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ViennaSt
01-17-2011, 06:55 AM
Well...not with dinosaurus but with this muthafucka


http://blog.devonanddorsetcottages.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/woolly-mammoth1.jpg

I hope they can pull it off. A huge HUGE accomplishment for humans.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gx1pKJwJuvL2CkaDEJjtKIMLmX0Q?docId=CNG.63a88 de80b1de58e46110f2810f9802b.8a1

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TOKYO — Japanese researchers will launch a project this year to resurrect the long-extinct mammoth by using cloning technology to bring the ancient pachyderm back to life in around five years time, a report said.
The researchers will try to revive the species by obtaining tissue this summer from the carcass of a mammoth preserved in a Russian research laboratory, the Yomiuri Shimbun reported.
"Preparations to realise this goal have been made," Akira Iritani, leader of the team and a professor emeritus of Kyoto University, told the mass-circulation daily.
Under the plan, the nuclei of mammoth cells will be inserted into an elephant's egg cells from which the nuclei have been removed to create an embryo containing mammoth genes, it said.
The embryo will then be inserted into an elephant's womb in the hope that the animal will eventually give birth to a baby mammoth. Researches hope to achieve their aim within five to six years, the Yomiuri said.
The team, which has invited a Russian mammoth researcher and two US elephant experts into the project, has already established a technique to extract DNA from frozen cells.
The researchers had once given up similar plans after nuclei in the cells of mammoth skin and muscle tissue were damaged by ice crystals and proved unusable.
However, another Japanese researcher, Teruhiko Wakayama of the Riken Centre for Developmental Biology, succeeded in cloning a mouse from the cells of another that had been kept in deep-freeze for 16 years.
Based on Wakayama's techniques, Iritani's team devised a method to extract the nuclei of mammoth eggs without damaging them.
"If a cloned embryo can be created, we need to discuss, before transplanting it into the womb, how to breed (the mammoth) and whether to display it to the public," Iritani said.
"After the mammoth is born, we will examine its ecology and genes to study why the species became extinct and other factors."
More than 80 percent of all mammoth finds have been dug up in the permafrost of the vast Sakha Republic in eastern Siberia. The most perfectly preserved remains of the Ice Age mammals still have hair and internal organs.

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though I don't really like these sensationalist "this could happen very soon!" science stories...cause well how many times have you read, "new therapy COULD cure this...new hope MAY let us have space cars..." Until I actually see the damn thing I don't really have much to emotion behind it. But this is one got the best of me. Now if they went the tourist route, I'm just sayin that it could help pay for more research down the line .... that wily jurrasic park havin insight

akyouser.oner
01-17-2011, 06:59 AM
They obviously learned nothing from that movie!

Just because we can doesn't mean we should.

ViennaSt
01-17-2011, 07:14 AM
It'll be okay, I think they have more badass electric fence technology nowadays. And tracking chips so it can't sneak up on you.

And the Japanese are doing it. So I can rest assured they won't be used for military purposes, at least for a while.

Kosmicdog
01-17-2011, 07:25 AM
AWESOME!!!!!!!!

St. Earl
01-17-2011, 07:38 AM
whew. i was worried for a sec.
but since it's the japanese, i'm sure everything will be fine.

http://www.fyms.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/godzilla001.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/doomsdaymonsters/anguirus2.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6Lvkrntm-58/TD9WqcLu3TI/AAAAAAAAAOA/yWt-f6z1KXE/s1600/mothra-769922.jpg

http://roberthood.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/ghidrah.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2695/gigan1ij4.jpg

http://www.godzilla.stopklatka.pl/rodan1.jpg

http://www.millionmonkeytheater.com/moviepics/titanosaurus1.JPG

dj plantlife
01-17-2011, 07:41 AM
It'll be okay, I think they have more badass electric fence technology nowadays. And tracking chips so it can't sneak up on you.

And the Japanese are doing it. So I can rest assured they won't be used for military purposes, at least for a while.

did you learn NOTHING from gojira?! the japanese cannot be trusted with ancient monsters... and who knows? what if the mammoth could breath fire? were YOU around 4500 years ago to say that it couldn't?

kizat
01-17-2011, 07:42 AM
They obviously learned nothing from that movie!

Just because we can doesn't mean we should.

^^ This.

I'm pretty sure letting a mammoth run the streets of japan is really just a bad horror movie in the making.

ViennaSt
01-17-2011, 07:45 AM
alright well.... maybe they do these things for American entertainment?

kizat
01-17-2011, 07:55 AM
Remember that sheep that got cloned and how dumb it looked?

I'm imagining a dumb, mean, oversized pachyderm that no one can control. Once they finally kill it for being abomination to nature and science, people will make sweaters with it's hair and sold for millions...

The sweaters will stink really bad too... cuz no one realized that Wooly Mammoth hair is actualy not as awesome as we all first thought.

DjBear_PDX
01-17-2011, 08:04 AM
I'm moving to Japan in 5 years

Chakra
01-17-2011, 08:07 AM
Remember that sheep that got cloned and how dumb it looked?

I'm imagining a dumb, mean, oversized pachyderm that no one can control. Once they finally kill it for being abomination to nature and science, people will make sweaters with it's hair and sold for millions...

The sweaters will stink really bad too... cuz no one realized that Wooly Mammoth hair is actualy not as awesome as we all first thought.

But the difference between cloning technology then and now is night and day. We're better now!

ViennaSt
01-17-2011, 08:10 AM
Remember that sheep that got cloned and how dumb it looked?

I'm imagining a dumb, mean, oversized pachyderm that no one can control. Once they finally kill it for being abomination to nature and science, people will make sweaters with it's hair and sold for millions...

The sweaters will stink really bad too... cuz no one realized that Wooly Mammoth hair is actualy not as awesome as we all first thought.

jyes, but you see the ivory will sell for BILLIONS!!!


dumb mean oversized? .... I'm guess I am surprised America isn't producing it.

Kosmicdog
01-17-2011, 08:22 AM
I'm moving to Japan in 5 years

You would totally look awesome riding that thing around Japan.

St. Earl
01-17-2011, 08:25 AM
dumb mean oversized? .... I'm guess I am surprised America isn't producing it.



yes, stupid mammoths often run high powered national organizations.:rolleyes:
>>>>>>>>>>

kizat
01-17-2011, 08:29 AM
You would totally look awesome riding that thing around Japan.

D00D!!

That was my first thought when I saw him post that..

and then it occured to me... if anyone could defeat the mammoth... it'd be Bear!

TheSauce
01-17-2011, 12:50 PM
Very awesome, science rules. 420 clone whatever you want every day





e: Whoever Anon neg repped me for this one can kiss my ass. Sign your reps you fuckin' baby.

.-=PSYLON=-.
01-17-2011, 02:07 PM
The sweaters will stink really bad too... cuz no one realized that Wooly Mammoth hair is actualy not as awesome as we all first thought.

Fine. But the one thing you're all overlooking...


...is that the Mammoth Burger stand I'm opening will be EPIC.

kizat
01-17-2011, 02:09 PM
Fine. But the one thing you're all overlooking...


...is that the Mammoth Burger stand I'm opening will be EPIC.

I'm sure Mammoths are gamey and full of worms.

St. Earl
01-17-2011, 02:29 PM
Fine. But the one thing you're all overlooking...


...is that the Mammoth Burger stand I'm opening will be EPIC.

northern exposure epidode.
joel finds a mammoth during a big thaw. gets excited at the recognition his discovery will garner.

comes back to show off his find only to learn that walt had been waiting years for another big thaw so he could have mammoth steaks. and that he had indeed enjoyed them well.
http://www.film.org.pl/images2/przystanek_alaska/walt_1.jpg

TSE
01-17-2011, 03:36 PM
I remember when they found the intact mamoth flesh and the speculation about cloning.
I can't wait for a real mamoth ! It will be a huge thing for science and open up a whole field of research.

FYI - they have also, on occation, found other creatures intact, frozen in the ice but until now have not preserved the finds. Extinct fish, salamanders, etc have been found in siberia completely preserved and they were eaten by the prisoners of the gulags that found them.

booboo69
01-17-2011, 04:59 PM
did you learn NOTHING from gojira?! the japanese cannot be trusted with ancient monsters... and who knows? what if the mammoth could breath fire? were YOU around 4500 years ago to say that it couldn't?
Maybe so, but the Japanese are also capable of building 300-foot tall gigantic ass kicking robots that can use the Tokyo Tower as a barbeque skewer, and then we can all have mammoth burgers for the rest of forever. :)

Justincredible
01-17-2011, 06:06 PM
I don't know how to feel about this. In some ways it's awesome and exciting, but others it makes me worry. Because after Mammoths, what's next? Dragons? Lol.

ViennaSt
01-17-2011, 06:13 PM
Well this technique dictates that A. The animal has had to actually exist in the past...hehe and B. Their DNA perfectly preserved from being frozen suddenly. So dinasaurus probably won't be included in this. I guess I'm on of those go for it people...totally down to resurrect extinct species. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself right?. ..

St. Earl
01-17-2011, 06:51 PM
yeah. that and mammoth herpes.

Trippzz
01-17-2011, 10:00 PM
The only problem I see with this is that if it is brought back to life, are they going to recreate an environment that closely enough mimics it's natural one, or will it just be a cloning process and deal with that aspect if it actually works? Also, I wonder what a mammoths diet consisted of, and if the things making up it are still around or if it would adapt to present day food sources.

LGOptimistT
01-17-2011, 10:14 PM
They're opening a new genre of beastiality :D

HexRei
01-17-2011, 10:34 PM
It's just a mammoth, they aren't really all that fierce. Besides, everyone knows the real antagonists iN Jurassic Park were humans, everything would have been fine if not for Newman's meddling.

kizat
01-18-2011, 08:28 AM
It's just a mammoth, they aren't really all that fierce. Besides, everyone knows the real antagonists iN Jurassic Park were humans, everything would have been fine if not for Newman's meddling.

Ooh man.. give some credit to the velociraptor...

http://healthstones.com/dinosaurdata/v/velociraptor/velociraptor.jpg

hellnegative
01-18-2011, 10:19 AM
I think they should ignore cloning. They should find a way to make us sterile and live forever! haha


For realski tho. Who's curiosity is funding this project?

ViennaSt
01-18-2011, 10:30 AM
^^uh gawd...

Soooo I looked that up and found that private investors have stepped up to fund the project (which inceidently is a team effort between Japanese, American, and Russian scientists) in Kyoto University.

Private investors looking to monotize the beast. SMH fuckin capitalism - I have a love and mostly hate relationship with tho! We hereby advance ... to sell ...TO SELL!

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source:
"Cloning a woolly mammoth will require an extensive amount of funding. I don’t suspect that the National Science Foundation (NSF) or the National Institute of Health (NIH) will be chomping at the bit to fund this sort of research, so private investors will have to step up to the plate."
"Such a high profile project is sure to attract the attention of private investors, who will undoubtedly identify the one could monetize the hell out of a cloned woolly mammoth. Imagine how much people would pay to see such a thing! Surely investors will see dollar signs and fund the cloning research."
http://fuschmu.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/why-we-should-clone-woolly

TSE
01-18-2011, 11:58 AM
...AND the private investors already have a private island available. Plan your trip NOW!

TSE
01-18-2011, 12:03 PM
No, seriously the mammoths probably live to be well over 80 years old, have one child ever other year max and were hunted to extinction by the neanderthals or our ancestors.
Replacing other species hunted to extinction is a possibility if this succeeds.

Trippzz
01-18-2011, 10:57 PM
Replacing other species hunted to extinction is a possibility if this succeeds.
And what makes replacing animals/plants that have been extinct for so long a good thing? They will have the possibility of having no natural predators and if reintroduced into nature have the possibility to cause widespread devastation to habitats and other animals/plants.

SkyElectric
01-19-2011, 07:39 PM
And what makes replacing animals/plants that have been extinct for so long a good thing? They will have the possibility of having no natural predators and if reintroduced into nature have the possibility to cause widespread devastation to habitats and other animals/plants.

Yea, it would be terrible if there was this one species that took over the planet and caused widespread devastation :rolleyes: