time when I was about 19.. I got a call out of the blue that said the police "just wanted to talk to me" .. ok .. that's pretty strange.. but I'm innocent.. I got nothing to worry about.. so I said ok.. 20 minutes later I'm handcuffed to a chair being slapped in the fucking face screamed at and being accused of robbing some old lady for several hours. They KNEW I didn't do it but they thought for some fucked up reason I "might know" who did so their brilliant idea was to integrate and assault the fuck out of a innocent person for a while.

Did you file harassment charges? False imprisonment charges? Cops can lie to you in an interrogation, but they can't hold you against your will if they knowingly have nothing to charge you with.

[k1e0x]

Fuck no I didn't.

This is not an isolated event.. by that time I had already had a few run in's and was not surprised by this.. Oh yeah, I just remembered.. a friend drove my truck up to the police station to go get me and they did the same shit to him. He came in to drop off the keys and they took him into a little room for a while too. (If I remember right I think they told him I said he did it, and that was their justification.)

If I filed charges against them.. like that 12 year old girl.. they would have just retaliated against me. Nobody would have even believed me.. in fact I don't even think I was ever told their names. You don't try and fight city hall and take on a group of corrupt cops.. not alone at least..

Hell you want to test this yourself? Go into your nearest police station and ask for a complaint form like this guy. (http://www.videosift.com/video/PoliceAbuseorg-Asking-Police-For-a-Complaint-Form)

[B_tech]

WTF? The DA for that county is pressing charges against the guy who was arrested for seemingly no reason? I'd LOVE to know what he was arrested for and what he was charged with.

[RacergirlX]

Don't forget the Utah case: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4783650

Utah Supreme Court justices acknowledged Tuesday that they were struggling to wrap their minds around the concept that a 13-year-old girl could be both an offender and a victim for the same act - in this case, having consensual sex with her 12-year-old boyfriend.

The Ogden, Utah, girl was put in this odd position because she was found guilty of violating a state law that prohibits sex with someone under age 14. She also was the victim in the case against her boyfriend, who was found guilty of the same violation by engaging in sexual activity with her.

There seems to be a serious problem delineating the difference between young people experimenting/expressing themselves sexually and statutory sexual assault.

Is it because of a frantic desire to de-sexualize our children rather than acknowledge that they're sexual beings?

[B_tech]

Yea, that Utah case is the prime example of shitty legislation. The thing is, she CAN be charged and even found guilty of that law as it exists; her attorney is flat-out wrong in this statement: "A child (victim) cannot also be a perpetrator in the exact same act," Richards said.
Here's the thing.. it's 2 acts/1 incident. The boy had sexual intercourse (1 act) and the girl had sexual intercourse (1 act) and both did it with each other (1 incident)... by that account, they can both be charged with the same crime against each other.


But again.... STUPID law and way too overprotective.

[Cethe]

The key is that they WERE THE SAME AGE. If these boys were 18+, it would be valid, but these kids were the same age as the girls they photographed. Now, if some 18 year olds received and resent the pics, THEY should be charged.



so wait...by your rationale, as long as the photographer (as it were) is the same age as the "model" then....it doesn't matter their actual age....and WHERE THE KIDDIE PORN ENDS UP IN THE END??


do you guys miss the fact that while yeah, suzie & johnnie are all 15, the naked bobbies or panty shot of little suzie IS ENDING UP IN THE HARD DRIVES OF OLD ASSED PEDO BEARS

yes little johnnie thought it'd be funny to post his (now) ex's naked pics....old pedo DL's & distro's further.

[k1e0x]

WTF? The DA for that county is pressing charges against the guy who was arrested for seemingly no reason? I'd LOVE to know what he was arrested for and what he was charged with.

How much you want to bet it's disorderly conduct?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28679588/
In the WPXI story, which included contributions from the Associated Press, Saranko indicated that authorities decided to file the child pornography charges to send a strong message to other minors who might consider sending such photos to friends.

"It's very dangerous," he said. "Once it's on a cell phone, that cell phone can be put on the Internet where everyone in the world can get access to that juvenile picture. You don't realize what you are doing until it's already done."

Oh noooez.. nudity on the interwebz.. thas DANGEROUS! Run an hide tha pictuer will GET U. We mus put dem evil juvinal terrorists in jail and fuk der lives up to ptotect tha publik!! :rolleyes:

The reason child porn is illegal is because of the harmful method of creation of child porn.. forcing a child to preform sex acts.. not self taken pictures by teenagers. God these people have lost touch with reality.

Every time people say stuff like that I think of. Doug Stanhope - MySpace Pedophiles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8APlx9btTn8

"They act like myspace creates pedophiles.
How does this myspace work, hmm..
I log in, I fill out a profile... and..
..
Why haven't I been fucking children all these years?"

[Cethe]

so you think that a naked picture of a 15 year old is ok to own/posess/view/take?

hmmm...

yeah, not so much dude.

[burnt]

I think 15 year old girls who knowingly and willingly take naked pictures of themselves and distribute it should get into heaps of trouble as well, and should be forced into some kind of counseling - or possibly a juvenile detention center.

if its illegal to own it and distribute it - well, it should be illegal for everybody involved in the process.

[k1e0x]

I think 15 year old girls who knowingly and willingly take naked pictures of themselves and distribute it should get into heaps of trouble as well, and should be forced into some kind of counseling - or possibly a juvenile detention center.

if its illegal to own it and distribute it - well, it should be illegal for everybody involved in the process.

Yeah because it's so much better for them to put their ass in jail and label them as a permanent sex offender.

Your fucked up dude.


"Dats the law.. We don't question da laws we just blindly enforce em.. you don't fuck with tha law now. clear?"

[Cethe]

are you fucking serious??

so you WOULD RATHER have kiddie porn out there?

seriously?

YOU SIR are fucked up.

[k1e0x]

are you fucking serious??

so you WOULD RATHER have kiddie porn out there?

seriously?

YOU SIR are fucked up.

I wouldn't *rather* it be out there. IT IS OUT THERE. That's not the point.

The point is I don't think teenagers taking nude pics of themselves and sending them to their boyfriend / girlfriends should go to jail.

Yeah I'm a fucking monster for that ... sure.. try to raise that straw man Cethe. Tell me how "good" it will be for them to go to jail for a sex offense. Their lives will rock after that I'm sure.

[burnt]

I wouldn't *rather* it be out there. IT IS OUT THERE. That's not the point.

The point is I don't think teenagers taking nude pics of themselves and sending them to their boyfriend / girlfriends should go to jail.

Yeah I'm a fucking monster for that ... sure.. try to raise that straw man Cethe. Tell me how "good" it will be for them to go to jail for a sex offense. Their lives will rock after that I'm sure.

I didn't say jail.

but something comparable to rehab? yes, I would support that...

[k1e0x]

I didn't say jail.

but something comparable to rehab? yes, I would support that...

But that *is* what is happening here isn't it? It's not a nice cute kind and helpful "rehab". It's *criminal* charges.

We need to look at who is harmed and the elements of a crime here. The picture hurts only the person who voluntarily took it, the victims of these sexting "crimes" are the perpetrators. I don't believe it's possible to commit a crime against yourself even when your acting in bad judgment. "Yeah, it probbly wasn't a good idea to huff all that glue was it. Guess I'm a criminal and need to go to jail for it because I committed a crime against myself."

It doesn't help these kids to get the state involved because the state *is* going to cause real harm to them, long lasting deep fucking harm, more than an embarrassing photo will ever cause. If the parents want to deal with this by counseling then that is ok.. but NEVER jail.. that does nobody any good.

It's not even *promoting* child pornography. ( Is nudity even actually pornography at all? If it is, does that mean we should arrest parents for baby in bathtub pictures too? )

There is REAL child pornography out there and it's really sick and really wrong. There are real victims in it's creation too. But if that's not available.. a Pedo will fucking jack off to the underwear section of a sears catalog ok so you could make the same argument that sears catalogs are promoting pedophilia. Your not going to "cure" pedophilia, by jailing teenagers that's for fucking sure. I don't think sexting is a crime.. I think forcing a child to commit a sex act is a crime.

[Cethe]

There is REAL child pornography out there and it's really sick and really wrong. Pedo's will fucking jack off to a sears catalog ok so you could make the same argument that sears catalogs are promoting pedophilia. Your not going to "cure" pedophilia, by jailing teenagers that's for fucking sure.


\this we generally agree with.

i am a bit biased. i hear it from my mom who's a forensic nurse examiner that helps prove & disprove weather that clean shaven vag pic is "legal" or not.

i'd actually heard about these cases a couple years ago.

the new campaign they are actually taking here in western wa, is education in the schools. various nurses in my mom's office go to area jr high & high schools & talk to kids. this case is an example they use.

and yes, in general there's been a significant increase since that campaign started. prosecuting a couple of kids, will help the end result.

is it the BEST approach...maybe not. but it's having an effect.

[fuerve]

So while I'll grant you that most of us have no desire to see children victimized, at what point do we draw the line between a child's right to safety and a human's right not to fear his or her body? Because isn't fear of the body the setup for what becomes much of this victimization in the first place? By punishing children so severely, are we in fact just shooting ourselves in the foot?

[burnt]

dude.

most teenage girls who take "sexy" angled myspace type pics of themselves naked in the bathroom are not doing it for "art" - they're doing it to turn somebody on.

most teenage girls who submit this to the great big cloud of the internet *HAVE* to know they run a *GREAT* risk of their image going beyond their boyfriend's phone or email inbox ... and could easily wind up on the hard drive of a pedo.

there is no way they are that naive. its probably a small turn-on in the back of their mind, probably a part of the reason they're taking / sending the picture in the first place. this argument is supported by the blatant and obvious attempt at the "sexiness" of their poses.

likewise - the boyfriends who distribute the images to the internet to "get even" with their girlfriends after they break up with them - they *HAVE* to know the images could easily wind up on the hard drive of a pedo.

so like I say. jail is a bad solution. criminal charges are a bad solution. but definitely they need to be reviewed by a psychiatrist to determine possible deviant behavior, and if deviant behavior exists, they need to be rehabilitated in some kind of psychiatric institution until they're "better".

*****
they do that kind of shit to 15 year old boys who torture kittens, right? nobody says "well, but its just a cat, its not like its a real person" and nobody says "well, but they're just kids, they'll figure out not to torture animals when they get older."

I honestly think that prostitots are a pretty serious problem, and need to be addressed more seriously. I don't think they're psychologically positioned to grow up to contribute to society, unless their deviance is addressed and rectified.

that slut who was on girls gone wild, the one that grew up to be a sellout whore who got the governor of New York in so much trouble.... you can bet she was bad news when she was 12 or 13, and nobody addressed it, and she stayed bad news her whole life, and she's still bad news now.

I think jail and criminal charges is a poor solution. I think charging children with adult charges is a poor solution. but I do think a solution is necessary.

[HexRei]

um, sending someone a naked pic of themselves is not the same as torturing kittens :rolleyes: why don't you think back to what it was like to be a youth and then review your whole post, because you seem to have forgotten.

[burnt]

I am, hexrei - I never gave my girlfriend a picture of my dick, and if any of my friends would have, we would have called the fucker "creepy".

if a girl would have given any of her boyfriends or cocktease "friendzoned" boypals a picture of her tits, we would have all considered the girl to be pretty classless, and she would have immediately turned into one of those pump em and dump em type sluts that everybody picked on.

bitches like that were pretty few and far between. and ironically, were usually the sherriff's kid or the preacher's kid.

but that was a long time ago. I'm kind of an old fart.

*****
how is disseminating child pornography not "just as bad as" animal torture?

these 15 year old attention starved camwhores need serious help. its considerably more prevalent now than it was then, and its a pretty serious issue I think.

[HexRei]

yes, lets force them all into counselling for sending some a picture of their boobies. if you think that makes sense... well, i don't know what to tell you. i think you have forgotten what its like to be young.

[k1e0x]

dude.

most teenage girls who take "sexy" angled myspace type pics of themselves naked in the bathroom are not doing it for "art" - they're doing it to turn somebody on.

most teenage girls who submit this to the great big cloud of the internet *HAVE* to know they run a *GREAT* risk of their image going beyond their boyfriend's phone or email inbox ... and could easily wind up on the hard drive of a pedo.

there is no way they are that naive. its probably a small turn-on in the back of their mind, probably a part of the reason they're taking / sending the picture in the first place. this argument is supported by the blatant and obvious attempt at the "sexiness" of their poses.

likewise - the boyfriends who distribute the images to the internet to "get even" with their girlfriends after they break up with them - they *HAVE* to know the images could easily wind up on the hard drive of a pedo.

so like I say. jail is a bad solution. criminal charges are a bad solution. but definitely they need to be reviewed by a psychiatrist to determine possible deviant behavior, and if deviant behavior exists, they need to be rehabilitated in some kind of psychiatric institution until they're "better".

*****
they do that kind of shit to 15 year old boys who torture kittens, right? nobody says "well, but its just a cat, its not like its a real person" and nobody says "well, but they're just kids, they'll figure out not to torture animals when they get older."

I honestly think that prostitots are a pretty serious problem, and need to be addressed more seriously. I don't think they're psychologically positioned to grow up to contribute to society, unless their deviance is addressed and rectified.

that slut who was on girls gone wild, the one that grew up to be a sellout whore who got the governor of New York in so much trouble.... you can bet she was bad news when she was 12 or 13, and nobody addressed it, and she stayed bad news her whole life, and she's still bad news now.

I think jail and criminal charges is a poor solution. I think charging children with adult charges is a poor solution. but I do think a solution is necessary.

I'm not their dad, ya know. I'm trying to figure out who's harmed. A crime needs a victim, if there is no victim.. I don't care if its "illegal". The same thing applies to drug use, you can rail blow all day long, I don't care because there is no victim. And your raising the question of "voluntary" child pornography. Should they not be able to voluntary take "sexy" photos of themselves? Some people say even fully clothed lewd photos on myspace should be illegal. Could it be ok for someone under 18 to voluntarily get into porn? I don't know.. why? Because you get into a sticky mess of who is the guardian or ward of that child and are they able to fully understand the responsibility of their actions etc.. etc.. and I think that's diffrent for everyone. I don't think there is a set age because there are a lot of people in there 20's who don't seem to understand sometimes. In any regards I'm not god, I'm not in charge of others, and I don't make the rules so I'm lucky I guess I don't have to have an answer for that. I do think that one size fit's all is wrong though.

As for the little boy who's hurting cats. The thing they are not doing.. (at least I hope they are not) is putting him in jail. The parents should take him to a psychiatrist.. I think that's the just and proper action. I think that is healing, not harming.

I guess I have a diffrent philosophy then you. You see this as a "serious problem" that you need to fix, like you can mold and craft society's whims to your own and fix all problems or something.. I see it as some probbly unfortunate mistakes young people are making that I honestly couldn't even prevent in a good way (education) and refuse to prevent in a bad way (jail). I'm not being a defeatist here on it.. but I just don't think I have a really good solution.

I am however appalled by the current "solution" of the state because it does more harm than good and I just don't understand how some people on this board can sit there and think that it's for the "better good" of society if we ruin these kids lives over a stupid victimless crime. Like I said before, "It's a photo, it's not "dangerous" it's not a fucking bomb, get a grip, life will go on. How do you believe you can help society if your hurting the people that make up society? Does that make any sense at all? It's like they think it's good to be hurting the *real* people, the individuals who are actually getting their lives fucked over (and yes it probbly does really ruin their lives for good) because you think the faceless mass of people out there, whom we don't really know anything about or even know if they want to do it at all, will learn not to do it. We know how many it hurts.. but we only just *believe* it helps more.. well how do we actually know that? Where is the faith coming from? What if it doesn't actually help anyone at all and we are just cracking these teenagers heads in with legal clubs to send a so-called "strong messages" and *believe* "extreme punishment" will fix this problem? I just don't understand how these judges and police can be so god dammed *sure* they are doing the right thing by harming these kid. ..I think it's really hurting them and I just find the courts and polices actions discussing when they do this.

[Cethe]

k1e0x.....i would like to recind my previous neg rep. we don't agree on the solution, but after some civilized discourse, i think i understand your position better.

sorry my emotions do get the better of me sometimes.

[k1e0x]

k1e0x.....i would like to recind my previous neg rep. we don't agree on the solution, but after some civilized discourse, i think i understand your position better.

sorry my emotions do get the better of me sometimes.

All good man. :) ty for that.

I'm all for education that your mom is doing. (or .. do I have that right?) just so long as it's done in the right way. You know what I'm saying.. I don't want some cop going into the schools screaming shit at the kids like "I'll put your ass in jail if you fuck up!"

I would want them to teach the right reason, that it's bad not because the cops say so, but it's bad because it can harm them later down the road in life. Know what I mean?

[Cethe]

mom's not a cop...and funny to boot.

in her rape prevention class, she plays "if it weren't for date rape i'd never get laid" A) to get the teacher all :eek: for a minute and B) it does illistrate a good point in a way kids can hear.

sum up....she's a bitchin teacher.

[k1e0x]

mom's not a cop...and funny to boot.

in her rape prevention class, she plays "if it weren't for date rape i'd never get laid" A) to get the teacher all :eek: for a minute and B) it does illistrate a good point in a way kids can hear.

sum up....she's a bitchin teacher.

Right on.

I'm joking a little bit here.. I even think porn might not be that bad for someone to get into if that is what they really want to do.. ya know, I mean they have to weigh the decision in their life.. but it might actually be honest to god little Jimmy Johnsons calling in life to be the next Ron Jeremy, he might actually suck at everything and be unable to hold down a freaking job at wal-mart but man he can keep it hard for days and cum on command.. :p We should allow people to go after their dreams even if their dreams are you know.. like being the next anil-queen or something crazy like that.

People get too bent out of shape over nudity I think.. like somehow nakkid pics are going to infest us all with a insane desire to rape murder and burn down the town.. Hea that's from a song.. check this out. Burn and Rob (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q83dPOX51ao)

[Cethe]

Right on.

I'm joking a little bit here.. I even think porn might not be that bad for someone to get into if that is what they really want to do.. ya know, I mean they have to weigh the decision in their life.. but it might actually be honest to god little Jimmy Johnsons calling in life to be the next Ron Jeremy, he might actually suck at everything and be unable to hold down a freaking job at wal-mart but man he can keep it hard for days and cum on command.. :p We should allow people to go after their dreams even if their dreams are you know.. like being the next anil-queen or something crazy like that.

People get too bent out of shape over nudity I think.. like somehow nakkid pics are going to infest us all with a insane desire to rape murder and burn down the town.. Hea that's from a song.. check this out. Burn and Rob (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q83dPOX51ao)

LOL @ the first paragraph...yeah...could be....i do like 18 as an age limit though

the bent outta shape over nudity....THAT sir is a whole different debate. based on this so far, i'd bet we actually agree a lil more on that.

[k1e0x]

LOL @ the first paragraph...yeah...could be....i do like 18 as an age limit though

the bent outta shape over nudity....THAT sir is a whole different debate. based on this so far, i'd bet we actually agree a lil more on that.

You know what I mean tho right? It's like legislating morality proclaiming Grand Theft Auto will destroy society and must be banned. I think some people actually think if we were all forced to go to church like they do that we would all be moral good people or some shit. That somehow legislating morality would make any difference.. lets just stick to harm ya know and leave morals alone, you hurt someone you go to jail.. you shouldn't go to jail because you like piercings, saggy pants, drugs, porn, or EVEN if you think Jesus is a cock sucking fairy tail heaping mound of steaming pile of ass clown bullshit.

[Cethe]

you think Jesus is a cock sucking fairy tail heaping mound of steaming pile of ass clown bullshit.


BUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


and yeah, i totally knew what you meant. and don't even disagree with your basic sentiment.




there is a problem with pedo's.
is kiddie porn *really* gonna turn a fantacizer into a child rapist...not likely. but i bet if you looked hard enough you'd find all sorts of studies that "prove" either side of that case.

[k1e0x]

BUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


and yeah, i totally knew what you meant. and don't even disagree with your basic sentiment.




there is a problem with pedo's.
is kiddie porn *really* gonna turn a fantacizer into a child rapist...not likely. but i bet if you looked hard enough you'd find all sorts of studies that "prove" either side of that case.

Well even *being* a pedo is fine by me. I mean I think it's sick and shit, but I think they are still human and can control their urges.. and even if they can't control them they can go seek professional help to control them. People can go without sex, as.. unhappy as that sounds some people do..

Just like Doug Stanhope says in the skit I posted before.. "just don't fuck the kid" .. go beat off to the sears catalog.. just don't fuck children and we are cool.. at that point I don't care what you like to look at.

[tr0llaccount]

but I think they are still human and can control their urges.. and even if they can't control them they can go seek professional help to control them.

i think the statistics disagree with you on that little point.

[k1e0x]

i think the statistics disagree with you on that little point.

You have a problem when you say that then.. and what you start to get at is.. if they can't actually control it.. then they can't be responsible and that this is the only function that they can do like some kind of robot.

So I mean.. what is the alternative? Do you start to identify people with that gene and shoot them dead? I don't really like the idea of that.. In the early part of the 20th century was forced sterilization programs were going on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3B-GUEvc-c If people were considered to be producing offspring who were labeled "a danger to society" the could could forcibly sterilize them. Isn't that sick as fuck? People don't like to talk about that stuff but.. we did this in America.. After WW2 people turned away from this practice in horror.. but somehow sane people got warped up in the belief in the benefit of the "greater good" and lead them to accept and even pass laws enforcing this insane act.

I don't want to go back to that.. I don't want to create a class of people who are somehow "sub human" because they were convicted of a "sex crime". I think if a monk can take a vow of celibacy, I think a pedo can too.. I think they can get help, I don't believe they are criminal by their desire alone, I think their willful actions make them criminal.. but I think that can change. I don't know what the right solution to this is, I'm no sage, but I don't want to see people being genetically labeled for roles in society from birth by their genes like in the movie Gattica.. I think we can overcome our animalistic urges.. I think this is what makes us human.

[tr0llaccount]

I think if a monk can take a vow of celibacy, I think a pedo can too.. I think they can get help, I don't believe they are criminal by their desire alone, I think their willful actions make them criminal.. but I think that can change. I don't know what the right solution to this is, I'm no sage, but I don't want to see people being genetically labeled for roles in society from birth by their genes like in the movie Gattica.. I think we can overcome our animalistic urges.. I think this is what makes us human.

is there something besides kind-heartedness (is that even a word?) that makes you believe this?

[k1e0x]

is there something besides kind-heartedness (is that even a word?) that makes you believe this?

There are people out there who claim the recidivism rate of pedophiles is almost 100%, but I believe that's bogus.. it is however portrayed that way in the media.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender#Recidivism_rates
Or here is a graphic.
http://www.csom.org/images/Image13.gif

Do you want to know something that has a higher recidivism rate? Try theft.

Motor vehicle theft - 78%
Possession of stolen property - 77%
Burglary - 74%
Larceny - 74%
Robbery - 70%

Can thieves control themselves? People want to use fear to say that pedo's are crazed unfeeling mechanical biological robots with no will of their own.. I just don't believe that.

[Ultradella]

[QUOTE=burnt;2379250]

they need to be reviewed by a psychiatrist to determine possible deviant behavior, and if deviant behavior exists, they need to be rehabilitated in some kind of psychiatric institution until they're "better".

*****
they do that kind of shit to 15 year old boys who torture kittens, right? nobody says "well, but its just a cat, its not like its a real person" and nobody says "well, but they're just kids, they'll figure out not to torture animals when they get older."

.

/QUOTE]


readıng the phrase "devıant behavıor" twıce two words apart makes me thınk of a mıddle-aged guy ın the 1950s, wıth neatly parted haır and horn-rımmed glasses, and bıtterness ın hıs eyes, poıntıng hıs fınger at the camera ın a black-and-whıte antı-sex reel beıng watched ın a health class.

havıng sex ıs not the same as torturıng kıttens. takıng provocatıve pıctures of one's self ıs not the same as havıng sex. ı do thınk we should rethınk what qualıtıes we reward ın our fellow beıngs (and maybe knock sexıness down a peg or two) but takıng pleasure ın hurtıng somethıng ıs not the same as takıng pleasure ın somethıng bıologıcally buılt ın as pleasurable. actıng out sexually at any age mıght be a sıgn of deeper seeded ıssues, but takıng a topless photo or showıng your frıends a topless photo or whatever ıs not too cray-cray and should defınıtely be addressed as part of the larger pıcture of these kıds' lıves.

and for puttıng more people ın psychıatrıc ınstıtutıons, have you ever been ınsıde one? they don't emanate a very helpful aura. ınstıtutıonal lıvıng ıs pretty rough.

ıf the gırls are bıg huge whores though we already have a way to deal wıth that: maury povıch and hıs boot camp. that always seemed pretty successful

[burnt]

k1e0x - you know who else takes vows of celibacy? pedophile priests. that shit ain't working out so well now is it.

ultradella - I would counterpoint that people saying its "quite all right" for 13 year old girls to put nekkid pictures for 45 year old men to fap to - knowing that there will probably be 45 year old men fapping to it - look and smell a lot like Larry Flynt.

I'd rather hang out with guys who comb their hair and try to walk a straight line, than slimy obese crippled sexual deviants.

****
its funny actually, because I um...... I recently participated in a personal raid on that "other" internet message board which is supposed to not be named. some 16 year old girl was dating a 17 year old boy. she dumped him for the 33 year old basketball coach at the YMCA. then to "get even" with the guy, she sent him a camera phone image of her getting nailed in her bathroom by the pedo.

so.

the anonymous personal army went on the offensive. exif data was traced, faces were reverse engineered...
the end result is:
- one 33 year old pedo is in jail and has a court date coming up
- one 16 year old slut has to go to counseling and the whole school is clowning on her
- one 17 year old boy feels better about life and gets high-fived by his peers





I'd say everything turned out perfectly. =)

long story short is? come on - its the internet. don't fucking "trust" it. don't put your cooter on display and dump it onto the cloud. and if you are going to do that? for chrissake, at least wait until you're 18.

[burnt]

but hey, you know - if you guys wanna take sides with someone like Gobo...




*shrug*

[HexRei]

I recently participated in a personal raid on that "other" internet message board which is supposed to not be named. some 16 year old girl was dating a 17 year old boy. she dumped him for the 33 year old basketball coach at the YMCA. then to "get even" with the guy, she sent him a camera phone image of her getting nailed in her bathroom by the pedo.

so.

the anonymous personal army went on the offensive. exif data was traced, faces were reverse engineered...
the end result is:
- one 33 year old pedo is in jail and has a court date coming up
- one 16 year old slut has to go to counseling and the whole school is clowning on her
- one 17 year old boy feels better about life and gets high-fived by his peers





I'd say everything turned out perfectly. =)

long story short is? come on - its the internet. don't fucking "trust" it. don't put your cooter on display and dump it onto the cloud. and if you are going to do that? for chrissake, at least wait until you're 18.

GG not understanding the difference between this case and the topic at hand. also, lol at you "participating". twenty bucks says you heard about it second hand and never submitted any testimony or evidence and thus weren't actually a participant.

[burnt]

GG not understanding the difference between this case and the topic at hand. also, lol at you "participating". twenty bucks says you heard about it second hand and never submitted any testimony or evidence and thus weren't actually a participant.

haha dude no - a couple hundred fools from "ebaumsworld" took screenshots of the pictures, screenshots of the exif data, where the lat/long showed up on google maps, and links to YMCA staff - and we sent it in to the sex crimes unit. oh and I guess some folks faxed it in to the girl's dad's main fax line as well. haha that was awesome...

protip kids: - if you're going to send sexy pics of a teeny bopper to your friend, make sure to send a screenshot of a screenshot. get behind a proxy. or better yet, you know, just don't fucking do it.

*******
not the first time I've participated in shit like that. just last week we sent a kid named Kenny Glenn to juvey for posting a youtube of him beating the shit out of his cat in the shower. reverse engineering and basic googling and public record lookups - we found his myspace, read comments from him and his friends from there, figured out his last name, from there we figured out his address, from there we figured out his parents name, his school, his dad's employer, his dad's place of work....

http://www.kswo.com/Global/story.asp?S=9859463

sigh - ya - being unemployed is fucking boring. so I'm spending my afternoons ruining other peoples' lives. I've also gotten a girl kicked out of her sorority and just yesterday we were fucking around with born again christians from some singles dating site. but little girls who post their tits up are the awesomest targets.

meh. its a hobby.

[Ultradella]

[QUOTE=burnt;2379258]

if a girl would have given any of her boyfriends or cocktease "friendzoned" boypals a picture of her tits, we would have all considered the girl to be pretty classless, and she would have immediately turned into one of those pump em and dump em type sluts that everybody picked on.



QUOTE]

i posted a picture that included my boobies on this very message board*-- did that turn me into a "pump em and dump em type slut" in your eyes?

what if i told you that picture was taken ten years ago-- would that turn you all into pedophile creepazoids?

*the thread within which my boobies were posted has apparently been deleted-- you are way worse than pickles, whoever you are

[HexRei]

haha dude no - a couple hundred fools from "ebaumsworld" took screenshots of the pictures, screenshots of the exif data, where the lat/long showed up on google maps, and links to YMCA staff - and we sent it in to the sex crimes unit. oh and I guess some folks faxed it in to the girl's dad's main fax line as well. haha that was awesome...

protip kids: - if you're going to send sexy pics of a teeny bopper to your friend, make sure to send a screenshot of a screenshot. get behind a proxy. or better yet, you know, just don't fucking do it.

*******
not the first time I've participated in shit like that. just last week we sent a kid named Kenny Glenn to juvey for posting a youtube of him beating the shit out of his cat in the shower. reverse engineering and basic googling and public record lookups - we found his myspace, read comments from him and his friends from there, figured out his last name, from there we figured out his address, from there we figured out his parents name, his school, his dad's employer, his dad's place of work....

http://www.kswo.com/Global/story.asp?S=9859463

sigh - ya - being unemployed is fucking boring. so I'm spending my afternoons ruining other peoples' lives. I've also gotten a girl kicked out of her sorority and just yesterday we were fucking around with born again christians from some singles dating site. but little girls who post their tits up are the awesomest targets.

meh. its a hobby.

Let me repeat: GG not understanding the difference between that case and this one.

Also, please look up the definition of reverse engineering because it doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.

[fuerve]

Also, please look up the definition of reverse engineering because it doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.

Maybe he meant social engineering?

[Nukegrrrl]

Slapping the children with felonies to protect the children is lame. If any action against the kids is called for it should be corrective and coming from the parents, schools, or local govt.; definitely not a felony charge from the state or federal govt. that is just punitive and will ruin the kids' lives forever.

[RacergirlX]

haha dude no - a couple hundred fools from "ebaumsworld" took screenshots of the pictures, screenshots of the exif data, where the lat/long showed up on google maps, and links to YMCA staff - and we sent it in to the sex crimes unit. oh and I guess some folks faxed it in to the girl's dad's main fax line as well. haha that was awesome...

protip kids: - if you're going to send sexy pics of a teeny bopper to your friend, make sure to send a screenshot of a screenshot. get behind a proxy. or better yet, you know, just don't fucking do it.

*******
not the first time I've participated in shit like that. just last week we sent a kid named Kenny Glenn to juvey for posting a youtube of him beating the shit out of his cat in the shower. reverse engineering and basic googling and public record lookups - we found his myspace, read comments from him and his friends from there, figured out his last name, from there we figured out his address, from there we figured out his parents name, his school, his dad's employer, his dad's place of work....

http://www.kswo.com/Global/story.asp?S=9859463

sigh - ya - being unemployed is fucking boring. so I'm spending my afternoons ruining other peoples' lives. I've also gotten a girl kicked out of her sorority and just yesterday we were fucking around with born again christians from some singles dating site. but little girls who post their tits up are the awesomest targets.

meh. its a hobby.

Ebaums is for queers and humpback whales. The Dustyce Campaign was /b/. :rolleyes:


Felonies for "little girls who post their tits" are ridiculous; the humiliation when the general public finds out is enough.

[Nukegrrrl]

Felonies for "little girls who post their tits" are ridiculous; the humiliation when the general public finds out is enough.Maybe a good punishment/deterrent would be for the schools and parents to tell their kids, "you know that creepy uncle of yours? Well, he has the Internet too."

[burnt]

please go back and review.

I have *NEVER* - *EVER* - advocated jail time or "adult-like" punishments for children committing adult-level crimes. its in this fucking thread fer chrissakes.

I advocate counseling, so that bad habits that children find themselves engaging in... don't actually *become* adult-level-felonies.

racergirlx - quit breaking rules 1 and 2. now. please. before this board finds itself run on. everything bad that happens on the internet, is ebaumsworld's fault. wtf is this " /b/ " you speak of ??

[burnt]

Maybe he meant social engineering?

I meant "sociological reverse engineering" - as in, the poster named "burnt" registered with the name "fred reese" ... so..... who is Fred Reese, and where does he live.

[RacergirlX]

please go back and review.

I have *NEVER* - *EVER* - advocated jail time or "adult-like" punishments for children committing adult-level crimes. its in this fucking thread fer chrissakes.

I advocate counseling, so that bad habits that children find themselves engaging in... don't actually *become* adult-level-felonies.

racergirlx - quit breaking rules 1 and 2. now. please. before this board finds itself run on. everything bad that happens on the internet, is ebaumsworld's fault. wtf is this " /b/ " you speak of ??

How do the bad habits become adult felonies? If they get in the habit of sending/receiving nakie pix from their peers, that's not a crime at the adult level.

Also: Rules are for tripfags.

[burnt]

lol - fuck it. I think pedobear and cp is hilarious but I think participants are wack and its-ok-to-hurt-em-worthy. I prefer my pics of tweenage girls fairly well clothed on the internet. apparently the rest of the internet feels the exact opposite - once you really start scrutinizing the results. lol..

boo to felony convictions for little kids. yay for taking pics of little 15 year old kids out of the big ugly cloud of internet data so freaks hopefully never fap to them and ruin their karma. yay to ruining grownups who participate and/or fap, and yay to embarrassing tweenagers early in their lives, so they never do that shit again because people who profit off of their placement on the ol' fap-scale are wack.

and, I'm finished arguing the rest of my feelings on this topic.

[RacergirlX]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29546030/

Her teen committed suicide over ‘sexting’
Cynthia Logan’s daughter was taunted about photo she sent to boyfriend

The image was blurred and the voice distorted, but the words spoken by a young Ohio woman are haunting. She had sent nude pictures of herself to a boyfriend. When they broke up, he sent them to other high school girls. The girls were harassing her, calling her a slut and a whore. She was miserable and depressed, afraid even to go to school.

And now Jesse Logan was going on a Cincinnati television station to tell her story. Her purpose was simple: “I just want to make sure no one else will have to go through this again.”

The interview was in May 2008. Two months later, Jessica Logan hanged herself in her bedroom. She was 18.

Also of interest: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/technology/internet/14cyberweb.html?scp=93&sq=&st=nyt

Report Calls Online Threats to Children Overblown

The Internet may not be such a dangerous place for children after all.

A task force created by 49 state attorneys general to look into the problem of sexual solicitation of children online has concluded that there really is not a significant problem.

The findings ran counter to popular perceptions of online dangers as reinforced by depictions in the news media like NBC’s “To Catch a Predator” series. One attorney general was quick to criticize the group’s report.

The panel, the Internet Safety Technical Task Force, was charged with examining the extent of the threats children face on social networks like MySpace and Facebook, amid widespread fears that adults were using these popular Web sites to deceive and prey on children.

But the report concluded that the problem of bullying among children, both online and offline, poses a far more serious challenge than the sexual solicitation of minors by adults.

[HexRei]

I meant "sociological reverse engineering" - as in, the poster named "burnt" registered with the name "fred reese" ... so..... who is Fred Reese, and where does he live.

that's not reverse engineering except in an extremely vague and inaccurate metaphorical sense. That's just investigative research... or stalking, depending on the circumstances ;)

[burnt]

someone posted screencaps on ebaums earlier today, this little tart got on stickam and someone convinced her they had nudes so they made her pose nude with a shoe on her head or else they threatened to post the other nudes, so the girl got nude and cried then the dude posted the nudes of her crying with a shoe on her head and I fucking came buckets.

so I take it all back. I'm all about 15 year olds sexting each other now. FLOOD TEH NETWORKS!!1

pic somewhat related because its Jeff Goldblum cumming buckets.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p300/djburnt/goldblum.jpg

[tr0llaccount]

someone posted screencaps on ebaums earlier today, this little tart got on stickam and someone convinced her they had nudes so they made her pose nude with a shoe on her head or else they threatened to post the other nudes, so the girl got nude and cried then the dude posted the nudes of her crying with a shoe on her head and I fucking came buckets.

you can't tell that story and not post the pics (unless she's underage)

[burnt]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29546030/

chick sends bf nudes.
chick and bf break up.
bf sends his homies teh nudes.
epic lulz.
chick hangs herself.

***
:edit: - from the article:
"The results revealed that 39 percent of teens are sending or posting sexually suggestive messages, and 48 percent reported receiving such messages."

aahahaha, ladies, the statistics validate the assertion that everybody is forwarding your shit.

[RacergirlX]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29546030/

chick sends bf nudes.
chick and bf break up.
bf sends his homies teh nudes.
epic lulz.
chick hangs herself.

***
:edit: - from the article:
"The results revealed that 39 percent of teens are sending or posting sexually suggestive messages, and 48 percent reported receiving such messages."

aahahaha, ladies, the statistics validate the assertion that everybody is forwarding your shit.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29546030/


Read this thread much?

[HexRei]

but definitely they need to be reviewed by a psychiatrist to determine possible deviant behavior, and if deviant behavior exists, they need to be rehabilitated in some kind of psychiatric institution until they're "better".
Are you fucking serious? "deviant behavior?" Fuckin please, you need to be reviewed by a psychiatrist if you think showing privates as a kid is a deviant behavior that requires rehabilitation. i dont even know how to respond except to say you are naive.

Now please unleash your inevitable ten thousand word, meaningless reply.

[Andromeda.]

Some people say even fully clothed lewd photos on myspace should be illegal.

ack. those people scare me!

for anyone under 18, sure, because of the whole "pissed off parents" / pedobear thing and whatnot, but for consenting adults....just throw the album on "friends only" and don't let minors on your page, simple :rolleyes: fucking nazis.



I am however appalled by the current "solution" of the state because it does more harm than good and I just don't understand how some people on this board can sit there and think that it's for the "better good" of society if we ruin these kids lives over a stupid victimless crime. Like I said before, "It's a photo, it's not "dangerous" it's not a fucking bomb, get a grip, life will go on.

WOOOOOO!

*claps*

[RacergirlX]

Are you fucking serious? "deviant behavior?" Fuckin please, you need to be reviewed by a psychiatrist if you think showing privates as a kid is a deviant behavior that requires rehabilitation. i dont even know how to respond except to say you are naive.



For real. It's experimentation, and kids do it, whether it be playing doctor or texting pix.

[Andromeda.]

i mean, though, to be fair and all, if a teenager is always off dropping trou and shaking his shit at screaming / running-away girls, that's pretty deviant :)

but a little "show me yours / i'll show mine" is sometihng i'm pretty sure everyone -- except fucking crazy repressed religious -- goes through during adolescence, if not earlier.