WTF are raves????

[IceTemplar]

SOME ONE PLEASE TELL ME THIS

what ive herd is its just a party place for a bunch of drug'ess. am i wrong or right?? cause i want to go if im wrong :eek:

[Hazz]

Well it is up to you what it is. If you go for the drugs then yes. But if you go to make some good friends dance and hang out then no.

Just like a Skatepark yes you can get drugs there and hang out but you can also and saposed to go to skate!!!! :cool:

[*Frog*]

Is this real????

Go to Raves for the fucking music. Not drugs. If you can learn to love the music and the people without the drugs, it will treat you right. If you can't go and love the music and the people without the drugs, it will fuck up you're life.

Raves are about music, dancing, and meeting cool people. Only do drugs if the love for the three things just listed already exists

[IceTemplar]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh k,

soooooooo what type of music is play'd??? ive herd just techno. remember i havent been to one but plan on it

[STS]

I agree ^ And, you're gonna find what you're lookin for ;) That holds true with just about everything in life i think.

[*Frog*]

I'm trying to tell you to go to a few raves then decide on whether or not you should do drugs. Yes, there are drugs at raves. Whether you choose to do them is your business. Yes, the music is techno. There are many different types of music. More than likely, you'll really like some types over others, but it takes going to raves to figure out what types you like better. I have no ill will to new people, but please make responsible decisions. That's all I'm looking for.
Have fun :D

Where are you from? Maybe over the summer I can help you out? I'm from the south side of Lake Washington. Renton in the House!!! If not I'd like to meet you at some point. :D

Good Luck :D

Message me or e-mail. I'm willing to help you out.

[Jameth]

I'm sorry...what is the name of this forum cause I am confused. Is it Communication (RR)?? No it's Personals - Friends.

If you were to read the forum guidlines for this forum you would find that this section is not where you post things having to do with parties. However if you were to read the guidlines for Rave related you would find that this thread should be there.

I am moving this thread to RR

James

[Zentrax]

stay in the drum n bass room or go to an all drum n bass event..dont go to the trance and happy hardcore room..a lot of junkies and colorful homosexuals with teddy bears and fuck up faces.

[Effendi]

Originally posted by Zentrax:
<STRONG>stay in the drum n bass room or go to an all drum n bass event..dont go to the trance and happy hardcore room..a lot of junkies and colorful homosexuals with teddy bears and fuck up faces.</STRONG>

Are you serious??
Trance = Junkies and Homosexuals.

Yes, hang out with this guy in the Drum and Bass room!!! :rolleyes:

[Primal]

Zentrax- You just made yourself look like a closed minded homophobe. Please think before you speak ;)

[trikc]

homos are good.

xoxo

[HexRei]

AWAY, FOUL BEAST!

-HexRei, ITDF
(Internet Troll Defense Force)

[trikc]

*snicker*

xoxo

[kittiah]

Originally posted by IceTemplar:
<STRONG>ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh k,

soooooooo what type of music is play'd??? ive herd just techno. remember i havent been to one but plan on it</STRONG>

hey ice, do you live in seattle? if so then email me...i have a way for you to check it out easy...for no cash out of your pocket c2gkitty@hotmail.com

if not then you should definately check it out. drugs suck dogs ass and you can just put them out of your head. the music is what is important. friends are what is important. the lights, the visuals, the dancing till dawn.

smoooches...

kitty

[kittiah]

Originally posted by SpaceBoi:
<STRONG>I'm sorry...what is the name of this forum cause I am confused. Is it Communication (RR)?? No it's Personals - Friends.

If you were to read the forum guidlines for this forum you would find that this section is not where you post things having to do with parties. However if you were to read the guidlines for Rave related you would find that this thread should be there.

I am moving this thread to RR

James</STRONG>

are you SERIOUS james? what is your problem? NO ONE reads the stupid guidelines when they first go online to a website...do you read every websites guidelines? hmmmm.

kitty

[kjorb]

the gay nrg mint kicks ass in the d&b room.

so after im done dancein, hows bout i suck your dick?

foolishness.


just know that people shouting "BOMB!!!" are not going to blow you up. they just want to steel your money and make you stupid.

[raggaMASHAmuffin]

haha you're a Reeeeaaaaaaaly bad troll

[Zentrax]

trance is only for fags and fake ass people on E that act all happy but when they come back down...they feel like shit again....bunch of homeless candykids with no jobs..lol...fuck trance...stay in the dnb room....and candykids stay in the fagget room dont go in the drum n bass room.
ps
what ta fuck is the deal with "trolls" that is soo gay...u guys are soo gay...oh man..dont u think ur too old to be at parties with teddy bears and other fagget shit?? u fucking faggets..

[ 05-31-2001: Message edited by: Zentrax ]

[Effendi]

Originally posted by Zentrax:
<STRONG>trance is only for fags and fake ass people on E that act all happy but when they come back down...they feel like shit again....bunch of homeless candykids with no jobs..lol...fuck trance...stay in the dnb room....and candykids stay in the fagget room dont go in the drum n bass room.
ps
what ta fuck is the deal with "trolls" that is soo gay...u guys are soo gay...oh man..dont u think ur too old to be at parties with teddy bears and other fagget shit?? u fucking faggets..

[ 05-31-2001: Message edited by: Zentrax ]</STRONG>

Zentrax: You have just managed to let everyone on the board know your level of Intelligence.

But I'm not going to flame you because I'm onto the way you trolls make statements that you don't even personally believe in order to get attention.

Unfortunately there will be others that read what you just posted and will be unable to stop themselves from giving you exactly what you crave, negative attention.

Good Boy..........now roll over.......Good Boy!!!!!

[Zentrax]

"troll" you candykids get more annoying by the minute....isnt it enough that u guys wear all kinds of colors with teddy bears and are always happy?? u know that kind of happiness is fake right??? overly positive attitudes are so annoying..is like having a bunch of phoebies around you..wearing stupid ass colorful clothes with shirts that say "love" or "happiness" you guys are the worst....i am soo glad more and more kids OD on E and die.....JUST PLEASE...dont go into the DRUM N BASS ROOM....everytime there is a candykid in the drum n bass room..i dance so hard i end up elbowing one of you in the face.....and whats up with the wistles?? are u guys retarded?? it is soo fucking annoying....stick that wistle up ur ass.....
and if u think ur intelligent but u dress up like a candykid..then u must be stupid no matter what...look in a mirror and see how STUPID you look....i am glad candykids are disappearing..i always treat them like shit..so they know whats up...get ur retarted "PLUR" out of my face....i will turn that FAKE MDMA happiness of ur face into sadness if u go into my area..

[ 05-31-2001: Message edited by: Zentrax ]

[snoangl]

WHAT ARE RAVES??
i hope you are joking what the hell are you doing on a teckno board if you dont know what a rave is...????

[islandzbaybeeqt]

O WOW~!
raves ^_^ its a wonderful place to be.
ITS A PLACE YOU GO TO DANCE YOUR ASS OFF and meet HELLA KuUl PEOPLE!
drugs are optional. but i have a question.
how did u find out about this board if u dont go to raves ~??????
:confused:

[Jameth]

Zentrax,

Before you go insulting people with your homophobic slurs, buy a dictionary and learn how to spell faggot you useless waste of space.

I have no qualms about flaming you, so go to hell with all the other fucking stupid ass bigot's.

[evenstar]

Someone please delete this waste of board space. . . all it will be is bitchin'

Keep the negative attitudes to yourself.

[Zentrax]

it takes one to know who to spell it

[Effendi]

New York City!!!!! get a rope..........

[AtomicRobot]

haha, zentrax, your last comment is definately my favorite, wow you are a silly little boy. Here is what i hope: you are a very boring person and one day recently you were going into different websites, decided to check out this board and fuck with people's minds by saying all this stupid shit about "faggots" (yes, what about cigerettes? haha nevermind, you probably didn't get that)and candykids and what not and hopefully one day soon this will not entertain you either and you will go away.
please say that i am correct
peace out

[SonikBaby69]

hmm... RAVE:


A Dark wharehouse in the industrail area. the music starts at 10pm and goes on till 6am.

Theres a LOUD sound system Djs who spin records on two turntables. All of the music is electronic. You will probally never find a Live band at a rave. You go and DANCE!!!!!

It's all about shakin your bootay to some good ol' techno beats!

Lots of lights and sometimes fog and visual screens showing random images to the music. then theres lots of people! and they dance too and everyone just gets down and dances.

Then you can meet people along the way.

You can find thes 'raves' by picking up flers at the local record store or at a rave.

so have fun happy camping ... and play it safe...

Drugs are optional....

[smurfingurl]

omg!! it's true!! if you listen to trance you become a drug addicted queer!! hey...maybe that's how i got this way!! hmmmm :eek:

hahahaha :p
silly people :rolleyes:

[BBKahuna]

Originally posted by Zentrax:
<STRONG>trance is only for fags and fake ass people on E that act all happy but when they come back down...they feel like shit again....bunch of homeless candykids with no jobs..lol...fuck trance...stay in the dnb room....and candykids stay in the fagget room dont go in the drum n bass room.
ps
what ta fuck is the deal with "trolls" that is soo gay...u guys are soo gay...oh man..dont u think ur too old to be at parties with teddy bears and other fagget shit?? u fucking faggets..

[ 05-31-2001: Message edited by: Zentrax ]</STRONG>

Ya! Fuck faggots! I hate em too! They always put on their faggot shoes, and their faggot pants, jump in their faggot car, and drive in their faggy way to the rave, then they take e and thats when they get REALLY faggoty, they shake their faggy asses in a faggy manner all night long and then drive home to their faggy houses and have one great big faggy orgy. Fuck fags, they're SOOOO gay!

Later,
BBKahuna (One of those fucking fags)

[Jameth]

Originally posted by kittiah:
<STRONG>are you SERIOUS james? what is your problem? NO ONE reads the stupid guidelines when they first go online to a website...do you read every websites guidelines? hmmmm.

kitty</STRONG>

It says at when you enter into the forum friends right at the top to read the forum guidlines, and there is a link to them. So yes I expect you to read them, or don't bitch when a thread gets moved

[hyperjet]

There isn't a damn thing wrong with trance or house. Plenty of people listen to it that are not gay. In fact, that is what i spin. I like all styles of music.

Who the fuck cares what sexual status someone is anyway. If they like the music then that is all that matters. What are you guys still in fuckin elementary school or something? Because the way you speak it sure sounds like it. Grow Up

[Zentrax]

i dont give a shit what any of you think. i really hate it when candykids invade my space in the drum n bass room. just get the fuck out of the junglist room and stay in your etard room, and better yet..just please take a lot of E..why 1? take 10!!!! or better yet hope you swallow your fruity wistle and choke to death. its the truth...junglist hate candykids..havent you noticed????? have u ever gon into the drum n bass room? see how people look at you? and cuss u out?? or just ignore you..or look at you the wrong way when u blow ur stupid wistles???? im sure u guys have.....junglist DONT LIKE any candykids..so stay in your etard room....PLUR on this fucking cock..lol

[ 06-01-2001: Message edited by: Zentrax ]

[Muad'dib]

sieg heil, Zentrax

:rolleyes:

[hyperjet]

I don't dress up much for raves anyways. Why the fuck does it matter how people dress? I still think trance is the best. Even though it's my favorite, I go for all the music dnb, house, trance... because it represents unique styles of all musical apspects and creativity.

[Jameth]

Zentrax,

What is your favorite sub-genre of DnB? What about Jungle? You like Jungle? What is your favorite sub-genre of Jungle?

My DnB tastes are usually atuned to the more jazzy, atmospheric DnB. But as for Jungle...I think I would have to say my fav is dark step with a little jump up.

I thought we would discuss this non candy raver to non candy raver.

More like faggot to faggot.

Suck my cock you useless piece of shit.

PLUR,
James

[Jameth]

Originally posted by Zentrax:
<STRONG>it takes one to know who to spell it</STRONG>

it takes one to know how to spell it

does someone need to graduate third grade?

[Jameth]

Or better yet be brought back to second grade for a year?

[Kosmicdog]

Originally posted by SonikBaby69:
<STRONG>hmm... RAVE:


A Dark wharehouse in the industrail area. the music starts at 10pm and goes on till 6am.

Theres a LOUD sound system Djs who spin records on two turntables. All of the music is electronic. You will probally never find a Live band at a rave. You go and DANCE!!!!!

It's all about shakin your bootay to some good ol' techno beats!

Lots of lights and sometimes fog and visual screens showing random images to the music. then theres lots of people! and they dance too and everyone just gets down and dances.

Then you can meet people along the way.

You can find thes 'raves' by picking up flers at the local record store or at a rave.

so have fun happy camping ... and play it safe...

Drugs are optional....</STRONG>


OOOOooh I hate to say it but I feel it coming.....

WERD!!!

[Effendi]

Originally posted by SpaceBoi:
<STRONG>Zentrax,

I thought we would discuss this non candy raver to non candy raver.

More like faggot to faggot.


James</STRONG>


Right on James, Very Good!!!!!!!!

I saw that and got a good laugh.
Some people close their mind off to everything that is different then themselves.

I love the fact that now he must consider the fact that there are people out their that Like jungle who are Gay!!
Lord Forbid!!!!

Personally, this 3rd grader (sorry 2nd grader) has decided what he likes and everyone else in the world is wrong. That's OK though, it is a stage of Imaturity we probably all go through.

I have no idea why he thinks that the world consists of two types of people. those who are gay and listen to trance and wear Candee. And then the real men who are sure of their sexuality.

Newsflash Zentrax, I am Hetro-sexual (That means I prefer sex with women) I'm not accustomed to wearing any candee. and I think that trance is awesome. My second Favorite Genre as a matter of fact!!

Whatever respect I have ever had for the Gay community, has been heightened by the intelligent posts of some of the members of that community. Like Jesse, James and Jacob.

Futhermore, it has also been my observation that the individuals who claim to be the most Homophobe, are the ones the least secure in their own sexuality.
(not always the case of course)

Like what you like, Do what you do, and don't worry about what other will think of you.
You will gain more respect by doing your own thing and respecting other peoples choices despite your own preferences.

Don't hate just to hate!!

OK your turn, show us the level of your intelligence with your reply.

Here is your chance to regain a little repect from your peers, or remain the Troll!!

:rolleyes:

[Zentrax]

Originally posted by SpaceBoi:
<STRONG>Zentrax,

What is your favorite sub-genre of DnB? What about Jungle? You like Jungle? What is your favorite sub-genre of Jungle?

My DnB tastes are usually atuned to the more jazzy, atmospheric DnB. But as for Jungle...I think I would have to say my fav is dark step with a little jump up.

I thought we would discuss this non candy raver to non candy raver.

More like faggot to faggot.

Suck my cock you useless piece of shit.

PLUR,
James</STRONG>

hey fag....jungle doesnt have sub genres..drum n bass does...jungle is JUNGLE period...dark step, and atmospheric dnb are not sub genres of jungle they are sub genres of drum n bass..and its not called atmospheric dnb anymore..its called ambient.
and there is not such thing as dark step anymore its called tech step....maybe you should upgrade on your knowledge...lol...u dumb fuck..jungle is just a subgenre of drum n bass...just as jump up is a subgenre of drum n bass too..and that jazzy atmospheric dnb is now called neurofunk.....oh yeah whos ur fav. top 5 drum n bass producer in the USA????
i bet you wont know that you faggot...and no i wont suck your dick...ask one of the candykids im sure they will suck you off for a lolipop.

[ 06-01-2001: Message edited by: Zentrax ]

[Headquarters]

he actually listens to jungle? this is becoming disturbing... and if he doesn't know shit, he seems to think he does. a pretty authentic troll.... goood job at sturring up trouble buddy... :confused:

[smurfingurl]

OMG!! effendi you're a rock star!! notice he didnt reply to you? sheeeesh :rolleyes: people and their ignorance!! hey zentrax! i'm not trying to add any more fuel to the fire, but you have got to be one of the most ignorant fools i've seen yet on this board! do you go to parties to listen to the music?? why do you have so much hate in your heart?? when i dance, any pain or anger or sadness is extinguished from my soul. it's MY time for release. does it not do the same for you?? um...i haven't seen or heard whistles at a party in a long ass time, so as far as that's concerned, get over it!! and glowy things are kool dude!! and if i were you, i would not get into a flame war with spaceboi...i've seen him in action before and he'll burn you alive.
please take your hate elsewhere....the original topic is what is a rave?
ice templar: go to starbass or platinum records and pick up some fliers. check out a party sometime and be prepared to be amazed! you will have SOOOO much fun
:eek: :D

[Zentrax]

Originally posted by headquarters:
<STRONG>he actually listens to jungle? this is becoming disturbing... and if he doesn't know shit, he seems to think he does. a pretty authentic troll.... goood job at sturring up trouble buddy... :confused:</STRONG>

no fag..i listen to drum n bass. not jungle. i bet you think trance,house,hardcore,drum n bass is called techno? ha?? dumbass

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by IceTemplar:
<STRONG>SOME ONE PLEASE TELL ME THIS

what ive herd is its just a party place for a bunch of drug'ess. am i wrong or right?? cause i want to go if im wrong :eek:</STRONG>


Raves are a place where "most" go for drugs and "some" go for the muzik.

-Zupan


:cool:

[smurfingurl]

zupan god! dude!! speak for yourself!! remember, where you go to parties is a lot different from how people party here! damn, this is like deja vu :rolleyes:

[Digital_Snowman]

Raves are just about haveing fun it doesn't matter what kind of techno you listen to or what clothing you wear it's just about having a good time and meeting new and interesting people.

[Headquarters]

Originally posted by Zentrax:
<STRONG>no fag..i listen to drum n bass. not jungle. i bet you think trance,house,hardcore,drum n bass is called techno? ha?? dumbass</STRONG>

techno? what's techno....? i wouldn't know, i'm to busy participating in group homosexual activities....

[trikc]

homos are still good. :p

hey z--just so you know who i am according to your narrow methods of categorization, i have a few pieces of candy that friends have given me along the way, and i'm bisexual, so i guess that makes me half a fag.
i only want to say that i'm sorry you just don't get it. truly, i am. i'm guessing you're either angry and intolerant, or plain unhappy. and that sucks. even if you don't believe the words you type and are just trying to get a rise out of other people, i still believe that holds true. you must be pretty fucked up to say that you wish people would die. and for that, i don't wish any hate back at you. i sincerely hope you find what it is you need. it's hard not to give the reaction you're looking for, but i still believe this community is rooted in tolerance and diversity. you give us a challenge to practice what we preach. feel free to hate me if that's all you know how to do. i just hope you learn there's a better way to be.

xoxo

[smurfingurl]

yay trikc!! you da coolest :D

[186k\sec]

this is an outrage! -

this zentax dude is an obvious gay bashing troll &gt;

" stay in the drum n bass room or go to an all drum n bass event..dont go to the trance and happy hardcore room..a lot of junkies and colorful homosexuals with teddy bears and fuck up faces"

Templar - raves are musical parties where for the most part - people are accepting, kind, & fun to be with - with a few acceptions - obviously.....dont be discouraged by this nazi fuk. & btw, not everyone in the d&b room is like this freak.

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by smurfingurl:
<STRONG>zupan god! dude!! speak for yourself!! remember, where you go to parties is a lot different from how people party here! damn, this is like deja vu :rolleyes:</STRONG>

What do you mean?

Are you telling me that epuddles are prohibited in a certain area of the country. The scene everywhere is infested full of drugs, I know there are "some" sober party people out there.

But accordingly to National Institutes on Drug Abuse shows otherwise.
http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofax/nationtrends.html

Ecstasy (MDMA)

Abuse of Ecstasy, or MDMA (methylenedioxymethamphetamine), in 1999 became more widespread in 17 CEWG areas: Atlanta, Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Denver, Detroit, Miami, Minneapolis/St. Paul, New Orleans, New York, Philadelphia, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, St. Louis, Texas, and Washington, D.C. In Boston, MDMA was the most frequently mentioned drug in telephone calls to the Poison Control Center during the first three quarters of 2000.

CEWG members reported that MDMA was being used in a variety of normal recreational and social settings in addition to raves, by a wide variety of age groups. Emergency room data showed that marijuana/hashish abuse in combination with MDMA increased from 8 mentions in 1990 to 796 in 1999.

.:
Of course it's everywhere, but the numbers have decreased dramitcly here when local law enforcement stepped in and took a closer look and have made it difficult to house raves. Throwing events in club nights have greatly reduced the drug use by patrons considering the clubs have a strict policy with drug use. Allthough I'd like the clubs to stay open for an additional hour or two, the reduction in raves has brought the use down at events which makes me happy. In result the folks who would attend an event with the intention to do drugs has almost vanished.

:eek:

-Zupan

[ 06-01-2001: Message edited by: ZupanGOD ]

[HexRei]

Hey Zupan- why dont you just go to events with less drugs? And if your entire scene is so infested with drugs that you can't find a freaking club night with out them, why don't you throw your own events?
How is it more fair to support legislation to control what others do (since said others are apparently the majority in your area) rather than control what you do?

[BBKahuna]

Zentrax is what happens when you give a middle schooler a bunch of crack, testosterone and a taste for Drum and Bass.

Later,
BBKahuna

[evilarchangel68]

while i agree that this was a silly question, i have to ask you all this....

what if this were some thirteen year old kid who seriously wanted to know what a rave was becuse he was curious, and NOT a troll?

i mean, the odds are unlikely, but still...if i were some overprotected and unworldly pubescent girl who found this board thru a search engine or some shit, and i asked all these 'rave kids' what a rave was, and they all called me a troll and made fun of me, my feleings would be hurt.

thats only like a .00000000365781245467651% chance though, so ill shut up....

[ 06-04-2001: Message edited by: angelstar_68 ]

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by HexRei:
<STRONG>Hey Zupan- why dont you just go to events with less drugs? </STRONG>

I do. I was speaking about Raves..

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by smurfingurl:
<STRONG>what i MEAN is, you are in florida, and like your previous forever long posts about drugs are bad, people only go to parties for drugs, blah blah blah....i don't go to parties just for the drugs and neither do the friends that i go to these parties with! you make generalizations about the scene and drug use and i don't agree with shit you say..er...type. i DO agree that people need to stop going to parties JUST to get high, but who the fuck am i to tell someone else what's best for them? who are you or anyone for that matter to judge people and say what's right or wrong. i DO NOT want to keep this thread going on and on about the rights and wrongs of life; that's what you've done before...that's why i say this is like deja vu.
get over yourself

:rolleyes:
this debate is TIRED!</STRONG>

First you disagree with me when I was generalizing that people goto parties for drugs. Then you said you agree that people need to stop going to parties to get high. Which is it?

-Zupan

[ 06-01-2001: Message edited by: ZupanGOD ]

[HollyDay]

Somebody smells like bacon...

[smurfingurl]

Originally posted by ZupanGOD:
<STRONG>
Raves are a place where "most" go for drugs and "some" go for the muzik.

-Zupan


:cool:</STRONG>

what i MEAN is, you are in florida, and like your previous forever long posts about drugs are bad, people only go to parties for drugs, blah blah blah....i don't go to parties just for the drugs and neither do the friends that i go to these parties with! you make generalizations about the scene and drug use and i don't agree with shit you say..er...type. i DO agree that people need to stop going to parties JUST to get high, but who the fuck am i to tell someone else what's best for them? who are you or anyone for that matter to judge people and say what's right or wrong. i DO NOT want to keep this thread going on and on about the rights and wrongs of life; that's what you've done before...that's why i say this is like deja vu.
get over yourself

:rolleyes:
this debate is TIRED!

[Zentrax]

"troll" that is so stupid..must be a candykid ebonics word

[Cedwyn]

"zentrax" that is so stooopid. must be a candykid ebonics word for fag.


Angelstar - nobody is calling Ice templar a troll.

[trikc]

ah, we have a capricorn in our midst... ;)
xoxo

[BBKahuna]

*swoops down directly onto the head of Zentrax and bites his jugular out*

Later,
BBKahuna

[Muad'dib]

"troll" that is so stupid..must be a candykid ebonics word

dude, you are so stupid..the term "troll" has nothing to do with candykids or raves at all. It's a fucking standard internet message board term, just like flame, smiley faces and all that other shit.

you'd be a lot happier in a different scene, man.

[ 06-03-2001: Message edited by: Muad'dib ]

[ 06-03-2001: Message edited by: Muad'dib ]

[TrickyKat]

Hey zoloft or prozac or whatever the fuck your name is..

I love jungle
and I personally don't listen to trance, it's just not my kind of music.

however,
after reading the shit you have posted here I only have one thing to say...

If I saw a picture of you, and you were to ever come to a party in Seattle, perhaps stroll into the drum n bass room and make any kind of hostile gesture toward ANYONE in there, candykid or not, and I saw it, I would personally slam your fucking head into the side of the speaker.

and I'm not a violent girl.

you're the type of asshole that created the term 'jaded junglist' and we all know how I feel about that.

don't ever speak for the jungle kids, you don't represent us, you represent all of the closeminded ignorant pricks that think they know everything. we all know how I feel about that too.

and as for your gay bashing, I'm not even gonna say what i think of you after that, there's not enough space on the board for me to convey how much that pisses me off.

Stay in New York

and stay off of this board.

a slightly pissed off,
Taylor

[Zentrax]

lol@ bashing my head. this is too funny....but its true..go to any drum n bass forums..u will see that 99 percent hate trance(gay music) and we hate candykids...i guess its diff. in this etard board....oh well...dont forget to take 10 pills not 1! ..oh yeah...stay away from the drum n bass room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jaded junglist for life!!!! im out of this etard board..i guess this is where all the trance fag-candykids hang out...have fun with ur lil colorful pretty necklaces and ur little teddy bears and ur happy face shirts that say "love" lol..or "happiness" and have fun with ur pills...and ur retarded colorful clothes and ur stupid animal masks..no wonder the gov. is crackng down on "RAVES" cause u retards are a bunch of lil kids getting fucked up and dressing up like the smurfs....man..thank god for drum n bass..they should seriously have a sign in a drum n bass event saying "NO ETARDS AKA CANDYKIDS AKA FAGS ALLOWED"..

[hyperjet]

Werd TrickyKat!

Oh yeah Zentrax, I don't drugs everytime I go to raves and I am not gay and I am on this post. That just proves you're a fuckin idiot. Peace Out to all others (except Zentrax). Have a good day Moron.

hyperjet&gt; :p

[smurfingurl]

Originally posted by ZupanGOD:
<STRONG>First you disagree with me when I was generalizing that people goto parties for drugs. Then you said you agree that people need to stop going to parties to get high. Which is it?

-Zupan

[ 06-01-2001: Message edited by: ZupanGOD ]</STRONG>

i'm saying that not everyone goes to parties for the drugs...i'm also saying that it's shitty that some people do...drugs are defintitely a part of the scene, but i disagree that most people go to parties for the drugs like you say! jeeeezus! i wish you would quit posting shit like that about how parties are drug filled and blah blah blah...i understand that you disagree with drug use. but are you making anything better by continually posting that people only go to parties to do drugs? cuz it's not entirely true! what about the kidz whose parents read this board? or what about the trolls? what kind of message are you giving these people? instead of preaching about how evil parties are cuz of the drugs, why don't you start encouraging people to go without drugs? in my experience, no one likes a preacher anyway. and remember that parties in florida are a whole lot different from parties in portland...at least from how you describe them. k, i'm done wit ya
:rolleyes:
maybe people with negative attitudes about parties shouldn't be soo quick to post on nwtekno since ya don't even go to parties around here! *coughnewyork&floridacough*
[ 06-04-2001: Message edited by: smurfingurl ]

[ 06-04-2001: Message edited by: smurfingurl ]

[186k\sec]

no wonder the gov. is crackng down on "RAVES" cause u retards are a bunch of lil kids getting fucked up and dressing up like the smurfs....man..thank god for drum n bass..

so, zentak

Government crack downs = justice

+ Ravers = little rEtarded kids in smurf attire

&

drum & bass = appropriate sexuality

therefore:

Zentrap = unelightened small minded hick biggot with mismatched & underdeveloped genitals.

[smurfingurl]

AND the smurfs are fuckin cool!! :p
i don't dress up like one, i just like to dance like one! hehe ;)

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by smurfingurl:
[QB]i'm saying that not everyone goes to parties for the drugs...i'm also saying that it's shitty that some people do...drugs are defintitely a part of the scene, but i disagree that most people go to parties for the drugs like you say! jeeeezus! i wish you would quit posting shit like that about how parties are drug filled and blah blah blah...i understand that you disagree with drug use. but are you making anything better by continually posting that people only go to parties to do drugs? cuz it's not entirely true! what about the kidz whose parents read this board? or what about the trolls? what kind of message are you giving these people? instead of preaching about how evil parties are cuz of the drugs, why don't you start encouraging people to go without drugs? in my experience, no one likes a preacher anyway. and remember that parties in florida are a whole lot different from parties in portland...at least from how you describe them. k, i'm done wit ya
:rolleyes:
maybe people with negative attitudes about parties shouldn't be soo quick to post on nwtekno since ya don't even go to parties around here! *coughnewyork&floridacough*
[ 06-04-2001: Message edited by: smurfingurl ]



Could ignorance be contributed to your denial?

Who would of thought.. Portland being the only major city in America without a drug problem at raves.

but for real..

Being from another state doesn't eliminate the fact that drugs are at raves.

Tell you what you can live in your drug free rave utopia, and I'll stick to the fact that ecstacy is used at raves more than any other types of concerts/festivals/dance halls/clubs, etc. Cool?


I'm not trying to preach anything, just trying to be honest here.

-Zupan

[ 06-04-2001: Message edited by: ZupanGOD ]

[smurfingurl]

hey i'm not ignorant about drugs at all! re-read my previous post pleeeeeez! just like before dude! you are preaching that drugs are plentiful at raves and then you preach how bad they are. i agree with you that they are at parties...never said that they werent. all i'm sayin is that your posts are not going to make a difference if all you do is say "raves are filled with drugs, that's the only reason people go, drugs are bad, you're stupid if you do drugs" do you understand that that type of shit won't stop people? and portland is NOT drug free by any means, but from what i understand, we do have a scene here like no other city! and porland is a utopia of luv and acceptance! go back and read what i wrote and feel free to check out any of my other posts...i always say the same thing: do what you're gonna do and be who you're gonna be, but make sure that you have all the info you can get so that you're choice is the best you can make for yourself! ignorance is not always bliss....i am not ignorant....i live here...i think i have a better idea of what's goin on than you would...don't try to get condescending with me...i don't make statements on your neck of the woods, so don't even start with portland :mad:
yer irritating me

[evilarchangel68]

god dammit....did i reply in the wrong thread again????

[evilarchangel68]

AWAY, FOUL BEAST!

-HexRei, ITDF
(Internet Troll Defense Force)

is this real?

haha you're a Reeeeaaaaaaaly bad troll

i hope you are joking what the hell are you doing on a teckno board if you dont know what a rave is...????


ok, i WAS in the right thread after all.......it sure LOOKS like people are calling the poor kid a troll.......

[ 06-04-2001: Message edited by: angelstar_68 ]

[RaveOlution01]

It is true... portland has a pretty damn positive scene. Im not even from there, I party in seattle, but ive been there... sure there are drugs but u can find em everywhere... still its completely different than Cali or New York (cough) ;) I see what both of you are sayin... but comparatively Portland has a really positive scene with LESS in the way of druggies going to the partiez just to get fucked up. Its not nearly as bad over here, I have a friend in NYC that sez its gotten really bad over there... you will always find people who dont believe in the love and respect and everything and just want to go to get messed up and check out eye candy, but I wouldnt say its the majority over here. A lot of the people who do go and do get fucked up arent going for that reason, and go "clean" quite often also. Its not a nessecity, and its DEFINETLY not the only reason to go for quite a few. Just tryin to give maybe an outside opinion here after listenin to both of ya. And Im not gonna even comment about Anthrax or whatever the dudez name is. :mad: Peace and luv everz all.
-Bri :D

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by smurfingurl:
<STRONG>hey i'm not ignorant about drugs at all! re-read my previous post pleeeeeez! just like before dude! you are preaching that drugs are plentiful at raves and then you preach how bad they are. i agree with you that they are at parties...never said that they werent. all i'm sayin is that your posts are not going to make a difference if all you do is say "raves are filled with drugs, that's the only reason people go, drugs are bad, you're stupid if you do drugs" do you understand that that type of shit won't stop people? and portland is NOT drug free by any means, but from what i understand, we do have a scene here like no other city! and porland is a utopia of luv and acceptance! go back and read what i wrote and feel free to check out any of my other posts...i always say the same thing: do what you're gonna do and be who you're gonna be, but make sure that you have all the info you can get so that you're choice is the best you can make for yourself! ignorance is not always bliss....i am not ignorant....i live here...i think i have a better idea of what's goin on than you would...don't try to get condescending with me...i don't make statements on your neck of the woods, so don't even start with portland :mad:
yer irritating me</STRONG>

Lemme make it clear that I am not speaking on the behalf of everyone here, Florida or portland. I was never specificly talking about Portland or Florida. I was talking about Raves in general. They are the same everywhere.. anyways.. Someone asked what they were, and I put it quite simply. Go ahead and assume things I didn't say.

BUT

Again, lemme make it clear.. I am just saying that drugs are quite rampid at Raves. Untill the evidence shows otherwise my opinion stands.


Cheers
-Zupan

[ 06-04-2001: Message edited by: ZupanGOD ]

[AthenA]

Raves are a place where "most" go for drugs and "some" go for the muzik.

-Zupan

WERD!!!

Looks like some kids prefer to walk around with a bucket on their head and deny reality. Now it's been a couple months since I was in PDX, but as I recall, it's not exempt from the harsh realities of the rave scene. Now, I would say that Portland's drug scene at raves isn't as poppin' as else where (I couldn't find a dealer for the life of me :mad: ), but every kid I talked to was looped. No joke. Just like Seattle, just like SF, just like D.C. and NY. I know PDX kids would like to believe that their scene is in some way superior, but it's not. Sorry. :D

[smurfingurl]

yer right..it's not superior

[evilarchangel68]

Originally posted by Zentrax:
<STRONG>trance is only for fags </STRONG>

yikes, thats pretty harsh. i have a story for you though....

about 2-3 months ago, i met some REALLY fly girls, who were damn good dancers (i think their names were amy and aileen, its been a while so i dont remember). anyways, they were really cool, and i asked them what their fave music was, and they said TRANCE . really deep, emotional, dj tiesto-like trance.

they were not candy kids. they were not high on e. they were not overly happy. they werent bad dancers. they werent ugly. and they werent 'fags'.

hmmmmmz....you say all trance-heads are fags, but an asshole like you would be lucky as fuck if you ever even had a .000000000234878142156456451% chance with these girls.

i say you gte over your little stereotypes. there are jsut as many stupid ass jungle heads as there are stupid ass trance-heads, or stupid ass break junkies, or stupid ass house heads. there are stupid pepole everywhere, and you have proved yourself one of them.

congratulations! :D

asshole

[evilarchangel68]

by the way zantax, you sounded dumb in one other area.....thought id point it out real quick

you say there is jungle only, and no subgenres of jungle, and only dnb has subgenres.

well, i dont know much about jungle, but i know that there are at least a FEW kinds of jungle: uk jungle, jump up jungle, ragga style jungle, strait up jungle, techstep, hiphop infliuenced jungle. fuck, even speed garage incorporates jungle basslines, so would that be considered another one?

and atmospheric dnb is not now considered ambient, you dumb fuck. ambient is frequently completely beatless, and last time i checked, drum and bass has quite a few beats, even if it IS downtempo. downtempo does not mean beatless. and if it were beatless, it would not be DRUM and bass.


besides, there are so many types of music that can be ambient....ambient house, ambient jazzy house, ambient trance, ambient psy, ambient all in itself. so, if all jazzy drum and bass is now considered to be the subgenre of ambient, what would we call ambient jazzy house?

drum and jazzy house ambient chill room vibe tech hepcat bass?

bugger off.

[SnatchYoAss]

That Zemplar guy, or who-ever, may be a complete asshole but you ALL sound dumb as fuck arguing with him in circles******

[kyoung22]

Originally posted by angelstar_68:
[QB]
ok, i WAS in the right thread after all.......it sure LOOKS like people are calling the poor kid a troll.......
[QB]

i just thought i'd point out that at least SOME of the "troll acusations" are directed at this closet-case, what's it called? anthrax?

[Zentrax]

Originally posted by angelstar_68:
<STRONG>by the way zantax, you sounded dumb in one other area.....thought id point it out real quick

you say there is jungle only, and no subgenres of jungle, and only dnb has subgenres.

well, i dont know much about jungle, but i know that there are at least a FEW kinds of jungle: uk jungle, jump up jungle, ragga style jungle, strait up jungle, techstep, hiphop infliuenced jungle. fuck, even speed garage incorporates jungle basslines, so would that be considered another one?

and atmospheric dnb is not now considered ambient, you dumb fuck. ambient is frequently completely beatless, and last time i checked, drum and bass has quite a few beats, even if it IS downtempo. downtempo does not mean beatless. and if it were beatless, it would not be DRUM and bass.


besides, there are so many types of music that can be ambient....ambient house, ambient jazzy house, ambient trance, ambient psy, ambient all in itself. so, if all jazzy drum and bass is now considered to be the subgenre of ambient, what would we call ambient jazzy house?

drum and jazzy house ambient chill room vibe tech hepcat bass?

bugger off.</STRONG>

you are right you don't know much about jungle.

[hyperjet]

ahh, dumbfuck speaks again

wooha! :p

[Rainbow Brite]

:::falls down on floor laughing:::
:::gets back up in chair, and falls out again:::

omg, this is so fucking hilarious, i cant stop laughing..thanks to whats his name, zentrax, im busting up...

seems like he dont know jack shit about the scene..its people like that, that kill it more and more everyday for the rest of us...
hes all trying to be fucking hardcore, yet just another idiot..calling up faggot kandy kids..and fake..ROFLAMO.....
aim me, my sn is ieatkandykids

and ill eat you up to if you piss me off..

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by smurfingurl:
<STRONG>and portland is NOT drug free by any means, but from what i understand, we do have a scene here like no other city! </STRONG>

Considering the shit with PDX.. I have drawn my conclusion that their is a drug problem anywhere where raves are held. Again, when I see evidence that prooves otherwise I will keep this viewpoint. I'd rather base my opinion on facts, logic, and reasoning than how I "feel".

Cheers!
-Zupan

[antiplur superstar]

What is your favorite sub-genre of DnB? What about Jungle?

jungle doesnt have sub genres..drum n bass does...jungle is JUNGLE period...dark step, and atmospheric dnb are not sub genres of jungle they are sub genres of drum n bass..and its not called atmospheric dnb anymore..its called ambient.
and there is not such thing as dark step anymore its called tech step....maybe you should upgrade on your knowledge...lol...u dumb fuck..jungle is just a subgenre of drum n bass...just as jump up is a subgenre of drum n bass too

you know what. YOU ARE ALL WRONG!! DnB is a sub-genre of jungle. All you kids need to know your history. First there as ol' school rave. That later evolved into Jungle. After Jungle b/c popular is spawned an nice friendly cleaner style called DnB (apparently real jungle is just to hard and aggressive for some).

tech step and dark step ARE NOT THE SAME!!! tech step is a clean hard two-step genre. Dark step is simply that harder and darker. the basslines are louder and heavier.

it usually isn't called ambent DnB, it's acctually refered to as Atmospheric Jungle. but it can also be called ambient jungle.

ok done . . . oh wait some more

well, i dont know much about jungle, but i know that there are at least a FEW kinds of jungle: uk jungle, jump up jungle, ragga style jungle, strait up jungle, techstep, hiphop infliuenced jungle. fuck, even speed garage incorporates jungle basslines, so would that be considered another one?

jump-up jungle?? are you talking about jump-up? if so it's also called 2-step which is a sub-genre of DnB which is a sub-genre of jungle.
tech step is also under DnB
Speed garage is not a sub genre of jungle iit's under house . . and it has DnB bass lines not jungle.

We need more dark step darkcore and hardstep in all our lives . . . .. MMMM jungle

ok now i'm done

[evilarchangel68]

ummm, sorry to correct you, antiplur superstar, but 2-step is NOT jungle.

2-step sounds almost exactly like uk garage except with a more r & b flavor. if you dont believe me, go out and pick up a 'uk 2-step' cd, then pick up a 'uk garage' cd, and youll see that the two sound almost exactly the same.

and yes, i know that speed garage is not a form of jungle, i was jsut trying to get Zantac to say something stupid.

anyways, like i said before, i dont know much about jungle cause its not the music that interests me most, but i was pretty damn sure that 'jump up' is a term used to describe jungle. i have never once heard a person say "jump up drum and bass". its always been "jump up jungle". so sue me.

[Liquid Motion]

In regard to the initial question posted to start this thread, I believe raves are what you make of them.

Go anywhere (even NAF) with a positive attitude and some good freinds, and most of the time you'll have a good time.

[smurfingurl]

i agree completely with ya!!

[NixieTrixie]

Raves are a place people who have a love for the music go and dance and have a good time, It's all about the music

Trixie

[Zentrax]

NO.....

here it how it goes..

the first one at the top is DRUM N BASS.
then it has sub genres like:
tech step, ragga, neurofunk, 2step, dark, ambient, jump up, then finally jungle.

[Lefty]

*yawn* jungle...fags...trance...D&B *yawn* :rolleyes:

[PurpleBugsBunny]

Damn! This is why I wish YourMom was a moderator.

"And that's all I got to say about that"

[ 06-07-2001: Message edited by: Purple Bugs Bunny ]

[Jameth]

Are you guys still arguing over this?

[venomous_vagina]

Shut up crash or I will take you on maximum overdrive in my vagina you slug-fucker! :mad:

[^*Genesis*^]

play drum and bass play drum and bass

James is the biggest faggot that i know and linzy wants me to add in that james is an anal splunker.
SO THERE
:p

[supastara]

Wow... :eek: y'all are so... so... why yer all so VERY. Aren't you?

[smurfingurl]

hehe i guess so! heya gurl! :D

[antiplur superstar]

2-step sounds almost exactly like uk garage except with a more r & b flavor. if you dont believe me, go out and pick up a 'uk 2-step' cd, then pick up a 'uk garage' cd, and youll see that the two sound almost exactly the same.



that's 2-step GARAGE a.k.a. uk garage you twit. 2- step is that cheezie 2-step genre with the stupid basslines a.k.a. Jump up so named because you want to "jump up" or just bash your head in.

and jungle came before DnB. you can't ba a subgenre of a genre that came after you.

[antiplur superstar]

Hence - I believe whoever said that Drum+Bass is a sub-genre of jungle is right, because it is Go look yourselves

thank you . . the voice of reason

[raggaMASHAmuffin]

sweet christ
You kids seriously need to understand how to get over yourselves, stop arguing about these damn genres and go to:
The Electronic Primer http://www.plato.nl/e-primer/
or The Music Womb http://www.members.home.net/mlomas/index.htm

Hence - I believe whoever said that Drum+Bass is a sub-genre of jungle is right, because it is :p Go look yourselves

[supastara]

Bgirl and smurfingirl... hi cool-girls. Uh, y'all wanna come over to my house? Where the cool kidz chill? And the silly-asses stay out back? ;)

[smurfingurl]

yeah!! i do i do!! hey whatcha doin this friday? wanna join me and some kool kats for the rainbow ball?
:D

[bfugit]

This thread was weird I started reading at the begining, and it seemed as though the qestion was "what is a rave" and then instead of an answer all I saw was DnB guy lose his mind, and start some kkk raver madness. Are you a rave nazi trying to decide what people can and can't think, or are you just retarded. Who are you to tell someone what they can and can't like? You think about that and if you can come up with an intelligent answer maybe I'll give you the time of day

[evilarchangel68]

Originally posted by Boogie Man the antiplur superstar:
that's 2-step GARAGE a.k.a. uk garage you twit.

nope. sorry. '2step garage' and uk garage are NOT the same thing. dont make me bust out quotes, articles, and reviews from magazines! ;)

2- step is that cheezie 2-step genre with the stupid basslines a.k.a. Jump up so named because you want to "jump up" or just bash your head in.[/QB]

nope. sorry. 2step is not jump up jungle.

no, im not claiming to be ANY kind of expert when it comes to sub-categorizing jungle music, but i can say, without a doubt, that 2step is not jungle in any way shape or form.

maybe the the reviews ive read, and cds ive listened to, dont knwo what theyre talking about/put the wrong genre in the title, but i highly doubt it.

[miss tekky]

:rolleyes:

Still arguing about this? Jesus people (specfically javier and acid burn angel), don't get your knickers in a knot. :D

I mainly agree with Javier though.

Rave &gt;&gt; Jungle: Sub genres: Ragga, tech step, dark step, vocal, drum and bass, jump up, yadda yadda.

[bumpinhouse]

good question what is a rave?????? i didn't know they still exsited what is this 1991 hahahahaha.

peace
craig

[OpheliaDream]

stay in the drum n bass room or go to an all drum n bass event..dont go to the trance and happy hardcore room..a lot of junkies and colorful homosexuals with teddy bears and fuck up faces

omg!! it's true!! if you listen to trance you become a drug addicted queer!! hey...maybe that's how i got this way!! hmmmm


Are you serious??
Trance = Junkies and Homosexuals.


trance is only for fags and fake ass people on E that act all happy but when they come back down...they feel like shit again....bunch of homeless candykids with no jobs..lol...fuck trance...stay in the dnb room....and candykids stay in the fagget room dont go in the drum n bass room.


jaded junglist for life!!!! im out of this etard board..i guess this is where all the trance fag-candykids hang out...have fun with ur lil colorful pretty necklaces and ur little teddy bears and ur happy face shirts that say "love" lol..or "happiness" and have fun with ur pills

Goddamn I fucking hate ignorant people. I love trance. I also like jungle. I also like DnB. I also like Breaks. I also like tech step. I also like dark step. I also like atmospheric dnb. I AM NOT, however, a fuckin candy kid. Nor have I ever been. I may have worn a FEW pieces of kandy in my earlier days, like two at a time, but i HAVE NEVER BEEN, and NEVER WILL BE a fuggin candy kid. And it takes someone so fuggin ignorant to friggen label everyone as a candy kid because they like trance. Goddammit...hey! You like pizza! You're a fuckin fag! Cuz you like pizza! Yeah! Jeezus fuggin christ. Ignorance. Gr.

and its not called atmospheric dnb anymore..its called ambient.


Um...no...someone duzn't know what the fuck he's talking about...*cough cough*

and ventrax. if i ever meet you or find you. balls are gonna be fried.

[liquid_Kaos]

Zantac 44... or whatever your name is

I listin to Drum and bass, mostly Jump up. I Know plenty of Drum and Bass DJ's, and was first introduced to the entire scene through Drum and Bass. However I like Happy hardcore more than drum and bass, and think Cadny kids are plenty cool. A lot of them don't eat E and are loved by drum and Bass DJ's and kids throughout the Scene. Just cuz your an idiot and probably associate with people who share your idiotic views doesn't mean that the general group of people that hang out in the D n B room are as retarded as you are, so Please stop generalizing cuz you make the rest of us look as stupid as you. B-T-W how much happy hardcore have you really listened too? How many Hardcore shows have you been too? There are probably less etards listining to a hardcore set than a D N B one... Especially concidering you can rarely even find happy hardcore sets at the stupid massives that would promote things like stupid etarded kids wondering around aimlessly at a rave for the first time.

[sentriK]

Originally posted by SnatchYoAss:
<STRONG>That Zemplar guy, or who-ever, may be a complete asshole but you ALL sound dumb as fuck arguing with him in circles******</STRONG>


For all you PLUR mongers out there, this is what you call UNITY.

Zemplar is going through his, Jaded, I know more than a newbie, therefore i'm better than the newbie stage. Once he sees that he's an idiot for the hate he is pouring out of himself, he'll wake up and realize the only one he's been hurting the whole time is himself.

Oh, and I have a question for Mr. Jaded God anit-depressant himself. Can you show me proof that 99% of Junglists hate kandi kids? And with your gay bashing comments: I bet that a certain percent of the Junglists you dance next to are gay as well. Got anything to say to that?

Peace -
K

[Effendi]

DJ Sentrik for President!!!

nuff said!!!

[IRASIA]

I can't believe that this post is getting so much attention. It's more than likely just a rouse to get you all hopped up. Or it's aconfused mormon who accidently watched the news one night. Leave this crap alone and be happy that you all are enlightened to the true facts about our culture!!!
Visit JumpSlip post for the facts about a great party!!!

[evilarchangel68]

about the whole "which came first the jungle or the DNB?" argument, maybe i can offer my opinion...

first of all, exactly what is jungle, in simple terms?

fast drums and heavy basslines.

drums and basslines.

drum and bass.

yes, the term jungle came first. the term drum and bass came after. many of you believe that if one thing came AFTER the something, the first said thing cant possibly be a category of the second thing.

the term drum and bass simply describes that sound of fast drums and heavy basslines. that term (drum and bass) is meant to encompass that entire sound. so it entirely feasible for jungle to be a subcategory of drum and bass.

im not arguing which came first at all. all im saying is that drum and bass is a term that perfectly describes the sound of heavy basslines and fast drums. so why si every one so pissed that their precious 'jungle' could possibly be 'under' something like DNB?

ill use an example...lets pretend its 1988 or so...

lets say garage comes out, but there is no such thing as the term house.

garage is the new sound. no ones ever heard of something like it.

then lets say some speed garage comes out. no one has heard anything like THAT either.

then some other 4/4, funky sounding beats come out. its not the same as garage, or speed garage, but its still a type of music that fits into a general category of those two.

so someone invents the term house, and even though garage and speed garage came first, they are now subcategories of house because house was the term invented to encompass all of those 4/4 sounds. (this is an example btw, so odnt htink im retarded)

make sense anyone?

or lets use street dancing as an example. the seventies roll around and people start locking to funk and disco.

the eighties roll around and people start 'break dancing'.

people didnt call it 'street dancing' at the time. street danicng was a term later invented to describe the actions AFTER poeple started doing them on the street.

so are we going to say that, since the term street dancing came AFTER the term locking, that locking cant possibly street dancing since it came first, and that street dancing is a sub-category of locking?

please.

[DJ egypt]

*reads the whole thread*
okay, im sorry, but i have to reply...

Originally posted by Effendi:
<STRONG>New York City!!!!! get a rope..........</STRONG>
LMFAO!!! hehehehehehe

Originally posted by BBKahuna:
<STRONG>Ya! Fuck faggots! I hate em too! They always put on their faggot shoes, and their faggot pants, jump in their faggot car, and drive in their faggy way to the rave, then they take e and thats when they get REALLY faggoty, they shake their faggy asses in a faggy manner all night long and then drive home to their faggy houses and have one great big faggy orgy. Fuck fags, they're SOOOO gay!</STRONG>
hahahahaHA! omg that was funny!!
lmfao(even more)

Originally posted by Padre:
<STRONG>it seemed as though the qestion was "what is a rave" and then instead of an answer all I saw was DnB guy lose his mind, and start some kkk raver madness. </STRONG>
*okay, im on the floor now*

thank you everyone for helping me loose some calories!

peace, plur, peaches, and FUCKING TEDDYBEARS,
egypt

[ 06-25-2001: Message edited by: DJ egypt ]

[firestarter]

ACK!!! who told you that. It is a place for music and dancing. Sure E-TARDS go for the drugs. but I myself go to be free on the dancefloor, to feel the love between the each kid that is feeling the same beat I am(have it be house, jungle,DnB) but dancing completely different.OMG that makes me feel awsome. I am a DANCER so of course if you ask me what a rave is I am going to tell you that it is about the music,the dancefloor, and the vibe.There is so much more I could say but I am really not in the mood to type it all down. so I cut it short but sweet! maybe if I ever meet you in person I can have a heart to heart w/ ya

[ 06-25-2001: Message edited by: firestarter ]

[sentriK]

Originally posted by Effendi:
<STRONG>DJ Sentrik for President!!!

nuff said!!!</STRONG>


Effendi For Vise-President!!! :D

Together, we promise a bright, and eNRGetic future!!!

/cheese :D

Peace -
K

[evilarchangel68]

sorry, dude. you obviously missed the point, jsut like kurt said everyone would !!!!!

its jsut ludicrous when poeple say that jungle cant possibly be described as drum and bass jsut because the term DNB came after.

read what i said about locking being a form of stret dancing even though the term street dancing came AFTER the term locking, and apply it to this argument. im not going to explian it to ya step by step so if you cant figure it out, tough.

im not explaining myself any further.

[DjNytestrike]

Zentrax: trance is only for fags and fake ass people on E that act all happy but when they come back down...they feel like shit again....bunch of homeless candykids with no jobs..lol...fuck trance...stay in the dnb room....and candykids stay in the fagget room dont go in the drum n bass room.
ps
what ta fuck is the deal with "trolls" that is soo gay...u guys are soo gay...oh man..dont u think ur too old to be at parties with teddy bears and other fagget shit?? u fucking faggets..


Wow... are you 12? If I ever see you at a house party that I'm spinnng at, I'm going to shine lights at you and tell everyone to trout-slap your close-minded bitch ass. Thank you... drive through.

[antiplur superstar]

first of there are 3 major 2-step DnB Sub genres, tech-step, dark-step, and two-step a.k.a. jump up.

its jsut ludicrous when poeple say that jungle cant possibly be described as drum and bass jsut because the term DNB came after.



that's not the issue. If we say the DnB is a different style of music (which in general i don't like to do but for the sake of this discusion we will say they are) then DnB evolved from Jungle.

Now though your two examples were interesting the line of reasoning if flawed. Lets say house did come into being after garage (which isn't true . . . they evolved almost simultaniously wiht house have a head start). House music didn't evolve from garage, house like garage evolved from disco.

now lets look at your street dancing example. street dancing is simply a renaming do to a change of venue and as a new blanket term for preexisting style of dance. It isn't a new for of dance that evolved for the old style.

The term DnB was given to a new movement in music from with in the already established jungle scene. To refer to Jungle as a sub genre is more akin to calling punk a sub genre of hardcore punk.


*i hate typos argh!!!*

[ 06-28-2001: Message edited by: Boogie Man the antiplur superstar ]

[evilarchangel68]

Originally posted by Boogie Man the antiplur superstar:
<STRONG>first of there are 3 major 2-step DnB Sub genres, tech-step, dark-step, and two-step a.k.a. jump up. </STRONG>

are you daft?

two-step is a VERY new term, and jump up is a fairly old term. who the hell convinced you that darkstep, tech step and jump up are subgenres of two step? two step derived from garage (which derived from HOUSE) and R&B. so...these jungle subgenres are derived form house now eh?

i dont know where you got this information from, but 2step is NOT, and i repeat, NOt drum and bass! it is not a subgenre of drum and bass! jump up jungle is NOT 2 step!

how would i know? because i actually listen to 2step.

ever heard of the artful dodger? or mj cole?

THATS 2STEP.

and all the sources ive looked into say that 2step is the new and evolved form of garage.

House music didn't evolve from house music, house like garage evolved from disco.

i know. im not stupid, i was jsut using that as an example.

you know, there is the genre of house. just the plain old term house. and while house may be a genre entirely of its own sound, you can still lump all the subgenres of it, in that term. people call garage house. people call funky house, just house. people call tribal house, just house. even though all those subgenres have their own names, you can still call them just plain old house if you feel like it.

i feel the same way about DNB. to me, while the term drum and bass may have its own sound, its still a term that can describe an over all sound. jungle is way more ragga-derived, and drum and bass is jsut the essentials (sped up break beats/fast drums and phat basslines).

anwyays. boring convo. there are plenty of people who agree wiht me on this, and obviously you arent one of em. i jsut highly suggest that you dont talk about 2step being derived from jungle, to a garage head, thedy probably ask you if you are joking...

[antiplur superstar]

two-step is a VERY new term, and jump up is a fairly old term. who the hell convinced you that darkstep, tech step and jump up are subgenres of two step? two step derived from garage (which derived from HOUSE) and R&B. so...these jungle subgenres are derived form house now eh?



ok first of yoiu have to realize there are two types of two-step . . . . two-stpe garage and plain old two-step. ok let's back up. Are you at all familiar with a DnB two step beat? Does two step DnB mean anything to you??? well i'm going to assume you don't. Well one of the main components of DnB was it's 2-step beat. That's why it became popular by giving jungle a 2-step beat it became more "dance able." Now DnB spawned a series of two-step genres. Jump up (which is aslo referred to as simply 2-step) which is the antehm version, tech step which is the more serious "techy" version, and dark step. all three genres use the same basice two step beat which lloks something like this . . .

beat 1_____beat 2________beat 3________beat 4___= 4 beats
1/4 rest___1/4 snare___1/8 kick1/8kick___1/4 snare_ = 4/4

there are veriations but most DnB two steps look like this. SOme times in stead of a rest to start out the measure it will have a simgle drum kick. Some time it will have a high hat tapping out 1/8 notes. But what all two step beats have is the snare drum beating out the second and forth beat hense the name "two step." and incedentally that is where tech step and dark step get their names. Quite simply tech step it a "techy" two step and dark step is a dark two step.

anouther thing. Garage did not in any way derive from house. It derived from disco. In fact it has been reffered to as poor mans disco. Lerry Levan is who is responsible for what would later be called garage.

Second 2-step GARAGE is not derived from garage in any way. Two step Garage evolved from Speed Garage, which also did not come from garage.

"For me when I first started to make Speedgarage, I didn't term it as Speedgarage. I'd been into drum and bass for years. The scenario was, I'm not gonna try and make drum and bass, I'm gonna take it and put it with house and see what happens. That's all it is, that's the birth of Speedgarage."-- Armand Van Helden, Grandfather of Speedgarage

So how it got deamed speed garage I will never know. *shrug*


jungle is way more ragga-derived, and drum and bass is jsut the essentials

jungle also has roots in old school hardcore. . . not im portant.

I don't think of DnB as just the essentials. It is a simplified Jungle beat made to be more dance floor freindly. I still don't see why DnB is a more appropiate name for the genre as a whole since DnB evloved from jungle. it is junlge not DnB that birthed the sound for the whole catagory . . *shrug*

[blue_sheep]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zentrax:
[QB]...junglist hate candykids..havent you noticed?????.....junglist DONT LIKE any candykids..so stay in your etard room....PLUR on this fucking cock..lol [QB]

I love Jungle. I can't go to a party where there isn't a few jungle djs. I stay in the jungle room all night... I do admit that whenever i go to a party i dont spend more than 5 minutes in the house room. That's just my choice of music.
On the other hand I have many friends that wear candy and give me candy that I wear frequently to remember that night. You made a great generalization that would make me embarassed to say I'm a junglist, but it doesn't affect me cuz you're dumb and you'll die soon (hopefully by the hand of a candy kid) cuz you're weak... you let yourself get bothered by others preferences way too easily, and you're homophobic (appearently)

Well, I can tell you what a rave is, in my opinion... it's a big party with electronic djs and a bunch of people you don't know, but you could get to know them and that'll make a little something more to look forward to when you go to raves... lots of people can be overwhelming, thats why you might wanna avoid massives at first (parties at the exhibition center for example) Smaller parties is where it's at...
The most important element is total exceptance of all types of all types of music and party kids... Thats my opinion...
Ruth

[ 07-02-2001: Message edited by: blue_sheep ]

[UrbanAssualtCutie]

2 Step and 2 step Garage are not the same thing! In fact they really aren't even easily confused with one another, my god!

[Bots]

Yeah when I think of Jungle I think of old skool jumbled beats... that stuff seems like a nightmare to beat match. I think of Drum n' Bass as a more evolved consolidated version of Jungle. Drum n' Bass is Jungle without all the superfluous beats and sounds when you get down to it. Jungle/Drum n' Bass definately has it's roots in Hardcore I agree. If you don't belive me check out Surreal Killer by hive or Lockdown by Digital, those are hybrid drum n' bass/Hardcore tracks. Hardcore and Drum n' bass can be mixed very well together so it's no wonder they're cousins.