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Effendi
11-21-2001, 01:35 PM
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PORTLAND, Oregon (AP) -- Portland police have refused a U.S. Justice Department request for help in interviewing Middle Eastern immigrants as part of its sweeping terrorism investigation, saying it would violate state law.

Attorney General John Ashcroft announced earlier this month that the Justice Department had distributed a list of 5,000 men it wanted to interview about the September 11 terrorist attacks, an effort that has been widely criticized by civil rights groups.

The U.S. Attorney's Office in Portland asked city police for cooperation last week, acting police chief Andrew Kirkland said Tuesday. The request was denied because Oregon law says no one can be questioned by police unless they are suspected of being involved in a crime, he said.

"The law says, generally, we can interview people that we may suspect have committed a crime," Kirkland said. "But the law does not allow us to go out and arbitrarily interview people whose only offense is immigration or citizenship, and it doesn't give them authority to arbitrarily gather information on them."

Portland is believed to be the first city to refuse to cooperate with the Justice Department in its anti-terrorism effort.

Portland FBI spokeswoman Beth Anne Steele said Tuesday she couldn't comment on the investigation. Justice Department officials were unavailable for comment Tuesday night.

Charles Gorder, an assistant United States attorney in Portland, told The New York Times that the interviews would be completed, with or without help from local police.

Arabs and Muslims have expressed outrage at the U.S. Justice Department's plan to interview the 5,000 men, who are not suspected of any crimes. The list is comprised of men ages 18 to 33 who entered the United States since January 1, 2000, from countries that have been linked to the hijackers in the September 11 attacks or were waystations for the terrorist organization, al Qaeda.

Civil rights activists say the action constitutes racial profiling. The Justice Department acknowledges the men are likely to be Arab and Muslim, but says the list wasn't based on ethnic origin.

Racial profiling is also against state law, Kirkland said.

Kirkland, who is black, said profiling is an issue that hits home for him, but that's not why the Justice Department's request was rejected.

"I am sympathetic to that issue from a perspective of growing up African American. That doesn't factor into any decision to do this or not. We made that decision regarding racial profiling long before September 11. That decision was made for us when the Legislature wrote the law."

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http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/11/21/inv.portland.police.questioning.ap/index.html


Way to go PDX...Someone has to put their foot down and STOP allowing the US Gov to overrun it's citizens!!!

Scott!!

Nukegrrrl
11-21-2001, 01:44 PM
I <heart> PDX!

junglesolja
11-21-2001, 01:51 PM
Ashcroft can lick my ass

Roddimus
11-21-2001, 02:06 PM
ROCK ON PORTLAND!
I say Oregon should succeed from the US. I think we'd be able to make it as a sovergn nation. We've got more than enough resources and we barely rely on the federal government for anything as it is.
Oregon is already pretty self reliant. I say we take it all the way!
:)
Just an idea...

junglesolja
11-21-2001, 02:42 PM
roddimus, you need to contact me and join my super secret Oregonian People's Army. OPA

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

rayman
11-21-2001, 02:58 PM
:cool:

Hookups
11-21-2001, 03:23 PM
We could try to secede, but we'd never suceed.http://www.nwtekno.org/vb/images/icons/icon10.gif

RacergirlX
11-21-2001, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Hookups
We could try to secede, but we'd never suceed.http://www.nwtekno.org/vb/images/icons/icon10.gif

Ha ha, werd.

Layla
11-21-2001, 05:33 PM
I read this in the paper today - I love oregon - fuck you ashcroft!!!

Layla

Euro
11-21-2001, 05:42 PM
I'm proud of the sate of Oregon. What Ashcroft has proposed is what I was most afraid of since the Sept. 11 attacks: racial discriminatrion. The US government is the most powerful in the entire world. They shouldn't have to go on a witch hunt by randomly questioning ANYONE who is from the middle east and is between the ages of 18-33. I firmly believe that ALL states should follow Oregon and refuse the federal government the right to question their citizens with no evidence. Personally, I'd be scared shitless (even if I didn't do anything at all) if the feds came knocking down my door asking me questions about where I come from, my family, my friends, and what kind of way I like to cook my food.

Way to go Oregon. Don't secede, be an example! :0)

Steve

invis
11-21-2001, 05:50 PM
mmmm something to make me proud of this state. nice. amidst all the lost sheep scampering about, letting their wool be sheered in the chaos, the lone sheep stands and sheds the skin to reveal...

Porn Beat Cash
11-22-2001, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by invis
mmmm something to make me proud of this state. nice. amidst all the lost sheep scampering about, letting their wool be sheered in the chaos, the lone sheep stands and sheds the skin to reveal...

DUDE, are you hinting that i have a small penis?? wait or was it a guilty conciouss, or maybe bad spelling? i love you man for showing me who i really am

Dave_Jumpers
11-22-2001, 06:24 AM
The weather sucks but the rest of Oregon rulz!

tallcan
11-22-2001, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Hookups
We could try to secede, but we'd never suceed.http://www.nwtekno.org/vb/images/icons/icon10.gif '
so true

meltymilton
11-22-2001, 11:12 AM
yippie

Sugar7
11-22-2001, 11:23 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Ashcroft can suck a fart out of my ass. (and I mean in the most severe way you conservitive bastard). Yay for Oregon for taking a stand up against this crock of shit. I'm a happy camper.

s1n
11-22-2001, 05:47 PM
*bump* for good news

peace,
kevin

DJ Rawkus
11-22-2001, 10:40 PM
The Confederates lost, and so would Oregon if it tried to secede. A friendly reminder from the "Dirty South Network".

HollyDay
11-23-2001, 02:21 PM
I think it's awesome to see a state standing up against the feds for it's own laws. All power to the people! :) Hopefully we'll see more states standing up against the fed's costly, dirty, corrupt, unwinable drug war as well. :)
Peace!

invis
11-23-2001, 03:18 PM
i doubt it'll be states doing that but i agree

Enkidu Kind
11-23-2001, 06:04 PM
Northwest Tekno Members Roddimus, Effendi, BettieRage, and junglesoja have been arrested by mysterious black-suited FBI agents for advocating revolutionary succession. :p :D :D ;) :cool:

It's okay, I actually agree with you guys. Sometimes I think it would work great, but there is one problem ... no oil. Klamath Falls has geothermal, though. We could be a global role-model for alternative energy usage. And Portland [not Salem] would make one hell of a national capital. :D Hmmm, the Nation of Oregon....

Hey, who are you guys?...... *grabbed by secret government agents***

Disregard my previous hippie rantings. I hereby affirm my unyielding loyalty to the United States of America. I have to go now.

:) Enkidu :)

DJ Rawkus
11-23-2001, 06:08 PM
Whatever Chris! I'm all for making Bend the Nation of Oregon's capitol city..lol..woudn't that be kinda cool? but where would they meet and discuss bidnezz? the golf course or the pub? haha

Nukegrrrl
11-24-2001, 07:12 PM
There's also plenty of open land in OR for generating power from the wind.

nate
11-25-2001, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Enkidu Kind
but there is one problem ... no oil.
Dude, we're all just a bunch of bike-riding tree-huggers anyway. We'll be fine.

Peace.

FiberOptic
11-25-2001, 10:34 PM
We got plenty of ganja thats for sure.

Lady Legs
11-25-2001, 10:38 PM
Whatever Chris! I'm all for making Bend the Nation of Oregon's capitol city..lol..woudn't that be kinda cool? but where would they meet and discuss bidnezz? the golf course or the pub? haha
The Stars in Bend is an awfully nice club...

ZupanGOD
11-26-2001, 05:49 AM
:D

contentinsanity
11-26-2001, 09:13 PM
re-affirms my belief that the NW is the shit

Mike S
11-27-2001, 03:05 PM
http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/oregon/index.ssf?/newsflash/get_story.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?o0043_BC_OR--PoliceQuestioning&&news&ornews