MY SCENE IS WITHOUT CANDI KIDS BUMMER.

[raelee]

Most of my our scene right now is made up of old school ravers that have kinda grown out of the candi scene. Understandable, I guess, each to his own. I have only, but two serious candi kids in my crowd. I love candi kids so much, but they kinda are getting nothing but bashing right now. How should I help increase the colors and smiles in my scene?

[raggaMASHAmuffin]

err where is this scene of yours?

[raelee]

About 4 hours south of Portland....Please send real ravers my way...... :)

[Vick_the_Vapor]

You are looking in the wrong place my friend. Candy Kids have been under persecution here too. Self-appointed fashion police and intolerance elitists have turned our raves into clubs. The only way you can help is to be extra nice to candy kids to try and counteract other people's oppression. Go out of your way to compliment, talk to and get to know the Candy Kids that are left. They are a treasure and they won't be around forever.

Keep Hope Alive!

[UrbanAssualtCutie]

Where do you live? Point me in that direction! Please count your blessings don't try to destroy them!

[bsweet]

Please send real ravers my way

Are you implying that "candi kids" are the only "real ravers"??? BAH!!! What a bunch of malarky!! You should be happy that yer scene is not played out with the standard "Raver uniform". If you want more "color and smiles" do it yerself! Creativity and originality used to be part of what made this scene unique and special. Now most candy ravers that I see out and about just look like cookie cutter versions of each other.

I am certain not everyone in yer scene is against color. You just gotta present it in an innovative way. Maybe those "old school ravers" have just grown up a bit away from the plastic jewelry etc. There are other ways to be colorful without resorting to cheap beads and phat blue jeans.

[inbetween dreams]

Be grateful for all of the party kids you have in your scene.....plastic glow-in-the-dark jewelry doesn't make you who you are. Take a chance to get to know some of these kids....you might be suprised!

[Enkidu Kind]

Old school ravers in Medford Oregon? Are you kidding? There has ony been an organized scene down there for maybe a year. I lived in Ashland from 1993 to 2000 and there were never any old school ravers. Lotsa hippies, some turntablists, but definately no "ravers." When we wanted to go to a party, we headed north to PDX. I think your "old-schoolers" are just trying to act cool because they've been "in the scene" for a year and you've only been in for a few months.

But don't fret that there are no candy kids. It's just "the in thing" to dis on candy kids these days, so I'm betting thats what everyone down there is doing. It's not because they are "old school." If you feel like being a candy kid, just do it and have fun. Don't worry about what everyone else thinks.

:) Chris :)

[ 05-15-2001: Message edited by: Enkidu Kind ]

[silly_lil_boi]

Originally posted by Vick_the_Vapor:
<STRONG>The only way you can help is to be extra nice to candy kids to try and counteract other people's oppression. Go out of your way to compliment, talk to and get to know the Candy Kids that are left. They are a treasure and they won't be around forever.

Keep Hope Alive!</STRONG>

Werd!

Peace
Adam

[boobookitty]

I lived in Ashland from 1992-1999 and I only had the opportunity to go to 2 parties while I lived down there. There just isn't a huge scene like in the larger cities. There probably are some kids there who have "grown out" of being candy kids but most likely the trend hasn't really hit yet. I don't think I knew anyone who defined themself as a "raver" or "candy kid" when I was there.

Be happy that parties are being held there! :D Go to them wearing your craziest candy, smile, be happy, be real and the flocks will follow. Set the trend if you need to and dispell the myth that all candy kids are "fill-in-the-blank".

[Enkidu Kind]

I agree booboo... There were a few events, but they were more hippie oriented and they were mostly outdoor. The techno was definately there, but I never went to a straight techno event in the Rogue Valley.

:) Chris :)

[AlexNUMB]

Candy Kids represent all that is wrong with this scene today. Drugged up cuddle piles full of people that love you, and will love you the next time they are on E...

bah.

[raelee]

I never try and judge anyone that raves with me now. Most of them call themselves old school ravers...I didn't give em that name they use it themselves. Thanks for all the feedback... Our scene is still pretty small but it's gettin bigger, however even with the growth the candi kid count stays the same. I think I know what I have to do...
Put on some neon swing suits and begin my transformation to becoming one of the few..the proud.. the fun.. a candi kid!

[auraspark]

i think its interesting how "ravers" complain about being stereotyped my the media and such, but then turn around and stereotype eachother. there are actually some candy kids who arent etards. come on people! thats not how we be nice :(


hey raelee, i was in Riddle a few weeks ago! ;)

[Roddimus]

Candy Kids represent all that is wrong with this scene today. Drugged up cuddle piles full of people that love you, and will love you the next time they are on E...
In many ways I agree with this statement. It's sad, but the majority of kandi kids out there (especially in Seattle) are 14 year old pill poppers.
Now I'll never pre-judge someone just 'cause their wearing some plastic jewelry. That completely defeats the main reason why I became involved in electronic music culture: understanding and tolerance.
I've met some very nice, intelligent and well rounded kandi kids in my day.
I've also met a lot of tweaked out teenagers with their eyes rolled back in their heads, barely able to form coherent sentences.
So I dunno. In the end it all depends on the community surrounding the kandi kid. If the culture is supportive and responsible, then it won't make much of a difference if a person wears braclets up to their elbows.
But I've found that the less a sense of community and the more jaded attitude the culture has, the less responsible the kandi kids end up being.
It's really easy for a bunch of jaded ravers to say 'BAH' anytime they see a kandi kid trying to have a good time. But they're just as responsible for the scene's state as the 14 year old tweakers.

[AliciaisAlwaysPimpin]

Well, if you guys want to get into some raver politics, most candy ravers i know are basically sober all the time. they are just naturally crazy. then there are the "newbie kids" who want to be "candy ravers" because "candy ravers" are all nice to the fucked up "newbies" therefore, the newbies want to be like a candy raver, so they wear thier bracelets try to be as candy like as possible. in conclusion i say candy kids are cool and newbies are almost always gonna "roll" thier way into the scene and become cool once they sober up a little, or roll thier way out of it (pun intended)

[Lyra]

:)

been a kandy kid for a few years now and still am. candy colours keep me happy, although some candy kids gets me sad, some gets me up and jumpin. Diversity is good, and there is definitive diversity within the "stereotypical" candyraver as well. I feel my colours represents the energy within me, and I wear different colours to represent different moods, or sometimes to remember good things that happened long ago (since I am no more in Seattle) It doesn't really matter that much, I do what I please. I have friends that laugh at candy-me. But it is still darn fun.

[Pun007]

Hey, Alicia! You makin' pun, I mean fun of my name? Hehe......

Just as long as peeps keep it real, I don't care what, or who they are......to me, you are either a cool person, or a lil' biotch....depending on how you come across to me. I always give everyone a chance......if you're a kandi-kid...GREAT! If you aren't....GREAT! But just remember.....KEEP IT RRRRRRRREAL!!!!

Pun :D

[kinetic]

To be honest, the "Candy" style is just a proggression of the old school "be as crazy as you want to be" style. Wasn't Fresh jive all about the COLOR.

Although I have never been much of a "crazy" raver, I remember my brother and his freinds always looking for the next crazy outfit to wear out. Cat in the Hat, Cheerleader a-go-go, and anything Flashy was how it had to be!!

Unfortunately what seems to have happened is the "uniform" has become "uniform".

And yes it does seem that most of the rolled out ravers are candy kids, but as Alicia so perfectly pointed out, when you first go to a "rave" you are looking for the outrageous!!!! That is how "we" and the media advertise it , right? so if you are coming to a place for your first wild experience then you are going to look for the wildest thing as your model for what a raver must look like.

And as Alicia also pointed out, most "true" candy kids are sober partiers. Their high comes from the fun of dressing up and getting groovey. For quite awhile our resident Candi Kids were non other than our beloved Scottie and Bonnie of
Ohana productions. These two couldn't be more sober if they tried. But we still saw them every weekend in home made furry pants, painted and jeweled up.

Candy is just what the crazy part of raving has come down to. Costumes are where it is at. It is time to get funky with our style again!!! Besides aren't we suppose to be the wild and crazy, fun loving group of society????

Time we started looking like it again!!

Melissa

[Layla]

I agree with Melissa --

Candy, costumes, fuzzy pants, shiny tops, etc are part of the fun. There really is no other place where you could get away with wearing it so why not. I also think it gets me in character to dance the way I do. I party sober, but still enjoy the colors in the blacklights and the shapes and lines I create with my "costume" and my dancing. It is all part of the experience as a whole. I love the kids who get into it with their own personal style of homemade candy, pants, etc...

We don't see anyone writing posts about "oh there's no ekho wear kids in my scene." I think candy (and other crazy stuff that we wear) is a way to let go of the stigma of style.

[EvulSpeakerGurl]

plur kids ;)

[digikitten]

Originally posted by i FoUnD iT By THe DriNKinG FoUnTiAn:
<STRONG>i think its interesting how "ravers" complain about being stereotyped my the media and such, but then turn around and stereotype eachother. there are actually some candy kids who arent etards. come on people! thats not how we be nice :( </STRONG>


dude! you fukin rock! way to make my point before i get to the thread! ;-)

kandie pride!

&lt;3 mindi

[AlexNUMB]

Candy ravers:

1. They look stupid
2. They act stupid
3. They are posers
4. They are disturbed


Comments:

1. They DO! You ever look at a candy kid? How stupid can one person look?

2. The proof of this is right here on this board... Find candy raver kids, and their handles are usually in the form of: RaInBoW BrItE! Their messages are inane and better suited for email (i.e. I LuB YoO SkItTlEs! I wIlL SeE YoU aT dA PaWtY!!!) Find 'em ini person and they generally carry on like 2 year olds.

3. Hmm... Let's look exactly the same!

4. They seem to be trying to hold on to some childhood nostalgia thing... refusing to grow up. The E has crippled their cognitave thinking to the point of regressing back to sucking on pacifiers... need I say more?

Oh and in my experience (7 years 400+ parties) The majority of Candy kids are not sober.

--Alex

[Gummy Hardcore]

yeah, i don't like to just follow the stereotypes but after tripping over countless etarded candy kids while i'm dancing, and they're trying to swim through the floor, it gets a little stupid. No, not all candy kids are etards, but the majority of candy kids are newbies (yeah, i know what it says next to my name on this board) and the majority of newbies seem to believe that a party is just a place to do drugs and sit on their asses all night. the beads aren't the problem, its just the association that comes with it, and so far i haven't seen much to change the persona. it isn't about drugs or fashion or drama. just music and partying!!! so lets go party dammit!!! :D

[Kosmicdog]

Originally posted by Velo:
[QB]

We don't see anyone writing posts about "oh there's no ekho wear kids in my scene." QB]

Maybe because you never see "eckho" type kids crawling around on the floor clutching tickle-me-elmos and begging for dollar bills
:p

[kizat]

hm... KANDIE KIDS RAWK!!!

thats all.

Plur guys!
Kat

[Gerhalt]

1. They look stupid

I'm curious as to what you mean by stupid. I don't believe someone can appear unintelligent by the clothes that they wear (although they can look stupid because you associate the clothes they're wearing with someone who wore similar clothes and was, in fact, stupid). I do not believe that any clothing can be intrinsically "stupid" unless you want to deem "stupid" anything other than nudity or clothes that provide only comfort and warmth.

2. They act stupid

In my experience and yours, they quite often do. Our experiences, however, do not equate to conclusive studies implicating stupidity upon anyone who dons a particular set of attire.

3. They are posers

Indeed. While at one time probably thought to be "original," candy is now a conformist garb. However, I believe almost everyone to be guilty of conformity in terms of clothing, at least in their own peer group.

Overall, I rather enjoy the presence of Candy Kids at parties. Their increasing scarcity has made them a commodity that actually increases diversity, despite the unfortunate manifestation of "the uniform."

Given an ultimatum of partaking in either the infantile behavior of the stereotypical Candy Kid or the equally myopic yet simultaneously cruel behavior of mocking them, I would choose the former.

[milgramShock]

Alex ...you are quite the example to be talking shit about people...... wow i am so impressed with you more and more, everytime you post or even when i see you at a party.....

HA my name is Alex and i have been to many....... no wait 7 years worth of 400+ parties ... so this makes you an expert on how to judge other people and how they work

So in my experience as a "party kid" I would have to say that the majority of the time i see you, you are smoking weed .... the last time i checked .... this is a drug too.... thus that would make you NOT SOBER...

alex has done nothing but bitch about how other people act and dress and how stupid they are and look in his posts....

They DO! You ever look at a candy kid? How stupid can one person look?
i don't think any more than you, alex

The proof of this is right here on this board... Find candy raver kids, and their handles are usually in the form of: RaInBoW BrItE! Their messages are inane and better suited for email (i.e. I LuB YoO SkItTlEs! I wIlL SeE YoU aT dA PaWtY!!!) Find 'em ini person and they generally carry on like 2 year olds.

maybe it is you that just thinks like a two year old.....

you see i don't have a problem with candy kids or party kids or whatever, because at least they are having fun in life "or the majority of them" live a little Alex, go out a do something different and exciting, like not complaining about anybody that is not directly affecting or harming you.... there is no scene life in all is a scene..... you all try to support this sense of community and then turn around and make fun of candy ravers..... are they not part of the "scene"?
no hugs and kisses here buddy i am just letting you know how unproductive you are alex and the people that are agreeing with him.......
its like you all are better drug takers than these kids that you genralize.
nobody is the same. everyone is different.

if you people got so many problems with the kids that are just sitting on the floor taking drugs, then heres a hint: Grow some fucking balls and tell them about it!!! Tell them that they are annoying and they are in the way......
nobody talks to each other in real life anymore....everyone is afraid of eachother....

and to realee, the true kids are the ones that care about the things that matter.....
candy is just fun.
i dont wear it, .......anymore ;)
-paddy

[ 05-18-2001: Message edited by: milgramShock ]

[raelee]

In my opinion, however much it means to anyone of you, is no one should be judged by there own personal intake of drugs or by the clothes they wear. Everyone does what the do for there own personal reasons. I despise personal attacks on people. Negativity only brings unhappiness your way ya know. I don't know about the rest of the world, but in my experiences at raves I have found candi kids to be the least judgemental, most fun, and definitly most down to earth. I love when people don't care about social status, or whether or not you are holding a gucci bag. Raving to me is my home away from home and candi kids are like my brothers and sisters. I am there for the music and for the acceptance. I think everyone who is concerned with anything else should really take a step back and realize they have no right to steal anyone's sunshine!PLUR BABY !

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by AlexNUMB:
<STRONG>
2. The proof of this is right here on this board... Find candy raver kids, and their handles are usually in the form of: RaInBoW BrItE! Their messages are inane and better suited for email (i.e. I LuB YoO SkItTlEs! I wIlL SeE YoU aT dA PaWtY!!!) Find 'em ini person and they generally carry on like 2 year olds.
--Alex</STRONG>

lol..

[ZupanGOD]

I suppose I should greatfull that we don't have a candy problem here..

-Zupan

[AlexNUMB]

Alex ...you are quite the example to be talking shit about people...... wow i am so impressed with you more and more, everytime you post or even when i see you at a party.....

Thanks! I'm a tough act to follow. Why don't you come introduce yourself sometime? I dunno who you are...

HA my name is Alex and i have been to many....... no wait 7 years worth of 400+ parties ... so this makes you an expert on how to judge other people and how they work

Yes, actually, it does. Experience means a hell of a lot more than some fuzzy ideals, I'm afraid. Let's make a simple analogy: In your career, you gain experience by being on the job... the longer you are on that job, the more you have seen and done, the more experienced you are, hence the more qualifies you are to comment on things. So Yeah, I do feel qualified to state my opinions on the whole "Candy" genre.

Oh, btw-- Candy Kids tend to really like Happy Hardcore also... Sterotype, I know... but one based on years of observations.

So in my experience as a "party kid" I would have to say that the majority of the time i see you, you are smoking weed .... the last time i checked .... this is a drug too.... thus that would make you NOT SOBER...

Yessir... I'mma big ol' pothead... How does this relate to the discussion? You merely want to attack me personally, there are much better things to try to insult me about. :)


i don't think any more than you, alex


As always, stupidity is in the eye of the beholder.

maybe it is you that just thinks like a two year old.....

Quite possibly... But lacking empirical data on how a two year old thinks, I would go so far as to say I think like a responsible 23 year old who does have a slight problem with the way appearances make our scene look to outsiders. *shrug*

if you people got so many problems with the kids that are just sitting on the floor taking drugs, then heres a hint: Grow some fucking balls and tell them about it!!! Tell them that they are annoying and they are in the way......
nobody talks to each other in real life anymore....everyone is afraid of eachother....

Agreed. Come talk to me face to face... you obviously got some deep seated issues with me.

Raelee--

In my opinion, however much it means to anyone of you, is no one should be judged by there own personal intake of drugs or by the clothes they wear.

I tend to agree with you... each person should be judged based on their own strengths or faults... However, personal experience has given me a few prejudices against the entire candy-genre. It's little things... Catching kids wearing candy stealing video tapes... having a candy kid knock over equipment at shows... various other problems I have had. *shrug*

So yeah... cutting to the chase. I have, in my experience, seen enought to justify my initial statements. They are my opinions, and you can take them or leave them as you see fit. :)

--Alex

[milgramShock]

your genralized statements about a group of kids that you have had personal experiences with, contain an essence of "naziish" ideals.

I brought up the pot smoking on you part to show you that you are doing the same thing ... you are making judgment calls and calling someone disturbed by there habits of drug...but you turn around a take a big hit off your glass pipe.....
thus i am saying that you are putting someone down for there drug use, but are you not a drug user?.... Its like someone that does coke telling someone that they should quit doing heroin....
quit you own before you tell someone that they are stupid for doing what they do....

Quite possibly... But lacking empirical data on how a two year old thinks, I would go so far as to say I think like a responsible 23 year old who does have a slight problem with the way appearances make our scene look to outsiders. *shrug*

does getting high with pot look any better to "outsiders" than doing any other drug?....

and no i do not have any deep seated issues with you, i just think that you are telling a group of people that genrally they are all bad and stupid when you really dont know other than your couple of experiences.... like i said everyone is different... and you can't make a call on them based on a couple of expereinces....
ethier way you are right ..they are you opinions and you are entitled to them
i just urge you to go and meet some people before you make judgements upon many that look like them or act like them.....
but now i have said it twice and if someone still argues that it is okay to judge someone ...then i think you have the problem ......

whatever
people think too little and talk to much behind thier computer screens.....
-paddy

[Kosmicdog]

[QUOTE]does getting high with pot look any better to "outsiders" than doing any other drug?....
QUOTE]


Yes.

[milgramShock]

why ?
how does it look any better ....drugs are drugs.... they all destroy your ability to think, or make intelligent decisions......
they may not all do as fast as others but ethier way drugs are bad .... they help us all to be dumber than any other thing .... half of all our problems in this scene are related to drugs.......

whatever

[Enkidu Kind]

I don't really think it's fair to blame all the ills of the party scene on candy kids. I admit they irritate me sometimes too, but I used to be kinda candy myself. Therefore who am I to judge? Who are you to judge, Alex? I'm sorry some candy kids stole your video. I'm sorry some candy kids knocked over your equipment. But because these kids are rotten eggs, does it make them all rotten? If you are as experienced and have your finger on the pulse of the scene like you claim to, I would think you would exercise more tolerance and acceptance. Isn't that that one of the flagstones of the rave scene in the first place? A place free from discrimination, harsh generalizations and judgemental assholes?

I don't want to start another flame war with you. If you choose to respond, please leave the insults behind. Note that I didn't insult you once.

:) Chris :)

[raelee]

LEGALIZE IT

[OpheliaDream]

REAL RAVERS??????????

What the Fuckin Christ?!?!?!

Just because we don't get all happy and plurred out and deck ourselves up in eight tons of candy, are we not considered to be "real ravers?"

Ergh. Fucker.

[raelee]

Let me clarify.... I did not mean to make any judgements on who is and who is not a real raver.... I don't understand all the negativity? I was just commenting and sharing my thoughts on my situation and and asking for some help to increase the number of candi kids in my scene. I love my scene and all the people in it. DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY WEAR. I just happen to dig what the candi kids bring to my scene. I am not a candi kid either, so wouldn't it be hypacritical of me to say that no one is a real raver unless they dress up? Please don't take what I say and twist it. I got love for all who rave... I just want some more glowing people at my parties for pete's sake....gimme a little break, I got love for you too. :)

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by raelee:
[QB]I don't understand all the negativity? I was just commenting and sharing my thoughts on my situation and and asking for some help to increase the number of candi kids in my scene. I love my scene and all the people in it. DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY WEAR.[/QB\

I suppose it stems from the fact that the aspects of the scene involves actions of adults. Teletubbie backpacks, color beads, pacifiers, etc.. bring a childish element to something that involves adults. When the two are fused together not only does it give the impression that people are getting younger and younger in the scene, but to me it goes against what the scene was all about in the first place which it was an escape to us who didn't want to dress a certain way to be in a part of some group or fad, it was about individuality, people who did dress up in the ole days were dressed different than the next guy... I cannot remember a "raver look", shit I remember just wearing a plain no-fear t-shirt and jeans, nobody knew you were involved in any scene, it was truly amazing to have conversations with people who have no apperance to give you a stereotype or pre-determination that they were a raver, or anything for that matter.

I suppose for people that have a hard time being an individual, being a candy raver gives you an identity, or a part of something that you may have not found in yourself.

Just an observation..
-Zupan

[bungle bliss]

I suppose I should greatfull that we don't have a candy problem here..

I know right. I am from south Florida, and I didn't see my first candy kid until a couple of years after I started partying...I was at a party and did a double take... "whoa, what the hell is that?"

So I ended up giving her a ride home. She was nice. She went through my cd's. "Oh! You have the new Trip Theory! Can I borrow it?"

me: "Well, no, I just met you."

kandy-person: "But I really want to tape the Roll Song!"

me: "sorry dude"

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by bungle bliss:
<STRONG>I know right. I am from south Florida, and I didn't see my first candy kid until a couple of years after I started partying...I was at a party and did a double take... "whoa, what the hell is that?"

So I ended up giving her a ride home. She was nice. She went through my cd's. "Oh! You have the new Trip Theory! Can I borrow it?"

me: "Well, no, I just met you."

kandy-person: "But I really want to tape the Roll Song!"

me: "sorry dude"</STRONG>

Yeah.. no doubt.. I don't have my issues with the people individually, I just don't like how that fad refelects on the scene altogether. I too did a double take when I saw one here in FL, I thought it was some West Coast thing only.. but I guess it made it's way over here.. interesting to me is that if some of these kids realized the origins of a candy raver they might think twice in it all.. but I suppose it's lost it's roots by now.. so it's pointless for me to still refer the candy look to what it was originaly.

-Zupan

[ 05-19-2001: Message edited by: ZupanGOD ]

[AlexNUMB]

Blah blah blah blah...

Look kids, it's plain and simple.

I don't like how candy kids look, dress, and act. I don't have to justify why I feel that way to anyone on the board. That is the way I feel.

Sorry I ever spoke up in the first place. I'll go back to quietly kicking water bottles at their heads. :)

--Alex

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by AlexNUMB:
<STRONG>Blah blah blah blah...

Look kids, it's plain and simple.

I don't like how candy kids look, dress, and act. I don't have to justify why I feel that way to anyone on the board. That is the way I feel.

Sorry I ever spoke up in the first place. I'll go back to quietly kicking water bottles at their heads. :)

--Alex</STRONG>

No need to get a upset.. I was just saying if Candy kids knew the background a little better they would think twice about supporting it. It's like celebrating St. Patricks day without knowing who St. Patrick is.

-Zupan

[digikitten]

Originally posted by AlexNUMB:
<STRONG>Candy ravers:

2. They act stupid

Comments:

2. The proof of this is right here on this board... Find candy raver kids, and their handles are in the form of: RaInBoW BrItE! Their messages are inane and better suited for email (i.e. I LuB YoO SkItTlEs! I wIlL SeE YoU aT dA PaWtY!!!) Find 'em in person and they generally carry on like 2 year olds.
</STRONG>


YaY! f0r Pe0pLe Wh0 d0n'T lIkE kAnDiE kIdS !!! We'rE wAy t00 c0oL f0r y0u aNyh0w. d00d...cAn y0u beLiEvE hE sAiD tHaT ?!? lIkE omg!

bUt mY p0iNt wAs g0iNg t0 bE tHat i'M a t0tAl kAnDiE kId, mY nIcK d0eSn'T fIt y0uR dEsCrIpTi0n aNd nEiThEr d0 i. bUt i gUeSs tHeRe aRe eXcEpTi0nS t0 EvErY rUlE, hUh AlEx? 0r mAyBe tHe eXcEpTi0n IS thE rUlE.

wHoDa tHuNk....

(and that all took an insanely long time to type.)

i LuB y0u aLl...
&lt;3 mIndI

roffle

[digikitten]

&lt;&lt;just a note to alex...i wasn't trying to be rude with that post, i was just having fun...&gt;&gt;

[raelee]

Why do we have to kick anything at anyone's head? Geezus I thought raves were about acceptance of all differences. Give me a little break. When you guys stop falling into the GAP then maybe you can catorgorize people! PLUR !!!!

[Dj_FourKourse]

What ever happened to the scene? I thought that a rave was a place to go and forget problems, and not think of new ones to bring up, such as focusing on "candy ravers", they like the music just as much as anyone else, the dj's, the promoters, and the "standard club gear kidz", well, It just seems retarded to me to try to make some look retarded for being themselves, let the beat thrive in the soul of who ever wants to be a part, shit, I've seen cowboys at raves, and it was probably the coolest thing I've ever seen, seein a cowboy dance to a beat thrown down by Dj Dan. C'mon what's the big deal... I think some people are forgeting what it's all about. Well, I got the anwser for the confused, Focus on the MUSIC. Making Friends, not bashing the ones you don't UNDERSTAND. Try it. I bet the old felling comes back :rolleyes:

[XxbambooxX]

Just wanted too say some Kandie kids are the cutest people =)

some people on this board can be so quick too jump too conclusions(which is part of being cocky)such as assuming candy kits mean they're e tards.Wear what you want too wear,its about being yourself and being unique.

They laugh cause iam different,but i laugh cause they're all the same

[CraxyInside]

CANDI RaVERS SUCK!

Come on, they look dumb, act dumb. I consider them to be at the bottem of the social scale in the rave scene.

It's like when some one is new to the rave scene the first thing they do is dress up in 'candi' to conform and 'fit in'. It totally exposes there newbieness/poserness.

So in effect they are at the bottom of the social scale in the rave scene.

BOTTOM.

Yet they make up 70% of the rave scene.
It's the pyrimid sceme. A few trueschoolers at the top and all the candi retards on the bottom.

Losers.

[raelee]

Who is to judge who is at the top and who at the bottom of a scale that does not exist. We are each on this planet looking for something to grasp onto. Everyone finds peace through expression whether it be art music,playdough, or style. I say dress how every you want. Don't knock it till you can truly rock it baby!!!

[AlexNUMB]

Shut up ya god damn candy kid... :rolleyes:

[CraxyInside]

Yeah I'm a bitch.

I don't really hate candi kids. I just feel like talking shit.

[raelee]

Dude, I am not a candi kid. Even though they get nothing but props from me. You gosta cause drama, cause personality starvation keeps you from making true friends. So go ahead say what ya want to say. After all if it wasn't for entertainment why would I answer negative posts? I love you all and plur !

[AlexNUMB]

OK fine, just shut up then. sheesh. :rolleyes:

[raelee]

*~smooches for Alex~*

[CraxyInside]

Oh and another rant! I FUCKING HATE THE WORD PLUR! It is the MOST MORONIC and RETARDED 'catch phrase' ever!

I mean "PLUR"??? What the FUCK!!!
IT SOUNDS SOOOOOOOOOOOOO DUMB.

and it's a cheep excape for people who don't know shit.

Yeah fuck your PLUR retard!

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by raelee:
<STRONG>Who is to judge who is at the top and who at the bottom of a scale that does not exist. We are each on this planet looking for something to grasp onto. Everyone finds peace through expression whether it be art music,playdough, or style. I say dress how every you want. Don't knock it till you can truly rock it baby!!!</STRONG>


Interesting enough, no successfull DJ/Producer sports the candy look. Maybe their is a reason why..

-Zupan

[cherry poptart]

oh grow up kiddies and give up thinking that everybody needs to look and act just like you. I, personally, find it quite entertaining watching candykid antics... almost as fun as listening to Alex's rantings... :rolleyes:

[raelee]

Man there is no winning with you people. I am not a retard, or an etard. I don't really care what dj's are wearing, or the producers,or the party goers. I think its sad how everyone tries to rip on everyone. Why do you have to trip on Plur? What is so wrong with peace love unity and respect? You all need to check yourself. Life is lived through love or your never alive in the first place. Plur times infinity !!! :)

[glowstickness]

i think this whole old-school raver thing is kinda getting out of hand. i've been going for a few years now and i noticed that the new trend is to bash everything you used to do. some people may think i'm a e*tard cus i like glowsticks but the fact is glowsticks are just fun to me they look cool just like you look cool when you're dancing. candi ravers are expressing themselves in the way they like to do it. come on people i thought this was what the whole scene is about. i mean there is some people out there who roll total balls and look way stupid and thats not cool cus when people get out of control problems happen and it makes us all look bad, but all kinds of people do this jus because your a candi kid doesn't mean your an e*tard. thats what this whole old-school thing is about it's people hate things that have to do with getting messed up. don't judge people because the way they dress judge them by action. as the saying goes action speak louder than words, well action speak louder than clothes(no matter how loud the clothes).

[Dj_FourKourse]

Try this theory, " LIVE AND LET DIE" I don't think I really need to say anymore than that.

[TrixieUW]

DOOD! PLUR, man! Jesus! I used to be a kandykid. Now I'm a jaded ass junglistic breakbeat bitch. So what? Doesn't mean I still don't love my kandy! Nope, I don't wear it anymore, 'cept maybe one or two for luck now and then, but it doesn't mean I'm gonna run around and dis on the kandykids.

True, a lot of them are 'tarded to all hell and are running around spreading the vicks and toys and beads and glowy stuff, but so what? Hell, that's what got me into partying. Yes, I was born a MASSIVE KID. Went to a "rave" because it seemed neat - a friend visiting from Colorado wanted to go. So we went. I took E. I got REALLY high. I puddled all night and got my first to kandies. I made out with some boy that I really regret ever even coming within 10 feet of. Ah well.

So I got off to a rocky start. But I thought, "Gee, this is kinda neat." I was there for the drugs and the nice people. Everybody seemed nice to me - I was reeeeeeally high at the time. Oh well. It was fun. So then I started bringing toys and glowies and making/trading kandy (I still have over 300 and over $800 worth of unused beads). Learned that the music was pretty damned good, too. Got hooked on dancing and the toys and glowies and stuff went away, but the kandy took longer.

Dropping the kandy took a lot of jungle and a lot of bad luck all at once to make me jaded enough to not wear kandy. But I had a good reason - I didn't want to contaminate my kandy with the bad vibes I was throwing off. But by the time my vibes got good again it just didn't feel right to wear it anymore. Sad, but true. But I still love it. It makes people happy, and it brings people together. I miss the kandy krew. Just one of us (about 10 participating kidz in the kandy krew from our klique) still wears even a little.

I don't think I can ever really be a kandykid again, except at heart (or maybe if I end up at a happyhardcore party), but I think this summer I'm using all my freakin beads, making a shit-ton of kandy and making sure that at every party I go in with 20 and leave with nothing. Spread the love! I started out as nothin but a tard, but I happen to think that I'm a pretty cool partykid now. So if you see a tarded kandykid that's just trying to spread a nasty case of Pluritis and a good vibe, don't shoot em down, be a good influence and show them:

--How to be a well-rounded partykid, not just a kandykid.--

It took a while, but enough people showed me the door and I stepped through. Show a potentially awesome "raver" the way to being an outstanding partykid and a benefit to the scene. And they can do that with their kandy on.

[Kosmicdog]

Yay!!! *Klap klap klap*

[kinetic]

TrixieUW you are rad!!!!

I love stories like that.

You win the "raver with the most heart" award today!

Thank you for sharing your love for the community. Kandi or not!

Melissa

smile at someone today. you'll make two people happy.

[ice143]

Are your friends in the scene to exchange candi, and focus the whole seen on being stuck in a e-puddle, or do they go for the music and like to use the candi as just something to catch eyes. The scene is for the music not for the candi-unless your scene is different.

no hard feelings-much love-
ice :rolleyes:

[SPINtEk]

The DJ is the God at the party. He/she doesn't wear kandi. Thats just my take on it. But if you wanna wear kandi, then wear it, but just because you're wearing it doesn't mean thats the reason you ended up in a cuddle puddle or knocked over someones equipment. I dont wear kandi myself but everyone's the same, just in a different disguise.

[raelee]

~~~~~~~~ W E R D ~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Enkidu Kind]

This whole "who's on the top/who's on the bottom" theory about the rave scene really disturbs me. I know it's idealistic to say this, but there is no reason to draw class lines in the party scene. We all go for the same reason; to have fun. I don't really give a shit who's old-school, who's a newbie, who's a candykid, or who's a jaded breaks junkie.

If you're dancing, respecting others, and having a good time then you're cool in my book.

The only people who are tearing this scene apart are the people who get insanely fucked up on drugs and the people who are professional haters. We all know the consequenses of a drug-addled party life. The big sleep, yo. As for the haters, you and your "holier than thou" attitude puts a sour taste in more mouths than a few happy-go-lucky candykids. I know the word "PLUR" is a silly catchphrase with little authentic meaning, but the idea behind the word should be common sense. Peace Love Unity Respect. How hard is that to figure out?

:) Chris :)

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by ice143:
<STRONG>Are your friends in the scene to exchange candi, and focus the whole seen on being stuck in a e-puddle, or do they go for the music and like to use the candi as just something to catch eyes. The scene is for the music not for the candi-unless your scene is different.

no hard feelings-much love-
ice :rolleyes:</STRONG>


No Candy here.. so I guess it is different.

;)

[raelee]

I just want to say thank you for all your replies. Everyone's opinion is worth something. I love it all !! I love you all !!
Once again, ladies and gentlemen.....PLUR !!

[digikitten]

Originally posted by TrixieUW:
<STRONG>be a good influence and show them:

--How to be a well-rounded partykid, not just a kandykid.--

It took a while, but enough people showed me the door and I stepped through. Show a potentially awesome "raver" the way to being an outstanding partykid and a benefit to the scene. And they can do that with their kandy on.</STRONG>

hey trixie - you rock. thanks for telling a story. and they CAN do that with their candy on. i know i am. (never a tard, but always a kandiekid)

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by Grand MastaH Enkidu:
<STRONG>This whole "who's on the top/who's on the bottom" theory about the rave scene really disturbs me. I know it's idealistic to say this, but there is no reason to draw class lines in the party scene. We all go for the same reason; to have fun. :)</STRONG>


The lines are drawn becuase people are their for different reasons.

-Zupan

[TrixieUW]

Just a wee little thought... The scene is for the music not for the candi-unless your scene is different.

No flames, please, this is just a mental note...

I was thinking, since all us "ravers" look so alike, it makes it one big huge task to find a friend in a party sometimes. And I thought it was a heck of a lot easier to find my kandy krew kidz when we wore kandy. So maybe we are there to socialize a little - aren't we all? And hey, at least with kandy we find each other a lot faster so we aren't bumping and wandering into those who are dancing and bustin grooves. It's a different kind of appreciation for the music, but it's an appreciation nonetheless.

Trixie

[Charismatic1]

I'm a candi kid and it does suck that the population has died down. NO one to trade with :( But what I hate is that I always get shit for being a candi kid. I don't give you shit about being a junglist, or a lover of happy hardcore, etc etc. So why should I get crap for liking to wear candi? I don't know where all the candi kids went but I think it's becaue everyone started bashing us so a lot of them quit because they fell into the whole "must fit in" mind. But whatever...I'll be a candi kid FOREVER!!

Charisma

[Bunny]

I couldn't resist.

I listen to jungle. I'm listening to it right now in fact. I love idm, breaks and dnb too. And you know what else? I wear candy. Oh, a ton of it sometimes. Only a little sometimes. None sometimes. And the only drug I really do at parties anymore is nicotine (and a lot of it ;) ).

Raelee if you want more candykids, invite them down from Portland and Eugene when you go up there. Make them feel welcome when they are here. And make a bunch of candy and pass it out. It's easy.

I haven't heard anyone claim to be oldschool down here. Maybe some kids that've moved up or down from wherever, but really the first "rave" I remember being around here was in like 96-97. My friend Spencer threw it at SOU (then SOSC). It was called the Dave Rave and there were little pictures of David Letterman all over the place. He brought the idea up from L.A. when he lived there.

I think there are a good number of candykids around...you just gotta look for 'em. And sometimes being a candykid isn't about how many glowing bracelets you've got on...it's about just being a nice person and diggin' all the crazy shit going on.

How's that?

[raelee]

Bunny, your optomism never ceases to amaze me. Maybe I need to open my eyes a little more! I love our scene so much.... I want everything for it... So this is why I say more candi more candi more....I will make some bracelets for this weekend, and you are first on the list to recieve one. Much love sister.... Danielle

[raelee]

Is it true that the banned glowsticks in Florida because of candi kids? Too sad...

[SunshineGirlie]

welp, just wanna say that i have much love for everyone... i'm a kandie kid, but i dont go all out... i like the colors and the cute/bright t-shirts, and its fun to trade braclets with other people... and ya know, i'm gonna agree with some of you, and say that yes, a lot of kandie kids are newbies that are there for the drugs (perhaps not solely, but partially)... i never went for the drugs, and i party sober, or i roll sometimes.. it all depends on my moods and how i'm feelin at that moment... but parties are all about the MUSIC, and if you cant go and feel it without being fucked up on something, you shouldnt be there.. if you just want to do drugs, go in your basement or something, cause a partie isnt your place. and like i said before, i dont have any problems with anyone, and i hope no one ever has a problem with me... i'm just living in the moment, and trying to have fun... i hope everyone else can overcome those they dont like and just partie because you have an awesome love for the music and the vibe... we shouldnt have to care what everyone else is doing, or what everyone else is like/what their wearing/etc... it would make everything a whole lot easier on everyone if we just decided to spread the love (and if you cant do that, then at least not care about all the shit i said before)... be who you are, and dont let someone tell you different... its your own life... live it for yourself.

*desiree*


oh and alex.. just curious... were you at sexist? if so, i think i may have met you.. unless you werent there... heh... just wondering.. :)

[Vick_the_Vapor]

This thread should have ended with TrixieUW's post.

There is a point in time in everything where the ending occurs. Anything after it is a waste of time and energy, like beating a dead horse.

WERD to TrixieUW for bringing a complete ending to a wonderful thread. I enjoyed it. :D :D :D

[Charismatic1]

I don't know why the candi population has died down. It is pretty sad because I'm a candi kid and I miss my candi kid friends. But I can't make people wear candi if they don't want to. But why do we get prosecuted because we do? I don't freak out when I find out other people are junglists or something. I don't get why candi kids are so targeted for discrimination. It sux but my candiness is in no rush to die out. Hopefully I'll see more of you candi kids out there.

Charisma

[PixieStar]

:eek: that makes me so sad- the party scene is turning into a bunch of high school drama- too bad i go to parties to get away from that... and to dance, but i think you can't really change what's happening, you just have to see what's good in the scene.
grrrr!

[What Up Mahvi]

My first party was in Eugene at Mattie's family's salon. The building was cleared of equipment, revealing the fully mirrored perimeter, and the entire space was blacklit. The party was off the hook, with a good vibe. These elements combined to create magical images that are etched in my memory. It was a beautiful vision, like a dream. The whole roomful of people was moving in unison to phat beats, as if hovering in flight. Everything glowed and was warm and fuzzy. All around us, and off into infinity, it glowed. I am addicted to that glow, both in my mind and in my heart. There was feeling of oneness and family that we all experienced. That night inspired me, because I discovered what being a CandiKid is really about. It doesen't matter if I'm decked out and blinking or wearing drab street clothes, the glow is there... my spirit, burning bright.

[Headphones Dude]

Yup, like I said Full Bloom, we've got a file on you.....

[~full*bloom~]

you are boring me..... ha ha you are lame.

[Star_Dancer]

Originally posted by Headphones Dude
Yup, like I said Full Bloom, we've got a file on you.....

sometimes I feel like... somebody's watching meeeeeeeee

[~full*bloom~]

Ya know what is really funny..... When I saw this thread up, I thought to myself..."oh gawd who is the idiot who started this?" Yep, I shall admit that idiot was me. Die Candi Kids Die. Oh by the way you guys should open the file where I give you both a hard donkey punch to your serotinin depleted mellons.

[Headphones Dude]

Oh gee, what post is that?? :rolleyes: