On the Spirit Tip; HeartMindBody

[smurfingurl]

hey gurl!! i have to be the first to post a reply cuz mah name is tara too! woo hoo! :D i have found meself becoming more and more introspective in the past few years....i think a lot of it has to do with my friends and my involvement in "the scene" i do find a spiritual peace within myself from dancing...and writing and painting and drawing. but i've done some searching and experimenting and i have found a completely new way of connecting with the music and other people that i never knew existed until not long ago. i have become more comfortable with myself and i associate a lot of that with the people i surround myself with...nearly all the people i have met through parties and gatherings share a love of beauty and peace that not many people get the privilege to experience ever in their lives. i remember the first time i went to the temple...it was the first time i had ever been to anything close to a "rave" i had no idea what to expect and i was amazed! everyone was friends with everyone else and i saw people dancing all different ways and it didn't matter to anyone!! we were all just there to dance to some dope beats...and that's what i did all night long till the sun came up. i didn't need drugs to do it either (not that i'm saying they are bad ;) ) and when i left, i was tired as fuck, but i was different inside and it felt good! since then, i have done a lot of soul searching and realized that we ARE all on this earth to love and learn from eachother and discover our own paths and truths. and it's okay that we all think differently~i'm not gonna waste my time sweating over what someone else thinks of me or what i think of them...i think everyone is beautiful and has something to offer this world...i think some people need a little more guidance than others, but that's good! imperfection is good! and to me now, life is all about the little things...i take the time to stop and smell the roses...last weekend after the party, me and my krew drove up to this look out point at like 5:30 and watched the sunrise and it was amazing! everything is so quiet and still at that time...it almost looked like a painting. we all huddled together under our blankets and sometimes we talked and sometimes we were just silent, but we all shared something that morning...and i am soo thankful for that temple party so long ago, because who knows what i would have been doing last sunday morning had i not known these great friends of mine that i met at a party! :D

[ 05-08-2001: Message edited by: e*gurl ]

[supastara]

Our community seems Spiritually thirsty...

Spirit and Music have always been bed-mates... whatever the religion, or denomination; philosophy or mythology.

So, within the scope of our shared interests; the music, the vibe, the people, the late-night-early-morning-time-contemplation, the Divine Revellation you had on the Dance Floor, the inspiration you felt pour thru you at the speaker... What do you believe? Why? What do you hold dear?

How do you unify your HeartMindBody?

Does the scene you're involved in feed your spirit?

How?

What kind of epiphanic-mind-blowing-experiences have you had?

I write, and I'm working on a simple and profound concept. I'd like to use the scene as it stands as a backdrop for it, and your input will help me see more broadly to create a clear picture of us.

Anyway, do tell...

Love~Tara ;)

[ 05-15-2001: Message edited by: supastara ]

[supastara]

MMmmmm-hmm! Yay, Girl. Is your name pronounced with a an "ahr" sound or an "air" sound? Tara's got a ton of different meanings in a bunch of culturse, ranging from Goddess to hill to healing herbs...
Thank you for posting! Big hugs~

[smurfingurl]

it's pronounced like terra...and you? btw...excellent topic! i feel like i was reborn and started life all over again like 2 years ago...i feel like i am now the person i was always meant to be, ya know? :D woo hoo for the sun!! :cool:

[trikc]

can we marry our threads (YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE)? :D
seems like we both wants the same dish.

this is way to heady for me to really dive into right now, but i wanted to post something small to keep this thread's momentum.


these are some of my views--

i find that the more i come to know, i realize there is more that i don't know.

i believe that many of the spiritual belief systems are just different ways of trying to understand the same thing.

love and compassion are the only things in the world that i truly believe in.

it is tempting and easy to become distracted from being who you could be.

consciousness is pyramidal.

i hope reincarnation is real. i hope i have a million more stabs at this.

dancing is divining.

redheads make better lovers :p

that's it for now, girlz...
xoxo!

[smurfingurl]

:D

[hipgnosis]

sorry i don't have time to post something original, but i wrote this a year or two ago, and i thought it fit in with the thread. The ideas within were spawned when i was living in NorCal and partying in SF.

Whenever i click into a high energy (loving) state, after i've reveled in its glory and savored its delightful waves of subtle bliss, i like to send that feeling to myself at all points in my past, present and future. Sounds strange, i know, but bear with me.

Instead of viewing myself as disparate entities, some loved more than others, all different, scattered across a one-way timeline, i'm now starting to see myself as one being, loved completely, comprised of an energy signature that is timeless, but expressed in linear time. (Tangent: this means that i get the comfort of knowing incontrovertibly there is someone larger than this time-bound viewpoint i call "me" watching, loving and helping me along (Me), as well as knowing that whatever happens, it's all a part of the plan, as well as enjoying what, to all intents and purposes, feels and seems like free will! Whoopee!)

i also get the feeling that the rest of my life that is not spent enjoying this wondrous, loving state of being is merely my karma working, my soul awakening, and these moments are the only true awareness, the only real experience of being there is. This is supported by the tendency to remember all previous moments of clarity as merely another one in this series, to view this feeling as a thread that runs through the rumpled fabric of my existence which, when tugged gathers my life around it like so many pleats. When viewed this way, it seems that every chain of experiences between these interconnected moments appears to be a loop which only completes itself when i return to this state of pure love.

i also begin to feel a lot better about myself, especially in the past, because i can now see why things were so hard for me, even in the times when i was a person that i don't really like. All that time, what i really wanted, the object of my quest, was love. So now i'm giving it to myself retroactively. Every time i see myself in the past (and present and future) i try to love myself the way i would if i was right there in the scene (i am, aren't i?). Hugging the kid who wakes up screaming alone. Telling the alienated geek he's cooler than he can possibly imagine (it's true). Showing the heartbroken hippie that there are others who love him (himself included) and that someday, he will find a love stronger, healthier and more passionate than the one who has left him crying in the darkness. Assuaging the guilt of the man who feels he has lost his way and fallen into impurity and spiritual stagnation (you never leave the path; sometimes we stumble, but we are waiting to catch ourselves when we fall). And many other places my soul needs a good massage.

It's all in there. All the memories, traumatic and ecstatic, painful and joyful. All that's needed to release their power is to embrace them fully.

:) Love Is The Key :)

[trikc]

i still love smart people *drool*
xoxo

[supastara]

This sucka was about to get WAY long... so I'm gonna do it up in parts...

Part 1~
Jung's original theory of Synchronicity and meaningful coincidence, what the Muslims call the Straight Path, and the idea that our physical existence (what we perceive to be reality) is akin to our own 2 dimensional cast-shadows, the projection of something greater, are a couple parts of my own philosophical model.

Has anyone heard/read/thought anything about Self Projection? I mean, in the same vein as what I think you may have been referring to, Hipgnosis...

Y'all are making my formerly-intellect-spirit-conversation-starved-mouth WATER...
Thanks! :D

OH! And, ***e*gurl*** I'm a Tara, as in supaStar-uh. ;)

[ 05-10-2001: Message edited by: supastara ]

[RaveOlution01]

Spirituality is definetly evident for me at most parties I go to. Its amplified by the music, the people, and the overwhelming sense of love and compassion i feel for people in life, not only at parties. In order for the human species to co-exist, a general understanding of this love and this sensation needs to be prevalent. Unfortunately, it is not a main focus in the grand scheme of American society. We are taught that money, sex, and power are needed to be happy and "successful" in life. That is completely false and misleading, and it is unfortunate that our "land of freedom" raises young children on these ideals of segregation and wealth. To me, true happiness exists with the eurphoric feeling that grabs me by the heart, drawing me closer to others around me. Call this spirituality if you will, or call it an "enlightened understanding" of our world and the people in it. It is in actuality the beauty in life that people struggle to capture with their frantic struggles for money to fill an endless hole in their heart. For me, spirituality as I define it is what fills my void; an understanding between myself and another. People just need to learn to look around them and see the beauty evident everywhere, not searching for it in sparkly new porches or that bigger summer house in the Fiji islands (not like I would mind one, its just not they key to happiness.) :D Anyway, ive rambled on non-stop enough... I hope this makes some sense but I have a feeling its a little jumbled. I really dont feel like editing it though, so DEAL! :) Peace and luv everz all...
-Bri :D :D :D

[trikc]

Originally posted by RaveOlution01:
<STRONG>We are taught that money, sex, and power are needed to be happy and "successful" in life. That is completely false and misleading, and it is unfortunate that our "land of freedom" raises young children on these ideals of segregation and wealth...
People just need to learn to look around them and see the beauty evident everywhere</STRONG>

i followed you completely, except for the part about sex! *purrr* :p

laugh if you want (you know you want to), but this reminded me of the plastic bag sequence in american beauty. i swear they ripped me off.

xoxo

[supastara]

American Beauty is such an AWESOME parable. I was really moved by that film, and have encouraged a LOT of people to see it with their own spiritmind in hand...

[hipgnosis]

Originally posted by trikc:
<STRONG>i still love smart people *drool*
xoxo</STRONG>

Smart people love you ;)

[supastara]

Part 2~ :p
The quickest route from A to B is a straight line, right? So, if point A is birth and point B is bliss, (nirvana, heaven, whatever you call it) the quickest route would still be a straight line. But what human actually takes that 'quickest route' straight path? We squirrel all over the place, doubling back on our path, looping around, etc, occasionally intersecting the "True Path", the one that could hasten our ascension. I like the idea that time isn't linear and that we are all that we have been, all we are, and all we will be - simultaneously; at those moments when you're like, "Hey, I dreamt this..." or "Have I been here before?" or all the other moments of clarity and meaningful coincidence, I believe those are points of intersection with Truth, with your Self, your greater Self... these are the moments when we are ON or very near that intrinsic line; red flags from the Universe that say "HEY! You're RIGHT where you should be to attain Bliss; LOOK! you are on your path..." ;)

[forrest303]

hmm...i have seen caring, compassion, warmth, openess, bliss on faces of dancers, contentment. feeling one with the music and the here and now.
i feel god is everywhere and in everything. its when we drop aside the cares and worries that you are open to things that you had put up walls to shield yourself from seeing or feeling. i have felt at peace when dancing. there have been times when i realized that there was only me, the music and the people around me. at this times, i feel nothing...no attachments, no worries, nothing...then an overwhelming feeling of love flows through me. i was open at that time to the energy that flows through everything. i had become part of something greater then an individual. i had tapped into the god energy, life energy of everything. animal, vegetable, mineral were one and the same.
god is love. and i feel and see god at certaina times when i am dancing. i feel love when i dance and lose myself. i dance because to me, its about celebrating life and being part of something larger then an individual. so much of our lives are devoted to being ourselves and distancing ourselves from our neighbours and loved ones...its nice to feel a part of the whole once in awhile...
and yes, i was sober :P

[RaveOlution01]

Hahaha. Gotta love American Beauty. Quality. :D
-Bri

[smurfingurl]

wow!! ;) has anyone read conversations with god? if ya haven't, i really recommend it! i think all of you will really appreciate it. it's soo comforting to read this thread :) i hope to meet all of you someday....hopefully sooner than later! have a beautiful day

[supastara]

Conversations with God IS or should be a required read for spiritual kids... totally.

Ah-ight, here's PART 3 in my little series of Party/Rave-kid Spirituality...

In regards to the posts from last week... when we're experiencing these sensations and revelations with others, it seems it might mean that our separate paths are tightly intertwined and directly related to one another, that WE may be on the SAME path together... your closest loved ones, the ones you surround yourself with will often experience this stuff with you, you know? I think this is a HUGE aspect of the culture we're all kind of immersed in, now... that feeling of community and belonging, and unconditionality we sense at some functions or with some people, but for me, OFTEN and most consistently in the rave arena, as so much empathy and openness flies around.

(the cynic in me mumbles "sure, you get that many people high on the original Aspirin for the soul, and there's gonna be some lovey-dovey-feel-good-candy-huggin' goin' on, and we ALL think we can save the world." But I realized awhile ago that I don't really care what folks use as a catalyst to feel this way, just as long as they get to, at least once, feel that they are a part of something larger, a PROJECTION of something greater)

What do you think?

[forrest303]

yes yes...conversations with god is a must read.
scary, beautiful and eye opening. i cried when i read it.

;)

[smurfingurl]

gurl...i luv yer brain!! this is EXACTLY how i feel!! i know that if more people on this planet could experience what some of us have experienced through events and music, the world could be sooo different. :D aaaaaa!! this is great! i DO feel like i am part of something greater than any words could explain; i KNOW i am. i have been enlightened. i feel like i now understand humans in way that i didn't before...i have more compassion for strangers cuz i really believe that no matter what, everyone is just trying to live their lives the best they can. i know there are meanies out there~i'm not completely naive, but it's been a long time since i have met someone who is really bad! hmm....maybe it's cuz i hang out with all these cool party kidz and we all luv everyone :) we all come from different circumstances and beliefs, yet so many of us connect on a deeper level and it's all because of music!! this thought blows my mind all the time. i have met some of the greatest people in my life...and i probably never would have had we not shared a luv of music and dance and compassion for others and life. sometimes it feels too good to be true, ya know? ooooo i luv life :D

[supastara]

What's funny is, I find where ever I go, people are asking indirectly for this kind of exchange, for a sharing of mutual beliefs, and an opportunity to interact with other people on a higher level than "Gawd, he's such a punk-ass", or "Ugh, I dunno what to do with my hair..." But it seems like OUR community is filled with an especially DENSE need for this, and OUR community is so without it. This thread is pretty thin, yet on so many other threads, folks are yelling out "Gimme sumptin' to believe in, sumptin' to get behind..." you know?

When I think back 10 years, I remember this feeling of loss, like I was without something, and no one understood what I was missing, or could offer guidence in how to find it...

I look at where I am now, and I'm no more "found" than I was at 16, but I feel like myself, you know? And I see/hear/read a feeling in a lot of the stuff that the folks in our community have to say that's SO familiar to me... I wanna help.

Within the Dance/Electronic Music Community, I sometimes feel that metaphorically, I'm in a room with a bunch of strangers, and the only way out is through a window, high up on the wall.

I know where there's a ladder...