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TeknoAXE
10-07-2002, 02:33 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/South/10/07/shootings.maryland/index.html
AXE
burnt
10-07-2002, 02:54 PM
I think its cool that Charles Moose is investigating this, do you remember Charles Moose? I always dug him. is it lame to respect a cop? oh well. I really hope they catch this weirdo, and Moose is probably intelligent (and jaded) enough to catch him.
Cedwyn
10-07-2002, 04:37 PM
that freak is getting close to where my family and friends live....
:(
Rude Boy
10-08-2002, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by burnt
I think its cool that Charles Moose is investigating this, do you remember Charles Moose? I always dug him. is it lame to respect a cop? oh well. I really hope they catch this weirdo, and Moose is probably intelligent (and jaded) enough to catch him.
Yea, I actually kinda liked Moose.
When I saw on the news the 'sniper' claimed a 13-year old yesterday, I couldn't help but feel angry. The news is my number one source of grief. :(
HexRei
10-08-2002, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by burnt
I think its cool that Charles Moose is investigating this, do you remember Charles Moose? I always dug him. is it lame to respect a cop? oh well. I really hope they catch this weirdo, and Moose is probably intelligent (and jaded) enough to catch him.
Moose used to be the PDX chief. I'm pretty sure he left amidst scandal...
HexRei
10-08-2002, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Rude Boy
Yea, I actually kinda liked Moose.
When I saw on the news the 'sniper' claimed a 13-year old yesterday, I couldn't help but feel angry. The news is my number one source of grief. :(
last i heard, the kid is not dead. in critical but stable condition.
Rude Boy
10-08-2002, 09:32 AM
Werd, I didn't mean to imply a fatality. And yes, the news let me in on that grievance as well.
Roddimus
10-08-2002, 09:35 AM
These attacks are freaky.
Anyone see these as possibly being the start of the next wave of terrorist activity?
Or are they just the work of some nut job in an Econoline?
Also...What about that Ft. Louis guy who tried to gun down some people in Lacey over the weekend?
I hope he was just some wanker copycat like the police are suggesting...'Cause if they're in anyway connected, I'm more than willing to be pretty freaked out...
HexRei
10-08-2002, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Roddimus
These attacks are freaky.
Anyone see these as possibly being the start of the next wave of terrorist activity?
Or are they just the work of some nut job in an Econoline?
Also...What about that Ft. Louis guy who tried to gun down some people in Lacey over the weekend?
I hope he was just some wanker copycat like the police are suggesting...'Cause if they're in anyway connected, I'm more than willing to be pretty freaked out...
It doesn't seem like terrorism, because no one has claimed responsibility, and there is no obvious political objective.
Right now, it just seems like someone who like to shoot people. I hope they catch this fucker and fry him.
booboo69
10-08-2002, 09:49 AM
Yeah. This, to me, is a helluva lot scarier than anything else that's happened in the last several years. And even more so because it's random. I'd be pretty scared to go outside with all this going on over there...
Roddimus
10-08-2002, 11:02 AM
It doesn't seem like terrorism, because no one has claimed responsibility, and there is no obvious political objective.
I would think a terrorist's primary objective would be to incite terror, rather than make a political statement.
And Al Qaida didn't immediately claim responsibility for 9-11. Everyone simply assumed it was them until the video surfaced of Bin Laden bragging about how great the attacks went.
I dunno...It might not be terrorism, but in this day and age, the possibility is always there...
Brooklynn
10-08-2002, 11:45 AM
I lived in Montgomery County (Rockville, Bethesda) for 12 years until 99.
My friends are scared. I have been reading their livejournals and they are going crazy with anxiety. Apparently they closed down a huge section of 355 the other day just because there was a suspicious white van.
My friend said that she feels the need every so often to duck or jump to the side "just in case". I am so glad I am not there. I would become a shaky neurotic little thing.
burnt
10-08-2002, 11:47 AM
of course its terrorism. are terrorists brown-skinned people of Middle Eastern descent? no. terrorists are rabid individuals, who wish to subjugate the masses by fear. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist. Kip Kinkle was a terrorist.
HexRei
10-08-2002, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Roddimus
I would think a terrorist's primary objective would be to incite terror, rather than make a political statement.
And Al Qaida didn't immediately claim responsibility for 9-11. Everyone simply assumed it was them until the video surfaced of Bin Laden bragging about how great the attacks went.
I dunno...It might not be terrorism, but in this day and age, the possibility is always there...
I think that is just a recent trend. McVeigh was caught almost immediately, and didn't have time to announce responsibility.
Al Quaeda had very good reason not to claim responsibility- they succeeded in pissing us off to the point that much the western world's military was hunting them :)
Two of the three dictionary.com defs for terrorism mention political causes and coercion tactics... and maybe I'm oldskool, but whatever happened to the old days of groups like the IRA that actually bothered to claim responsibility for their acts?
In closing, I don't think our sniper is a terrorist. I think he's just a sociopath.
meltymilton
10-08-2002, 06:10 PM
yeha i grew up from when i was 2months to when i was 15 right off Rockville Pike....my friends are preatty scared...eveyone is on like lock down and stuff. Im so glad i nolonger live in DC. Look at what a shitty years they have been having (well mabey alittle over a year).
burnt
10-08-2002, 06:23 PM
just saw an article on Inside Edition about this.
I know, Inside Edition isn't exactly the pinnacle of responsible journalism, but some fat man in a suit from Johns Hopkins who is a terrorist consultant, is consulting w/Moose and company on this. and at least the consultant appears to show some degree of integrity and knowledge. even for an Inside Edition interviewee =)
he agrees that this is a classic case of terrorism. because, ultimately, what does a terrorist do?
a terrorist frightens a community, rounds them up like cattle into a sociological agenda, and holds them there....through the use of fear.
doing these terrible deeds because you love god, or because you hate uncle sam, or because the rice crispies tell you to...is irrelevant to the definition of the word.
*shrugs* its an unimportant debate, because overall nobody supports this freak, but I'm just saying. terrorism is a tactic employed by small factions, for isolated purposes....terrorism is not a governmental or religious fundamental belief held by any kinds of masses. don't believe that bullshit when you're told otherwise. even by smarty websites like dictionary.com.
look at the word:
terror - to be scared, something scary
ism - a practice or belief.
terror-ism, is simply, the belief and worship of terror, as an ethical, motivating factor.
terrorists don't by default all pledge allegiance to allah. and everyone who pledges allegiance to allah is not by default a terrorist.
terrorists simply believe, "I hate all these fuckers, and I'm going to singlehandedly hurt and scare all of them, and change all of their minds by doing so."
thats all. this maniac is subjugating an entire region of our nation, by scaring them. this maniac most likely knows that his actions are frightening the entire region, and is probably proud of this fact. therefore, this maniac is a terrorist.
brown-skinned worshippers of allah, are not terrorists. well, usually...people who brazenly hurt and scare large regions & demographics of society, in order to attain and retain power, are terrorists.
*steps off his soapbox*
Roddimus
10-09-2002, 08:39 AM
It's actually starting to look like this is the work of a nut job.
The police found a "note" left by him at the school earlier. It was written on a death Tarot card and only said "I am God."
So I guess my international terrorist connection probably isn't the case here.
Either way tho, it's still freaky as fuck.
HexRei
10-09-2002, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by burnt
just saw an article on Inside Edition about this.
I know, Inside Edition isn't exactly the pinnacle of responsible journalism, but some fat man in a suit from Johns Hopkins who is a terrorist consultant, is consulting w/Moose and company on this. and at least the consultant appears to show some degree of integrity and knowledge. even for an Inside Edition interviewee =)
he agrees that this is a classic case of terrorism. because, ultimately, what does a terrorist do?
a terrorist frightens a community, rounds them up like cattle into a sociological agenda, and holds them there....through the use of fear.
doing these terrible deeds because you love god, or because you hate uncle sam, or because the rice crispies tell you to...is irrelevant to the definition of the word.
*shrugs* its an unimportant debate, because overall nobody supports this freak, but I'm just saying. terrorism is a tactic employed by small factions, for isolated purposes....terrorism is not a governmental or religious fundamental belief held by any kinds of masses. don't believe that bullshit when you're told otherwise. even by smarty websites like dictionary.com.
look at the word:
terror - to be scared, something scary
ism - a practice or belief.
terror-ism, is simply, the belief and worship of terror, as an ethical, motivating factor.
terrorists don't by default all pledge allegiance to allah. and everyone who pledges allegiance to allah is not by default a terrorist.
terrorists simply believe, "I hate all these fuckers, and I'm going to singlehandedly hurt and scare all of them, and change all of their minds by doing so."
thats all. this maniac is subjugating an entire region of our nation, by scaring them. this maniac most likely knows that his actions are frightening the entire region, and is probably proud of this fact. therefore, this maniac is a terrorist.
brown-skinned worshippers of allah, are not terrorists. well, usually...people who brazenly hurt and scare large regions & demographics of society, in order to attain and retain power, are terrorists.
*steps off his soapbox*
Well, I'm sure our "terrorist expert" is probably very ready to call this terrorism, thus justifying more costly consultations (and free exposure) with him ;) But by this definition Ted Bundy and Charles Manson and most every other serial killer are terrorists!?!?
I don't think this is terrorism because terrorism involves using fear as a tool for coercion towards some sort of political or ideological goal (at least, by every definition I've seen).
This person does not appear to have a goal beyond killing.
mchll888
10-09-2002, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by burnt
of course its terrorism. are terrorists brown-skinned people of Middle Eastern descent? no. terrorists are rabid individuals, who wish to subjugate the masses by fear. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist. Kip Kinkle was a terrorist.
I agree with that.
mchll888
10-09-2002, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by HexRei
Well, I'm sure our "terrorist expert" is probably very ready to call this terrorism, thus justifying more costly consultations (and free exposure) with him ;) But by this definition Ted Bundy and Charles Manson and most every other serial killer are terrorists!?!?
I don't think this is terrorism because terrorism involves using fear as a tool for coercion towards some sort of political or ideological goal (at least, by every definition I've seen).
This person does not appear to have a goal beyond killing.
How do you know what his goals are.......I think he probably loves the fact that he can get away with this and loves the fact that he is in control. Our terrified feelings are getting him off. If he were "just killing people" he would run down the street shooting anyone he can. He is thinking about all of this. So it is not just random killing. It is premeditated........Look at the time he is putting into it. The sick thing is, he is probably humored by all of the sadness and fear he is causing. He looks at our outpouring of emotions as silly because he most likely shows no emotion.
SICK BASTARDS.....
ZupanGOD
10-09-2002, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by HexRei
It doesn't seem like terrorism, because no one has claimed responsibility, and there is no obvious political objective.
Right now, it just seems like someone who like to shoot people. I hope they catch this fucker and fry him.
What? You mean it does seem like Terrorism right? The shooter leaves a note saying "Dear policeman, I am God" and he's not a terrorist?
-Jason
ZupanGOD
10-09-2002, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Roddimus
These attacks are freaky.
Anyone see these as possibly being the start of the next wave of terrorist activity?
Or are they just the work of some nut job in an Econoline?
Also...What about that Ft. Louis guy who tried to gun down some people in Lacey over the weekend?
I hope he was just some wanker copycat like the police are suggesting...'Cause if they're in anyway connected, I'm more than willing to be pretty freaked out...
Good question Rodd. The FBI and Ashcroft did warn us months ago that these type of attacks would be expected.
-Jason
burnt
10-09-2002, 11:47 AM
But by this definition Ted Bundy and Charles Manson and most every other serial killer are terrorists!?!?
yes. exactly. terrorists are persons who attempt to control others through the use of fear. terrorists represent small, isolated factions.
it would do good to be mindful of this fact. politics and religion are merely coincidental, motivational factors, in *certain* cases of terrorism.
politics do not drive terrorism, violence and irrationality drives terrorism.
bungle bliss
10-10-2002, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by ZupanGOD
What? You mean it does seem like Terrorism right? The shooter leaves a note saying "Dear policeman, I am God" and he's not a terrorist?
-Jason
I don't think (this is my opnion, nothing more) that the card was left by the sniper.
I think some young dork left it there after the shell casing was found.
The sniper is professionally trained. That has already been determined.
The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say this is the work of the US Government to "incite terror", and even if the guy seen leaving the scene was white and in a caravan, I'd bet anything that the "suspect" they catch for these crimes is of Arabic descent.
I wouldn't normally think this, but...I was watching a war-monger general on tv saying that the first battle to fight in this nonsense war was on the "psychological front". He *did not* say, however, if that meant here or over in the Middle East.
What better way to do so over here than to stir up the very worst nightmare of being randomly killed in the name of Allah?
It's probably just some kook, but either way...I think the sniping is cool, for the simple fact that the killer isn't doing it to get attention, like the high-school rejects that gun everyone down in the name of "LOOK AT ME! I'M HURT!". He seems to just be someone who looked around, said "I hate all you motherfuckers", and decided to release some aggression. He'll most likely shoot himself soon and that will be the end of it. Or he's a corrupt official hired by the government on a low-budget psychological warfare front, since they've learned by now how ignorant America is and how much $$$ they can save "cashing in" on that fact. Make them think it's terrorism organized by Osama bin-dropped-off-the-radar-screen.
OR, another theory presented that I give credence to is that he/she is a Gulf-war vet, sick because of exposure to chemical warfare that the government is denying ever took place, and they won't help him pay his medical bills.
BUT, however you slice it, it's "terrorism". Too bad in this country, "terrorism" is still linked to "Arabic", for some stupid reason.
We'll see how it peters out. If they don't catch him at all, or catch an "Arab" man in connection with these shootings, I will be zero percent surprised.
HexRei
10-10-2002, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by ZupanGOD
What? You mean it does seem like Terrorism right? The shooter leaves a note saying "Dear policeman, I am God" and he's not a terrorist?
-Jason
I think the note means he is NOT a terrorist.
Five years ago this person would have been labelled a sociopath with psychotic tendencies. The word "terrorist" used to be reserved for those with a clear agenda, using terror to further that agenda.
Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
--FBI Definition
I see terror, although I see no proof that causing terror is his ultimate goal. I see no clear attemps to coerce us toward any agenda in particular, and I see no political or ideological agenda behind his actions either.
The reason I refuse to call this person a terrorist is because it is a ridiculous broadening of the term. It equates anyone who intentionally hurts or scares someone else with a terrorist, which is a considerably different definition than has been used in the past.
If it turns out that he is in fact doing this because he has some goal that he feels can be attained through causing terror, then he could be a terrorist. As of now, he just looks like a megalomaniacal sociopath who gets off on shooting people.
HexRei
10-10-2002, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by burnt
yes. exactly. terrorists are persons who attempt to control others through the use of fear. terrorists represent small, isolated factions.
it would do good to be mindful of this fact. politics and religion are merely coincidental, motivational factors, in *certain* cases of terrorism.
politics do not drive terrorism, violence and irrationality drives terrorism.
I have done a considerable amount of research on both Bundy and Manson, and have never seen either of them referred to as "terrorists" in any manner.
Your definition is certainly very different from, for instance, the FBI's:
Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
--FBI Definition
Carley
10-10-2002, 07:51 AM
I don't think (this is my opnion, nothing more) that the card was left by the sniper.
I think some young dork left it there after the shell casing was found.
Hehheh... just for fun ~ I do think the person would have to be not only completely-fucking-insane, but completely fucking stupid (mentally retarded perhaps?) as well ~ I mean, a Tarot card? It just doesn't jive. S/He's taking out people with a snipers rifle. That just doesn't scream WooWoo "I am God ~ hahaha" to me. That does sound like a 15 year old.
I would think if this sniper (the "I kill kids on their way to school" Sniper) wanted to leave a message ~ it would be written in blood on a huge banner scaling across two skyscrapers :)
As of now, he just looks like a megalomaniacal sociopath who gets off on shooting people.
Word.
~c
foofy
10-10-2002, 07:58 AM
i can already see this whole thing being turned into a movie.
but what the fuck, id go and see it.
who do you think would play the cop? they'd probably cast tommy lee jones or some shit..
186k\sec
10-10-2002, 10:43 AM
The shooter leaves a note saying "Dear policeman, I am God" and he's not a terrorist?
is God a terrorist?
i think its safe to say - he's not really God.
religious freak perhaps..
Odizus
10-10-2002, 11:36 AM
So in discussion with family, the general ideal thought for thius guy is that it's some punk kid 13-17. Because he shows no prejuduse. He kills anyone. Old people, women. children. I guess adults have more remorse. But personal i thing it's a cubical nut job getting back at every one cause his life sucks, but what ever. :confused:
He only said the god remark baecause of things said on national tv. Some guy mentioned it and then the next killing he left that as a calling card.
TeknoAXE
10-10-2002, 12:45 PM
I would say, at this point, that there's no way to base any conclusions on whether this guy is a terrorist or not. There's simply too little data to go on to form a picture of any motive or any method at all. In especially with the tactics of sniping. If you can shoot a rifle 1000 meters away and kill someone, then if you had an agenda, you wouldn't be wasting your time on some county that happens to be near D.C. You'd go straight to D.C.
AXE
ZupanGOD
10-11-2002, 08:04 AM
We have yet to see any of the "experts" in the media touch base on what we thought so we sent this off to FOX News:
Subject: I know the Sniper Motive
Importance: High
Please see that this information gets to the investigators of this case!
I have observed the habits of the sniper in reports and have found there to be religious meanings behind his victim selection.
He has targeted Michael’s chain stores and locations around the stores. Michael is the angel fighting against Satan in heaven recorded in the Christian Bible.
As seen in this verse:
There was a war in heaven:
Michael and his angels faught against the dragon;
and the dragon faught and his angels, and prevailed not;
neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,
called the Devil, and Satan,
which decieveth the whole world he was cast out into the earth,
and his angels were cast out with him...
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.
Woe to the inhabitors of the earth and of the sea
for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath,
because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Revelation 12:7-9, 12
Satan is the fallen one from heaven who attempted to be above God.
As seen in this verse:
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isaiah 14:12-14
He has claimed is his tarot card message: “I am God.”
When I recalled these verses it shocked me how clear this snipers message seems to be!
As for the others victimized; it seems as if he is selecting people at gas stations could be his feelings expressed towards America’s decision to go to war with Iraq. Oil/gas being the location choice for victims. Some feel the war in Iraq is motivated by control over oil.
The child victim was simply to show his disregard for our decision to feel safe despite his actions.
This coordination of facts could help police figure out his overall plan. It is possible he wants us to figure out this puzzle before he ends his acts of murder.
Terrorism with religious and political motivation can not be counted out of this investigation! Please see that this information gets to the investigators of this case!
Any comments?
Boyd Main
10-11-2002, 09:37 AM
Ha ha ha Zupe! Too many bong hits last night? You're sounding like a conspiracy theorist of the highest order. Either that, or you should be workng for the FBI with your razor sharp insights.
Anyway, what are you people talking about, terrorist? Terrorist my butthole. Psychopath yes, terrorist no, for the reasons Hex pointed out. I mean shit, late last year group of people in CA were intercepted after attemping to buy explosives for the purpose of blowing up a mosque and a congressman's office. And they weren't even labelled terrorists, probably because they were Jewish and everyone know that the only real terrorists are damn Ayrabs. I mean, how can we call this sniper a terrorist if we don't even know if (s)he is an arab?
/end sarcasm
My opinion, I agree with Bungle bliss. This is a military trained loner with a grudge. Gulf war vet? maybe. All the best killers are trained by the military.
Originally posted by ZupanGOD
Subject: I know the Sniper Motive
Importance: High
Classic, Zupe. That was really impressive.
EV
ps - not just what I quoted above, obviously - I didn't want to be one of those assholes that quotes the whole screed.
Carley
10-11-2002, 10:05 AM
you should be workng for the FBI with your razor sharp insights.
Yeah... man, I guess I'm not familiar enough with the suburbs of Maryland & Virginia to know there was a Michael's near every shooting location.
But get this! Bruce Bingham worked at the gas station ~ Bingham, if you add an 'r' for racist and take out the 'n' for 'nation' that leaves 'Brigham' like 'Brigham Young' a MORMON college!! Also: one of the victims was shot outside a supermarket! Man, this wo/man must really hate food. Not only that, but they are searching for a WHITE van! The sniper is quite obviously a Jainist turned Mormon White Supremicist.
;) I'm calling Fox News RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZupanGOD
10-11-2002, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Boyd Main
Ha ha ha Zupe! Too many bong hits last night? You're sounding like a conspiracy theorist of the highest order. Either that, or you should be workng for the FBI with your razor sharp insights.
I'm just giving a possible senario.
Anyway, what are you people talking about, terrorist? Terrorist my butthole. Psychopath yes, terrorist no, for the reasons Hex pointed out. I mean shit, late last year group of people in CA were intercepted after attemping to buy explosives for the purpose of blowing up a mosque and a congressman's office. And they weren't even labelled terrorists, probably because they were Jewish and everyone know that the only real terrorists are damn Ayrabs. I mean, how can we call this sniper a terrorist if we don't even know if (s)he is an arab?
Arabs? Terrorism is defined by ethnic backgrounds?
/end sarcasm
My opinion, I agree with Bungle bliss. This is a military trained loner with a grudge. Gulf war vet? maybe. All the best killers are trained by the military.
Have you never fired a weapon or something? I don't think you would have to be an expert marksman to pull these shootings off.
ZupanGOD
10-11-2002, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Carley
Yeah... man, I guess I'm not familiar enough with the suburbs of Maryland & Virginia to know there was a Michael's near every shooting location.
But get this! Bruce Bingham worked at the gas station ~ Bingham, if you add an 'r' for racist and take out the 'n' for 'nation' that leaves 'Brigham' like 'Brigham Young' a MORMON college!! Also: one of the victims was shot outside a supermarket! Man, this wo/man must really hate food. Not only that, but they are searching for a WHITE van! The sniper is quite obviously a Jainist turned Mormon White Supremicist.
;) I'm calling Fox News RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey I got more. My girlfriend sent me an email that occured to her about the white van.
-----
Revelation 6:2 - And I saw, and behold, a white horse, and its rider had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
A white Chevy Astro van has been seen in some instances. It could be symbolic as well if he is driving a white van. The verse above is the Christ, son of God on a white horse (which is symbolism of purity and perfection) as he prepares to conquer Satan in a final battle.
If the sniper thinks he is God he would play this role on the white horse during this fight. He would be the one being the right with the power to conquer evil.
I could be going too far with this observation, but who knows, it’s possible
Boyd Main
10-11-2002, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by ZupanGOD
Arabs? Terrorism is defined by ethnic backgrounds?
Not in my mind, but I get the feeling that in many other minds it is, sadly
Have you never fired a weapon or something? I don't think you would have to be an expert marksman to pull these shootings off.
No, I've never fired a weapon. But there is historical weight to the arguement that this is a fucked-up ex-military fool. Wasn't that guy who shot all those people from the church tower in Texas a marine trained sniper. I'm sure there are other examples that I can't quite think of now.
If the sniper thinks he is God he would play this role on the white horse during this fight. He would be the one being the right with the power to conquer evil.
I think you're onto something here Zupe. The sniper is actually that guy from Creed.
burnt
10-11-2002, 11:52 AM
*reads this post*
jesus christ, and people call *ME* a paranoid know-it-all...........
you really sent that to FOX news, or are you just being a smartass?
=)
ZupanGOD
10-11-2002, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by burnt
*reads this post*
jesus christ, and people call *ME* a paranoid know-it-all...........
you really sent that to FOX news, or are you just being a smartass?
=)
Yeah bro, my girlfriend sent it to a few people including FOX and myself. When the tarrot card info came out my girlfriend started to ponder if the shootings were motivated by some type of connection with the bible. I thought it was interesting what she told me so I posted. It got me thinking, I thought It would stir a few minds here, so I shared.
Take care,
-Jason
ZupanGOD
10-11-2002, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Boyd Main
Not in my mind, but I get the feeling that in many other minds it is, sadly
Well a bunch of Islamo-facists kill thousands of innocent people, can you blame them for perhaps having fear for those who want to kill us?
No, I've never fired a weapon. But there is historical weight to the arguement that this is a fucked-up ex-military fool. Wasn't that guy who shot all those people from the church tower in Texas a marine trained sniper. I'm sure there are other examples that I can't quite think of now.
What gives you that impression? Fill me in, I havn't really saw anyone make that claim. Got a quick link to share? Thanks bro.
I think you're onto something here Zupe. The sniper is actually that guy from Creed.
Creed?
-Jason
HexRei
10-11-2002, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by ZupanGOD
We have yet to see any of the "experts" in the media touch base on what we thought so we sent this off to FOX News:
Subject: I know the Sniper Motive
Importance: High
Yeah, I can imagine the minimum-wage flunkies scanning through the emails in the Fox News inbox... "Crazy... Illegible... Completely nuts... Hold on there Bob, this one is marked High Importance! Call the president, we've got front-page news!"
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