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smurfingurl
05-09-2001, 12:39 PM
wUrd :D doing the temp thing is SUCH an excellent idea! it's all about compromise...gotta give a little to get a little and i think i might just do that too!! :)

Nimble*Syd
05-09-2001, 12:58 PM
In my opinion, we are always striving to be content and fufilled with everything and everyone around us, and in the process of trying to achieve that we make ourselves miserable. Nothing will ever be totally perfect, so just enjoy the things that do go well and do what makes you happy.

groovinkim
05-09-2001, 02:27 PM
corporate ho job and creative job don't have to be mutually exclusive... although they often are. perhaps you can find a combination of the two.. there's an amazing amount of interesting jobs out there, it just takes some searching..

sentriK
05-09-2001, 03:01 PM
I am in your described situation as well...

I get up at 5am, work 8 hours for a well known and respected company (airplanes), but I really can't stand the fact that i'm in the process of wasting my life...However, you need to do what is needed to take care of business.

I say, decide for yourself what is best for you, if you feel that you don't want to become a part of the not-so-working corporate/conformed america, then follow your heart and do so.

good luck :)
K

romiette
05-09-2001, 04:16 PM
I've heard good things actually about Temp agencies. Does anyone have a phone number or something?

romiette
05-09-2001, 11:18 PM
be happy, fulfilled, content with everything around you?

I mean, of course its important, it should be to everyone, i would hope, right? But how heavy is the importance to be able to let go of certain things in order to be completely happy with where you are currently?

I'm just confused at this point in my life because there is so much that i want, so many places that i want to go, but i know that i would have to sacrifice certain things in order to get there. Is it more important to be happy right now than to think about getting to that certain point in the future? This is a choice that i'm faced with right now and its really really difficult for me. I almost feel as though i'm being pulled in all these different directions at once.

I could stay where i am right now. Maybe find a few things to dabble in, art-wise, creative-wise, maybe make some money here and there and with a small income coming in from my current (VERY part-time)job, all the while being very happy with what i'm doing, very content, but always having a slight worry hiding behind it all about maybe some months not having quite enough money to pay the bills. But knowing that all the dabbling i'd be doing with my creativity would inspire me to the point where i'd find something that would really bring in a steady income [but it could take a while-not a LONG while, but not overnight].

OR... i could go out and get some 9-5 job, hate it immensely, with a passion, making me grumpy all the time, feeling like i'm not utilizing all of my creative abilities. BUT... having enough money to do things, go places.

So thats how i'm stuck. I'm sure many of you could care less, but thank you if you read this far, i just needed to write this all down. Maybe you will give me some advice? :D

Things always find a way to work themselves out right? I've always thought so, as long as you're strong and willing.

RamblE.. raMbLe... RAMBLE....

.:romie:.

Yungrii Mobliatri
05-09-2001, 11:21 PM
you could find a cool job. i for instance want to be a director or make kids books or dope cartoons.

romiette
05-09-2001, 11:32 PM
I used to want to make kids books =) That would rawk. But yea... thats one of those things, that takes time, it definatley wouldn't be bringing in money for a while. Theres so many creative things/possibilities, but to get to the point where its actually bringing you an income, takes time.

My creative brain is yearning for something. Its asking to be utilized and taken advantage of. But the other part of my brain, the part that tries to think rationally, keeps telling me that i should find a job that will make me money right now.

AGH!!!


.:Romie:.

n3rv0usDJ
05-09-2001, 11:37 PM
I'm feeling you on this one. Right now I have a pretty decent-paying job (considering what I do) but it occupies my time from 3:30-midnight Monday-Friday. Considering at least 20-30 mins for commute to & from work, & considering that I usually don't go to bed until 2-3a.m., & also considering that I do have classes from 8a.m. to 1p.m Mon/Wed/Fri there just doesn't seem like there's enough time to do what *I* want.

Going to school makes me happy, so I don't mind that. Going to work doesn't make me happy, but I can't go to school if I don't work to pay the tuition.

This summer I want to take a highly-intensive Japanese course that would cover 201-203 level classes all in the summer. However, because of the time of the classes, my hours at work would have to be cut, which means I'd be a little above scraping by (but not by much). I know if I end up in the program, I'll be dying -- not enough sleep, too much time in class, rushing off to work everyday -- and in the end I'll probably figure it isn't even worth it...but speaking Japanese & learning it triggers something that makes me willing to sacrifice 3 months of summer.

I don't know what to tell you because I don't even know what I'm going to do for myself...hope it all works out though..

Z.

FoxyRoxxxy7
05-09-2001, 11:55 PM
Being happy is essental...
Its hard not knowing what to do.. but do what feels right...
The best quote is::
You Live Once, Enjoy It!!
It sounds corny but is soo completely true.
As for the money situation...
this might interest you..... how about working for a Temp/Staffing Agency... (they pay decent.. ave $11hr)
you could work 1-2 weeks... every few months with no real commitment.. that could be savings money so you can visit places you want and buy things you desire.
Believe me, ive been in your situation.... with the whole creative thing. I am an artist... and fashion designer and am torn between working all the time for a great company that has nothing to do with 10 years down the road. Sometimes i with i had the freedom to be able to sit around everyday and finish pieces of art that i just don't have time for. You are fortunate to beable to do that....
Just think real hard about what you want to do, go for it... and don't let anything get in the way....

romiette
05-10-2001, 08:42 AM
Other job suggestions?

.:romie:.

FoxyRoxxxy7
05-10-2001, 08:55 AM
hey, your best bet for a Temp Agency.. is to pick up a SeattleWeekly or TheStranger...
and look in the job section...
Usually it will say Staffing company or something...call them up and make an appointment... they usually make you take a typing test and a 10key test.. do your best and no worries....
Also you get paid the week you work... so if you know that you need money and its the middle of the week.. you could work and be paid at the end of the week
I went through a temp agency called Employco, THEY ARE WONDERFUL! So you might want to look for there phone #...
Good Luck!!

romiette
05-10-2001, 09:12 AM
Thanx!!! I will check that out!!!

FoxyRoxxxy7
05-10-2001, 03:20 PM
ohh you are soo welcome and like i said before.. good luck! :D

Miss Abra Rose
05-10-2001, 03:48 PM
You know...I think I can definitely relate to you. I am sitting in my own little world of college up here in Bellingham, I make enough money to keep me entertained and my rent is paid for. I go to class when I feel like it and never really worry about it. I am completely content living this slacker existence and unreality. A friend of mine just got married, talk about a reality check. I only graduated two years ago and to think that one of my very closest friends from back in my high school days got married...Well, made me realize how many different directions we all take.

Taking risks and changing your life is, I believe, essential to a happy existence. Then again that's just me, I intend on travelling the world and going everywhere that I feel some sort of urge or desire to jump to. For instance I am just about to uproot myself to Louisiana for a year...and people keep asking me "WHY Louisiana? What the hell is down there?" All I can answer them with is a shrug and a "why not?". We are definitely only young once and why do things you dislike?

But like you I feel pulled all over the place. So much of my heart is here and ALL of my friends. It's so hard to uproot yourself and leave absolutely everything you've known for the last 20 years of your life. The South isn't going to be anything like it is up here. I don't even know what to really expect down there.

But THIS is what I have to say to you, Romie...You sound like a really with it person who is just sort of tormented by so many desires to live life. You only get this one chance to live, at least this go around, and you might as well make the best of it. Live while you're vitality is surging and your heart is what drives you. :) Do something you LOVE to do, even if it means leaving here, not making as much money...whatever...In time, you're definitely right, all these things do work themselves out. If you feel like you're not living up to your potential then only YOU can really change that.

Anyway, good luck..sorry about babbling on forever...I haven't slept yet after studying for an economics test. Shit, I could tell you all about the opportunity costs of your decisions..hehehe..

Take care and smiles :)
Abra

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romiette
05-10-2001, 04:00 PM
I know exactly what you mean Abra, especially about people asking you "WHY Louisiana?" I decided to take a year abroad to Iceland and i got the exact same response from everyone i knew. "WHY Iceland!?!?" I didn't even know really. I just wanted to do something different, no reason really, just because i wanted to try something new and do something i would have never dreamed of doing. And let me tell you, it was one of the MOST incredible expereinces of my life.

But life really is about taking risk and not worrying about what might happen if you do this or if you do that. I'm learning this slowly but surely. I have a select few people in my life right now who completely drive my heart and soul to do what it is that i want to do, and i thank them so much for that. But i realize that its up to me to get me places. I need to get up and start moving around and stop being so lazy, and scared as well.

Thanx Abra... your post has got me thinking... :D

.:romie:.

Blueskies007
05-10-2001, 04:33 PM
I think it it important to find something you like and take advantage of the opportunity. Life isnt always the way you want it too, and most everyone has to deal with that 9-5 job at some point in their life if not the whole thing. That should never stop the person from trying to be creative.. or having a few hobbies.. there are so many more hours in the day...I myself hate school and my job right now.. but i see it leading up to something I"m going to love! I"m young.. and i have to be patient.

I also think one should think of the future sometimes..some things are not to be thrown away if they are going to be meaningful throughout your life(friends)... and there are those things or people that wont be there forever.

Kathleen

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romiette
05-13-2001, 08:07 PM
there are so many more hours in the day...

There are far too few hours in the day!!! I never feel like i have time to get anything done that i really truely would like to.

A friend of mine just got married, talk about a reality check. I only graduated two years ago and to think that one of my very closest friends from back in my high school days got married...Well, made me realize how many different directions we all take.
I can't wait to see one of my friends get married. Or myself even!! How exciting! Its crazy to see people grow up and to move on and discover new things. Its amazing to me. I was talking to my mom recently about relationship and how amazing my boyfriend is and how lucky i feel to have him in my life right now, and she was telling me about some her her relationships before my dad. It was really truely interesting to me. I found out that she had been married at age 19! To some guy she met and fell in love with. They divorced a year later. It was just so weird, it was my mom. She wasn't supposed to have gotten divorced. My first reaction was "how could you marry someone and get divorced!?!?!" But it made me think. So what, right? I mean, she loved him i'm sure. But after a while things just weren't right. Life is about trying things, learning from them, moving on to new things and always taking with you the ideas you learned from those "mistakes".

I'm not really sure that that had anything to do with anything, but it really changed the ideas i had in my head about certain things.

And yes... i do agree that it is important to think about the future. But more importantly, one should think about the present, for it is our present that shapes our future, yah?


I'm appologizing in advance... whenever i start a thread about something it always turns into me rambling about this and that, not really having anything to do with my original post, but its your responses that spark new ideas in me... so thank you =)

.:romie:.

Yucatan
05-13-2001, 09:00 PM
Ive come to the conclusion that i cant do what i want. I mean, seriously, what can you do? I dont have the money(welcome to capitalism) to do what i want, nor the stamina, nor the time. I hate my job because i really am not HELPING people. I want to know that what i am doing makes people's lives easier, but i dont seem to be doing that very well at all. And cubicles scare the hell out of me. I cant seee myself getting a corporate job, an suv, and a house in the burbs, much less a family anytime in the next 5-10 yrs. i dont want that now, but will it happen even though i dont want it to? I think i dont have to let it happen, but i will have to sacrifice a lot to make a positive contribution in this world, and at least a non-negative effect on the environment. The balance of happiness has to be found in a compromise of what you want to happen, and what happens.
Kinda depressing when you think about the transientness and tinyness of life, makes me wanna become a crazy anarchist who runs around wreaking havoc against "the system"...wait a minute... i am kinda crazy... and i am pretty anarchistic in my politics.... hmmmmmmmm :p

DJ Rawkus
05-13-2001, 10:16 PM
WORD to romie and abrarose!

I and my roommate are somewhat the same in that area. She is saving money to go visit Egypt. I am saving money to visit Papua New Guinea. Both areas are magical and mystifying in their own ways, and i think in a sense, when we each arrive to our destinations it will be a mecca. A holy journey to our own private heaven. We want to soak up the culture and bring it back with us, to infuse ourselves with new life in this hurried "american world" we live in.
As far as things go in life, i am torn on careers as some of you mentioned. I have creative sparks i want to share, and places i want to visit, people i want to study. But it seems that corporate life is always over my shoulder begging for my attention and my money. I am old enough to know the difference between responsibility and yet still young enough to drop it all and fly away...it's tough sometimes to be caught in what i like to call the "net of life", but the key is to hang on to it and use your "net" to bring you to new plateaus in your life. Use your weaknesses as strengths, and your downfalls as stepping stones.I understand how when yer creative and want to live as much as possible it can be torture, and for now im still figuring out how to solve that puzzle myself, so i can't really help ya...but just remember, life goes by quickly! Do not be slow to decide or you may lose the chance forever! Even if you choose the wrong thing (choosing the wrong thing is a whole 'nother lecture i wont get into), experience it to its fullest and learn from it.

Sparklecheek
05-14-2001, 09:26 AM
I'd say a temp agency is definitely the way to go if you are trying to pursue an artsy-fartsy career at the same time (like me!) They do all the foot work for you, since you may not have time to do it yourself. And half the time, the company they hook you up with ends up hiring you for themselves anyway! I went with Selectemp, and had a pretty good experience. You might want to try them. :D

AliciaisAlwaysPimpin
05-14-2001, 10:36 AM
Being happy is all that is important in your life. If you are not happy with the way life is going, change your life. Go with your gut instinct.

RPM
05-14-2001, 10:53 AM
And yes... i do agree that it is important to think about the future. But more importantly, one should think about the present, for it is our present that shapes our future, yah?

it is also our present that we live in. thinking about the future is good because it is necessary to set up life according to personal goals and wishes. BUT we must not forget that we experience the present and not the future.

Time is a funny thing. We have very little influence over it. It is not prudent to focus completely on the present or the future. "Pick your battles." Know where your influence will make the greatest waves.

I know this is all theory and not based on a solid foundation, but imho life carries these same characteristics.

:)
mikey

romiette
05-14-2001, 01:46 PM
Nathan!! I didn't know you are planning on taking a trip to Papua New Guinea!!! Thats amazing.

A holy journey to our own private heaven.

Exactly. This is what travelling is and why i want so much to experience an immense amount of it. You choose a place, for whatever reason, and you arrive there, after saving money and trying so hard to get it, and when you do.... [insert amazing feeling here].... you feel like you've acomplished something incredible and being able to explore this new place is your reward. IMHO of course. /me cannot wait to really really explore new places.


Time is a funny thing.
Isn't it though? Some days theres too many hours in the day and some days theres not enough. Most often theres not quite enough time in the day. Its not fair!!!!!
;) But i think we just need to learn to take advantage of the time we do have. Learn not to complain (i complain far too much. If i could only take all that time i spend complaining and turn it into useful productive time-WOW!).

Ramble ramBLE... time to go to work... for a whole 1/2 hour today... you see-something needs to change....

/me must call temp agency...

.:romie:.

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Effendi
05-14-2001, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by sentrik:
<STRONG>I am in your described situation as well...

I get up at 5am, work 8 hours for a well known and respected company (airplanes), but I really can't stand the fact that i'm in the process of wasting my life...K</STRONG>

I don't know Kurt, With a good Job and maintaining responsability and practicing on your tables and being a good friend to others...doesn't really sound to me like your wasting your life.

The word Potential is a big one.....
There are things ALL of us could be doing better, or more of. We have all heard about what potential we possess.

Personally, I ask myself "Am I doing what I'm supposed to be doing."
I guess the answer is that I could take on another job, or work more overtime or volunteer with old people or who knows what else. There are a million things we COULD be doing.
But I think the question we should ask ourselves is.
#1 Am I maintaining a responsable life?
(all my bills paid, still go to work)
#2 Am I doing things in my life to make others lives better?
(am I a friend to my friends when they need one)
#3 Am I doing things in my life that I enjoy and that make me Happy?
#4 What do I see for myself 5 years in the future, and am I on a path to accomplish that?

These are the questions I ask myself somewhat regularly.
If you are not satisfied with your own answer, then you have the power to make a change for yourself.

From what I've seen man, your doing just fine!!
Peace Out!! Scott!!!
:cool:

Blueskies007
05-14-2001, 04:19 PM
I think lots of people waste lots of time sleeping. I myself am included in this, i love to sleep. I have realizied if one takes care of themselves well they dont need to sleep as much. Getting up early in the morning is a good thing, I find myself take greater advantage of the day.
I think with the things I have been dealing with the past few months, I value my friends the most. Ive had boyfriends and truly and deeply cared for them, but when it comes down to it i wouldnt trade my friends in for anything. Now that I am single and not in that lust and love mentality, I find it easier to see this clearer. And I wish this were true to all people. I;ve found that all too often love is taken over friendship and it ends disasterous. Every person I talk to about this has had this experience, young and old. It's something you have no control over... and I think about it everyday and wish things had been different.
Just some rammbling. But I"ve had so much on my mind.
Kathleen

186k\sec
05-14-2001, 04:20 PM
i dont believe it is possible to be fully content & happy with Everything around you.

alls it takes for me is a look out the window to find discontent with the world, the trick is how to deal with it...maintaining a positive outlook...and choosing your battles...The balance between a job you enjoy & a job that you profit from can be difficult, and rare when its both.

romiette
05-14-2001, 04:37 PM
Ive had boyfriends and truly and deeply cared for them, but when it comes down to it i wouldnt trade my friends in for anything..

An amazing thing is when a significant other is really truely a friend as well as a lover(boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife). Someone who sees things in you that maybe no one else does. Its something so valuable and something i treasure very much in the relationship that i have with my current boyfriend. I'm not sure he even really knows it, but the way he supports me and simply shows interest in everything that i do, that i love, that i care about. THAT pushes me towards what i want more than anything could. That simple interest/support from someone like that is so amazing to me.
I appreciate so much the amount of support that all of my friends give me. Without them, i wouldn't be the strong willed person that i am. They've created something wonderful in me, and i thank them all for that.

alls it takes for me is a look out the window to find discontent with the world, the trick is how to deal with it...maintaining a positive outlook...and choosing your battles...
Thats really true. The world will never be perfect, it will never be exactly the way you want it to be, but if you can get yourself to appreciate the good things that do exist, you'll find it easy to be happy and fulfilled.

Hey Abra... i'm just curious... about the Louisiana thing... How long are you staying? Or are you just going, and taking life as it comes? I'm just curious. I wish i had it in me right now to just up and leave to somewhere that i wanted to go. Soon, soon....

.:romie:.

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Miss Abra Rose
05-14-2001, 11:43 PM
I can't wait to see one of my friends get married. Or myself even!! How exciting! Its crazy to see people grow up and to move on and discover new things. Its amazing to me.

It's the wildest feeling in the world to realize that people you know are getting married. It was a real shock to hear that my friend Becky was married because I had not really talked to her in a year since she went to Korea for the air force. Our communication had been sparse and far inbetween. But I got an email from her and all it said was, "I got married". Talk about a "fall out of your seat backwards" sort of shock. I finally talked to her yesterday on the phone and it was so wonderful. We were able to pick up and just talk like we used to. It made me realize just how much I miss her and I wish I could have been part of her wedding. That was the one thing that disappointed me because I figured that when Becky got married it would be all of us there, a big wedding...not some chapel in Las Vegas. But you know what? She's so incredibly happy and they're going to have another wedding next summer. I can hardly wait!! It's something like this that gets you thinking a lot about how quickly things change in time.

Thanx Abra... your post has got me thinking...

No problem, Romie :) I just like your posts most of the time so I respond to them.

And never fear...I am sure you'll keep discovering the craziness that is called life out there. We all have no real choice. Sometimes it drives us crazy and then other times it makes us wildly happy.

As the weeks wind down here at school, I am completely blown away that my second year of college is nearly over. I mean, my youngest brother is going to graduate here in about four weeks and I get to help out at his senior all nighter. How old does that make me really feel? I was doing that only two years ago and I can still feel a twinge of what I felt during those last weeks of high school.

Then as time goes by, I realize I am leaving the Pacific Northwest in three months. Wow...Time to suck it up, pack my stuff and just head straight to the goal. I can't even wait to go to Louisiana and I can't even describe to people why, just like you couldn't tell people why Iceland. Who the heck knows and who the heck really cares?

Anyway,I am sure I have rambled on and on quite enough.

Thanks for the posts with thought behind them Romie :)

smiles :)
Abra

Blueskies007
05-15-2001, 05:02 PM
its true your sig other is your friend, someone you have things in common with and can onjoy spending time with... but friends are prone to last long espeically when your young especially. I know you dont wanna hear this... but most guys arent what they seem to be. And its hard when a friend wont understand that... or listen to poeple around them. But I guess we all learn in the end.
Kathleen

Effendi
05-15-2001, 05:56 PM
They say that opposites attract, and that is true. But it is just that, an attraction (by us) to someone or something that is different to us.

In reality, all people, being born different have many unique things that make them different. And being that all of us really want things our way, it is alot easier in life if you find what I call a "Like Soul"

I don't believe in the singularity of soulmates, but I do believe that there are many "Like Souls" out there. That is, individuals that tend to like the same things.

So the simplest way to have a successful relationship, is to be with someone who likes the same things you do. Less things to fight about.

Whether that is food items or exscursions.
I personally like Wine and Cheese and grapes and triscuits for dinner. (not every night, but once a week at least)
Well when I met my Girlfriend, she also ate alot of wine and cheese and fruit. So our refrigerators looked alot alike.
Just an example of common preferences.
Now that we live together, shopping has not changed much for us.

I guess my point is, if you can find a friend that you like hanging out with, and they turn into a lover, it's not so bad!!

Peace Out!! Scott!!! :)

Blueskies007
05-17-2001, 08:38 AM
yea i can agree, sometimes you finod someone you dont have anything in common with but it just clicks, I seem to end up with guys that like some things i like but they take lots of drugs, or smoke of something I dont really dig.

romiette
05-17-2001, 07:07 PM
I've always beleived in the idea of finding a "soulmate". I think because it just sounds so wonderful. Although i *do* believe that there may be more than one person who could potentially be my "soulmate".

Its always nice to have things in common with someone. It gives you something to build on. But its also so much fun to learn (about) new things from another person.

Maybe i've even met my soulmate and i just don't know it yet. *shrugs* who knows?

People are fascinating... yes they are :D

.:romie:.

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romiette
06-10-2001, 04:08 PM
"There is a time in every man's education when he arrives at the conviction that envy is ignorance; that imitation is suicide; that he must take himself for better, for worse, as his portion; and though the wide universe is full of good, no kernel of nourishing corn can come to him but thru his toil bestowed on that plot of ground which is given to him to till...
trust thyself: every heart vibrates to that iron string. Accept the place the divine providence has found for you; the society of your contemporaries, the connection of events. " -Ralph Waldo Emerson

This is my place to ramble about life, and stuff&things in general :D so... ramble Ramble RAMbLE... i just really like this quote... i just really like Emerson in general i suppose.

wham-oh
06-10-2001, 04:28 PM
i think that it is way morE important to havE a job that i lovE and makE lEss than to suffEr all day and havE it EffEct my lifE aftEr work.... :D

jesse orton
06-10-2001, 05:57 PM
Jobs suck,If you can get one you enjoy and it gets you by than keep it and try to use the skills you learn to make it more sucsessful. Just remember to have fun
:rolleyes: