Rodney King II?

[Hookups]

I saw a video this morning of police in California basically beating a 16-year old boy. The kid was already in handcuffs when one of the 5 officers present slams him down HARD onto the patrol car, with what appears to be enough force to give the boy a concussion. Later in the video the same officer punches the still-handcuffed boy in the face with great force. The lad was in handcuffs, obviously not in a position to resist arrest and definitely not in a position which warranted him being assaulted by the police.

Interestingly, I was unable to find any news articles about this online (although my search was fairly brief). Not on CNN, MSNBC, Reuters, AP, or even Google news. Strange...I sort of wonder if the news agencies are afraid of letting this potentially explosive issue reach the public.

Edited to add: It probably goes without saying, but the boy was black and the police were white.

[Carley]

Where did you see it?

I saw it on:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Police%20Video and
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38541-2002Jul8.html

[Hookups]

I saw it on tv this morning. I did make the disclaimer that my search for articles online was brief...

The passenger, whose name was being withheld, was booked for investigation of assault on a police officer.

Of course, the police officer isn't charged with assaulting a handcuffed and helpless teenager. He's probably saying to himself, "Thank God I'm white."

[A.J.]

http://tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6670

[mchll888]

Originally posted by Hookups
I saw it on tv this morning. I did make the disclaimer that my search for articles online was brief...



Of course, the police officer isn't charged with assaulting a handcuffed and helpless teenager. He's probably saying to himself, "Thank God I'm white."
I know everyone loves a good race issue but, I've seen plenty of "punk white kids" being harrased and phyisically harmed by police officers and nothing is said about it because there is no "racial discrimination".
I think racial issues are just put into the spotlight becuase of what they are. I'm here to stand up for the white, hispanic, asian......(don't want to list them all) kids as well !!!!!
I thought this last statement was great until the "thank god I'm white" If you would have left as is before that (no race included) it would have been a good point.
Stand up for ALL teens being harassed by police officers.

[186k\sec]

good point - Michelle
unfortunatley, his defense will weigh heavy on the race issue. - Especially since its LA again.. & their force has a pattern of profiling, and discrimination..
I saw the footage clip on Fox.. its pretty hard to watch..

the cops (about 4 or 5 -each built like Navy seals) were slamming a 100lb. high school kid - while cuffed into the trunk of a car... then > this is where its obvious - Police Brutality... a cop punches the kid in the face like he wants to kill him, all while the kid is motionless, face-down on the trunk of the car..
this seems to be worse than Rodney King insident, the initial stop was for a suspended liscence.. no chase.. - the kid was a passenger. - the worst i can imagine the police encountering with him - still doesnt warrant their response.. it was all after he'd been apprehended.

no officers have been suspended..

[mchll888]

Originally posted by 186k\sec
good point - Michelle
unfortunatley, his defense will weigh heavy on the race issue. - Especially since its LA again.. & their force has a pattern of profiling, and discrimination..
I saw the footage clip on Fox.. its pretty hard to watch..

the cops (about 4 or 5 -each built like Navy seals) were slamming a 100lb. high school kid - while cuffed into the trunk of a car... then > this is where its obvious - Police Brutality... a cop punches the kid in the face like he wants to kill him, all while the kid is motionless, face-down on the trunk of the car..
this seems to be worse than Rodney King insident, the initial stop was for a suspended liscence.. no chase.. - the kid was a passenger. - the worst i can imagine the police encountering with him - still doesnt warrant their response.. it was all after he'd been apprehended.

no officers have been suspended..
Holy shit. I haven't seen the footage but that is brutal. This shit makes me sick. yeah I do agree that the race issue will weigh heavy but I don't think that all issues are about race even if they may initailly seem to be. ( I am in no way making that statement about this incident, just a general statement)

I feel for the kid and the community!

[Hookups]

I know everyone loves a good race issue but, I've seen plenty of "punk white kids" being harrased and phyisically harmed by police officers and nothing is said about it because there is no "racial discrimination".

That's why I hope that the officers involved in this get sent to San Quentin to be assraped for many years. Not because of the racial issue, but because stuff like this happens a lot more than we think. As a result, the police need an occasional reminder: "Yes, we're watching you. When you abuse the authority we give you, you're going to pay." Odds are, most of us have more to fear from unfair treatment by the police than we do from terrorism.

On the other hand, 'the system' could choose to slap them on the wrists and we could all watch the "LA is on fire" show for a week or two. It's all the same to me.

How did that Sublime song go...?

[Justin]

ugh.

Poor kid. Hope he's not brain damaged or anything.

I can't wait for the usual conservative whines like

"But they have a hard job!!!"

Way to go for personal accountability. Oh, I forgot, accountability stops when either a CEO or cop was involved. Shit like this makes me hate those who voted for Bush more than anything. Cops will always be cops, but cop apologists are just inexcusable.

[Dave Science]

You can watch the video here

http://www.msnbc.com/news/777480.asp

fuck cnn and their 11 cent a day fee to watch videos now!

[JD-Funk]

Yea I watched this last night this just goes to show the power cops "think" they have this is not just neccisarly a race thing its a ego thing and a power thing. Unfortunatly they let just about anyone become a cop who has done collage. I think this is very sickning, the fucked up thing is they gave the cop a suspinsion "with" pay what kinda of bullshit is that? I just wish more footage would be caught on tape like what happened here cause the truth is, a tape don't lie

[Zillah1221]

The suspension with pay is a typical thing to do. They have to perform an investigation into all the events that lead up to it. And if you notice, not saying this shows anymore) the video isn't the full incident. Who knows what the kid may have done right before, or what his legs may have been doing or anything. It's hard to not want to be sympathetic to the seeming victim, but sometimes people jump into issues before knowing anything. But just to have a comparison, often if a teacher or school worker is accused of rape or child abuse or somthing, they go on leave with pay. Because you have to investigate. Just think how that would affect that person if they weren't guilty, no pay, but still having to find lawyers and pay for extra costs as well as their life and family.

[AthenA]

Did anyone happen to watch the news last night? They interviewed the kid and his dad...And the kid is just fine. Yes, this particular case is fucked up, but let's not paint the entire police force with the same brush.

"I can't wait for the usual conservative whines like

"But they have a hard job!!!""

They do. They have to be civil to the most evil scum on earth...and we expect them to be unbias, unemotional robots that follow the book verbatum. Granted, this cop fucked up big time. Hitting a kid who is already handcuffed is unexcuseable. Allowing anyone who has a BA in criminal justice to become a cop is flat out wrong. However, I have found that when issues like this arise, kids become generally disrespectful to cops. Not this cop...not these cops, but all of them. And being rude to a cop just for being a cop isn't any better than that cop hitting that kid for being black, or delinquent, or whatever he decided to hit him for.

Some of them still have your best interests in mind.

[burnt]

Did anyone happen to watch the news last night? They interviewed the kid and his dad...And the kid is just fine.

from cnn.com (http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/08/police.video/index.html)

...his son suffered the brunt of the blows, he added, injuring his eyes, nose, ear, and doing more subtle damage, too, he said.

"At nighttime, he's scared to go to sleep by himself at night. Wakes up screaming, scared of police. Scared to go outside by himself. He's frightened."

Family members said Donovan -- who attends special education classes -- has a hearing problem and a speech impediment and is sometimes slow to react, but that he would have been unlikely to provoke police.

"Donovan has always been a subdued child," said Talibah Shakir, his cousin. "He is quiet and doesn't bother anyone."

******
he attends Special Education classes? are telling me that 5 cops were scared that a quiet, meek retard was gonna kick their asses?

.........I'm just sayin......they threw him like a ragdoll, after he was cuffed. he wasn't resisting. and he certainly posed no threat.

[EV]

As usual, there's more to this than meets the eye. Or in this case, the video. Though all (most) of the above responses would generally be met with a nod of agreement from yours truly, I have to differentiate this between your traditional Angelean cases of white-on-black police brutality.

In the video, we see a black kid surrounded by three (3) police officers, two of whom are white. One of the white officers undeniably slams Donovan (the black, 16-year old suspect) onto the car, and proceeds to strike him in the face after words are uttered between the two.

Background: A car, driven by Donovan's father (also black), was getting gas at the station. The car had expired tags, inspiring these Inglewood (not L.A.) Police Department officers to question the father, who also was in possession of a suspended Driver's License.

While the IPD questioned the father, Donovan was returning from inside the gas station and...this is where the facts become cloudy...he either:

1) was attacked and beaten maliciously and without cause due to the fact that he is black. This is corroborated by both father and son, the latter of which is partially deaf and has a learning disability.
-or-
2) lunged at the officer, causing a gash on said officer's left temple - clearly visable on the videotape - thus leading to the events on the video tape.

Now since the video only shows what happened from the point that Donovan was on the ground until the end of the debacle, we are once again left to decide if this was indeed a case of unreasonable or excessive force.

Being from L.A. and seeing police treatment of minorities and youth in general, I tend to side with the victim on these cases. However, the gash on the officer's head and the recent light on the department due to the decades-old allegations of police abuse lead me to believe that there is perhaps just cause for this use of force.


EV

[mchll888]

Originally posted by LA2SeattlEV
As usual, there's more to this than meets the eye. Or in this case, the video. Though all (most) of the above responses would generally be met with a nod of agreement from yours truly, I have to differentiate this between your traditional Angelean cases of white-on-black police brutality.

In the video, we see a black kid surrounded by three (3) police officers, two of whom are white. One of the white officers undeniably slams Donovan (the black, 16-year old suspect) onto the car, and proceeds to strike him in the face after words are uttered between the two.

Background: Donovan was waiting in the gas station in a car driven by his father (also black). The car had expired tags, inspiring these Inglewood (not L.A.) Police Department officers to question the father, who also was in possession of a suspended Driver's License.

While the IPD questioned the father, Donovan was returning from inside the gas station and...this is where the facts become cloudy...he either:

1) was attacked and beaten maliciously and without cause due to the fact that he is black. This is corroborated by both father and son, the latter of which is partially deaf and has a learning disability.
-or-
2) lunged at the officer, causing a gash on said officer's left temple - clearly visable on the videotape - thus leading to the events on the video tape.

Now since the video only shows what happened from the point that Donovan was on the ground until the end of the debacle, we are once again left to decide if this was indeed a case of unreasonable or excessive force.

Being from L.A. and seeing police treatment of minorities and youth in general, I tend to side with the victim on these cases. However, the gash on the officer's head and the recent light on the department due to the decades-old allegations of police abuse lead me to believe that there is perhaps just cause for this use of force.


EV

Damn sherlock........

[burnt]

I don't give a fuck if that kid smacked a cop first. that *still* doesn't excuse a *gang* of cops retaliating on a restrained suspect.

they
punched
that
boy
on
purpose
with
intent
to
harm
him.....

....and thats against the law, for a police officer to do that.
so fuck em if they "have a really tough job" or whatever.....there are no excuses for that kind of savage behavior.

[186k\sec]

Inglewood (not L.A.)

thats like saying Ballard... not Seattle..
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p

[AthenA]

"I don't give a fuck if that kid smacked a cop first. that *still* doesn't excuse a *gang* of cops retaliating on a restrained suspect.

they
punched
that
boy..."


See...this is exactly what I am talking about. *One* of the cops hit that kid. Granted, none of the others stepped in, but whether or not they too can be held responsible is a matter of personal morality.

And Burnt...Are you honestly saying that you've never done anything illegal, and you've never stood by and watched some kid get his ass beat for some bullshit reason? You wouldn't smack a kid who smacked you or a friend of yours...especially if he was restrained?

I am not defending these cops. Like I said before...what they did was fucked up and inexcuseable. I just hate hearing kids who have never been in that situation acting like they couldn't imagine reacting like those officers did. We have to remember that although those men were cops who should be trained to react more reasonably than that, they are also humans like you and me, and humans entrusted with so much authority tend to fuck up.

Talk to a cop one of these days. Ask them to tell you a story about some of the fucked up things they go through every day of their lives. You'll be shocked and appalled, I guarantee. And then ask yourself how you might have reacted in some of those situations.

[seattle science]

Nobody forces people to be policemen. Staying cool under pressure is a part of the job description, so if you can't handle those things adequately, then dont be a cop. Period. No matter what led up to the beating, there is absolutely no justification for what happened to that boy. He was in handcuffs, and completely subdued.

[EV]

Originally posted by 186k\sec
Inglewood (not L.A.) - thats like saying Ballard... not Seattle..

Umm...not really. Unless Ballard has their own Police Department, replete with its own budget, resource allocation, training program, academy, Chief, and set of internal rules and regulations, as well as protocol when determining discipline in certain scenarios such as the Donovan case.


EV

[Justin]

It's been shown time and time agian that logging is the most dangerous job in America. I bet cold water fishing is up on the list too. But when they have a hard day, and they overreact and get in a fight in the bar, they have to face the full force of the law.

I'm not saying they are neccessarily guilty, but I'm sick of cops getting off no matter what becuse (sob) they have a hard job.

[AthenA]

I never said there was justification...I thought I made that very clear. However, there is a considerable difference between staying cool under pressure (i.e. I am trained to handle over 10 calls at one time, and I deal with many angry and tense people every day), and staying calm while being attacked. I am not referring to this situation. I am merely stating a case for those officers who have been affected by this tragidy that they had nothing to do with. All I'm saying is that police are human too...and for any of you to expect the handful that screw up not to is ridiculous.

We don't like it when "ravers" are refered to as a bunch of junkies and drop outs just because a handful of us happen to be. You'd think that this particular group of people would be more considerate considering.

My boyfriend's aunt is a very revered police officer in the L.A. department, and one of the most wonderful human beings I have ever met. Soon after news broke out of this incident, she pulled over a car for wreckless driving. When she approached the car and explained why the driver had been pulled over, he called her a "cracker fuckin' cunt bitch", and asked if she was going to handcuff him and beat the shit out of him "like your boys did to that one kid". She asked the driver to please giver her his license and registration, at which point he became even more vulgar, attempted to grab her chest, and sped off. She didn't deserve it...and if she had decided to handcuff his bitch ass and slap him around a little...I would wholeheartedly understand. The right thing to do? No. But people react how they react.

[seattle science]

That little tale about your boyfriend's aunt is a real tearjerker all right, but if she can't handle having somebody call her bad names, then she has the right to turn in her badge anytime she wants.

[burnt]

*********
heh.....yea......whatever. just like I'm snickering at all these pig fuckers running around my office, stressin over their plummetting portfolios, I'm laughing out loud at your aunt. someone dissed her n' shit........and drove off.......and she stood there with a blank look on her face, huh? oops, sucks to be a white lady cop in the ghetto....especially in these hard times 'n shit.

yea, no matter what "facts" the courts determine, its *still* gonna be a real stressful 9 months or so for John Law. thats funny....and like you say, all because a couple of bad apples deliberately beat the shit out of a semi-disabled teenager. oops, they did it again!

[angry_bob]

Originally posted by Hookups


That's why I hope that the officers involved in this get sent to San Quentin to be assraped for many years. Not because of the racial issue, but because stuff like this happens a lot more than we think. As a result, the police need an occasional reminder: "Yes, we're watching you. When you abuse the authority we give you, you're going to pay." Odds are, most of us have more to fear from unfair treatment by the police than we do from terrorism.

On the other hand, 'the system' could choose to slap them on the wrists and we could all watch the "LA is on fire" show for a week or two. It's all the same to me.

How did that Sublime song go...?

No shit... I wish I had a small camcorder so I could sit at the Beaverton TC and watch cops harrass the mexicans all day...

[HBK]

Originally posted by angry_bob


No shit... I wish I had a small camcorder so I could sit at the Beaverton TC and watch cops harrass the mexicans all day...

AMEN! Max cops are the worst. They act like thier guarding Fort fucking Knox.

It's cool, everytime they fuck with me, I run. Haven't been caught once. HA HA.

[DJ Rawkus]

Originally posted by burnt

they
punched
that
boy
on
purpose
with
intent
to
harm
him.....

....and thats against the law, for a police officer to do that.
..it's not against the law if they have reasonable (which is arbitrary and null IMO ) doubt on a suspect. Had the kid been retaining a baggie under his tongue, i could see why he might get clocked so hard, but this kid is developmentally disabled. He's slow to react, and therefore the cops may have thought he was being a hardass and ignoring their request..whatever they were..we may never know thanks to modern video editing techniques. Maybe they thought he was doped up, who knows! I'm not making excuses for them. I'm just throwing some ideas out there... and i agree the race card shouldn't be played, but c'mon this is LA we talkin 'bout here. :rolleyes:

[burnt]

bullshit dude.

again, no offense brudda, and I know its twice in one day.

but there's no excuse for cold clocking a handcuffed suspect.
none. no laws that I know of that back that kind of behavior up.

and the fact that he's half-retarded only makes it more embarrassing for everyone involved...heh, including the "hardasses" that are slow to respond.

[angelwings]

Originally posted by mchll888

I know everyone loves a good race issue but, I've seen plenty of "punk white kids" being harrased and phyisically harmed by police officers and nothing is said about it because there is no "racial discrimination".
I think racial issues are just put into the spotlight becuase of what they are. I'm here to stand up for the white, hispanic, asian......(don't want to list them all) kids as well !!!!!
I thought this last statement was great until the "thank god I'm white" If you would have left as is before that (no race included) it would have been a good point.
Stand up for ALL teens being harassed by police officers.

As much as I am sure you and I both wish that this incident and incidents like it are not based on race the fact of the matter is that this is Inglewood! And I wish it wasnt true but the racial issues between black men/boys (since the "victim" here was a BOY) and white men (and even more specifically white cops) is a huge issue in this community.

Originally posted by 186k\sec


thats like saying Ballard... not Seattle..
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p

Have you ever been to Inglewood??? There IS a pretty distinct difference between LA and Inglewood!!

I hope the police and the courts find out exactly what happened during this event and accordingly punish whoever is found to be at fault for this horrific incident.

[ZupanGOD]

People here are quick to call this one without all the facts and without even the investigation done.

[Star_Dancer]

There is no reason to use physical force on a suspect once that suspect has been subdued. The suspect was in handcuffs and properly subdued. Whether he was struggling or not makes no difference. Use of force is authorized to capture, subdue, and prevent a suspect from escaping. Not to co-erce the supsect into answering questions, not into getting him to co-operate. At that point if you have the handcuffs on him he should be put in the squad car and read his rights.

What those officers did was wrong. Bottom line. Even if the boy was not co-operating to the fullest and attempting to struggle, by then it was a moot point. That officer hit the kid out of anger/frustration/adrenaline/control issues. Many officers do. The only real reason they get away with it is because often times those they hit are arrested, charged, and convicted. That in the publics eyes makes it allright, if your a criminal, your rights are gone. We are almost trained from birth to follow certain rules. In School you generally don't question a teacher. You don't question law enforcement to their face either.

*shrug* whether that kid did try to hit the police officer or not is besides the point. If he was subdued and restrained there was no reason for any further force.

[seattle science]

Originally posted by ZupanGOD
People here are quick to call this one without all the facts and without even the investigation done.

You are joking right? You must be joking, because I really don't think that you are this dense. The man was subdued. You don't beat a defenseless man. What he did leading up to that tape = meaningless. It wouldn't matter if he had just gone on a killing spree in a local preschool. He was subdued and cuffed. I hope the fleas of a million camels infest the pubic area of the cop who hit him.

[EV]

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/11/police.beating/index.html

The man who shot the video, Michael Crooks, was arrested today on charges "unrelated" to the actual video. Apparently, he had two warrants out in Northern California and did not show up for the Grand Jury


EV

[HexRei]

Originally posted by ZupanGOD
People here are quick to call this one without all the facts and without even the investigation done.

The video I saw very clearly showed a handcuffed kid held down against a car while a cop hit him. There is no excuse, period. All an investigation will determine is whether he loses his badge or is issued actual criminal charges. And in all likelihood the victim will file a civil suit as well. With great power comes great responsibility and this cop abused it.

[DJ Rawkus]

Originally posted by Star_Dancer
Use of force is authorized to capture, subdue, and prevent a suspect from escaping. Not to co-erce the supsect into answering questions, not into getting him to co-operate. Have you ever seen the inside of a retention facility? Have you experienced the "law" widely practiced within those buildings? I have. Use of physical force, manipulation, and blackmail is used all the time in retaining knowledge against the suspect. I am not advocating it's presence, i am merely saying that what is written in law and what is actually exhibited are two vastly different worlds. If they do this kinda shit to a cuffed retarded kid in broad daylight, think about the stuff behind closed doors.Originally posted by burnt
bullshit dude.

again, no offense brudda, and I know its twice in one day.

but there's no excuse for cold clocking a handcuffed suspect.
none. no laws that I know of that back that kind of behavior up.
...that's why it's called "personal interpretation of the law". You are as aware as i am that the badge is a powerful symbol and most of the time means you are free to take "defensive measures". I've seen cops cold clocking cuffed suspects before in a "defensive measure" so that the suspect wouldn't strike later (in much the same fashion as TWAT "we strike you down this tuesday before u get the chance next tuesday") or to subdue them later for questioning. Once again, i see the point u make and agree with you, im just stating things as they really are and trying to contrast with how the law says it should be.

[Star_Dancer]

So have I. My parents are both cops. I grew up in a police department and know exactly how they work. What happens before and after a person is booked is extremely different. I haven't found a copy of this video yet so I can't see, but more than likelly his rights weren't read yet, which means he was not yet under arrest.

This was the street, not an interrogation chamber.

Originally posted by DJ Rawkus
Have you ever seen the inside of a retention facility? Have you experienced the "law" widely practiced within those buildings? I have. Use of physical force, manipulation, and blackmail is used all the time in retaining knowledge against the suspect. I am not advocating it's presence, i am merely saying that what is written in law and what is actually exhibited are two vastly different worlds. If they do this kinda shit to a cuffed retarded kid in broad daylight, think about the stuff behind closed doors.

[Boyd Main]

Inglewood, always up to no good.....

[akoni]

This issue was CLEARLY not a race issue.

that area in los angeles county consists of
49% african american
19% white
the rest are mexican, aisan, and native american

please kids, stop the race bullshit, its not as big as everyone makes it out to be

but the way I think of it.....if the cop gets off free on it....

ITS TIME TO RIOT BABY
whos up for some looting LoL

[Hookups]

Originally posted by akoni

ITS TIME TO RIOT BABY
whos up for some looting LoL

Kewl, I can finally get all that alcohol I can't afford...

[HBK]

Originally posted by akoni
This issue was CLEARLY not a race issue.

that area in los angeles county consists of
49% african american
19% white
the rest are mexican, aisan, and native american

please kids, stop the race bullshit, its not as big as everyone makes it out to be

but the way I think of it.....if the cop gets off free on it....

ITS TIME TO RIOT BABY
whos up for some looting LoL

You're right. Out of the four cops I saw on the video, 2 were white, 1 was black, and one was Latino.

This was an equal oppurtunity abuse of power.

[akoni]

I just dont think it was a race issue. The kid is calling it racial cause he was black but I dont see that the case. I think the cop was just acting too much like a hard ass and he got caught.....

This kind of shit goes on daily, almost never caught on tape, but it does happen all the time. Once your handcuffed, your helpless.

Thats whats fucked up....that cop is the kinda guy that beats his wife for not cooking dinner on time, beats his kid for loosing the baseball game, has a self confidence issue, and a drinkin problem.

I think they should let that kid go one on one with that punk cop, I bet that kid would fuck him up ;)

[DJ Rawkus]

i bet your an idiot who talks out of his ass, and i KNOW that kid would lose (even uncuffed) based on the evidence released about his physical ability. Try again, buster.

[akoni]

oh ya hes handycaped....my bad
more reason someone should bust his nose up

I bet that kids mom would fuck his shit up....
and probably all of south central if this cop gets off ;)

[186k\sec]

Have you ever been to Inglewood???

yes - but it doesnt matter. both cities have had a multitude of brutality lawsuites

There IS a pretty distinct difference between LA and Inglewood!!

yeah , there is a difference, Inglewood is more ghetto, but my piont was the difference in attitude between thier officers isnt much ... they both have had problems with profiling, discrimination, racism, and abuse..
in fact officer Morse - has already had pending allegations of abuse:

"Local KCAL-TV reported that a second man, 32-year-old Neilson Williams, had filed a complaint against Morse two weeks earlier, after he was allegedly beaten into a coma by the officer and six of his colleagues during an arrest. "

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/reuters/asia-114337.html

[186k\sec]

"He's pretty sad. He's shook up," he said. "He really wants to be a police officer and he's hoping and praying that he'll make it back."

he should just submit his resignation, and go work at the mall.

http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/news/0702/12morse.html

[burnt]

yea, but according to CNN that other drunk dude Neilson Williams also, like, totally deserved it.

a news release issued by the Police Department on June 26 said officers -- answering a call of a disturbance by a group at Ash Park, which they said had been the location of gang activity -- encountered Williams, who "became belligerent and uncooperative."

They said officers believed Williams was under the influence "of some type of drug and/or alcohol."

In attempting to arrest the 6-foot-4, 300-pound Williams, the statement said, "officers utilized a carotid restraint hold ... in order to overcome his resistance."

Police said that when Williams stopped fighting the hold was released. At that time they noticed "Williams was breathing but not conscious. The police officers immediately summoned paramedics and monitored his breathing. Within minutes suspect Williams was transported to nearby Centinela Hospital." (http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/10/police.beating/index.html)

when are all these drunks and retards gonna learn to have a little RESPECT for good 'ol fashioned western peacemakers?

but seriously folks...I do find it pretty damn funny that the only person arrested during this whole mess - was the dude who taped the fucking thing!

[angelwings]

Originally posted by 186k\sec


yes - but it doesnt matter. both cities have had a multitude of brutality lawsuites

yeah , there is a difference, Inglewood is more ghetto, but my piont was the difference in attitude between thier officers isnt much ... they both have had problems with profiling, discrimination, racism, and abuse..
in fact officer Morse - has already had pending allegations of abuse:



I totally agree...the fact that both of these areas have large issues with police brutality and the attitude between a cop and a resident there leaves much to be desired, I think makes this tape even more paramount. The fact is that these issues need to be faced and steps need to be taken to correct these happenings.

[DJ Rawkus]

Originally posted by burnt


but seriously folks...I do find it pretty damn funny that the only person arrested during this whole mess - was the dude who taped the fucking thing! You call it humour, i call it a circumvention of the system..it's a typical good ole boy tactic. It's like rosco lookin up the record on daisy after she witnesses him crackin the stick over Uncle Jedd's head. It also means this guy won't be able to testify cuz he'll be wrapped up in his proceedings. Outstanding warrants or not, i think this latest move to get off scot free just shows how far the PD will go to do it.

[angelwings]

Today in the newspaper (USAToday) the attorney of the police officer shown in the tape claimed that the kid (before being handcuffed) was resisting and "pulled, scratched and fought" and that when the kid was handcuffed on the trunk of the car and the officer punched him the kid was "grabbing his testicles"....the truth??

[DJ Rawkus]

yeah! he was prolly sayin to the cop "DEEZNUTS BIATCH!" DEEZNUTS!" :D