would you rent this venue for $300

[yeshua prod.]

he is a small scale model of a dome Im thinking about building and renting out- just wondering if anyone would be interested? Id have to charge $300 a night to do it for the following reasons


1.it would take 4 people 2 hrs to set up
2.it would take up an entire back of a pickup or van to transport

it would be 32ft in diameter and 16ft tall it would hold my sound and about 200 people

click here for the pic

http://communities.msn.com/lethaltrancefusion/rave.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=116

[angry_bob]

I like the little cut-out guy... ;)

[yeshua prod.]

my email is lethaltrancefusion@hotmail.com

another option would be for us to build them and sell them

[Jeremy Kayne]

If it were about twice that size, I would rent it.

[The Dowlz]

If you build it, they will come. Or at least im down. Hit me up when you finish building and we'll have a par-tay. dowlznick@yahoo.com

[kitty wu]

where would it go though?

k

[EuroTrash]

I like it, I think it would definately work at the outdoor parties and such. The $300 dollars though is pretty steep for a lot of the smaller promoters but I'm sure you can attract some of the larger ones. Maybe after it pays for itself you can then consider lowering the price, I'm sure most promoters that would have you at their party would gladly help with the setup and take down, possibly even the transportation. But anything that adds more music and culture into a party is a good thing.

[MarQ]

keep in mind that sound in a dome is going to be odd, you will have all sorts of phase cancelation issues to work out. its a cool idea, just for comparison what would a tent cost to rent?

[jullian]

Tents are pretty cheap to rent. For instance I can have a 20' x 40' (800 sq ft) delivered / setup in PDX for about $250.00.

Jullian

[yeshua prod.]

you can put it anywhere you want-

a tent why would you rent a tent when you can get a dome for not much more?
-for one you would be completely shielded from all weather conditions

you could not make it any bigger because - are you goin to setup this thing being 32ft tall? doesnt sound like fun to me

the price being $300 is because it would take 4 people about 2 hrs to setup and plus take down is more time- not anyone could set this up- if a bolt is too tight or not tight enough that makes the whole thing weeker

----could you throw an outdoor event in the winter with a tent? Image 3 of these at Naf outside instead of freezing to death and standing by those heaters in febuary

[Just Jim]

That dome is SiCk

[LyncHung]

Originally posted by MarQ
keep in mind that sound in a dome is going to be odd, you will have all sorts of phase cancelation issues to work out.

MarQ is right, you'd need to get a good quality Phaser and Reverb hooked up on preamp to get any good quality out of it. And those are gonna cost you money so you need to make sure that you can get enough people to rent it to break even.

Another thing is that it's really small, 200 people in there would be PACKED!!! I'd say make it a little bigger, and make it so that you could also open it up a little so it's not all enclosed, which would be really good for like at NAF.

You don't want to charge too much because no one will want to rent it, but you don't want to charge to little because you'll lose money. If you figure 200 people can fit in there max (and that would be PACKED TIGHT) and unless they rented it for use at a larger party (like NAF) then there's not gonna be 200 people in there, more around 100 at a time, prolly 150-200 over the course of the night. For small parties like that its not going to be any more than $10 a person so figure it out and thats only around $2000 for the night at the most. Take away 300 for the dome rental, over 300 for flyers, say a bare minimum of 300 total for the payment for DJs, payment for everyone helping out and for the permits. Add it up and you've got very little profit, if any at all because there's no guarantee that that many people will show up for such a small party.

All in all, it's a good idea, but it just needs some changes to make it better. I'd say hold off on building it until you're sure you can make some money off of it.

[yeshua prod.]

200 people would give each person 3 cubic ft square and I would expect this to be for an outside addition to a bigger party and I cant image needing something bigger at naf

as far as sound problems I cant image having any problems with that considering the materials its made from this is not the tacoma dome

[A D I D A S]

Originally posted by acid fire
200 people would give each person 3 cubic ft square

LMAO!

I assume u meant "3 square feet of floor space" (?)

or do u plan on making people curl up into a fetal position (3 cubic feet) and stack them neatly inside the dome?

*rofl* thats a great mental image there....

[yeshua prod.]

Originally posted by A D I D A S



or do u plan on making people curl up into a fetal position (3 cubic feet) and stack them neatly inside the dome?



I never thought of that........Ill have to recalculate

[LyncHung]

it really isn't gonna matter what kind of materials you use, you're still gonna have a lot of reverb & some cancellation issues with that small of an enclosed area, esspecially if it's a dome, that makes it even worse. Also remember that with that low of a ceiling on it, the sides are going to start to come in kinda steep and thats gonna cut down on a lot of space on the sides (unless you plan on renting it out to midgets or little kids). That also means that the DJ stage is going to have to be moved pretty far towards the center of the dome and that's just going to cut down more space for dancers. Another thing with a dome that short is that you might want to be carful about there being too much weight on the top, when you build a dome you want it to be a PERFECT cutout of half of a ball (if that makes any sense) in order to get the best structural integrity. It doesn't matter how strong everything is, or how light the materials you use. If it's not built AND constructed just right, its not going to take too long for it to fall apart and collapse on you, esspeccially when you got a lot of bass vibrating the whole structure!! Like I said before, it's a good idea, but you really need to plan this out more. You will HAVE TO talk to some PROFFESSIONAL builders and architects to be sure you're not building a death trap. And also talk to some proffessional audio technicians about the reverb problems and the intensity of the vibrations on the structure from the bass.

-Chris
(DJ LyncHung)

[yeshua prod.]

take a look at the small figure in the pic.....no does it look like he can stand almost right next to the wall inside or is it just me?

is 16ft a low cieling? we could put the dj on a platform above the sound in the middle of the dome and still have plenty of head room

and as far as it being a death trap- Ive already thought of all these things

[JiMiNi]

To me the dome thing kind of defeats the purpose of having an outdoor show in the first place. The attraction of an outdoor event is being in nature under the night sky... wich you don't get very well in a dome. And it's compleatly uneconomical for use as the main building because you would be paying $300 + $100 or more for renting the land your putting it on and for $100 to $300 you can get a building with 1 large main room or a few small rooms and plumbing. At least that's been my experiance. The building we usualy use is $100 + $100 cleaning deposit and it can handle a show of 300 kids comfortably. All the critisim aside I DO think a dome would make for an awesome venue. It has many lighting effects possibilities. So if you can figure a way to make it more economical the idea does have potential.

[maxxpower23]

www.pacificdomes.com

check the real deal
i say a 60 ft teknodome
awww yeah :cool:

[yeshua prod.]

http://www.pacificdomes.com/domes/30ft.html

Id have to say thats pretty cool the link above is slightly smaller than ours would be and it looks pretty big but for $6,600

Assembly time: 10 hours with a crew of 4 (double your first time).

now I say how could you possibly complain about paying $300 a night for that? I think I might have to think about this......especially if it takes that long to set up

[Kosmicdog]

http://www.pacificdomes.com/

These are fucking dope.

*contemplates purchasing land and building a dome*

[yeshua prod.]

And for the dome, you gotta be nuts!! $6600 for a 30ft. dome? Also, they estimate 40 hours of labor to assemble the thing. Maybe if my 4 man crew was the Kriya Yoga class in their pictures, and we were all taking hits off a gravity bong between bolts we may be able stretch it out to 10 hours. If you're wanting to spend $6600, I could build an absolutely massive dome.
When you are totally certain that you want to build this thing, let me know and I'll get all the details squared away, but just so that you know, I've spent many hours going over the engineering, and there are no problems.

[Just Jim]

a couple of years ago me and some other promoters were talking about how cool a dome tent would be. I am Sure that their would be a demand if it was around. Just think.... 360 visuals!

[maxxpower23]

jim, that's the best part of the dome idea. hemisphere of projection screen. sick.

[Just Jim]

No shit... you could overlay many projections...

[rayman]

Hell ya I would like that!:cool: