View Full Version : Ever seen a GHOST?
trikc
09-24-2002, 08:16 PM
when i was a kid i lived in a haunted house. saw all kinds of weird shit. my mom still doesn't like talking about it, and that was more than 20 years ago.
there are tv shows with mediums claiming to be in contact with spirits on the other side. there are books by psychics saying the same kind of thing. i would love to believe their stories, but the skeptic in me is still not totally convinced (even though i know what i saw)..
do you believe, and if so, why?
lisam
09-24-2002, 08:46 PM
i don't believe in ghosts, but when i was in high school we'd go drive down this street that was supposed to be haunted. it would still freak most everyone out, and even make me a bit scared though i knew there was no ghost that we were going to see. i think it's the atmosphere that causes people to experience a sighting or see/feel/hear/sense the presence of ghosts. until i see one with my own eyes and cannot come up with a logical explanation why it's there or some scientific explanation of what i'm seeing, i'll continue to be a naysayer.
there may be some sort of spirits that we encounter from time to time, such as a guardian angel, so i guess you could say i sort of believe in ghosts, but as far as saying that i think there are real haunted houses and real ghosts that haunt people, i think it's a figment of people's imaginations. just like alien abductions. (yeah the alien thing is random but i've been reading a lot about it lately and could spew a bunch if i didn't stop myself and try to stay on topic). i think it's something humans manifest in their minds, whether it's consciously or subconsciously, either way, it's something that is created in our heads, and we let ourselves believe that it is true. just like how we can successfully lie to ourselves about things and cause ourselves to believe things that can be proved to be untrue. i couldn't say for sure that i think there are guardian angels out there (and demons on the flipside), since i have no real proof but rather a bit of faith that they may exist. it's more of something that i've nonchalantly believed in since i was a kid.
if i ever encounter a ghost, i would hope that it would be in a place where i'm not told that the house is haunted or that a ghost lives there. telling me that creates the same situation as in my anecdote above. we then are expecting to see something, and may let ourselves believe that something absolutely ordinary is supernatural. i strongly doubt that i will ever see anything that makes me believe that ghosts are real, i think i'm more likely to see the holy ghost than the spirit of someone deceased.
i hope i'm not demeaning your experience with my opinion trikc, you know what you saw, and that's that. i've not seen what you've seen, i'm basing my opinion on my education and experiences, but i have my opinion, and this is it. i don't think ghosts are real. i think they are something the human imagination creates based on the circumstances, fear, anticipation, psychological factors, previous beliefs, or other elements that cause our minds to manifest things that don't exist.
edited to say: i just reread this, and i'm lying....i believe in a ghost, but only the holy ghost, not spirits of dead people. so i guess you could say i am a believer. i believe the father, son and holy ghost exist. guess that negates my entire post. oh well. but i'll say this, i have never seen the holy ghost, i believe this only because i have faith that they exist, no physical proof whatsoever. similarly i think people who believe in ghosts have faith that they exist, because most of them have no physical proof of the manifestations they've witnessed.
i am such a hypocrite....goodness. well maybe not, i can believe in what i want to because i have faith, same as people who believe in ghosts without proof do.
moonpuppy
09-24-2002, 09:03 PM
Wow I have seen countless ghosts and spirts, good and evil. And yes I believe in spirts and stuff and that guy John Edwards is really gifted. But even though I've seen things I cant help but be a spectic. But I think everyone should take things as they come and believe what they see.
Kosmicdog
09-24-2002, 09:52 PM
WHOA!!
Your back?!?
SWEEEEEEET!!
Are we still gonna get married or what ;)
KiddyRaver
09-24-2002, 10:07 PM
yes i do i have had a few houses that had ghost in them my last house had two both evil spirts and the house before that had 3 ghost the old lady was a bitch and evil she fucked with drawers and such.... the little girl never came in the house always stayed outside and she was harm less and.... the guy he was just confused he wasnt neither evil or good... he was just there.
Tecknowledgy
09-24-2002, 10:18 PM
Yes, all my life.
First when I was about 2. I had a red pair of cowboy boots that were my prized possession. One night, I was in bed, my door cracked...I could hear the "Unsolved Mysteries" themesong playing. I looked to where my boots were suppose to be, and they weren't there. Then I saw them taking small steps about my room. As policy requires, I immediately freaked the fuck out. I had my dad lock them up in a small lock chest and put them away forever.
Second, when I was about 2, same house. I had had a nightmare, and went to sleep with my mother and father. At the foot of their bed was a full length mirror. Now I had a hand puppet that was furry and had a little squeeker in the tongue. I saw it under the bed, in the mirror. I started to fall asleep, and felt something "bite" my foot. I looked down and saw nothing, but in the mirror could clearly see my handpuppet opening and closing it's furry mouth on my foot. As policy requires, I freaked the fuck out.
Then, we moved to a different house. This one was almost as scary. This is when I started seeing people. I remember an old lady in a night gown and night cap, would look at me through the window in the bathroom. She made a sound. Every time. It was this exact sound. *Ccchk*.
For a while it stopped, then started again when I was a little older. Things then started getting a little weirder.
Once, for about a month, at night I could make out the figure of a VERY large black man. He would stand in my corner and never move, and never make a sound. This was during a time when I unsuccessfully attempted suicide 4 times using fool proof methods such as hanging and whatnot. And there he'd sit, quietly, non threateningly...
...waiting for me to do my deed so he could take me over to the other side.
Later on, I awoke to a quiet sound of something scratching my carpet. I looked, and there was an old lady, with a gown and cap on, crawling around on her hands and knees, tiredly clawing at the carpet.
The most recent, and by far most frightening, is as follows...
Tecknowledgy
09-24-2002, 10:32 PM
It was spring, of 2000. There was a party being held on a friend's property. This property however, was home to one of the most known murder's in the history of Coos County. About a year earlier, a young girl about the age of 16, was killed, and buried by the creek, no more than 20 yards from where we were to be "partying".
We got to the spot, a friend and I...and there were many people gathered. All the friends and whatnot hanging out, reliving old memories, talking about what they should have done differently to win last weeks football game, how much school sucked, how hot whose ass looked and whatnot.
As the night wore on, we got more brazen and decided to go check out the crime scene. The tape was still up, the teens were drunk, and it was a perfect start to a scary movie. Only this wasn't a movie.
We looked at the site, found the shallow grave where a girl had partially decayed before she was found, and basically got really creeped out.
The next night, two friends and I decided to go back out there to "see the sights". We arrived at approximately 11:30 p.m. and sat down at a nearby picnic table. About 11:55 we heard a large splash in the water...a splash a person weighing about 115 pounds would make.
The following night we went out again, same time. This time we didn't hear or see anything, but felt something. Cold...ice fucking cold. We took off out of there like bats out of hell, and it felt like we were running for our lives.
We continued to go out there every night until one of the friends decided she'd had enough.
From where we would sit, you could clearly see the road. One night, about 11:50 we heard a car come from around the corner, slam on it's breaks, stop, engine shut off, door open, three door slams, trunk open, one trunk slam, a rustling in the bushes ALL the way down the hill as if someone was dragging something heavy, and then a large splash in the water, yet again.
My other friend and I only went out there one other time after that, and we will never go back.
Our last excursion to this evil place was on a thursday night. It was 11:30 p.m. when we got there. Immediately it got cold, we're talking a good 20 degree temp drop. Then I started knocking on the wooden table, which is a form of "communication" known as "rapping". A few seconds later, there was a reply. "Knock........knock........knock."
*closer now*
"Knock...........knock............knock."
Behind us the bushes moved, my friend shined the flashlight, pointed the shotgun. Through the bushes, the light shined on a featureless, expressionless face, and a very low, almost inaudible tone sounded.
As policy requires, we freaked out and left, and never came back.
KiddyRaver
09-24-2002, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Tecknowledgy
It was spring, of 2000. There was a party being held on a friend's property. This property however, was home to one of the most known murder's in the history of Coos County. About a year earlier, a young girl about the age of 16, was killed, and buried by the creek, no more than 20 yards from where we were to be "partying".
We got to the spot, a friend and I...and there were many people gathered. All the friends and whatnot hanging out, reliving old memories, talking about what they should have done differently to win last weeks football game, how much school sucked, how hot whose ass looked and whatnot.
As the night wore on, we got more brazen and decided to go check out the crime scene. The tape was still up, the teens were drunk, and it was a perfect start to a scary movie. Only this wasn't a movie.
We looked at the site, found the shallow grave where a girl had partially decayed before she was found, and basically got really creeped out.
The next night, two friends and I decided to go back out there to "see the sights". We arrived at approximately 11:30 p.m. and sat down at a nearby picnic table. About 11:55 we heard a large splash in the water...a splash a person weighing about 115 pounds would make.
The following night we went out again, same time. This time we didn't hear or see anything, but felt something. Cold...ice fucking cold. We took off out of there like bats out of hell, and it felt like we were running for our lives.
We continued to go out there every night until one of the friends decided she'd had enough.
From where we would sit, you could clearly see the road. One night, about 11:50 we heard a car come from around the corner, slam on it's breaks, stop, engine shut off, door open, three door slams, trunk open, one trunk slam, a rustling in the bushes ALL the way down the hill as if someone was dragging something heavy, and then a large splash in the water, yet again.
My other friend and I only went out there one other time after that, and we will never go back.
Our last excursion to this evil place was on a thursday night. It was 11:30 p.m. when we got there. Immediately it got cold, we're talking a good 20 degree temp drop. Then I started knocking on the wooden table, which is a form of "communication" known as "rapping". A few seconds later, there was a reply. "Knock........knock........knock."
*closer now*
"Knock...........knock............knock."
Behind us the bushes moved, my friend shined the flashlight, pointed the shotgun. Through the bushes, the light shined on a featureless, expressionless face, and a very low, almost inaudible tone sounded.
As policy requires, we freaked out and left, and never came back.
why the fuck would you go back....
balloon kitten
09-25-2002, 05:09 AM
Damn tecknowledgy.. you've seen a bunch of that shit.
I would welcome a friendly ghost. FRIENDLY!!!!! I'd let it talk to me, tell me what it wants, and I'd help it. I would help the ghost get what it needs to move on in peace... so long as it helped me get lots and lots of money. :D
Brooklynn
09-25-2002, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by Tecknowledgy
Yes, all my life.
First when I was about 2. I had a red pair of cowboy boots that were my prized possession. One night, I was in bed, my door cracked...I could hear the "Unsolved Mysteries" themesong playing. I looked to where my boots were suppose to be, and they weren't there. Then I saw them taking small steps about my room. As policy requires, I immediately freaked the fuck out. I had my dad lock them up in a small lock chest and put them away forever.
Second, when I was about 2, same house. I had had a nightmare, and went to sleep with my mother and father. At the foot of their bed was a full length mirror. Now I had a hand puppet that was furry and had a little squeeker in the tongue. I saw it under the bed, in the mirror. I started to fall asleep, and felt something "bite" my foot. I looked down and saw nothing, but in the mirror could clearly see my handpuppet opening and closing it's furry mouth on my foot. As policy requires, I freaked the fuck out.
Then, we moved to a different house. This one was almost as scary. This is when I started seeing people. I remember an old lady in a night gown and night cap, would look at me through the window in the bathroom. She made a sound. Every time. It was this exact sound. *Ccchk*.
Things like this are going to keep me up at night for weeks! I hate puppets and little red boots. This is the kind of stuff great B movies are made of.
HexRei
09-25-2002, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Tecknowledgy
Yes, all my life.
First when I was about 2. I had a red pair of cowboy boots that were my prized possession. One night, I was in bed, my door cracked...I could hear the "Unsolved Mysteries" themesong playing. I looked to where my boots were suppose to be, and they weren't there. Then I saw them taking small steps about my room. As policy requires, I immediately freaked the fuck out. I had my dad lock them up in a small lock chest and put them away forever.
Second, when I was about 2, same house. I had had a nightmare, and went to sleep with my mother and father. At the foot of their bed was a full length mirror. Now I had a hand puppet that was furry and had a little squeeker in the tongue. I saw it under the bed, in the mirror. I started to fall asleep, and felt something "bite" my foot. I looked down and saw nothing, but in the mirror could clearly see my handpuppet opening and closing it's furry mouth on my foot. As policy requires, I freaked the fuck out.
Then, we moved to a different house. This one was almost as scary. This is when I started seeing people. I remember an old lady in a night gown and night cap, would look at me through the window in the bathroom. She made a sound. Every time. It was this exact sound. *Ccchk*.
For a while it stopped, then started again when I was a little older. Things then started getting a little weirder.
Once, for about a month, at night I could make out the figure of a VERY large black man. He would stand in my corner and never move, and never make a sound. This was during a time when I unsuccessfully attempted suicide 4 times using fool proof methods such as hanging and whatnot. And there he'd sit, quietly, non threateningly...
...waiting for me to do my deed so he could take me over to the other side.
Later on, I awoke to a quiet sound of something scratching my carpet. I looked, and there was an old lady, with a gown and cap on, crawling around on her hands and knees, tiredly clawing at the carpet.
The most recent, and by far most frightening, is as follows...
bahahaha
"gown and cap" what a creative set of tales :p
HexRei
09-25-2002, 08:45 AM
i once saw a ghost, but it was just a hobo
Tecknowledgy
09-25-2002, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by HexRei
bahahaha
"gown and cap" what a creative set of tales :p
Dude, fuck you, in all seriousness.
Kaaaty
09-25-2002, 09:34 AM
I remember this person/ghost/spirit thing that everyone would see at the ToS. Is that what youre reffering to, Peter?
Anyway it was a hippy-like figure, long hair and stuff, kind of shadowy......totally non-threatening but I would see him in the kitchen at night and once in outside the doorway to james' room. I also *always* felt like I was being watched in the bathroom.
Other people saw him too, and I remember right after I had seen him for the first time that Alder had some sort of dream where he saw the exact same figure, but in the dream he had hung himself in the entry-way from the ceiling, and his cold lifeless body was kind of swinging...
The only thing I would really get creeped out about was taking a shower. I felt so...vulnerable :)
HexRei
09-25-2002, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Tecknowledgy
Dude, fuck you, in all seriousness.
ahem, sorry. i sympathize greatly with your frightening sock puppet assault. i can see how that would be traumatizing
balloon kitten
09-25-2002, 09:58 AM
I can't remember who, but there are people here who admit to "ghosting" here before they joined.
OoooooooOOooOOOOooooOOooooo! :eek:
trikc
09-25-2002, 11:17 AM
there is nary a thread that escapes you...
and as far as the marriage thing goes, you told michael i'm too old for you, so fuck you, my man! xoxo
my ex told me a story that literally made him cry to recount it.
he was a kid, and he and his father had just moved into an apartment.
jason said his room was colder than the other rooms, and he couldn't get comfortable in it--no matter how he arranged his things, it never felt like his room. he was about to fall asleep one night and he tossed his gi joe figure on the floor. about a half minute later, someone/thing threw it back at him with such force that it left marks. jason flipped out and ran screaming and crying into his father's bedroom. he was so affected by the experience that he made his dad investigate the history of the apartment. it turned out that the last tenant who lived there shot himself in the head in, yup, jason's room.
i wouldn't have necessarily believed the story except that it came from jason--he's a skeptical, no-nonsense guy. but i made him tell it to me twice, and both times he cried like a little girl
AthenA
09-25-2002, 11:27 AM
Is it merely coincidence that many of these stories start with something along the lines of "when I was a kid..."?
I don't believe in god, which makes it hard to believe in ghosts. I think John Edwards is a fake and a half, and I think that many people who have "seen" ghosts are people who are not aware of the amazing power of one's own imagination, and the concept of "mind over matter".
I think that many times people see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear.
fIygirl
09-25-2002, 01:18 PM
I saw the ghost of my dead grandmother once while on acid. She started bitching at me and complaining my skirt was too short so I locked her in the closet and took a puff off that good shit.
The Dentist
09-25-2002, 01:22 PM
mmmMMM, unemotional. Thats the good stuff right thar.
trikc
09-25-2002, 01:24 PM
nice, flygirl!
i'm on the fence--right between john edward and AthenA.
which is, i guess...nowhere?
HexRei
09-25-2002, 01:27 PM
im with aThEnA :)
Is it merely coincidence that many of these stories start with something along the lines of "when I was a kid..."?
It's actually because children are much less susceptible to the all the crap that we deal with on a daily basis, such as rules, judgment, and all the other "qualitites" of adulthood. They are actually quite receptive to much more supernatural stuff than we are because they aren't so jaded just yet. They truly believe that when they grow up, they are going to be what they say they are, as well as believing things like magic can happen. So naturally, who would be more likely to be visited by something otherworldly?
I can't tell you how many strange experiences I had as a child that have shaped what I believe today about the world and what occurs in it after you no longer exist. There's way too many.
Call it a silly presumption if you'd like, but that would prove my point even more - that your judgment is based off of years of acquiring "commonsense" knowledge as an adult.
Quite frankly, I miss that part of being a kid.
Hookups
09-26-2002, 02:32 PM
Wow, some scary shit went down. You are all probally right. When you are a kid things are more clear and you remember small details that you cant even imagine remembering now. AND tell me how John Edwards is faking it? BECAUSE if you come up with something valid IM all ears and Ive thought about this forever and I cant think of anything. I love all your stories or experiences but I will for sure have nightmares tonight......
AliciaisAlwaysPimpin
09-26-2002, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by atae
It's actually because children are much less susceptible to the all the crap that we deal with on a daily basis, such as rules, judgment, and all the other "qualitites" of adulthood. They are actually quite receptive to much more supernatural stuff than we are because they aren't so jaded just yet. They truly believe that when they grow up, they are going to be what they say they are, as well as believing things like magic can happen. So naturally, who would be more likely to be visited by something otherworldly?
like SaNta Claus?! Muahaha! he will mistake your children for cookies and leave you sad clown pictures on your walls! you must belive children! you must belive!
:rolleyes:
AthenA
09-27-2002, 07:14 AM
You call it "susceptible", I call it imaginative. When I was a kid, I "saw" adult-sized robots in my room. I knew that Freddy Krueger was on his way to my house, and the only safe place for me to hide was Grandma's. My friend Philicia had an animated witch (right down to the big green warty nose) that lived under her stairs from the ages of 3-6. She actually asked her older sister about it when she was about 8. "Remember that witch that lived under the stairs? What ever happened to her?" Um, yeah. The point I'm trying to make here is that yes, children are "less jaded" or whatever, but the are also far less capable of differentiating between reality and make-believe. It's very simple to convince a child that something that they saw was true. So easy, in fact, that they manage to convince themselves on a regular basis. I dunno....Call me jaded, or cynical, or "unsusceptible", but the fact of the matter is that I can tell what's real and what's not, and I couldn't for the most part when I was young. I find it hard to believe that any of you were any different.:D
"AND tell me how John Edwards is faking it? BECAUSE if you come up with something valid IM all ears and Ive thought about this forever and I cant think of anything."
Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids! It's a damn shame so many adults get taken in by them too. This guy is a business man, and a very talented speaker. When the John Edwards show first came on, I became very interested in it. I knew it was a hoax from the beginning, but much like you, my friend, could not figure out HOW. I began studying the show and his technique very carefully. He uses the same stragidy that your average horoscope or Miss Cloe uses. He uses "information" general enough to appeal to at least one person in the area he focuses on.
Once he's got a taker, that person is so thrilled to have been "chosen" that they will bend over backwards to make a connection. With every "validation" he makes, the audience member gives up more information about his/herself, the "crossed over" loved one, or the situation that connects the two. John merely builds on what he is given.
So why is he more believable than your average horoscope or Miss Cloe??? Look at him for christ's sake! With his cosy little sweaters, and soft, calming voice. He is believable because we want to believe him! Like I said before, sometimes people see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear. The most important aspect of his appeal is that he is a very talented speaker. I have been involved with the H.H.S. debate team since my freshman year. This will be my 7th season, 3rd as an asst. coach. If there's one thing I know, it's that a talented speaker can make someone believe they're wrong, even when they know they're right. I've done it a thousand times, it's been done to me a thousand times. That's what debate is about. Millions of kids are trained every year to have this ability....Is it far fetched to believe that he was trained once too?
You keep watching those show, buddy, but keep in mind what I said. You'll see when he slips up, when he has to try to make (predominantly male) audience members "see the connection".
Or maybe not. Those who watch that show and believe do so because they want to. And if you want to believe, there's not a whole lot I can say to convince you otherwise. But hey, man...Whatever makes you sleep easier at night...
;)
BettieRage
09-27-2002, 08:18 AM
Last year I was working in Yellowstone National Park in the Old Faithful Inn, right next to Old Faithful. I was the assistant manager of a Deli, and was often in the store alone in the early mornings and late at night, closing or opening.
To make a long story short about the deli: All the chairs were put upside-down, on top of the tables before my last employee would leave. They would leave, I would be in the store alone, and I'd hear the sound of a chair scraping against the floor. I'd walk out to the lobby...sure enough, the very back chair was uprite on the floor and pushed about 3 feet against the wall. It happened nearly every night, i figured it was people fucking with me. One night I was sitting in the lobby doing paperwork, and heard a "thunk", looked up, same chair was back on the floor being pushed towards the wall by NOTHING. Yup, good times. I was never in the store alone at night again.
I was wandering around the upstairs of the Inn one night (around 2 AM), and could hear someone walking behind me. Footsteps got closer and closer, and i got colder and colder and more freaked out. The footsteps went PAST me, but there was no one there.
In my dorm room there, there was a big rock i used to keep the door open. Every time I'd go in my room, the rock would be in a different place. I still dunno whether that was just people fucking with me or not.
Also in the dorms, you could sometimes here a tinkling sound (like glasses toasting) and laughter.
I thought I was crazy, and I didn't say anything to anyone about the things that had been happening, until one of my employees asked me if anything weird had ever happened to me in the Deli. That opened up A LOT of people to conversation about things we had experienced.
Room Attendants had stories about doors closing and locking behind them and how some of the rooms were 15 degrees cooler than other rooms for no apperant reason, one of the Residence Coordinators told me that before anyone moved into our dorm, he would be in there alone and hear "party noises", like glasses tinkling and girls laughing. (Yup, what I had heard long before i knew he had heard it as well, and noises that a lot of other people said they heard too.)
Anyhow, there's a lot more weird stuff I could talk about, but this is getting way too long, and you'll just think I'm crazy if I repeat some of the things that happened out there.
EuroTrash
09-27-2002, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by Hookups
AND tell me how John Edwards is faking it? BECAUSE if you come up with something valid IM all ears and Ive thought about this forever and I cant think of anything.
Or how about this theory. He uses the same technics as Televangelists. Before the show even begins and everyone is waiting to be seated he has his minions going out and talk to people. A few simple questions will get most people to spill their guts about what they want to hear. "I'm so excited to see him, I hope he calls on me so I can talk with my long lost son, who do you hope to talk to?" Suddenly what seems like passing conversation turns out to be an interview that will later be used to talk with your dead relatives (or so you think). The rest is general psychic skills that if you ever go work for a 900 psychic line, they will teach you all about them. Its a matter of taking very general information that could apply to anyone and make mental notes of the reaction they have. If they let out a gasp or some sound when you get close to a subject then you know you almost have them. Its pretty easy really, like Athena said, people WANT to believe so badly that they form it into reality in their minds.
As for spirits, I would like to believe but unfortunately can't yet. I've seen some wierd things happen but nothing that would warrant believing it was a ghost. Most people say that because I want to see it so badly I won't. That doesn't really make sense to me cause it if did in fact exsist, I would see it regardless of my personal wants. So this leads me to a new subject (in the same context). Anyone know of haunted houses or areas around Portland? Anyone care to do a little ghost hunting to hunt out a little truth? And I don't want people going with me that will see a ghost and freak out running and screaming down the hall. I want people that will take it from a scientific stand point. I require some data before I'll believe.
*Devon*
09-27-2002, 10:07 AM
I totally believe but just as of recently. My bedroom in my apartment *has* to be haunted. A guy shot himself in here a few years ago and now all kinds of trippy things happen. For instance, my computer will be completely off and then in the middle of the night it turns on with a big flash of light. One day a couple of my friends were discussing a oujii (or however the hell you spell it) board and were wondering what they would ask it if they had one. Something to the effect of "Is there a spirit in the house?" when all of a sudden like two candles fall over 2 feet from where we're sitting. I think he's most likely a harmless spirit but just trying to let his presence be known.
Mad Vinnie
09-27-2002, 10:47 AM
I'll believe when I see something first hand. Its kinda fun to scare yourself, though :).
I've been in many situations where at the time I thought something supernatural was happening, but they always end up with rational explanations.
I like the stories, keep them coming :)
-MV
Jon Gotti
09-27-2002, 11:05 AM
sorry Nope cant say that I have...........
Kosmicdog
09-27-2002, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by EuroTrash
Or how about this theory. He uses the same technics as Televangelists.
DJ's use TECHNICS. Televangelists use TECHNIQUES.
Silly raver ;)
Also, anyone notice how once a group of people start telling ghost stories that the the stories get better and better and more detailed as the conversation progresses?
EuroTrash
09-27-2002, 02:54 PM
LOL Wooooooops
Didn't ya know, they're Djing for the lord!
Fire_Princess
09-28-2002, 05:42 PM
Hell I've seen a ghost. I was probably 11 at the time but I know what I saw. But anyways thats not what I wanted to talk about. I was watching my uncle's house for 2 weeks not long ago and he lives in my new grandpa's old house, (and this is where it gets complicated) where his (my new grandpa) last wife was shot in the head by their grandson who used to be my best friend until I was about 10 or so. But The first night I was there they stuck me in the room she was shot in. Nothing special happened in any one instance but I would fall asleep at night with the TV and lights on and all uncovered. And I would wake up in the morning with the TV and lights all off and have a blanket thrown over me. Hell the blanket I could have pulled on in my sleep but I sure as hell dont sleep walk so how do explain the lights and TV?? And for some reason the puppy I was taking care of just LOVED to go in the "murder room" as I called it. But other than feeling like I wasn't alone at times nothing special happened.
-J
Transmission
09-28-2002, 06:20 PM
yah...
I bought my house and was handed over the keys and garage door opener. The lady told me her boyfriend once saw a ghost in the bedroom. She told me that it was her grandfather and he was watchin' to make sure she was ok.
Well, that evening I was joking with my girlfriend about it and went to open the door to the bathroom. The handle shook for about five seconds and the door closed on my face. fawwwwwwk!!!
The girrly-friend asked what happened and I said "you So don't want to know !"
I must have disturbed the ghost pinchin' a loaf or something. : 0
many other things have happend but over all he's kool.
end of transmission
Brooklynn
09-30-2002, 01:14 PM
AthenA did make me think about just how powerful imagination can be as a kid.
Did anyone else have imaginary friends who were "real" to you? I was very involved with some "friends" both good and bad. I was dating this real respectable imaginary friend callled Yellow Peabody and the other friend Tender was just a violent fuck. I remember feeling really involved in these relationships like they were actually there.
I bet no one will talk to me now.
But really the Blackstone building at PSU is haunted.
Mad Vinnie
09-30-2002, 02:46 PM
Okie dokes, here goes. I may have made this memoryup, but to this day I remember this event.
When I was 4 my family lived in an apartment building (which I have recently heard was haunted.) My parents recall weird stuff happening in the place. Stuff would fall off shelves and doors would shut while no one was looking.
One of my clearest memories of the place was taking a bath. My parents left me in the bathroom alone for a moment and left the door open. The door opened up into and looked down the hall, facing a window in our living room. So I could see down the hall and out the window. But this was in the evening, so I saw my reflection. There was a basket that hung from the ceiling that held a bunch of my bath tub toys: a rubber ducky, plastic tug boat and a green, wind up frog that swam. I looked down the hall and at my reflection and in the reflection in the window the frog popped out from behind the door and stared at me. I looked up at the basket and the frog remained where it lay, but in the window it continued to stare. I freaked out and to this day it gives me the heebie jeebies.
**** note, I fully realize that I was 4 and this may have never happened, but my memory says it happened.
Recently I've heard this story about the young couple who lived below us at the time. At the time their son was a baby. One night they heard the baby crying and it was daddy's turn to get up and put him back to sleep. He got up, walked into the baby's room, flipped on the light and found his son sound asleep. He looked up into the reflection in the window to see a man holding a crying baby. Of course he grabbed his son and got the fiznuck out of there. So there's my ghost stories. Believe them if you will.
-MV
Man, hell yeah.
I first saw Ghost on Enter the Wu (36 Chambers) and then he was featured on Only Built for Cuban Links..., but the point at which I was absolutely sure I saw Ghost was when he came out with Ironman.
Damn that guy has a dope delivery - it's downright frightful, in fact.
EV
lisam
09-30-2002, 03:47 PM
Anyone know of haunted houses or areas around Portland? Anyone care to do a little ghost hunting to hunt out a little truth? And I don't want people going with me that will see a ghost and freak out running and screaming down the hall. I want people that will take it from a scientific stand point. I require some data before I'll believe.
i don't know of places but i think i'd be an excellent candidate to tag along for an investigation of this sort. it would likely be a bit nerve racking and even a tad scary, but i think that it would be interesting, and maybe shed some light as to whether i think there are really spirits among us or not.
the only times i've gone out in similar fashion were with a bunch of stupid ass girls who would start screaming and running around if someone even stepped on a leaf or made some mundane little noise. it would be fun to go out with a group of level-headed individuals to check out a place that is said to be haunted. i think for such an experiment to work, it would be good to go into a place that is "known" to be haunted, and then also check out places that are not supposed to be haunted to compare the experiences. or better yet, have a believer along who would take the group somewhere that they think is haunted but treat it as if it's just another place, and see if us skeptics get a different feel from being there not having been told beforehand that it's haunted.
i'm not in portland but i love exploring the city. this partly falls under the category of urban exploration which i'm very interested in, there are so many neat buildings out there to check out, and it seems like it's more fun to go places without an invitation!
HexRei
09-30-2002, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by lisam
i don't know of places but i think i'd be an excellent candidate to tag along for an investigation of this sort. it would likely be a bit nerve racking and even a tad scary, but i think that it would be interesting, and maybe shed some light as to whether i think there are really spirits among us or not.
the only times i've gone out in similar fashion were with a bunch of stupid ass girls who would start screaming and running around if someone even stepped on a leaf or made some mundane little noise. it would be fun to go out with a group of level-headed individuals to check out a place that is said to be haunted. i think for such an experiment to work, it would be good to go into a place that is "known" to be haunted, and then also check out places that are not supposed to be haunted to compare the experiences. or better yet, have a believer along who would take the group somewhere that they think is haunted but treat it as if it's just another place, and see if us skeptics get a different feel from being there not having been told beforehand that it's haunted.
i'm not in portland but i love exploring the city. this partly falls under the category of urban exploration which i'm very interested in, there are so many neat buildings out there to check out, and it seems like it's more fun to go places without an invitation!
this would be dope. but i dont know any haunted houses. :(
Fire_Princess
09-30-2002, 06:10 PM
Okay did a little research and so far this is what I've found...
Portland - Cathedral Park - In the summer of 1949, 15 year-old Thelma Taylor was murdered under the St. Johns Bridge, also known as Cathedral Park. In the present day, disembodied screams can be heard late at night during the summer, and the police have been dispatched numerous times to the area without finding any evidence of foul play.
Portland - Burger King downtown - Haunted by an unknown entity.
Portland - Buttertoes Restaurant - this ghost, "Lydia", has been seen by numerous people.
Portland - KWJJ Radio Station - this building is haunted by many different ghosts.
Portland - KUPL Station - There has been sightings of a man's face in the window. Also CD's that have been set out mysteriously disappear after the DJ turns away.
Portland - Oaks Park - This amusement park built in 1890 has been plagued with a ghostly apparition of a lone child in 70's style clothing for over 20 years.
Portland - Old OMSI building - This science museum was shut down in the early 90's and moved to a new location, but people visiting the surrounding parks and zoo hear odd noises and see strange lights coming from the abandoned empty building.
Portland - Scapponia Park - North of Portland - There is said to be the ghost of a man and his dog. In the late 1800's there was a horse thief who lives in an old cabin in the area of Scapponia Park. One night an angry mob took the man and hung him and shot his dog. It is said that they are buried together under a large oak tree in the camp ground.
Portland - White Eagle Tavern - A stairway is haunted in the kitchen area off the office area. The manager has gotten trapped there by various cleaning equipment.
Portland - Wilamette River - For the past two years a phantom rowboat has been sighted along this river. It has no one on the boat but when the coastguard goes to retrieve the boat it disappears right in front of there eyes.
Salem - Mission Mill - Once a thriving woolen mill, it is now a museum and home to businesses such as the Salem Art Center. Also on the grounds you can find the original home of Jason Lee, the founder of Salem, and several other historical buildings that were transplanted to the grounds. Employees have had experiences of a young woman running across the bridge (from her spouse; she was rumored to have been murdered on the bridge), meetings with Wayne the groundskeeper (who, after death, is still caring and watching over the grounds), and can sense extreme anger and pain from the turbine room, where a male employee lost his life while maintaining a turbine - while it was still on. Some people can also feel the vibrations of the old machinery running and weaving wool on the top floor of the museum; a room void of machinery and often rented for parties and receptions.
Okay so I know the last one is in Salem but I tell you I have been to the mill before and the place is funking creepy. Anyways that should give you ghost hunters a place to start. I will look for something more substantial though. Oh and if any one knows of the McLaughlin House that is haunted too
-J
Fire_Princess
09-30-2002, 06:23 PM
If you want to read ALOT of creepy ghost stories go here:
www.theshadowlands.net
Kosmicdog
09-30-2002, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Fire_Princess
Okay did a little research and so far this is what I've found...
Portland - Burger King downtown - Haunted by an unknown entity.
No no no, that's midnight monica, high on crack giving blowjobs
Portland - Buttertoes Restaurant - this ghost, "Lydia", has been seen by numerous people.
Wrong on the second count. Lydia is an evil entity that likes girls and used to dose everyone on fake acid
Portland - KUPL Station - There has been sightings of a man's face in the window. Also CD's that have been set out mysteriously disappear after the DJ turns away.
Wrong again, thats EnkiduChris. And I steal the CD's whenever I visit the station
Portland - Oaks Park - This amusement park built in 1890 has been plagued with a ghostly apparition of a lone child in 70's style clothing for over 20 years.
That's kandekid Jesse. Last time I saw that freakishly clothed apparition at Oaks Parks was july 4th, 2001 at the kinetic family picnic. He made an appearance and tried to drag away a scantily clad 13 year old girl
*naughty kitty*
10-01-2002, 05:27 PM
In Eugene there's a pioneer graveyard on top of Willagalespie hill. It's where all the first people to build the town are buried. You can look at the names on the graves and see that some of the streets are named after them i.e. Cal Young, Gilham, etc. But I digress, there's this creepy gravel road that leads up to it and it's lined with these huge trees. This one time my friend and I went up there cause he was doing some photography project or something. We kept seeing all these weird shadows moving at the end of the road, they dissappeared when we got close. Then we tried to light some candles but they kept going out despite the fact that there was no wind. All of the sudden it got really fuckin cold and wind started blowing, but it wasn't blowing the tops of the trees, or even the leaves on the ground. So we booked it, and never went back. Yeah that was fuckin scary... shudders
What time?
10-01-2002, 05:43 PM
Apparently, the owners of this house had been seeing images and hearing voices for quite a while. They did some research and found that a lady that once lived in the house lost her husband during the civil war.
Legend says that she used to sit at the table and look across the fields in anticipation of her loved one returning home.
He never came. So, they say she still waits. They caught this photo using digital imaging and sound) of what they claim to be her.
This one is wild and a little spooky once you find the ghost in the picture. It took me about 30 seconds to find it, but when you do, it just stands out. Like one of those optical illusions. Be patient and look closely.
To save you some time, concentrate around the table and sort of towards the window. Also, if you have volume, turn it up as you can hear some faint murmurings which they say is the ghost talking.
Go to this address to see and hear it for yourself:: http://home.attbi.com/~n9ivo/whatswrong.swf
Yungrii Mobliatri
10-01-2002, 06:12 PM
my colon hurts.
sass.bot
10-01-2002, 06:41 PM
Stuff like this creeps me out. I'm the biggest scaredy cat around, for real
:(
As for haunted places, the auditorium of the St Helens High School is supposed to be haunted. The story's been retold in a couple of published books, actually. How the story supposedly goes is that the ghost originally came from a Forest Grove school. When the Forest Grove band uniforms were transported to St Helens, it took the ghost of a girl with it-one that was into drama and whatnot. I can't remember the rest of it acurately, so i'll shut up, but I do know that at the end of every stage performance at SHHS, they thank her like she's part of the crew. I want to say her name is Lydia.......? I'll a find a link, dammit:)
-Amanda
Star_Dancer
10-01-2002, 07:32 PM
I'd be down for checking out some haunted house action. We should get a couple Portland kids together and go spend a night there. See who gets freaked out the most.
akoni
10-02-2002, 11:25 AM
simple physics explains paranormal activity but it cant really be explained because theres no mathmatical formula to prove it.
Im a firm beliver in the 'theres alot more going on then peice of crap machine designed at radio shack can detect' theory
~Bliss~
10-02-2002, 12:11 PM
When I lived in Louisiana I had this cat Prince. When I'd go out to feed my horse Prince would always follow me, sometimes running in front of me and weaving inbetween my legs. When I'd get to the gate, he'd always run inbetween the crack of the fencing and wait for me on the other side, until I'd get into the gate.
The one day he disappeared. He was gone for like 3 weeks. It was horrible and upsetting. Then one day I was walking back from feeding my horse at night and all of the sudden I got very very warm. Comfortably warm though. Then this little ball of light ran past me, waited for me and ran through my legs, then kept pace with me and walked with me for a while, then ran ahead and disappeared.
I knew that it was Prince and it still brings tears to my eyes to this day. I know he was telling me he was gone, but he was okay.
So thats my only ghost story. I told it to some people and they said it was an illusion. I don't care what anyone says though, the actions the light did were identical to the routine Prince would follow every night, and the warmth was like someone had wrapped me in a blanket and was holding me.
Crazy
K
Carley
10-02-2002, 12:20 PM
Did anyone else have imaginary friends who were "real" to you?
Oh! I did! Carlup and Mar'Tee! :) We used to excavate dinsoaur bones (ok, not really... but we did find some really kick ass trilobites) from my backyard together. Ah, good times :)
Once my friend Christina tried to convince me they were really ghosts, so I asked. Mar'Tee said 'No, there's no such thing.'
So there ya go. Evidence ghosts don't exist, from a primary source even ;) Sorry kids.
~c
<edit: TRILOBITE!>
http://goniagnostus.homestead.com/files/Olenoides.jpg
balloon kitten
10-02-2002, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by What time?
They caught this photo using digital imaging and sound) of what they claim to be her.
To save you some time, concentrate around the table and sort of towards the window. Also, if you have volume, turn it up as you can hear some faint murmurings which they say is the ghost talking.
Go to this address to see and hear it for yourself:: http://home.attbi.com/~n9ivo/whatswrong.swf
Tip #1: You can't record sound and a still picture with a digital camera. :rolleyes:
Tip #2: Don't post the same tired link that's been around forever.
Tip #3: If you are going to post the same tired link that's been around forever, try to mask it so we can't see the "whatswrong.swf" in the link, it kind of gives it away.
Nice try, though! :D
Star_Dancer
10-02-2002, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by balloon kitten
Tip #1: You can't record sound and a still picture with a digital camera. :rolleyes:
Nice try, though! :D
I'm not sure that's entirelly acurate. I have a friend with a digital camera that takes 5 second .wav files and attaches them to the picture as a .exe. It requires their software, but for all intents and purposes it captures both a still picture and sound at the same time.
What time?
10-02-2002, 02:15 PM
Tip #1: You can't record sound and a still picture with a digital camera.
Tip #2: Don't post the same tired link that's been around forever.
Tip #3: If you are going to post the same tired link that's been around forever, try to mask it so we can't see the "whatswrong.swf" in the link, it kind of gives it away.
And I thought I was being clever. Damn!
What time?
10-02-2002, 02:22 PM
See, I can't even quote people properly. This is pathetic.
lisam
10-02-2002, 02:51 PM
This one time my friend and I went up there cause he was doing some photography project or something. We kept seeing all these weird shadows moving at the end of the road, they dissappeared when we got close. Then we tried to light some candles but they kept going out despite the fact that there was no wind. All of the sudden it got really fuckin cold and wind started blowing, but it wasn't blowing the tops of the trees, or even the leaves on the ground. So we booked it, and never went back. Yeah that was fuckin scary... shudders
it's stories like this that make me laugh and think that there aren't spirits of dead people wandering around. basically my take on this anecdote is that you freaked yourselves out. once you let the shadows get you scared, your imagination started running away with you. it was all in your heads.
i know i wasn't there, and don't even know you, but that's my opinion when i hear stories like yours (and there are a LOT). it's psychological, once you begin to think that something supernatural may be happening you forget to be rational and not let your imagination get the best of you. it's all in your heads, even if you think you did see something, the something you saw was likely a natural phenomenon misconstrued as ghosts or spirits. if every time i saw a flash of light i couldn't explain, i'd be running around forever saying that i always see my guardian angel.
Mad Vinnie
10-02-2002, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by lisam
it's stories like this that make me laugh and think that there aren't spirits of dead people wandering around. basically my take on this anecdote is that you freaked yourselves out. once you let the shadows get you scared, your imagination started running away with you. it was all in your heads.
i know i wasn't there, and don't even know you, but that's my opinion when i hear stories like yours (and there are a LOT). it's psychological, once you begin to think that something supernatural may be happening you forget to be rational and not let your imagination get the best of you. it's all in your heads, even if you think you did see something, the something you saw was likely a natural phenomenon misconstrued as ghosts or spirits. if every time i saw a flash of light i couldn't explain, i'd be running around forever saying that i always see my guardian angel.
I agree.... but you gotta admit its fun as hell to scare the crap out of yourself from time to time :D
-MV
lisam
10-03-2002, 11:22 AM
I agree.... but you gotta admit its fun as hell to scare the crap out of yourself from time to time
i'll give you that.
i found myself in a situation last night where i could've tried to freak myself out (and i did a little bit, tried to freak myself out, but didn't get scared or any sort of adrenaline rush, which is disappointing, i wanted that free high). my stereo has a motion sensor that makes three green lights blink when it's set off (to facilitate turning it on in the dark). well last night before going to bed i notice that continually these lights are blinking. they'd stop blinking then start up a second later. i thought "oooh, maybe there's a ghost in my room", so i sat and stared in the dark, and eventually i could make out two glowing green eyes on the ceiling. i still wasn't scared so i stared more. i think the glowing things were faded glow in the dark stars stuck up there, or else just spots my eyes were seeing. still nothing that seemed ghostly.
the blinking is starting to bother me, i don't like lights when i'm trying to sleep, especially ones that flash (just a piece of history, when i first had the computer and cable modem in my room, i would arrange my chair so that it blocked all the lights from the router and modem, if i could see them from my bed i would have trouble getting to sleep). so i pull the blankets up so far over me that if i open my eyes i can't see the flashing green lights. after about 15 minutes of sitting up to see if it's still happening, then lying back down, i give up and instead stare at the reflection of the lights on the ceiling, hoping maybe i'll scare myself enough that i'll hide under the covers and fall asleep. no dice.
i did find it neat how i could make shapes and moving things out of the shadows, with the only lights in the room being the flashing of my stereo and the modem/router (i've finally been able to go to sleep without having to position my desk chair before bed).
so there's my attempt at seeing a ghost or trying to see if there were any ghosts in my room, lame, but i was thinking about this thread so i decided to sit around and see if i could manifest some spirits in my head or else see something out of the ordinary. and please don't start on me about the blinking lights, i know it's an anal thing, but sometimes the little things bother me. sort of like monica and her shoes for those of you that have watched friends. today i noticed that the blinking finally stopped, so maybe there is something in my room, and once i fell asleep it ceased. who knows, i'm interested to see if it does it again tonight, or if i need to start fighting the "silly lisa stop being so anal retentive battle" all over again. it was really chilly in my room too, my fingers felt real cold when i got in bed, but alas, the furnace was off.
i still want to explore pdx's buildings to find out if ghosts really do exist and inhabit some of the cool places there, or at least try to see something neat.
bleh...rambling. guess i'll get back to work.
ta.
*naughty kitty*
10-03-2002, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by lisam
it's stories like this that make me laugh and think that there aren't spirits of dead people wandering around. basically my take on this anecdote is that you freaked yourselves out. once you let the shadows get you scared, your imagination started running away with you. it was all in your heads.
I'll chalk some of this up to the fact that we WERE in a cemetary, and or imaginations probably did get carried away. But I can honestly say that we didn't go up there expecting to find anything out of the ordinary, and I'm not the type of person who get's freaked out to easily. So there was something there that made me feel uneasy. As for the blinking lights in your room, I've heard that ghosts can mess with electronic stuff. But I doubt it was one cause it didn't sound like you were too freaked out. Or maybe you're just really really brave. :)
lisam
10-03-2002, 11:51 PM
As for the blinking lights in your room, I've heard that ghosts can mess with electronic stuff. But I doubt it was one cause it didn't sound like you were too freaked out. Or maybe you're just really really brave.
why do i have to be scared or freaked out to experience something supernatural? i'd much rather be objective if that ever happens, rather than so pumped full of adrenaline that i can't even think straight.
i highly doubt there's a ghost in my house, i think the stereo stuff was just a supersensitive motion sensor, plus there were things sitting nearby it that could've made reflections with what low light there was in the room. or it's a ghost, whatever. i'm more concerned with doing away with the anal retentiveness that keeps me from benig able to sleep without noticing the blinking so much.
i can understand how you would be scared in a cemetary. it's the atmosphere, i'll even admit i thought i would get the creeps and get really scared one night as i walked through a dark cemetary. the only thing that truly scared me (startled really, it was the noise and not what i saw), was a huge owl that started flying from a tree behind us to somewhere off to the side of us, but once we saw what it was we stood quietly and watched the beautiful big bird fly past us and off into the trees. up until then i'd not been the least scared or paranoid (psychedelics were involved so it's surprising we didn't concoct visions of being followed or accompanied by supernatural beings, or even see things that weren't really there, knowing that they would just be hallucinations). i was so curious about all the graves too, it was really fun to look at all of them, especially the ones over a hundred years old. the person with me kept telling me all the folklore about some of the bigger ones, such as "lie down on this bench and you'll die within a year" (i didn't, but i stood on it. which brings me to a tangent, he told a few anecdotes of people who had died after lying on it. but maybe these people were all the thrill seeking sort of people anyway, and it's just a huge coincidence that they died, or maybe out of all the people that tempted that fate and tried it, we only hear the stories of the few unfortunate who did happen to die within the next year. i think statistics on mortality could be used to show that in a group of people, a certain number will not survive the coming year, and given that this was a local legend, there were many who told the story i'm sure. /end random tangent), "the person in this grave comes out to see who's walking around the graveyard from time to time", "this part here is a family that was murdered and still haunts the area", and so on. he even suggested that i stand over where the bodies were buried to see if i got a different feeling from that. the only feeling i got was that i thought it what i was doing was a bit disrespectful, but i didn't stop trying to feel different temperatures in those places. to no avail, it all seemed the same. i can't say whether i'd be in the same frame of mind sober, but it just proved to me that if you don't want to get freaked out you won't, unless it's something like the owl, which just startled us because of how loud and close to us it was, it must've been blind or something to not notice us walking thru the grass, we were probably within a hundred feet of it just on the ground.
in the end, exploring is fun, it's been a few years since i wandered around in a cemetary, and have yet to do it sober (which i think would be the best way to try and see anything supernatural, knowing that there's nothing influencing my head to manifest an image from my imagination). one of you pdx residents should get the ball rolling and do this man!! otherwise, you slackers will just have to wait until i live there and i'll organize a lil urban exploration with the purpose of seeking something out of the ordinary. i still need trip buddies too ;)
oh yeah....i'm not really that brave, i'm a huge chicken. just the other night i heard some unidentifiable noise in my room, and quickly shut off the tv so there wouldn't be any light and hid under the blankets. i was so sure that someone was going to break into my room or that they were already in the house. but thanks....i know better, i'm pretty jumpy sometimes.
taj*luvz*gloss
10-05-2002, 04:04 PM
yes. when i was younger..maybe 9 or 10 , i was always terrified of the dark..or my bedroom. completely horrified. a feeling i cannot even explain...or ever want my son to feel about his own house or bedroom. i gew up in the house...and was always scared. when i was younger i would be in ym bed...just anticipating something to happen, and nothing did. until one night i was completely terrified as usual, and i was about to drift off when i felt my covers being pulled back very slowly. i was in complete shock...a panic i have never felt to this day...i quickly snapped out of my shcok and started screaming at the top of my lungs...louder then i think i ever have. my mom came running up, and took me to her bedroom. another time about 2 months after that...i finally started sleeping in my own room again..when the same thing happend. it might not be the scariest story. but i could never explain it, and thats what terrified me the most. a horrible feeling. i am terrified by the supernatural so much, that i think if i ever have an encounter again, i will be traumatized.
my mom also had a ghost that was in her house when she was about 15 or 16...but she was never scared. she was completely calm, and felt almost a sense of comfort when ever she saw hers. i think it has to do with your aura...your vibes...the kind of person you are or will be. skeptics usually never have encounters...people otherwise do. it also could be hereditary...hence my mother having a ghost too. hers was diffrent though. mine terrified me.
why is it so important for people to push their cosmology on others? Whether you believe in ghosts or not the only one you have to justify the beliefs to is yourself. I am firm in my beliefs and let others do as they will- b/c I know they're gonna no matter how much I bla bla bla anyhow. Saves me time overall except for skimmin over the eyeclutter.
I really enjoyed reading about ghost stories, whether they were true or illusory. Thanx everyone, I'll post a ghost storie sometime soon.
djCritter
10-05-2002, 11:56 PM
I saw a little gnome with a welding torch up to somethin' in the wheel-well of a friend's truck (maybe this has something to do with the hallucinogenic drugs i was on at the time).
Iokera
10-06-2002, 03:58 PM
ok anyone who doesn't believe this shit can ask my girlfriend about it. We were at my house alone one day, like a year ago, and we were both sick. Let me emphasize how huge this house was. My room was on one side of the upstairs, and the kitchen was the furthest distance from it. It took a good minute to get there from my room. The house was a 2 story 4500 square foot home. Huge. So I went downstairs to eat something . I stayed in the kitchen, and she stayed on my bed and tried to nap. About 5 minutes later she comes into the kitchen and says, "What were you doing in the computer room? (the room next to mine). I said, "Sarah, I've been down here eating. Look my bowl is almost empty." She proceded to tell me that she heard walking in the next room, and clicking of the mice and keyboards. She said she could distinctly hear footsteps going from one end of the room to the other. At this time, we were a little freaked out.
On many occations in my bedroom, in one corner by the bathroom there was the sound of heavy yet slow breathing. It was very loud and very clear. I had thoroughly investgated this sound by trying to track it down. thought it could've been a draft, or maybe something from the air conditioning. After looking and lookng and looking for a source of the sound, i had found that it came from a spot in the corner, about 5 feet high, about 8 inches from the wall. If i got close to the wall, the sound was behind me.
Another experience, well set of experiences... The attic was an unfinished floor, and is still unfinished. Now, over my room was just trusses and insulation. No floorboards. I, on repeated occations heard distinct footsteps, very sparse, very apparent, right above my room. A few of the times i heard these steps, the light would rattle and you could see it shaking.
Long ago, with another girlfriend, also named sarah, we encountered something outside. We were making out on my trampoline, and we started to hear very very loud breathing, almost as if it had come from a bobcat or something. It was coming from behind the woodshed. We got shaking thinking we might get attacked by a bobcat or whatever and became very still and very quiet. Silent. The breathing had stopped about 30 seconds later and we saw a figure, about 7 ft. tall, looking like a man about 400lbs. walking around the corner from the front of the house. He had been walking like frankenstein for lack of better description. This figure was walking directly toward us. I said, "Haha dad. Very funny." He then stuck his head out of the window, upstairs, and said, "What?" That's about when we sprinted into the house and stayed there for the rest of the night.
At our old house in eugene, there was one encounter. It was an orb. And a very bright one at that. This happened when i was very young. Maybe 7 years old. It just went down the hall, my brother saw it too. It lit up the trim on the walls as it passed. It was a very odd experience as it caused us to wake from our sleep. This took place at about 3:00 am and we were both supposed to be asleep. That night when i went back to bed i had a nightmare. My mom was calling out my name, and I was answering. I had curled up in my bed, and clenched my blanket. I started to cry, and the orb was at my door. Then the orb disappeared and my mom peered her head around the door. Her eyes were red, she had horns, and her hair was on fire. She was a demon. I woke up and saw the orb at my door. Then it disappeared about 5 seconds after i awoke.
Now, I don't know how to explain these things, but I do know that all of them happened.
Iokera
10-06-2002, 04:04 PM
another encounter i had at my house in eugene wasn't ghosts, but ET. I had been asleep, dreaming about jumping on our brand new trampoline. I was a hyperactive child, so in the dream, my mother brought my ridalin out to me. I took it and turned around. There were about 10 little grey dudes jumping on the tramp, and i looked in the sky to find a UFO being, oh... i guess the word would be drawn or etched into my dream. It took form, and flew directly toward me. I looked at the aliens and they turned to flames and disappeared. I awoke and looked outside in the sky and saw a dot zigzagging about in the distace. Stopping starting, up down left right. Then it just vanished.
Not a ghost, but I think it falls under supernatural since I dreamt of it then saw it in the sky.
geminiboi
10-07-2002, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by trikc
Ever seen a GHOST?
twice
Star_Dancer
10-07-2002, 05:16 AM
I want to go ghost hunting
lisam
10-07-2002, 03:51 PM
I want to go ghost hunting
me too dude. plan it and maybe other people besides you will go. if not it might be an interesting experience to do solo. you live in pdx so i couldn't promise attendance, but would definitely keep it in mind and make what effort i can to be there. then again, if it's far enough down the line i may just be living there already.
set a date and write down addresses of places you'd like to explore, or do research to find some...then post and see if you get any followers. like i said, i'd follow if the time was right.
HexRei
10-07-2002, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by Star_Dancer
I want to go ghost hunting
WHO YA GONNA CALL?
lisam
10-07-2002, 07:24 PM
he should call all you pdx slackerstoners and get your asses in gear to plan the ghost hunt/urban exploration for ghosts already.
then i will have more reason to visit the area besides my own selfish desires.
Star_Dancer
10-07-2002, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by lisam
he should call all you pdx slackerstoners and get your asses in gear to plan the ghost hunt/urban exploration for ghosts already.
then i will have more reason to visit the area besides my own selfish desires.
Yes Yes!
Calling all PDX SlacerStoners. let's go have a ghost hunt. Anyone know of any real haunted places in Portland?
Want to go get schwilly and check them out?
texas chainsaw mascara
10-08-2002, 12:11 AM
My old house was way haunted.
The ghosts would do wierd shit, like turn the heat all the way up, and power the hot tub on in the middle of the night, and run toy cars across the room at random intervals.
Oh yeah, and the usual freaking the animals out and opening and closing doors, and popping videos in and out of the VCR.
I miss those ghosts. They were rad.
-K
Tecknowledgy
10-08-2002, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by STS
why is it so important for people to push their cosmology on others? Whether you believe in ghosts or not the only one you have to justify the beliefs to is yourself. I am firm in my beliefs and let others do as they will- b/c I know they're gonna no matter how much I bla bla bla anyhow. Saves me time overall except for skimmin over the eyeclutter.
I really enjoyed reading about ghost stories, whether they were true or illusory. Thanx everyone, I'll post a ghost storie sometime soon.
you're doing just the same, as would "believers" say about "non believers".
In the end it doesn't matter...
Iokera
10-08-2002, 08:18 AM
I had a friend who's house was haunted by a 'violent' ghost. Since they had moved into the house, 2 of the kids dies somehow. May not be related, but there's other things that are...
At dinner one night, they were all at the table as a family, and a glass cup slit perfectly straight down from the top. Noby was touching it. There were other things that happened, i can't think of them right now. My girlfriend knows the rest of the things that happened there. I wish she would hurry up and post on this thread...
The house has an interesting history of murder though, including a man who killed his wife and chopped her into pieces and scattered them through the field out back. Pretty fucked up...
peace
HexRei
10-08-2002, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Iokera
I had a friend who's house was haunted by a 'violent' ghost. Since they had moved into the house, 2 of the kids dies somehow. May not be related, but there's other things that are...
At dinner one night, they were all at the table as a family, and a glass cup slit perfectly straight down from the top. Noby was touching it. There were other things that happened, i can't think of them right now. My girlfriend knows the rest of the things that happened there. I wish she would hurry up and post on this thread...
The house has an interesting history of murder though, including a man who killed his wife and chopped her into pieces and scattered them through the field out back. Pretty fucked up...
peace
omgz!!! one time i went to do some laundry and i put the clothes in and then went to go pee and when I came back TEH LAUNDRY DETERGENT WAS ALREADY IN TEH WASHER!!!!
OMGZ~~~~~ how did taht happen?!?!?!?!?!?
laundry ghost!!!!1
HexRei
10-08-2002, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by HexRei
omgz!!! one time i went to do some laundry and i put the clothes in and then went to go pee and when I came back TEH LAUNDRY DETERGENT WAS ALREADY IN TEH WASHER!!!!
OMGZ~~~~~ how did taht happen?!?!?!?!?!?
laundry ghost!!!!1
i also found out that a hundred years ago a launderer used to live here, a launderer that LOVED TO DO TEH LAUNDRY!!! so his ghost does people's laundry for them.... haunted laundry!!!!
Star_Dancer
10-10-2002, 09:24 AM
http://home.attbi.com/~hmb01/ghosts/ghosts.htm
Kae.. found the haunted places in North Portland. I am trying to get some of the guys at work to go at the end of the month, but that probrably isn't gonna happen.
So how about a little raver expedition? We can get all schwillied up and go see these places.
trikc
11-07-2002, 08:10 PM
juss thought i'd remind you that this is here
xoxo,
b
Tasty
11-08-2002, 10:35 AM
It's for the Pacific Northwest... Cool shit.
http://www.ghostsandcritters.com/main.html
texas chainsaw mascara
11-08-2002, 07:08 PM
http://hometown.aol.com/shadoland2/ghost.html
lisam
11-08-2002, 11:56 PM
http://home.attbi.com/~hmb01/ghosts/ghosts.htm
Kae.. found the haunted places in North Portland. I am trying to get some of the guys at work to go at the end of the month, but that probrably isn't gonna happen.
maybe the end of november or december and i'd definitely be down! a bottle of wine and some spirits would make the trip even more fun. har har spirits ;)
i need a trip too
*laughs at self*
k to the c
11-09-2002, 10:14 PM
yep this one time i was in downtown seattle coming from a club and i was walking through this alley and all the sudden this ghostly white figure came from behind a dumpster and started this horrible wail.... it turns out it was just my twacked out, meth-addicted friend "leroy", he just got done smoking some shards and was wailing out for more
i do believe in ghosts though
peace
k
SunshineGirlie
11-10-2002, 12:44 PM
i want to go ghost hunting too!!!
:D
love des
partykids2003
11-12-2002, 03:46 AM
I have had some wierd shit happen to me before...but this is the scariest. One of my friends lived in this really old farmhouse. Its was two stories...and it was the type of place that just seeps energy. You can look at the thing and it just makes you kinda crazy. The downstairs was ok...you felt a bit uncomfy..but it was tolerable...The upstairs however was possessd.You would feel short of breath...your heart rate would go up...and it felt like whatever was there wanted you dead.And you KNEW without a doubt that something was there.Her parents bedroom was downstairs.. Her bedroom and her lil brothers bedrooms were upstairs.(nice huh?) We would sit downstairs..and just listen to footsteps going back and forth...whispering...evil evil giggling( i mean fuckin evil) We would go halfway up the stairs..and it would stop...but the feeling was worse than the sounds ever could be. This place was intense. One night we kept hearing something hitting the floor upstairs. it went on for about 10 minutes before we got up the balls to go up and check it out. It was coming from her brothers rooms. We opened the door...and nothing was happening. We stood there..congratulating ourselves for being paranoid stoner freaks..and something falls off her brothers dresser and on to the floor. It was a marble. There was a whole bag of them up there. It rolled across the floor, then rolled around in a circle and joined about 10 others that had created there own little marble puddle. more...
partykids2003
11-12-2002, 04:03 AM
ahhh..crap...I just wrote a very long page and somehow cleared it...im gonna have to finish tomorrow...its like 5:00 in the mornin...god damnit.
part 2...tomorrow.
Triplan
11-12-2002, 09:55 PM
When I was around 5 or 6 I used to sleep on a small couch that was in the living room, and there was another couch that came with it, it was the same color and everything except it was a little bigger. Almost everynight I would lay there and there would be a small dog (a baset hound I think) sitting on the arm of the couch, it would sit there until I fell asleep, all it would do is look around and it always looked REALLY sad.
Another thing that I used to see is my dad had put together a puzzle that showed the United States and framed it.. And as I would lay on the couch I would see a cowboy walk around and twirl his lasso (sp?).
Something that scared the shit out of me when I was younger.. We had two bathrooms in our old house and one of them was at the top of a long staircase.. And one time, I was walking up the stairs to use the bathroom and I saw my younger brother walking down the stairs towards me except I could see through him and his body was changing all these different colors and he had an angry stare on his face.
I could never explain that, becuase my brother isn't even dead, but he was living with my dad at the time.
One more thing that has happened.. Me and my OLDER brother used to share a room that was upstairs and in order to get into the attic you had to go through our room.. And during the night we would hear scrathcing and sometimes even see the door try to open, but ti was always stopped by this shitty lock we had on there..
All of this happened at the same house.. Ok, this post is probably hella long so I'll stop there.
partykids2003
11-12-2002, 11:18 PM
ok..after the marble thing happend..we ran and sat in the field until her parents came home. a couple few weeks later..her little brother tried to suffocate his little stepsister while they were playing in his room. My friend walked into the room and he had a pillow over the little girls face.she had to kick him to get him off of her. He didnt even remember doing anything to her. This is where it gets worse. They moved across town into this nice house. After a couple weeks you started to get a weird feeling...and about a week after that...the noises came back.
One day we were watching the kids. I went to the bathroom..the bathroom had two doors..one that opened from the kitchen and the other went to the parents bedroom. I was washing my hands and i saw something in the mirror. It was an eye. A really ugly eye attached to a malformed head. it moved when i saw it...and then i saw its mouth. it was a huge lipless slash....all jagged. The thing didnt have any hair...its skin was pale with shiney brownish blotches. I couldnt really move..I would have pissed myself if i hadnt just gone. It started to move again...and just started screaming. I ran as fast as i could...grabbed the kids and the phone and we all sat out in the lawn while i called the sheriff. more..(juss a lil bit)
partykids2003
11-12-2002, 11:28 PM
you could hear doors banging inside the house...shit falling off of shelves...it was the scariest thing ever. Her parents got home before the sheriff showed up (go figure) The house was trashed, but there was no sign of my little friend anywhere. I never went back in the house. They moved about two months later to texas. Whenever I drive by either of the houses now...i know that thing is sitting inside..and I know it can sense me too. *heebieJeebies*
For all of you looking to go " ghost hunting" send me an email...I have been to almost all the well known "haunted" places in oregon. Call it a hobby. They like me...Im like a wierd shit magnet.
Also..there is a book called Oregons ghosts and monsters that you might like. Its a pretty right on book.
Sweet dreams kiddies..i must sleep.
Just curious but if you accept the actuality of ghost then you would probably have to accept the possibilities of all kinds of paranormal phenomena.So why when you see something strange is it defined as a ghost? Why couldnt it be your latent tele-kinetic powers? Why couldnt it a warp in space and time? Why isnt it a vampire cat with lazer eyes? Seems you people like to define and quantifiy even things that require an "openmind".
Yungrii Mobliatri
08-11-2003, 04:52 PM
my grandma thought she saw ghosts all the time.
and then one day she thought that there was a giant cruise boat being made inside of a home.
it was really sad when my very old and very white grandmother's long time relationship with a very young and handsome black man ended when he tragically died in a plane accident where his life was consumed in the waters of the pacific ocean.
but she just had alzhiemers and then she died.
bugletti
08-11-2003, 07:08 PM
When I was about 12 or 13, I was visiting my aunt and uncle for the summer. They lived on a horse ranch and lived in an old farmhouse. I had to sleep in the front room, which was right off the living room. My cousin had sworn that ghosts lived in that room, and my aunt could always hear "something walking around," like up and down the stairs.
I, however, did not believe it. However, one night I was sleeping and awoke abrubtly. I rolled over and looked at the rocking chair in the corner. It was rocking back and forth slowly and there was a shadowy white figure of an old woman sitting in it.
She didn't do anything scary or anything....it was just disconcerting to see a ghost sititng in the rocking chair in my room.
I slept on the couch for the rest of the visit.
nouseforaname
08-13-2003, 08:40 AM
i have seen some wierd shit i couldnt explain at this house i lived in when i was i growing up in renton.. but i never actually saw a ghost. just a bunch of wierd noises and moving objects.
brandon
PussiCORE
08-14-2003, 04:08 PM
I believe in ghosts and yes I've seen em!
In 4th grade I was laying in my bed trying to get to sleep. It was a struggle because the whole night eerie sounds had been going off around my room. Finally I heard something coming from the ceiling and I saw footsteps appear, disappear, and continue to walk along every wall and ceiling. Creepy...
Yungrii Mobliatri
08-14-2003, 04:42 PM
AND YOURE AT POST 666 , pussicore, SPOOKESVILLE!
has anyone else caught that these mostly happen at night while people aer half conscious or paranoid?
Yungrii Mobliatri
08-14-2003, 04:47 PM
...and i dont mean to be rude. if you beleive it, go ahead, but i dont. sorry. i'll need it to happen to me first.
EviLKat
08-14-2003, 05:01 PM
I'm very easily scared, even though I don't believe in ghosts and whatnot. I appreciate everyone's stories though!
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