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Mike S
07-18-2002, 12:52 PM
OK So I'm sitting here at work trying to listen to some new discs and a couple of em wont play on my computer cd player because of some retarded copy protection. I heard that if I take a sharpy or a felt pen and draw over the edge of the cd this will "fix" this problem. Is it true and if so which edge to I draw over.

Mike

Enkidu Kind
07-18-2002, 12:54 PM
Wow. I always thought that copy-protection on certain CDs was a myth. Like the one about the cable company being able to detect if you are stealing cable by sending a "signal" thru to your TV and back. (They can't do that, BTW. It's all a big lie to scare you away from stealing cable, so steal away. :D)

~Chris

biscuits
07-18-2002, 12:55 PM
the very edge of it, most cds have the first track only copy protected

and on another note, dont buy copy protected cds, i refuse to support any artist who agrees to having copy protection on there cd

Roddimus
07-18-2002, 12:56 PM
Draw over the edge closest to the hole in the middle.
The first track on copy protected CDs contains scrambled code that kills some computers (Macs especially).
On some discs you can make out the first track (it looks seperated from the rest of the disc).
Gotta love the record industry!

burnt
07-18-2002, 01:00 PM
heh.....heheheh......its so tempting to make you do the equivalent of "pressing Alt+F4" on your brand-new CD .......naaaaaaaaa =)

its on the outer ring, on the bottom or shiny side. look for either some little numbers, or a little bar code. the newer versions will have transparent text, so look carefully.

draw a little line over the top of the data, cover it all up. now play your song (are you trying to play these on a Macintosh btw? because they should play on any typical WinOS.)

Mike S
07-18-2002, 01:09 PM
Thanks guys. :)


This is rediculous because I do all my encoding and recording to get stuff on to the groovetech website via my computer and to have to do this everytime to be able to create an audio sample so we can sell the damn thing is pathetic.

Back to work..

Mike

And for the person who doesnt want to support artists that do this.. Just so you know what CD it was its the new Sasha CD.

Roddimus
07-18-2002, 01:27 PM
Haha...Looks like some of the record companies are shooting themselves in the foot with this copy protection shit.
No audio samples = lower online CD sales.

outoftowner
07-18-2002, 01:40 PM
NO, NO, NO

My dad is an engineer for Sony, Compact Disc Department. First of all, copy protection is real....what you need to do is take a black sharpie and draw the anarchy sign on the back of the cd. This will let the computer know that this cd is not to be fucked with. Next, take a piece of sandpaper and sand the outer edge of the cd. Then take a lighter and hold the open flame to the cd for at least 30 seconds.

Justin
07-18-2002, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Roddimus
Haha...Looks like some of the record companies are shooting themselves in the foot with this copy protection shit.
No audio samples = lower online CD sales.

Just like employers who are viciously anti-union. Sometimes it's not about the bottom line. It's about control.

HexRei
07-18-2002, 02:05 PM
And comically, this just prevents the initial perfect digital rip. Anyone can still play this CD in a normal stereo, take a near-perfect analog rip, and then digitiall distribute it.
Even if they had unbreakable copy protection, it wouldn't fix the "analog hole".

A.J.
07-18-2002, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by HexRei
And comically, this just prevents the initial perfect digital rip. Anyone can still play this CD in a normal stereo, take a near-perfect analog rip, and then digitiall distribute it.
Even if they had unbreakable copy protection, it wouldn't fix the "analog hole".



mmmmmm..... holes



sorry you guys were saying?

SoulKid
07-18-2002, 02:21 PM
Might want to check if the original CD is 80minute/700MB and your blank CD is only 74minute/650MB. I have seen that the CD will "fully copy", but when you play the dupe, it gets an error due to the inconsistent media compared to the original. But, I'm only babbling but still worth checking out.

tallcan
07-18-2002, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by HexRei
And comically, this just prevents the initial perfect digital rip. Anyone can still play this CD in a normal stereo, take a near-perfect analog rip, and then digitiall distribute it.
Even if they had unbreakable copy protection, it wouldn't fix the "analog hole".
tru dat.

burnt
07-18-2002, 07:09 PM
This is rediculous because I do all my encoding and recording to get stuff on to the groovetech website via my computer and to have to do this everytime to be able to create an audio sample so we can sell the damn thing

you know, this brings up a *really* good question............now, if I'm understanding the new RIAA approach to distributed media, the artist (and artist's producers) actually *owns* the full presentation. which is a complete reversal from their stance in the 80's and 90's, that the *media* was owned [until sold] by the artists/producers.

so, they're take on things, based on the many many articles I've read on this and other commercially distributed art (i.e. TV, movies, books, etc), is that they present you with a final product, and you're not supposed to fuck with that final product.

not in a "don't fuck with that product, or your warranty is void" kind of way, such as normally practiced by the automotive and home electronics industries.

but rather, in a "don't fuck with that, or else" kind of way, such as normally accepted by customers of the telephone and ISP industries.

so my question is, how does it work, when a company like Sony decides to put data retention technologies in place - and create an environment where removing the data retention technology would be a crime - and yet, forgets to ensure that their data retention technology is compatible with alternative media players? (such as the Macintosh...) - I suppose the logical counterpoint is to simply get rid of your Mac, but I mean, this doesn't promote competition! shit, its not even in the same zip code! plus, what Mac user is gonna get rid of their Mac, ever? I don't know of any...

plus, as you say, isn't it ironic, that in order for you to commercially promote the Sony-based media, you must first run an "illegal hack" against Sony's media?

anyway, I just got back from a stroll to buy blank tapes, and I was thinking about this...