did you hear about Speedy Gonzalas?

[StarSweet]

I think this is so funny, but did you know that the only network to actually show the speedy gonzalas cartoons anymore is the cartoon network, the show has been banned from all of the other networks because it poorly portrays the "mexican culture" it is always showing speedy getting drunk with his 'primo' or smoking cigars with his 'amigos', but what really cracks me up about this whole anti-speedy campaign, is that is is a bunch of white people that have started it, and mexicans are standing up saying they want the speedy cartoons to keep running. Personally, I like the cartoon and that's what it is JUST a cartoon, so let it go. I find the whole thing hilarious.

[Emcee Poet]

He doesn't make me laugh.

He just makes me change the channel.

[TeknoAXE]

Boo political correctness. All you freaks worried about a cartoon show should get outside a couple times a day. Go away. Shoo. You're ruining my fun and joyous day you overly sensitive, self-righteous crybabies.

AXE

[StarSweet]

it was something I caught on the radio this morning as I was driving to vancouver switching cd's. I remember watching it coming home from parties and it didn't bother me at all. I just thought it was kinda funny that a bunch of people were ripping a cartoon, exactly the fact...they mustn't have anything better to do with their lives.

[evilarchangel68]

thats really kinda...stupid...

i can see if he was constantly saying really derogitory shit that people might get upset....but, havent ALL the looney toons characters gotten drunk and smoked cigars?! AND chewed tobacco and smoked cigarettes?! theyve got to get more 'evidence' of racial slurs than some booze and some tobacco, especially when every other character has done it too. good god.

then again, i think its a pretty annoying cartoon anyways. i never watch it so i dont really care....

[Lunabella]

Yeah, its just a cartoon, but Its not funny. I completely agree with the tv stations hardly showing it -- the Speedy Gonzalez cartoon is a bad portrayal of Mexican culture. Its about time the networks did that. They have gone a little overboard with the "anti-speedy" campaign, but still no need for that culture to hold that type of stigma. No need for it.

[PulpMind]

I remember when I was a kid... and I would watch the Bugs Bunny and Daffy show, or whatever those re-runs were called back in the early 80's... and Bugs would dress up in black-face, and taunt the poor nigro's... =P I remember thinking it was a bit out of place, even as a kid, even when the networks still played it as a "classic cartoon"...
...it's too bad though, that there's no place to see these old cartoons readily - good for Cartoon Network, realizing that despite the fucked up messages of the past, there's much more to be recognized in the cartoons of the past. or something.

I'm sick and tired. good night.

Shu'kran,
- Jesiah -

[AlexNUMB]

Several years ago, I used to hang out with a bunch of mexicans. Like fresh over the border, no papers mexican guys.

They were pretty cool and all... Just... yeah, anyway...

They all loved Speedy Gonzalez! speedy was the shit. We used to watch Speedy tapes and nod out.

I dunno wtf is up with PC crap these days? fucking lame

[EviLreD]

really, they pulled amos 'n andy because the blacks folks DID object to it, but when the mexicans don't mind the cartoon, it makes me wonder who the protesters think they are protecting?

[s1n]

cartoons have always been fucked up. look at the old bugs bunny cartoons, they depict black people as mindless fools that play dice all day.

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by StarSweet
I think this is so funny, but did you know that the only network to actually show the speedy gonzalas cartoons anymore is the cartoon network, the show has been banned from all of the other networks because it poorly portrays the "mexican culture" it is always showing speedy getting drunk with his 'primo' or smoking cigars with his 'amigos', but what really cracks me up about this whole anti-speedy campaign, is that is is a bunch of white people that have started it, and mexicans are standing up saying they want the speedy cartoons to keep running. Personally, I like the cartoon and that's what it is JUST a cartoon, so let it go. I find the whole thing hilarious.

PC Police is at it again..

Ban Austin Powers, his character deplicts english people having bad teeth and their constantly horny..

Wacko's!

-Jason

[Kosmicdog]

http://www.barbarella.ch/images/Gifs/Speedy/speedy033.gif

I don't see what the problem is at all. Just like a real dirty Mexican Speedy is sneaky, Drinks lots of booze, is lazy and always needs to take a siesta.

[carl b!]

all it takes is a couple of dumb old ppl to fuck it all up

[Mike S]

The real question is what kind of dumb fuck actually thinks a cartoon is representative of an entire culture or people? I'm sorry but I watched good ol speedy when I was growing up and it never once made me think that his character was what a mexican person was like.. why? Because its a fucking cartoon!! Not reality. Duh! Get a goddamn grip.
What is it with these PC MoFo's that has them believing that we cant think for ourselves and differentiate between fanasy and reality and we therefor need them to step in and play nanny for us?

Get this... Last night I was watching the movie "midway" on TNN about the battle of midway during ww2.. A movie I've seen plenty of times sence I was a kid.. But..When I was a kid and they would show this movie on tv they used to delete the curse words out like "Ass" and "god damn" etc and leave in the deragotory terms for the Japanese that were commonly used in ww2 ..like "japs" and "nips". Now ALL the curse words are left in the movie but any deragotory racial terms are edited out. Give me a damn break. I think if we're adult enough to handle "God Damn" we're also old enough to handle "God Damn Japs" and dont need the PC thought police censoring out the "undesirable" language for, what they insist, is our own good.
Last time I checked if we didn't like what was being shown or said on a specific station we could get off our fat asses and change the channel.

MS

[Mike S]

I've heard and read similar stories several times and to think that this is the level of intellectual discourse that exists on some university campus' is scary. So was the main problem these people had with your ideas that you equated these migrant workers problems more with their own choices and behavior and not so much with their being repressed by society? Does it frieghten you that these people would go so far and do so much just because of the way you thought and that some of these same people may some day be in positions of power over other people?

MS



Originally posted by Deliberate
Ok personal story time.

This is why Eugene sucks! Or at least the UO. I was a Planning and Management Junior designing a program that would improve the living conditions for the Oregon migrant worker.
In our research we found that a disperportionate number of 1st, and to a lesser degree 2nd generation, field working migrants when compaired with the average Oregonian: saved less, drank more, suffered from less spacous living conditions, and expressed at least moderate satisfactions with current conditions. Upon further inquiry we found that this was primarily because of the relative luxury of conditions when compaired to their previous enviroments in Mexico. Furthermore, as we get beyond the initial generations and the workers become more Americanized the workers tend to involve themselves more in credit building activities, skilled labor, education, and they began to rent/buy appartments and homes on a more individual basis.
Our project goal was to speed up that process. To develop an advanced socialization program of sorts. To affect more 1st & 2nd generation immigrants.

Now I graduated from PSU because our group was literally run out of school. We mentioned the siesta. We mentioned the alcoholism. We went further to explain our theories on how its the individuals approach, ambition, and attitiute toward adapting that was keeping the new american down. Not a repressive society.

The professors (Hibbard and Rocha) were ex-70's demonstrators and thought it was great that their students were getting the "power to the people" experienced. They encouraged a feeding frenzy and we were attacked. There was a sit in "hey hey ho ho racism has got to go." Thirty people got arrested. When it was over I was interviewed by three newspapers and two televisions stations. My friend and fellow group presenter who happened to be the head of the Intrafreternity Council lost his post. Another was flat out expelled for gender specific sexual harrasment (he told one particular bitch what she was), and I moved to Portland to avoid the heartless republican stigma that had been attached to me.

There was another time when I said, in a normal conversational tone and volume, the word retarded in a crouded starbucks. I was reffering to a mentally challenged person in a non derogitory way. In fact we were organizing a charity function to help raise money for an organization of them. Well when I said it the room went quite. Like I had just hopped up on the table and pulled down my pants quiet.

Ill never go back. Not even to visit.
If you ain't paying me... your PC rules can blow me.

[carl b!]

There was another time when I said, in a normal conversational tone and volume, the word retarded in a crouded starbucks. I was reffering to a mentally challenged person in a non derogitory way. In fact we were organizing a charity function to help raise money for an organization of them. Well when I said it the room went quite. Like I had just hopped up on the table and pulled down my pants quiet.

i worked for value village, and they donated to a charity called Northwest Center for the Retarded. if someone at the head of a charity can use the word and it is interpreted in a non-derogitory way, how come people on the street cant use the word too, even if its in the same context?

wierdos.

the people in that town it happened in really *must* suck.

[HBK]

Originally posted by Kosmicdog

I don't see what the problem is at all. Just like a real dirty Mexican Speedy is sneaky, Drinks lots of booze, is lazy and always needs to take a siesta. [/B]

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Are you joking? I don't know if your Mexican or what and I personally don't have beef with what you wrote, but damn there is too many Mexicans around here to be saying that shit and they'll cut your throat.

[Kosmicdog]

Of course I'm joking
http://members.aol.com/gritopoetry/homies.jpg

And watch out fool, cause my homies got my back

[HBK]

Originally posted by Kosmicdog


And watch out fool, cause my homies got my back [/B]
Sorry vato, I didnt know you were loco.

[TangentBoy]

this is just a plot to get another mexican off the air dammit.....I think that might be all of them

[Hookups]

Speedy kicks ass. He beats Sylvester's ass any time he feels like it. If he boozes it up and takes a siesta here and there, so what? He still dominates Sylvester at every turn. If I were Mexican, I would be proud. After all, Sylvester is clearly a US citizen and Speedy has no problem offering him humiliating defeat after humiliating defeat.

I think Speedy got yanked off the air because some fat patriotic execs were offended at the idea of a Mexican defeating a US citizen. The probably didn't like the idea that a drunk, well-rested mexican mouse could defeat the crown jewel of the United States' cartoon cats.

[Mike S]

This was taken from Foxnews.com's Tongue Tied - PC Patrol section, ya gotta love the end where it mentions the places speedy is still popular.



Speedy's Exile

Cartoon character Speedy Gonzales has been deemed an offensive ethnic stereotype of Mexicans, and has been off the air since the Cartoon Network became the sole U.S. broadcaster of old Warner Brothers cartoons in late 1999.

Speedy's association with a coterie of drunken Mexican mice who lounge around the village, and his lazy cousin, Slowpoke Rodriguez, portrays Mexicans in a bad light, the network believes.

"We're not about pushing the boundary," said Cartoon Network spokeswoman Laurie Goldberg. "We're not HBO. We have a diverse audience and we have an impressionable audience."

There is one place where Speedy can still be found zipping across TV screens, however, a place where the crude stereotypes he embodies don't touch a cultural nerve. That place is the Cartoon Network Latin America (including Mexico), where Speedy Gonzales is hugely popular.

[Ashlee]

Dood that's just sad! I have always loved Speedy. When I was 5 I had a mouse named "Speedy Gonzalas." He died tho, after that I had 3 more mice named "Speedy Gonzalas!" hehe I was an odd kid. :P

[kyoung22]

Originally posted by Ashlee
When I was 5 I had a mouse named "Speedy Gonzalas."

Holy Crap!! So did I!
...except I wasn't 5, I think I was about 10.

that mouse gave me lots of baby mice to play with ;)

[Hookups]

There is one place where Speedy can still be found zipping across TV screens, however, a place where the crude stereotypes he embodies don't touch a cultural nerve. That place is the Cartoon Network Latin America (including Mexico), where Speedy Gonzales is hugely popular.


I think this speaks volumes.

[evilarchangel68]

bump

[Tecknowledgy]

Speedy Gonzoles is a stupid character. He doesn't and never did deserve his own cartoon. Fuck Speedy Gonzoles, fuck him up his stupid ass.