Airport security's next insult

[Headphones Dude]

$11,000 if you refuse to be body searched, and not only that, but possible arrest! I haven't had any place to fly in ages, but it honestly sucks for anybody who does. It almost makes you feel like the terrorists have won, and now we won't have all the freedoms we took for granted as the years go on. Bah.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/state/11-000-fine-arrest-possible-for-some-who-1059926.html?cxntlid=cmg_cntnt_rss

[MaRbLe]

Im about to fly back from Florida, airports are a pain in the ass.

My Mom flew over to the IAPA convention for her work and she was pulled from the line then body scanned and patted down. She's in her early 60's and if you have ever seen her its more then obvious she is not a security risk.
They are wasting time and resources on stupid ass shit to be sure.....

[BobbyRitalin]

where's my god damned hovercar already

[Headphones Dude]

The F-16's would shoot you down for sure Bobby, because if you could fly around in a hovercar, so could Al-Quida. Come to think of it, forget about us ever having flying cars period! We'd never be able to stop the flood of terrorists in/out once they attempt to release them on the market.

[burnt]

Kat just asked a good question.

so, this is a law, right??
a fine, based on a law.

who the fuck ... passed this law?
what member of congress?
based on what vote?

I hope to god some congressman reminds these cunts about how civics works

[BobbyRitalin]

homeland security doesn't need votes.


they do what they want.


fuck your couch.

[HexRei]

The F-16's would shoot you down for sure Bobby, because if you could fly around in a hovercar, so could Al-Quida. Come to think of it, forget about us ever having flying cars period! We'd never be able to stop the flood of terrorists in/out once they attempt to release them on the market.

flying cars are already approved for use in the US. they just aren't on the market yet.

[BobbyRitalin]

well i want one, them shitz iz ill dawg pewp.


anyway, most people complaining about these security measures don't fly anyway.

[St. Earl]

flying cars are already approved for use in the US. they just aren't on the market yet.

a flying pinto would be a good car for a terrorist.
http://www.transeum.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ave-mizar.jpg

http://pandora.cii.wwu.edu/showcase2004/images-04/jn_pinto.gif

[DJ Nikon]

that

is fucking


stupid







wow, go terrorism?
i wonder if i can just take off ALL my clothes THEEEN walk through the scanner and do the pat down :)
maybe do that BEFORE i even hit the check point areas....you know, to ensure the safety of everyone else in the airport :rolleyes:

then that'd be uber thorough and i wouldnt be under suspicions right?

[burnt]

well i want one, them shitz iz ill dawg pewp.


anyway, most people complaining about these security measures don't fly anyway.

which is one of my primary complaints.

I worked my fucking ass off last week.
I put in a lot of hours.
I busted my hump refactoring 6 stored procedures for increased web performance.
I developed a major database redesign then I gave a detailed presentation on the functionalities of the new database.

I trained an intern on how to take advantage of Excel's advanced functions, and I grew oversaw a 5% growth in the overall number of records.

I busted my ass this week.
I didn't fly ANYWHERE. you're right.

I worked. no vacations for this workaholic.
no fun flights to Tahiti, no savvy marketing/sales bullshit.

BUT!
you know what I *DID* do?

I made sure that everybody who DID take a flight this weekend ... was exposed to untested levels of radiation by non-medical-professionals, and/or got rubber-gloved-fingers shoved up their asses.

*MY* work this week ... paid for Delta, Alaska, and United's lack of security.

every West Virginian coal worker, who works his ass off and never earns the fun/privilege of air travel .. every teacher .. every burger flipper, every mechanic, every in-home caregiver ..

we all give a bunch of money every week in our taxes, to the TSA, so they can secure a PRIVATE businesses' product, that a very small percentage of Americans get to enjoy.

I'm paying for fingers to go up 15 year old boys' bungholes, and unborn fetuses to get exposed to radiation ... and I don't get to have a say in it, nor do I get to participate in it.

I pay taxes for roads, and I drive on the roads.
I pay taxes for education, and I have a kid who goes to public school.
I pay for welfare, and I enjoy the luxury of not having to deal with whiny broke single moms.

it infuriates me, that we have a gigantic government agency tasked with the job of securing a private businesses' product. particularly when that business caters to such a small section of society, and when we all know that the product has such a low potential for catastrophe.

half a million people die from drunk-driving related accidents every year.
2000 or so people die from airline crashes every year, with 0-100 of them from airline-related terrorist attack.
why don't we have cops frisking every driver every day at rush hour?
that's an infinitely larger threat.

I'll tell you why. because everybody knows that irrational, unreasonable, unjust, and just plain stupid. well Bobby, so is your average TSA employee. so are these new laws and regulations.

we could be spending these billions of dollars much more wisely.

[BobbyRitalin]

but they haz power!


i don't agree with it either, just nwtekno has been rather slow today

[DJ Nikon]

i just dont get it
why

makes no sense
thats like Disney Land offering those faster ride line VIP tickets



derp, approx 40-60% of people will go for that as its "the faster option" and sure it could be a bit faster than a normal line, but why pay more for basicly the same thing?

the radiation bit bothers me, but what can ya do about it
if i plan to fly, FUCK IT...they'll have to strip me and get a gooooood feel.... cause ill make sure they're as uncomfortable about the whole process as I am

course dont be a dick, dont cause flags - just act normal, but whats wrong with asking if they haa-AAAAVE TO oye...*giggle*.... have to go that high or deep?
they prolly love their job as much as id like them to get me in a room and strip me down
(realistically, neither of us wanna go there)

[HexRei]

makes no sense
thats like Disney Land offering those faster ride line VIP tickets



derp, approx 40-60% of people will go for that as its "the faster option" and sure it could be a bit faster than a normal line, but why pay more for basicly the same thing?

i dont really get how your analogy related to the op, but i can explain why people pay to skip lines: because time is valuable. and if you are a very wealthy person, you probably make a lot of money in a given hour of whatever you do. if that amount is more than an hour of waiting in lines all day, why wouldn't you just pay to not spend that time? you can make it up later at work with the time you saved. some people might even say their time is a lot more valuable than their wage and would pay to skip even if they were losing money in the long run.

[DJ Nikon]

sorry, that was obtuse



"here, itll help save you time :D"

"...but really, it'll be about the same ordeal; jus sayin."

the lesser of two evils I suppose
get patted down and hold up everyone else OR high dose of radiation and maybe get through quicker
either way you're still gunna have to "wait in line for awhile" no matter how much you pay (or whichever method you choose)

[Headphones Dude]

I'd find it funny if somebody took a dump and didn't wipe ON PURPOSE, just so a security searcher can get a finger of turd when they strip searched this individual. Hasn't happened yet, but I can see it coming.

[Headphones Dude]

flying cars are already approved for use in the US. they just aren't on the market yet.


But that's just it. It would be too risky to even release flying cars on the market. Unless you have a tight protocol on how somebody can obtain one, get the proper training on it, and not only that, but be on some watchlist so that if some terrorist did decide to fly his flying car into a 9/11ish bomb (Flying the car right into a government building with a ton of explosives in it), they'd be on to their plan before they ever were a flight risk....I just see it as a luxury we assumed we could copy The Jetsons on, but now will never really be a risk our government can allow.

Not only that, but some morons can't even drive a regular vehicle, so why would you want them to fly in the air and crash into your house/condo/apartment?

[HexRei]

But that's just it. It would be too risky to even release flying cars on the market. Unless you have a tight protocol on how somebody can obtain one, get the proper training on it, and not only that, but be on some watchlist so that if some terrorist did decide to fly his flying car into a 9/11ish bomb (Flying the car right into a government building with a ton of explosives in it), they'd be on to their plan before they ever were a flight risk....I just see it as a luxury we assumed we could copy The Jetsons on, but now will never really be a risk our government can allow.

Not only that, but some morons can't even drive a regular vehicle, so why would you want them to fly in the air and crash into your house/condo/apartment?

Tell that to Terrafugia, they are expected to be delivering orders in 2011.

http://www.terrafugia.com/

Most "morons" won't be able to afford one though, and I of course you'll need a pilot's license to legally fly it. The government (in the form of the FAA) has already approved it.

[BobbyRitalin]

one dude had his urine bag empty onto his body and a lady had to show her fake parts

busy day at the airports for humiliation

[B_tech]

so, this is a law, right??
a fine, based on a law.

who the fuck ... passed this law?
what member of congress?
based on what vote?

I hope to god some congressman reminds these cunts about how civics works
It's NOT a law. It's a TSA procedural change, mandated by the Dept of Homeland Security. The procedural changes are allowed under the US Code, Title 49, Section 44901, which grants the Secretary of the Dept of Transportation authority to regulate all air traffic (including screening & security); the Aviation and Transportation Security Act further grants that right specifically to the TSA, which I believe DHS moved under them after the act was enacted in 2001 after 9/11.

[burnt]

are you making that up, or is that for real?

lol man I hope you're for serious.
there are no laws that say "I have a colostomy bag, be warned feddy Jeff, you're about to stick your finger into a pile of pissy flavored shit in a rubber bag.."

and its not like TSA screeners are going to be switched on enough to know it.
after all, your average TSA screener is a fucking high school dropout.

WHICH IS ANOTHEr whole fuckin annoying ball of twine that bears bringing up!!

think about it people!

who's securing your airline flights??

spazzmunkee.
braaap.
DJ candyflip

yea thanks for keeping us safe by being very aware of sanity-based observations, Dan the Dropout.

[DJ Nikon]

unrelated side note this thread made me laugh about...

a lot of 30-somes in Corp. America like to blame 9/11 for the most retarded things (from my experiences)
example? my neighbor is mid to upper 30's white middle class...
he says taxes, laws, gun control, police brutality, sound permits for shows, legal age curfews, etc etc etc are ALL to blame on 9/11

"..ehhh thats cause of terrorism and 9/11...fuckin terrorists..."

yet he's the one voting people like Bush into office and saying he stands for America and its civil liberties + freedom


lol

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:



anyways sorry, carry on....

[burnt]

vote for more republican because we need smaller government like the patriot act and also the tens of thousands of dropout $20/hour flunkies who gotta stick a finger up your daughter's butt.

nb4 da move.
I'm gonna lol if this gets moved. its got nothing to do with "politics".

its just a shitty government program, thats all.

[B_tech]

are you making that up, or is that for real?

lol man I hope you're for serious.
there are no laws that say "I have a colostomy bag, be warned feddy Jeff, you're about to stick your finger into a pile of pissy flavored shit in a rubber bag.."

and its not like TSA screeners are going to be switched on enough to know it.
after all, your average TSA screener is a fucking high school dropout.

Yea man, a quick Google search will pull up those laws and you can verify if you like.:
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/49/VII/A/III/449/I/44901
&
http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/Aviation_and_Transportation_Security_Act_ATSA_Publ ic_Law_107_1771.pdf

The bold part is EXACTLY what I've been saying about the recent screening changes and groping claims from travelers. I highly doubt the TSA is going to make a procedure that tells agents to grab balls and rub vaginas, so we can likely presume that it's misinterpretation from the agents. I checked the job requirements to be a TSA agent; it's no more than to work @ any retail store and I've met my share of dumbshit retail workers. Food for thought.

[burnt]

Yea man, a quick Google search will pull up those laws and you can verify if you like.:
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/49/VII/A/III/449/I/44901
&
http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/Aviation_and_Transportation_Security_Act_ATSA_Publ ic_Law_107_1771.pdf

The bold part is EXACTLY what I've been saying about the recent screening changes and groping claims from travelers. I highly doubt the TSA is going to make a procedure that tells agents to grab balls and rub vaginas, so we can likely presume that it's misinterpretation from the agents. I checked the job requirements to be a TSA agent; it's no more than to work @ any retail store and I've met my share of dumbshit retail workers. Food for thought.

bro, not to be a dick, but the second link is from the 107th congress.
from 2001.

the "advanced pat down" procedure is from like, fuckin last Thursday or something.

aka, the 111th congress. from the year 2010.

or, alternatively, there is no legal jurisdiction giving TSA screeners the authority to conduct an open-palm search.

but you're deluded if you don't think open palm searches are taking place, right now.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/29/article-1324924-0531BC3F0000044D-127_233x343.jpg

[burnt]

my new avatar is a picture of airport security frisking a 5 year old toddler.

HEY LOOK ITS QUICKSTER OR BOBBY RITALIN'S KID! :D

[BobbyRitalin]

my daughter better not be at an airport without me lol

[burnt]

first?
they came for box cutters.
and I didn't say anything because I'm a slacker so I don't cut boxes for a living so I don't need box cutters.

then they came for tweezers and toe nail clippers and I didn't say anything because I got a unibrow and I chew my fingernails and my toenails just fall off.

then they came for soap and shampoo but I fly on the weekends or days off so I don't really shower so I didn't need soap or shampoo.

then they came for the breastmilk and I'm a dude, dude.

now they're coming for your assholes and balls and I can't say anything because they got me by the balls. but at least my balls stink. so that's kinda punk. not washing my ass and balls and going to airport security.

[BobbyRitalin]

farting at tsa's pwns

[burnt]

dude, seriously.

its time for a new meme.

"don't shower before you fly"

help me make this a meme, Bobby.
lets make those gloves stinky.
lets make TSA hate their jobs.
fuck TSA

[NeOmega]

check it out, a strip search of a ten year old boy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skkCpnCm7iM

[quickster]

sounds like you could make some fun out of this by wearing a strap-on to the airport.

[burnt]

I'm sayin dude.
skip a shower and pop a viagra.
have fun with this, right?

[B_tech]

bro, not to be a dick, but the second link is from the 107th congress.
from 2001.

the "advanced pat down" procedure is from like, fuckin last Thursday or something.

aka, the 111th congress. from the year 2010.
riiiiiiiiiiight. K, read this real close. Both of those laws give the TSA authority to screen airports, cargo and passengers AND gives them the authority to do so as they see fit.

The laws passed in 2001 created the TSA and by the previous law on the books, the TSA was granted authority to oversee all aspects of screening. The US Code doesn't need to be altered to say "the TSA can strip search, xray and pat down passengers", it only needs to say that they are RESPONSIBLE for creating procedures, guidelines and standards.

Newsflash, I was 'open palm' searched many MANY times before 2010; in 2001-2004, when I was traveling all the time for DJing, I was searched almost every time I flew. 'Random' they called if, but a thorough frisk nonetheless. It's not anything new.

[quickster]

I'm sayin dude.
skip a shower and pop a viagra.
have fun with this, right?

lol oh man, im lolling just thinking about it. you could be biting your upper lip while they do their search, breathing deep with a soft moan.

[Izlude]

Next time I fly I'm just going to say I don't want them to see my tiny flaccid penis. Or to ask for a couple moments to get my wang up to full size glory.

[bgrade]

They need fluffers in those long lines.

[St. Earl]

gerbils.
.....

[BobbyRitalin]

dude, seriously.

its time for a new meme.

"don't shower before you fly"

help me make this a meme, Bobby.
lets make those gloves stinky.
lets make TSA hate their jobs.
fuck TSA

http://images0.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/3799225/I-shit-my-pants-for-you-Smell-my-shit-TSA.jpg?imageSize=Large&generatorName=Victory-Baby


here you go!

[BobbyRitalin]

here's another one that i just made

http://images0.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/3799265/Now-you-Have-Scabies.jpg?imageSize=Large&generatorName=Joseph-Ducreux

[HexRei]

HAH! I like.

[djsteel]

NEWSFLASH: TSA IS NOT THE BAD GUY!

In other news:
Words you will never hear President Obama say: "I DO NOT CONDONE THE ACTIONS OF THE TSA AGAINST AMERICAN CITIZENS."

[Nukegrrrl]

that

is fucking


stupid







wow, go terrorism?
i wonder if i can just take off ALL my clothes THEEEN walk through the scanner and do the pat down :)
maybe do that BEFORE i even hit the check point areas....you know, to ensure the safety of everyone else in the airport :rolleyes:

then that'd be uber thorough and i wouldnt be under suspicions right?From my own experiences, they get really perturbed when you show up to the airport barefoot and act like nothing's wrong, even though you have to take your fucking shoes off anyways then put them through the x-ray scanner.

I can't even imagine what they'd do if you showed up buck nekkid.

[seattle science]

It really isn't the patting down that bothers me. I get patted down to go into some clubs or sports arenas. It's the idiocy of the whole thing, however, that bothers me. The body scanners and pat downs don't protect us from anything, they just exemplify how we as a people have devolved into non-thinking robots with zero common sense.

[seattle science]

Also, if you can pull it off, sport an epic woody when being patted down.

[St. Earl]

flying cars are already approved for use in the US. they just aren't on the market yet.


i hear you can buy one of these as of tomorrow-
http://www.martinjetpack.com/

http://www.harveststorm.com/images/2009/may/martin_jetpack.jpg

[djsteel]

By sharing those photos, you have just been added to a terrorist watchlist.

[bgrade]

If I can just get on that no fly list, I could get out of going to my in-laws for Thanksgiving. As it is, I am using my scary power of will to manifest some snow and ice.

[burnt]

next on the list, TSA employees cop a feel before you get on TriMet

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-07-16-tsa16_ST_N.htm

[DJ Nikon]

From my own experiences, they get really perturbed when you show up to the airport barefoot and act like nothing's wrong, even though you have to take your fucking shoes off anyways then put them through the x-ray scanner.

I can't even imagine what they'd do if you showed up buck nekkid.

or how about they're all
Hey YOU....random search...over here


since you KNOW whats about to happen
FUCK IT
fuck them, fuck cameras, fuck security


just pull off your shirt and drop your pants and boxers

BAM

NOW WHAT
this is what you wanted...no?

so get on it and do your job

*hands on waist smiling*

go on....search away.....check my pockets while you're at it.....






(what can they do? arrest you for assisting in their job? lewd exposure sure realistically but if they want u to take off your shirt, FUCK IT, take it all off right then n there...."strip search", isnt it called? and they wanna do it right there IN LINE...soooooo there ya go! you're just doing what they are telling you to do, just with less hassle. Here see its all gone/off/open, do your search...now let me through. KPLSTHX)

[Nukegrrrl]

or how about they're all
Hey YOU....random search...over hereThey were just really grossed out, like "uhhh... ma'am, you can put your socks and shoes on now, you won't have to walk through security for a while yet" and I was like "I didn't even bring any shoes, cuz I knew I'd have to take them off anyways, so it's cool," then I turned around and started chatting with the folks in line who were next to me.

I actually had flip flops packed in my bag for when I got to my destination, but whatever. TSA can go fuck itself.

[Cethe]

what do they think of electronic cigarettes?

[HexRei]

what do they think of electronic cigarettes?

BOMB COMPONENTS!!!!!!!!!!

[B_tech]

It really isn't the patting down that bothers me. I get patted down to go into some clubs or sports arenas. It's the idiocy of the whole thing, however, that bothers me. The body scanners and pat downs don't protect us from anything, they just exemplify how we as a people have devolved into non-thinking robots with zero common sense.
Agreed. It's VERY difficult to prove something prevented something else (negative result), so we really have no way of knowing if all this paranoid bullshit helps. Frankly, I think it's just a corporate-interest move, which the new administration has to support, because it's really unwise to downplay 'security' "in this post 9/11 world" (fuck, I hate that phrase).

I read somewhere that the scanners are from a company that some top dog in DHS... the more we delve down this path, the more tinfoil I get on my head that Cheney and his brohams were all behind 9/11. The more 'security' we get, the more it seems to be tied to people in the old administration. No me gusta.

[DJ Nikon]

BOMB COMPONENTS!!!!!!!!!!

see, this is another big reason why im sketchy about flying...

jimni cricket had her MP3 CD Player fucked with cause its electronics and "could contain explosives" or some stupid shit like that

dude, its obviously a cd player spinning a cd




but since everyone has lots of electronic gadgets, im afraid id get through alllll the bullshit of being patted down etc etc just to have them try to take my cell phone away, or diff MP3 player, or camera, or laptop, or count it..anything random someone could have with them while traveling

so, they wanna confiscate it JUST BEFORE im getting on my trip?

hell
no

so what, you fight about it? well u cant get it back, thats raising suspicion of terrorism, eh?
so you dont fly cause you will not leave your store purchased items in the hands of TSA
isnt that another red flag?

so its like, lose/lose
if they wanna pick on you and take things, well go team america cause "we" voted in homeland security and everything is a security risk now apparently

[equip]

Inventor creates TSA-proof underwear to shield private parts from x-ray machines, prying eyes (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/11/22/2010-11-22_inventor_creates_tsaproof_underwear_to_shield_p rivate_parts_from_xray_machines_p.html?r=news/national)


"The gear is currently for sale online at some ominously cryptic prices.
A pair of fig-leaf themed tighty-whiteys is available for a "special" offer of $19.84, while a women's bra insert costs $9.11 and women's briefs costs $17.76."





(http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/11/22/2010-11-22_inventor_creates_tsaproof_underwear_to_shield_p rivate_parts_from_xray_machines_p.html#ixzz163kUDJ Qp)

[NeOmega]

I can't even imagine what they'd do if you showed up buck nekkid.

this:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/21/gun-crusader-strips-down-shorts-hauled-out-san-die/

[burnt]

check it out, a strip search of a ten year old boy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skkCpnCm7iM

TSA officer busted for fondling little teenage girl while off duty, and begging her to be his sex slave.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2010-06-15/news/os-orlando-tsa-officer-arrested-sex-t20100615_1_
charles-henry-bennett-sex-slave-sex-offender-probation

***
OUR TSA OFFICERS MIGHT ENJOY THE LUXURIES OF HAVING A BUREAUCRATIC GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES' UNION JUST LIKE COPS AND CASEWORKERS GET TO HAVE BUT WE CAREFULLY SCREEN EVERY ONE OF THOSE GED HAVIN' DROPOUTS BEFORE HIRING THEM!! :p

[burnt]

TSA promised that none of the xray images can be saved, and that the public will never see them.

here are 100 of those non-public images.
http://gizmodo.com/5690749/these-are-the-first-100-leaked-body-scans

apparently there are about 34,900 more of these.

[Hollywood]

yet he's the one voting people like Bush into office and saying he stands for America and its civil liberties + freedom


lol

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:



anyways sorry, carry on....

and what has the current administration done to limit the power of the tsa or get rid of the tsa. I mean it's not like he's chomping at the bit to cut back ANY anti-terror prorams like the tsa...

Sec of state Clinton says on "Face the Nation" that she wouldn't want to get patted down herself. then asked "Who would?"

yet nothing is done....

then

Obama says on the topic while he was in Portugal "I understand people's frustration"

yet nothing is done....

one person says
"Driving is much more dangerous than flying, as you are far more likely to be killed in an automobile accident mile-for-mile than you are in an airplane," Steven Horwitz, a professor of economics at St. Lawrence University, told The Hill. "The result will be that the new TSA procedures will kill more Americans on the highway."

which is a little much but....it's kind of true

as much as everyone is in an uproar about the touching....the body scanners or just as bad....but there is a new cure for that..
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/americas/underwear-invention-protects-privacy-during-airport-scans/article1808049/

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01768/knickers_1768233c.jpg


if they wanna pick on you and take things, well go team america cause "we" voted in homeland security and everything is a security risk now apparently

no we didn't.....

[Hollywood]

http://i.imgur.com/mSddk.jpg

[Hollywood]

http://min.us/iu4yM.jpeg

[Hollywood]

oh and there's this too

OSI Systems Chief Executive Officer was a guest on president obamas trip to india. OSI is the company that makes the body scanners....

[B_tech]

TSA promised that none of the xray images can be saved, and that the public will never see them.

here are 100 of those non-public images.
http://gizmodo.com/5690749/these-are-the-first-100-leaked-body-scans

apparently there are about 34,900 more of these.
K, that was a courthouse in FL, NOT A TSA SCANNER.

Did it occur to you that they may have disabled the capability to save images on the scanners in the airport, but that feature was NOT turned off @ the courthouse?

Naw.... where's the sensationalism in that?

[Nukegrrrl]

and what has the current administration done to limit the power of the tsa or get rid of the tsa.That's a good question that should be asked by each of us to these folks/our Representatives/"the current administration:"

(These are Senators and Representatives for Western Wurshington residents)

Senator Murray
915 2nd Ave Ste 2988
Seattle, WA 98174

Senator Cantwell
915 Second Ave Ste 3206
Seattle, WA 98174

1st - Inslee
18560 1st Ave NE Ste E-800
Shoreline, WA 98155

2nd - Larsen
2930 Wetmore Ave Ste 9F
Everett, WA 98201

6th - Dicks
1019 Pacific Ave Ste 806
Tacoma, WA 98402

7th - McDermott
1809 7th Ave Ste 1212
Seattle, WA 98101

8th - Reichert
2737 78th Ave SE
Mercer Island, WA 98040

9th - Smith
2209 Pacific Ave Ste B
Tacoma, WA 98402

Find your Representative at United States House of Representatives' website. (http://www.house.gov/)

[Cethe]

K, that was a courthouse in FL, NOT A TSA SCANNER.

Did it occur to you that they may have disabled the capability to save images on the scanners in the airport, but that feature was NOT turned off @ the courthouse?

Naw.... where's the sensationalism in that?

why is that on for courthouses?
seems to me the same violation of privacy & should not be "activated" shit shouldn't even be built into the system FFS

[djsteel]

Adam from Mythbusters accidently proves how worthless TSA security really is....
http://gizmodo.com/5697222/adam-savage-mythbusting-airport-security-wtf-tsa

[Mortal Grey]

A few years ago, TSA held me up forever because of my record crate.

I got home and realized I had accidentally carried on a knife with a 4" blade in my backpack.

I guess vinyl records seem more threatening than a deadly weapon to TSA agents running x-ray machines.

[B_tech]

why is that on for courthouses?
seems to me the same violation of privacy & should not be "activated" shit shouldn't even be built into the system FFS
Who knows... maybe it was on accident, maybe it was a secret intelligence operation the state or county was doing.

The ONLY reason I could see a 'save' or 'print' feature being a benefit would be if you were going to bring a person to trial for 'Violence at international airports'; the image could be used to show the defendant had a weapon. It could be beneficial as a supplemental piece of evidence.
HOWEVER... given this scanning and 'security' hasn't found anything to try someone for that crime, I don't see the need to add these scanners. All the attacks @ airports in recent years were boxes/bombs, NOT weapons and attackers.

[B_tech]

I guess vinyl records seem more threatening than a deadly weapon to TSA agents running x-ray machines.
When I was traveling a lot DJing, I would get pulled aside from swabbing and extra screening when I brought a bag of vinyl with me on the plane. I either got "Wow, people still use records?" or "Sir, what are these and why do you have them?"

It was baffling.

[NeOmega]

Next insult:

TSA patdowns and scanners are for the peasants, not for our wonderful lords and masters:
TSA: Some gov't officials to skip airport security (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_airport_security_vips)

Aviation security officials would not name those who can skip the controversial screening, but other officials said those VIPs range from top officials like Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and FBI Director Robert Mueller to congressional leaders like incoming House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, who avoided security before a recent flight from Washington's Reagan National Airport.

[spazmunkee]

apparently these things dont work.

http://www.vancouversun.com/travel/Full+body+scanners+waste+money+Israeli+expert+says/2941610/story.html

[Cethe]

i noticed this while (not) watching the video steel posted...(videos blocked but gizmodo in general is not)

http://gizmodo.com/5696160/why-the-tsa-could-lead-us-to-public-rebellion-or-a-terrorist-attack

[B_tech]

I'm totally gonna throw up a ballgazer when I fly to Seattle next Sat. They have scanners @ Austin and in Seattle, so ima ballgaze on the way in AND out. ;)

[Hollywood]

tsa is suppose to have speacial rules for women with bewb milk

this is them ignoring their own rules

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XhnZlmLGK8

[More Wise]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/woman-totally-sticks-it-to-tsa-workers-by-stripping-down-for-her-pat-down/


Im just going to say, mmmmm and grunt and shake a lil bit when they cup my nuts.

[burnt]

violating the 4th amendment wasn't cool enough guys.
lets desecrate the 1st amendment too! :D

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/30286

[HexRei]

I don't see an actual violation of the 1st amendment there, although it is fucked up.

[NeOmega]

I don't see an actual violation of the 1st amendment there, although it is fucked up.

fourth amendment

[HexRei]

fourth amendment

post before mine

[bgrade]

I just got back from vacation, and the sanctity of my anus was not violated, nor was I put through the naked xray machine. TSA was actually nicer than usual, I think because they have such bad PR right now. I heard some other dude saying he got frisked and they actually put their hands in his pockets, but I saw none of that on either direction of my flight. Opt out day was total fail too. Nothing happened. People just want to get where they are going, and no one wants to be the dick that helps create a 3 hour backup in the line and makes a bunch of people miss their flights.

Anyone on here actually experience any first hand trouble over this Turkey day travel time? I am not saying it did not happen to other folks, but my experience was surprisingly boring after getting all paranoid that the government wanted to strip search my toddler.

I have been frisked in the past for wearing loose pants and being scruffy lookin', but nothing like that this time. Lines were fast and it seemed like business as usual to me.

[burnt]

TSA was actually nicer than usual, I think because they have such bad PR right now.

hey, remember when Chevron had bad PR for Alaska, and they were actually safe for a few months?

remember during the HCR debates when insurers didn't deny as many claims?

remember when everybody leaned on BP and they started paying off Gulf residents because the spotlight was on them?

yea bud, glad to hear your trip was nice.
ALL trips should be nice.
ALL encounters with federal agents - when you're a respectful, law abiding citizen - should be nice.

if we have to lean on these pricks, make their jobs difficult, make their BOSSES jobs difficult .. well .. thats what being a public servant is all about, right? thats what cops, bureaucrats, feds .. thats what they ARE, right?

my heart just doesn't bleed for these pricks.
they're the ones who signed up for their shitty jobs gettin' hated on.
there's no law requiring them to keep their shitty junk-grabbin, titty-starin careers.

we're the people paying our hard earned tax dollars that directly fund every TSA agents' paycheck, and we're the people spending even more hard earned money buying airline tickets so we can travel freely across our great country.

these people OWE it to us, to be polite, respectful, and WELL-VERSED in every one of their procedures. because EVERY one of their procedures, is DIRECTLY driven, by federal law.

my heart just doesn't bleed for the TSA right about now. whether its Chertoff selling his shoddy x-ray machines to Napolitano, or some dipshit dropout taking a low paying but cushy gubmint handout McJob ... they made their bed, now they're lying in it.

[bgrade]

Not like I am trying to start a "save the TSA" fund or anything. Just reporting what happened, or did not happen to me. Not joining their fan club.

[B_tech]

these people OWE it to us, to be polite, respectful, and WELL-VERSED in every one of their procedures. because EVERY one of their procedures, is DIRECTLY driven, by federal law.

Me thinks you expect to much from these people. They're hourly, highschool educated and rarely have a college education (based on what they pay, it's not worth a college grad's time). Sure, their supervisors and manager should know the regulations inside and out, but these people are on the same level as the Starbucks barista or the McDonalds employee... I don't expect too much from them, other than to not waste my time or steal/break my shit.

[Hollywood]

^^ i think the amount of money is a fucking excuse dude...you do realize the national unemployment rate right? it's still over 9%....this includes people with college degrees....also, tsa provides beni's for its employess, vaction pay and other things that Mcdonalds doesn't do....I'm not sure about starbucks.

[Cethe]

i didn't fly, but i did ride 2 ferry's this weekend out to whidbey island...

no frisking, or even one bomb dog that i saw...

[Nukegrrrl]

My brother flew into Seattle from Phoenix for the weekend. He said that the xray machines looked like they were turned off or not in use, and TSA seemed to be making a priority of getting everyone through security as quickly as possible.

[Loki]

Clearly the TSA didn't do the screenings so that Opt-Out Day would appear to be a failure. You can't opt out if you aren't selected for screening.

[burnt]

thats kind of what I was wondering.

maybe we should threaten to make every day an opt out day.

[Loki]

I plan to opt out when I fly over the solstice holidays and every time I fly.. I would hope that others would do the same

[B_tech]

^^ i think the amount of money is a fucking excuse dude...you do realize the national unemployment rate right? it's still over 9%....this includes people with college degrees....also, tsa provides beni's for its employess, vaction pay and other things that Mcdonalds doesn't do....I'm not sure about starbucks.
Sure, but that doesn't negate that the average college grad isn't going to take a $12-$15/hr job with the TSA, unless they're about to lose their home or something. Do you fly often? Take it from me, a majority of the TSA agents I've come across are NOT college grads. Maybe their sups and managers are, but not the people doing the checking.

[bgrade]

I think a lot of poor college grads would take the 12$-$15 if the job itself did not suck. Being a TSA agent would suck.

[B_tech]

Being a TSA agent, employed by the govt wouldn't suck, because govt jobs offer nice pensions and such. Now, working as an agent for an approved contractor would probably suck because I doubt they have the perks.

[Hollywood]

http://www.urbanswirl.com/news/opinion/3094-man-ejaculates-during-tsa-pat-down.html

dude cums while getting pat down!

[Hollywood]

Sure, but that doesn't negate that the average college grad isn't going to take a $12-$15/hr job with the TSA, unless they're about to lose their home or something. Do you fly often? Take it from me, a majority of the TSA agents I've come across are NOT college grads. Maybe their sups and managers are, but not the people doing the checking.

dude i work at the airport and deal with tsa all the time....also, a college grad would be smart enough to realize maybe if i start at a company i could move up fast because,"I'm smarter then them..." Everyone has to start somewhere dude....and people are poor...jobs are jobs and moneys money...

[Cethe]

anyone see this yet?

http://www.deadseriousnews.com/?p=573

"man arrested for ejaculating during enhanced pat down"

aparently dude has piercing in his junk, set off metal detectors and got the frisk....and has a history of sexual dysfunction...
during the frisk he gets aroused and after some continued gropping, he spooges
TSA dude FREAKS and arrrests him


part of me wonders if it's true?
i don't konw "dead serious news"....googling now..."unverified report..." from current.com that only cites the dead serious link....hmmm

[burnt]

click on the "About Us" link for Dead Serious News.

still, pretty funny though.

[Cethe]

yeah...i noticed just before i came back to work...

[B_tech]

dude i work at the airport and deal with tsa all the time....also, a college grad would be smart enough to realize maybe if i start at a company i could move up fast because,"I'm smarter then them..." Everyone has to start somewhere dude....and people are poor...jobs are jobs and moneys money...
Fair enough, but that would, of course, depend on your desire to work in that industry. If I have a degree in biology, I don't know that I'd be chompin to climb the TSA ladder. But I get your point... it might be pretty easy to get ahead in the org with a degree.

[Cethe]

it might be pretty easy to get ahead in the org with a degree.

or two competent brain cells ;)

[B_tech]

HEEYYYYOOOOOOO!