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DMSO
01-18-2000, 07:39 PM
I am fully of my own opinion on this one, but I just want to see the response it get's from Seattle kids.

Due to overwhelming concern, questions and rumours the E.T. Brothers have issued the following statement:

The permit process has just been passed months ago and working with the city is very difficult at this point and very expensive. The E.T. Brothers have the best reputation in town and pride themselves in that. Anyone paying attention in the scene and that wants to be the least bit educated will realize that our last 5 shows have been soldout therefore indicating that we must be doing something right. we are the hardest working promoters in town and by the 5 sold out shows in a row it would be apparent that people know that we don't mess around and they know that they will always get there money's worth when entering into our shows. Everything on the flyer is there and operating as planned and as stated on the flyer. We charge this much because we actually give you all that is advertised always, and both the last Frostee and the first one reset standards of what a party should be on value, new talent and new ideas. This year it will be pushed even further. Guaranteed. We are selling tickets on the day of rather then the door to avoid extra confusion that has occured in the past with other shows, where people that had tickets could not even get in. We refuse to let that happen and not knowing our capacity for such a long time, we finally have it and can sell that amount to ensure the mistakes of the past are not repeated. Therefore ensuring that everyone with a ticket that has supported us will be guaranteed entry. We do not mess around, with our customers. Reputation is the most important thing and as the scene grows people come and go, but stop to look and see who has been around through it all and is still pushin' things to the next level always. Then decide who is in it for the realness. If we don't sell tickets at the door then we loose so many problems. Wev'e been fighting for the scene for years and most people don't even think twice about it. Well think about the people who pushed so you can dance every weekend to good music in a non corporate atmosphere etc. Then decide if things are fair. These are professionally run events and 5 mos. of planning and organizing has gone into this so you can be safe when you enter and have proper facilities and an atmosphere for fun. This is not a cracker jack show thrown in a sketchy basement on Hastings St. with dj nobody, 1-7, no security and a ghetto blaster for sound. These things cost $, so once again its your choice.

Thanks deeply from the E.T. Brothers. www.etbros.com (http://www.etbros.com)

a few notes: tix "sold out" two weeks ago, yet a batch came on the market last week above the advertised price. They will also be charging $70 (cdn= $45 american) at the door.

the headliners: Sharp Boys, Mac Zimms and Cziolek

venue: the Plaza of Nations, with a capacity of at least 5000, I think, they won't release that information.

that's about all I can think of. I want to see what you think.

TheKow
01-18-2000, 09:59 PM
Wow, they're pretty damn full of themselves. I'm very much not interested in gratuitous self-praise, in ANY situation that is geared to justify something (like high prices).


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RageDizzer
01-18-2000, 10:08 PM
you think if i had these guys ego's I could get chicks. cause damn this boys soun like the tye to whack off in a mirror.

Travis

psyanide
01-18-2000, 11:17 PM
I wonder why they're trying to make themselves look good...if they do have a good reputation then I don't see why they need to emphasize that. I also think that one reason why there are problems at the door is because the pre-sale is always lousy...usually they're only a few stores, mostly in the same town(!) that sell tickets...for people who come from far, tickets at the door is most often the only option!!!

Joris

AlexNUMB
01-18-2000, 11:36 PM
Man, I have never even heard of the headliners...

Think about this, People flip USC shit because they charged about that much for freak night 3.... but look at the talent they were bringing when they tried to charge that much... Moonshine, Mars + Mystre, etc...

I think the promoters in Vancouver are milikng it for all they can...

--Alex

diva
01-19-2000, 12:00 PM
Are the ET Brothers sort of like Vancouver's USC?

This is not a cracker jack show thrown in a sketchy basement on Hastings St. with dj nobody, 1-7, no security and a ghetto blaster for sound.

Aren't these the ones folks should go to? Gotta start somewhere.

[This message has been edited by diva (edited 01-19-2000).]

AlexNUMB
01-19-2000, 12:11 PM
I wasn't trying to say that USC is totally skanless or anything.

What i was attempting to point out is that if you feel the need to charge that much for a show, there better be a damn good reason WHY you are charging that much.

i.e. bringing top notch, world class talent such as the Moonshine Tour, Mars and Mystre, Josh Wink, etc.

USC would have been justified in their prices considering the sheer amount of talent they were bringing.

I don't see where ET is justified in their ticket prices for this undertaking.

(But I am not from Vancouver, I don't know what is happening in Vancouver, etc... I was just making a comparison)

--Alex

186k/sec
01-19-2000, 01:31 PM
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.sounds as glossy as the flyer.


*::arms out like frankenstien ~ stumbles towards Vancouver groaning

F r o s h t y,.... F r o s h t y::

kinetic
01-19-2000, 06:01 PM
Funny thing about braggin about sold out shows... They probably only released 50 presell tickets... Or a capacity of 200 - 300 people.. http://www.hyperreal.org/~gruvnkim/ubb/smile.gif

Heheheh...

junglepaul
01-20-2000, 01:43 AM
ET Bros have a great history of parties
but this is getting out of hand and isnt looking to good for them
the 'pop-ravers- will go to any party with a pretty colorful flier - --> I call them concerts cause it aint a rave/party
there are two scenes in Vancouver now:
thf big businesses and the partykids

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Tasty
08-15-2003, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by AlexNUMB
Man, I have never even heard of the headliners...

--Alex

I've heard of Mac Zimms, he's a producer, and dj from Holland. Remember the track 'Horny Horns' by Perfect Phase? That was a track of his.

Most of his stuff is on the hard trance tip....... But there are a couple that I would classify as tribal tech house. I've some of his tracks.

http://www.maczimms.com/
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mac_Zimms

ProblematicBeat
08-15-2003, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Tasty


I've heard of Mac Zimms, he's a producer, and dj from Holland. Remember the track 'Horny Horns' by Perfect Phase? That was a track of his.

Most of his stuff is on the hard trance tip....... But there are a couple that I would classify as tribal tech house. I've some of his tracks.

http://www.maczimms.com/
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mac_Zimms

Also the Sharp Boys have been around forever and a day doing all kinf\ds of remixes for the like of people like Cevin Fisher and many other large name djs. Just my two bits. The performers are worth the money even though I wouldn't pay it I am just a cheap ass. Peace

Jason

dj jakub
08-15-2003, 08:43 PM
"The permit process has just been passed months ago and working with the city is very difficult at this point and very expensive."

I know for a fact that is totally true, at least it was about a year ago. Vancouver passed all kinds of crazy laws involving permits being thousand of dollars, and not only that no refund if you dont' get it. In fact they successfully killed majority of the legal raves in vancouver, hence the few major companies who have the money to put on these large USC like productions.

With so many canadian massives cancelled this year, I can understand where they are coming from, i think it is quite understandible.


BTW.
Mac Zimms is off the hook. (if you like techno, i dont' think anyone does)

Boyd Main
08-19-2003, 06:49 AM
I would say to them, "At least get someone with a high school diploma to write your PR blurbs". Maybe I'm just a snob, but when the English is bad, I reckon the party will be bad.

dj metro
08-21-2003, 02:03 PM
the open letter is amusing to me. if these people were as great as they claim to be then they shouldn't have to justify what they do as promoters in a letter. it sounds to me that they are not as organized or off the hook as they claim since they have to rework their methods of making sure people who are ticket holders are guaranteed to enter their event and not be left in the dark because they let too many people in from the door and filled the capacity of the venue.

it is true that to put on a massive event it takes a lot of capital, organization, and careful planning but anyone with half a brain would know that much. it sounds like they are actually fighting to keep what reputation they have by puffing out their chests and stating what they have done over the years. i dunno, if they are concerned with the cost of throwing events due to permits and other legalities then they should consider jumping the border and bringing their ego's where permits are cheaper.

sounds like too much hype to me. the letter is enough to make me not want to support their events. they don't sound like they are in it for the realness. it is like another board member said:

"if these production companies were not in it to make money, they would be called non-profit production organizations."

Gruvstyle
08-26-2003, 12:04 PM
I can't say I've been to one of their parties, but I have heard good things about them. I'm not quite sure what exactly their point is, but they do seem egotistical about it all. If they have such a good rep, why do they need to write a letter to reiterate it?

Yeah, Mac Zimms is sic. Excellent producer/DJ.
Sharp Boys have made some excellent remixes.

I would go to this, but the fact that I'm poor kinda blows the whole idea.

Peace,
Zak

dj jakub
08-26-2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Gruvstyle
I can't say I've been to one of their parties, but I have heard good things about them. I'm not quite sure what exactly their point is, but they do seem egotistical about it all. If they have such a good rep, why do they need to write a letter to reiterate it?

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cuz so many major parties from promoters who have also an execellent reputation got cancelled up there this year, Rythm Nation, Sumerlove, etc. because of turnout and low presale sales.