Good / Bad E????

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[sEalove]

hello to all you lovely people.. ill make is short and sweet, and one have some input on some real good E going around.. me and my friends want the best for laygoland hope someone can help

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[drseanysean]

What is the good E that's currently going around? And what's the bad?

[AlexNUMB]

First off, I can't/won't openly condone drug use or the ingesting of pills of unknown origin. However, I can offer a few points of light on the subject.

1. Only buy pills from people you know and trust. Buying from an unknown source at a party is an open invitation to getting ripped off.

2. Get your pills tested. Got to give DanceSafe some major props here... If your at a party were DanceSafe is, tell the guy your gonna buy pills off of that you want to get them tested. DanceSafe is not about busting people, and they test pills only to ensure people's safety and collect data on bad pills. If they won't let you or have issues with you getting your pills tested then it's probably a good indication that they can't be trusted.

3. Buy your own testing kit. About $20 from Raverbooks in Seattle, or you can mail order them... $20 is a good price to keep from getting ripped off or poisoned.

And, Again, Hypothetically speaking... not that I have ever ingested MDMA or anything like that... but You know, uhm... If I were to look for E in the near future, I could safely say that both the red and green Toyotas are GREAT...As are the Green Smurfs.

But, uhh... that was only hypothetically speaking... *wink* *nod*

[vox2000]

Green triangels = DXM (bad, or fake E)

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[YODA]

Pure MDMA is a white powder with just a little bit of a blue tint if you look real close. It has a very distinguishable bitter taste that is easily recognized with a little practice. My personal experience is that pure is the way to go, because with pills you can never really be sure what you're getting.
Even if lots of good pills with the same print are running around any drug dealer can get a pill press and duplicate those pills using cheaper drugs. This tactic has obvious advantages to your average shady drug dealer.
I would definitely recommend to only buy drugs from people you know and trust, and I think testing is a good idea too. However, alot of people that sell pills don't necesarrily like all of the commotion that goes on around testing a pill. Testing a pill requires handing it over before payment, and often is easier to spot than say the relatively quick exchange of money-pill.
Another good idea is to buy your E before the party and take it with you, this way you avoid the rather steep retail market created buy all of those people looking for the same thing at once. An even better idea is to go sober. This can be just as fun and even more rewarding than taking drugs. Personally, I've thouroughly enjoyed both.

[Raverbooks]

Actually, our testing kits are $5, not $20.
We have them in our retail store in
Seattle, and you can also order them online.

http://www.pulpfiction.com/rave/etest.html has more information.

[DJ Boy 420]

I recently did E for the first time and I must say, it's ok. I was going to go to BEC, but as soon as I heard it was moved or whatever, I decided not to go. I had this little pill still, so I ate it. It was okay. I was pretty loose the whole night and I felt pretty euphoric. One of my buddies kept trying to get me to put Vaporub on my face, but I just wasn't down with that. My question is, are you supposed to feel 'more' than that? Seemed like kind of a rip. $20! I would compare my experience with eating valium. Because I didn't feel the energy I thought I would. Would the be considered bunk? Is it supposed to be better than that? Lemmeknowwassup!

[sleater kinney]

DJ Boy,

Maybe you did take valium... The point is you don't really know until you test it. Also all drugs effect everyone differently. For example people who take prozac for depression don't feel E as strongly as those who don't. (that information is from the slide show on http://www.harmreduction.net/dancesafe )

[vox2000]

Sleater - Thats because anti-depressants(SSi's) block the uptake of Saratonine, hence inhibiting the effects of E. Its recommended that those on SSi's(Prozac, Zoloft -etc.) should not consume MDMA. I would strongly recommend anybody who takes prescibed drugs to check against potential harmful reactions w/E. - See http://come.to/ecstasy

[teabag]

Dj boy: just a guess... but you may have taken some ketamine... Are you sure you took MDMA?

-tea

[orion]

I had what everyone told me was the
best E they ever had, supposed to be pure.
It wasn't no fun at all. These things
affect everyone different.

[groovinkim]

a lot of people say pills are "pure"
that aren't... i recommend testing rather
than going by rumors..

there are also some webpages where
people submit lab analysis of pills and
also subjective opinions so that people
can get a general idea of which "brands"
should be avoided...

here they are:

http://come.to/ecstasy

http://www.harmreduction.net/dancesafe/eresults.html

http://www.ecstasy.org

[sleater kinney]

Hank (Lord Woon),

If you get "pukey" it just means you have stomach cancer.

:P

-Dr. Dante

[groovinkim]

if you pass out free herbal e at events,
please let people know that it is a stimulant which is dangerous for people with heart conditions to take, and that it interacts VERY badly with real ecstasy and
with many other drugs.

and lord, puking is very common.. see
the pages i posted earlier for more info
on why it happens..

[vox2000]

Well - I've taken E from the same batch as a freind of mine - had the same pre-meal - and he puked - I never have, or even felt any nausea, but we both had a great roll. So, it seems to depend on the user. Some folks are pukers & some aren't. Its weird though, you'd think puking would cancel your ride, but appearantly it (mdma) doesn't need to be in your system that long to take effect.

[Lady Legs]

Lord Woon: The reason you feel kinda crummy if you don't eat before you pop "E" is because your tummy is empty, and it expects to be feed in high doses. If you take a pill, your body is expecting more food to follow, so it begins to create high amounts of acid in order to prepare itself for the oncoming food. When that food doesn't come your body becomes unbalanced because the high levels of acid are not be used to digest food....
Love Dina

[groovinkim]

a bunch of new ecstasy pill test results
are now on the dancesafe page.

http://www.harmreduction.net/dancesafe/eresults.html

it also lists the location. many of the
ones were sent in from places other than
seattle, but they have shown up here.

at future impact we tested the white ones
with the criss-cross.. those were dxm..
stay away!

[groovinkim]

thought i'd post this for those of you
who might be interested.

there is a message board similar in format
to this one, but it's dedicated to discussing ecstasy..
what pills are good and what ones are
not so good and various things like that..

http://www.bluelight.nu/cgi-bin//Ultimate.cgi?action=intro

[groovinkim]

thought i'd post this for those of you
who might be interested.

there is a message board similar in format
to this one, but it's dedicated to discussing ecstasy..
what pills are good and what ones are
not so good and various things like that..

http://www.bluelight.nu/cgi-bin//Ultimate.cgi?action=intro