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theperfectcyn
01-18-2003, 10:02 AM
oh yeah, that jade has more than the basics down!!
i am in love with this girl's music, get used to some swooning ;)
nice to see her tagging w/ guest WIKKED there toward the end of her set, too... jade's trax were the hard ones, wikked were more melodic - best of both!

DJ RAP - i went into this skeptically, i've heard mixed reviews of her. after i heard about an hour i was able to put my own assessment together. the first about 3 tracks or so were waaaaaay to insane for me! i never thought i'd say that. but it was like big AMNESIA size room DnB at 12:30am with the house not completely full yet. i know you're supposed to come in and take over but i felt like it was too much.
BUT, just about the time i said that out loud, she started dropping some SICK tracks, which i can only assume that she also produced. some cool reverby-vox, which i think are her own, all that stuff was COOL as shit. about 1/2 way through she started getting into it, jumping up and down, hands in the air, very cute. and SHORT! haha

mixing- i heard some SLIGHTLY off stuff but nothing that made me cringe. i think tha she produces all her own tracks makes up for it for sure.

i missed electrokid!!! one of these days..... maybe tonight!

WerdUp
01-18-2003, 10:53 AM
I was very happyto be there last night. OMG this was off the hook. Way to go Ohm for bringin in the talent consistently.

Jade- SICK track selection. Those who did not show up early missed out big time. Some kid came up to one of my boys and asked if this was gonna get cool. We all laughed and said listen this is already cool. If Mad props to you girl, I will definatly go see her again.

DJ RAP- What else can you say be hot. Dope selction of tracks, bringin it jump up style mixed in with a little evil on the side. Mad respect goes out to her. UK knows what is up. Can't wait till she comes back in town.

Electorkid- OMG you gotta love this guy. I feel like I am in a video game with him playing. Everytime he brings it and I gotta say he brings it sick like. Nice tag team action to with Rap. Seemed like Rap enjoyed playing 2 step more the DnB. Hot way to start this set.

All in all what a great night. No complaints whatsoever. I only feel bad because when I asked for the rewind on" Harder and Faster" the technical difficulties happend. Someone said you jinxed her man. I am sorry y'all, but that track is just to hot not to hear twice.

Can't wait for the DB and the Dara on tha 26th. Once again the OHm fuckin brings the hot shit to make ya shake your ass.

Piece Out

Smonky
01-18-2003, 12:03 PM
yeah pretty much im in awe of the occurances last night, big props to the ohm for some of the baddest parties that ive been to in awhile. Humongous props to Dj Rap, not only one of the most beautiful ladies, but also had mad talent. Great party. for sure.

Nukegrrrl
01-18-2003, 03:51 PM
It was great to see DJ Rap, but I wish she had an Apple laptop instead of the VAIO, which is guaranteed to freeze. Also, she should of had records with her and relied less on Final Scratch (which is not "experimental"). It was a nice night at Ohm, but I've seen the Misstress of Drum and Bass do better.

LocDog
01-18-2003, 07:08 PM
but I wish she had an Apple laptop instead of the VAIO

that is quite simply the strangest show review i have ever read.

(note, if the laptop was being used with final scratch, then it was running linux.... the instability problems your associating with the sony, although extremely blanket, are probably better blamed on the windows os and not the sony or it's components. the mac version of final scratch is not yet availble, so had she taken this advice, it would have put her in quite a pickle when she went to use final scratch.)

i wish i would have went. we talked about it, and i've only caught a few minutes of jade at the red sea but i was really fucking impressed.

Chris Tafari
01-18-2003, 11:33 PM
i too have heard mixed reviews concerning dj rap...

and after going to last nights show, i would have to side with the "not so good" opinion. for example, i remember more then a few times where she would not even bother to mix her records, rather she would just bust a not so smooth fade in and fade out.

last time i checked, dj's of her caliber who get paid the serious jack are the same dj's that should make you walk away and say "god damm that shit was dope!" dj rap technically did not do that for me.

however, her track selection was sooo fucking fresh, and i found that it definitely made up for the poor mixing!

and finally, the OR locals came through once again! Electrokid and Jade/Wikkid did a bang up job in showin how its done out here in da beaver state! RESPECT :D

suppoz
01-19-2003, 12:33 AM
enjoyable, for sure, but what was up with the sound on Friday? The Ohm usually has a very full sound, but they were missing a lot of midrange or something last night which left the bass dominating and the rest fairly thin...and somewhat quiet. wierd. hope it was just my ears.

i thought DJ Rap lived up to what I'd heard about her: good tracks, ok mixing. I agree with the person who said that DJs of her caliber should make me walk away saying "Damn..." and she didn't do that. but then again, I wasn't expecting her to and I had a good time. Ruffneck techstep, from old to new, with a little bit of other styles thrown in.

I saw the end of Jade's set which seemed good and didn't stick around for Elektrokid as I was feeling sick.

at any rate, 'nuff respect to Ohm for continuing to bring the good names around to Portland. can't wait for next weekend (Dara and DB)!!!

ta,
--s-tephen

daehl
01-19-2003, 01:44 PM
Had great fun, killer tunes killer djs. Good clean fun without accessories!!!

concept
01-19-2003, 03:10 PM
Thumbs up! I had so much fun at this. The breaks finished the night off so perfectly. Good friends, good music, good drinks, great vibe!

djLefty
01-19-2003, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by LocDog
(note, if the laptop was being used with final scratch, then it was running linux.... the instability problems your associating with the sony, although extremely blanket, are probably better blamed on the windows os and not the sony or it's components. the mac version of final scratch is not yet availble, so had she taken this advice, it would have put her in quite a pickle when she went to use final scratch.)


you can install linux on a mac...but I can't confirm if final scratch works properly with a linux ppc distro.

Dano
01-20-2003, 10:27 AM
First order of business. The Sony laptop did not freeze up nor did the final scratch act up. As we were trying to get things working, we discovered someone had kicked the power cord out of the wall. It was as simple as that. Second, the night was beyond my expectations. Was not expecting her to play as hard or as dark as she did, and the breaks/ two step tag team with Jed (Electrokid) to finish off the night was a blast. All told she stayed on stage around the turntables for almost 4 hours. Special thanks to Jade Bassix for staying till 12:00 even though she had to play again in Tacoma later that morning. Great set Maressa you'll be hearing from Ohm again. Also to Electrokid, Jed thanks for being willing to tag with Rap to close out the night I know it cut into the set you were planning to play.

Overall the night went off better than I expected. Thanks to everyone who showed up. See you all this weekend.

electrokid
01-20-2003, 08:15 PM
i had a great time playing at this! believe me, i would be silly to complain about tagging a set w/ dj rap. although it was challenging at times considering the fact that i had no idea whatsoever what she was going to play but overall i am happy with how it turned out. thank you for the hookup dano.

does anyone have any pics?

Chris Tafari
01-20-2003, 09:34 PM
does anyone have any pics?

i took a few with a point and shoot camera, but alas i have not had a chance to develop the film as of yet...

i'll post 'em hopefully soon.

corbettfields
01-21-2003, 10:09 AM
clearly we are in the midst of a sinister international plot that dupes/ drugs/ tricks clubbers into paying 2-3x normal door prices to see Djs that "can't mix".... you know who i'm talking about.. the Tiestos the Oakenfolds, the Judge Jules', the Raps..... these no good DJs that just trick us all into parting with our cash and have them dominating the dance floors from London to Lisbon and Ibiza to Miami..... it should be stopped!

or maybe the trainspotters should rotate there head a bit, watch the dancefloor where 99% of the people came to dance and have a good time , are bouncing up and down, grinning and waving there hands in the air... and open there ears to the 5 mins between the mixes to listen to the real magic of a great DJ, playing music that makes you dance, sometimes takes you places you rarely get too....

and then maybe they/we would spend a little more time thinking more about the folks who spend there $5,10,20 every night on door tixx to escape a crappy job/week/day/haircut/fight with there SO, etc and spend a lot more time in the rekkid shops lookin for great DANCE tracks and a lot more time on progression..

and if the mixes sound good, great, the 1-2% of the crowd that actually even realise what a DJ does might also be impressed, but who really cares? the dancers? the promoters? the folks on this board? the United States of WHatever? and then maybe THEY could be headlining all the big clubs/shows and be getting slagged off while pocketing serious mulla.....

Jade/Chris did a great warm up... Rap played tunes with elements of 2-step, garage, tarnce, progressive, house swirling over rinsin' jungalist pressa and molded them all into a couple of hours of pure ear to ear grinning sweating FUN..... sorry we didnt get to stay to hear the tagging, sounded excellent.....

Big ups to bringing the d+b to Fridays/Saturdays...

the UK own the d'n'b massives.... High Contrast/ London Electricity soon Dano?? :cool:

LocDog
01-21-2003, 11:06 AM
nice one derek.

maybe someday when i'm not so grumpy, and not so cynical, i'll be able to follow some of that awesome advice.

maybe someday.

George Holland
01-21-2003, 12:14 PM
I have to disagree a little bit..

First, let me agree wholeheartedly with the philosophy of getting on the dancefloor, shutting up and enjoying the music for what it is. Throughout the 9+ years I've spent learning the craft of DJing there have been more than a few occasions where I've had to take a step back, look at myself, and realize that over-scrutinizing DJs is causing me not to have as much fun as I should. Its a good wakeup call when I get too caught up in good mixes, good programming and how much I hate the sound of a hoover. After all, every single one of us got into those scene because of the undeniable force of the music and the music alone, and sometimes its easy to lose sight of that.

Now, having said that, there has to be a minimum standard for headlining DJs. The artform is progressing, and has progressed by leaps and bounds, to the point that not being able to execute a fluid mix is absolutely inexcusable. Its 2003. In 1992 when some of us started partying, not only did we not know what a trainwreck was, but we didn't care when we heard one. Learning how to match beats and mix records was a steeper learning curve for lots of people. But in this day and age, not only are solid fundamentals easier to learn (thanks to the saturation of DJ culture in our lives and the nonstop exposure to DJ styles) but they're also harder to ignore if you're experiencing popularity, because we all know, every time we see a big name DJ fuck up, we think about the 30 friends we have in the crowd that could have nailed that mix tighter, cleaner, faster and with a lot more flair and care.

The other disagreement I have is regarding the people in the crowd that don't know how DJing works and just love the music. First of all MAJOR kudos to them. Sometimes I really long for that happy ignorance when all dance music sounded great and new and wonderful and my eyes were wide and bright with new found excitement. Its truly a wonderful feeling. But, its the DJs job to educate these people and show them that there are intricacies and nuances to DJs that make them artists. Anyone can play great tracks, but its the little intangibles that people come away with that really make a DJ special. Things like proper programming.. taking someone from point A to point B without them noticing the change until the very end of the set.. (i.e. "Wow, when he started it was truckin' along nice and housey and when we were done it was a full on bangin' techno workout, and I didn't even realize it til he was done"), or having the skills to mix into a new track a little sooner than the crowd wants so that you leave them always wanting a little more of what you're givin' em (There's nothing worse than a DJ that sits on his 10 minute records and then mixes the last 16 beats), or getting a crowd going with music they love and then challenging their ideas of what they enjoy by mixing in something completely different and making it work.. (DJ Jeno is a great example of this... his sets quite often will have a human element to them such as a vocal, or natural percussion, etc., but then he'll go off on a tangent, give you a taste of something bizarre and strange, and just when you're a little out of your comfort zone, bring you back to something human and organic... )

Those are the kinds of intangibles that are often A) not practiced by the DJ that feels the pressure to only drop hits B) lost on a crowd that is only fed big name DJs who, in turn, have that pressure to just play hits.

To summarize.. its not that us jaded old man DJs want to hate on undertalented big names.. but its just depressing because we know how GOOD it could really be.


(edited to clarify that Dano still gets full props for bringing in such a great variety of sounds and talent from around the world... the vast majority of which seemed to be based on level of skill rather than marketing power)

Roddimus
01-21-2003, 12:50 PM
Sorry to sound like the typical DnB cynic, but Rap's set was lagging on many levels.
First off, to put one's set entirely on a laptop is foolish, and in my opinion, takes away the level of presence and analog beauty vinyl brings to a show.
Final Scratch should be used as a tool, not a total solution. Not only did DJ Rap open herself up to the inevitable technical problems with relying on a computer, but the sound quality definitely suffered as a result.
Some of the MP3s she played through Final Scratch were just AWFUL sound quality wise. The encoding must have been substandard on some of the tracks, because at times the bass was watery, distorted and all around shitty.
When she was mixing, it sounded pretty solid. Nothing terribly original or innovative, but it did the job.
Overall I had a good time dancing and socializing, but I probably won't be paying to see DJ Rap again.

corbettfields
01-21-2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Roddimus
Sorry to sound like the typical DnB cynic, but Rap's set was lagging on many levels.
First off, to put one's set entirely on a laptop is foolish, and in my opinion, takes away the level of presence and analog beauty vinyl brings to a show.
.

hee hee hee - tell that to Ritchie Hawtin and Josh Wink.... its the results , not the tool surely?

corbettfields
01-21-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by George Holland
I have to disagree a little bit..


Now, having said that, there has to be a minimum standard for headlining DJs. The artform is progressing, and has progressed by leaps and bounds, to the point that not being able to execute a fluid mix is absolutely inexcusable. Its 2003. In 1992 when some of us started partying, not only did we not know what a trainwreck was, but we didn't care when we heard one. Learning how to match beats and mix records was a steeper learning curve for lots of people. But in this day and age, not only are solid fundamentals easier to learn (thanks to the saturation of DJ culture in our lives and the nonstop exposure to DJ styles) but they're also harder to ignore if you're experiencing popularity, because we all know, every time we see a big name DJ fuck up, we think about the 30 friends we have in the crowd that could have nailed that mix tighter, cleaner, faster and with a lot more flair and care.

The other disagreement I have is regarding the people in the crowd that don't know how DJing works and just love the music. First of all MAJOR kudos to them. Sometimes I really long for that happy ignorance when all dance music sounded great and new and wonderful and my eyes were wide and bright with new found excitement. Its truly a wonderful feeling. But, its the DJs job to educate these people and show them that there are intricacies and nuances to DJs that make them artists. Anyone can play great tracks, but its the little intangibles that people come away with that really make a DJ special. Things like proper programming.. taking someone from point A to point B without them noticing the change until the very end of the set.. (i.e. "Wow, when he started it was truckin' along nice and housey and when we were done it was a full on bangin' techno workout, and I didn't even realize it til he was done"), or having the skills to mix into a new track a little sooner than the crowd wants so that you leave them always wanting a little more of what you're givin' em (There's nothing worse than a DJ that sits on his 10 minute records and then mixes the last 16 beats), or getting a crowd going with music they love and then challenging their ideas of what they enjoy by mixing in something completely different and making it work.. (DJ Jeno is a great example of this... his sets quite often will have a human element to them such as a vocal, or natural percussion, etc., but then he'll go off on a tangent, give you a taste of something bizarre and strange, and just when you're a little out of your comfort zone, bring you back to something human and organic... )

Those are the kinds of intangibles that are often A) not practiced by the DJ that feels the pressure to only drop hits B) lost on a crowd that is only fed big name DJs who, in turn, have that pressure to just play hits.

To summarize.. its not that us jaded old man DJs want to hate on undertalented big names.. but its just depressing because we know how GOOD it could really be.


(edited to clarify that Dano still gets full props for bringing in such a great variety of sounds and talent from around the world... the vast majority of which seemed to be based on level of skill rather than marketing power)

George, as always a good response , my reply

1) the minimum expectation IS set - by Joe Public, the audience , the reason that we want to play out (not necessarily why we DJ, we can do that in a bedroom for ourselves - distinct difference).. if it sucked too bad, the people WOULD notice ('cause the groove would have been ruined, etc....it does take pretty good skills to keep a dancefloor going, but it takes GREAT REKKIDS ,timing, and programming to get them in a frenzy! DJs recognize these improvements over last 10 years, subconsciously the audience may, but i honestly believe most clubbers dont hear/care about soem of the finer points - hence me using Judge Jules, Oakey etc as my examples...

hate it or not these guys are WORSHIPPED, and they wouldnt claim they were the best mixers in world... and if our 30 friends were better and thats all that counted, how come they're back to work next day and the DJ's back to the studio or continuing the tour??

2) Re: education - i agree the main job of the DJ is education.. but i listen to radio,TV,CDs, read magazines, etc etc to find out about NEW MUSIC, not mixing primarily... then they can educate on what a great mix can do to add to that experience..... but its all relative... i agree on the "mix on the last 16 bars with the 1st 16 bars" crap - see it too many times.... but i also frickin HATE it when someone does a 2 minute inappropriate mashup that ruins a great finale to a tune... one way i think a DJ can be of service is to grab a rekkid and play the best bit..... that may be 1 min , may be the whole tune...

BUT i think we WISH for the day when most people in clubs are caring that much.. maybe in portland the % is higher, i dunno.... i doubt it... they are just there to have a great time..... I probably know more people who dont go to clubs than do go.. they dont go here much because they "dont like the music, its hard to dance to, the clubs arent nice,etc" these are folks from all over the US and the world... but a lot of them buy Global Underground CDs, loads of the "hit" electronica and chill stuff, Fatboy, etc... but i still havent heard - "i only go because teh mixing is awesome"

[ i cant remember the guys name but he was one of the legends of house/disco/clubs - was in NYC in the 70s.. HIS mixing style was clear for several years.....

a) only choose records that were good enough to be played start to end... if there were dodgy bits, dont play it

b) start record at beginning, play to end

c) repeat!

ok, extreme example, but.......hee hee hee.. ]

3) I agree with you on the difference a great DJ can make... when u see a Tom Middleton or a Danny T, or a SLAM, who not only use good reckords, good mixing, good taste, but use NEW SOUNDS and textures and feelings, it doesnt matter HOW many DJs you've seen, it'll blow your mind, and buckle your legs.....

Lastly, yep props to Ohm for there work... keep it up!

so no great "truth" here, just opinion.. bored at work, but nice to get some articulate feedback from inarticulate ramblings! cheers!

d

ps, started partying '92.. whipersnapper!

Dano
01-21-2003, 03:00 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Roddimus
[B]Sorry to sound like the typical DnB cynic, but Rap's set was lagging on many levels.
First off, to put one's set entirely on a laptop is foolish, and in my opinion, takes away the level of presence and analog beauty vinyl brings to a show.
Final Scratch should be used as a tool, not a total solution. Not only did DJ Rap open herself up to the inevitable technical problems with relying on a computer, but the sound quality definitely suffered as a result.
Some of the MP3s she played through Final Scratch were just AWFUL sound quality wise. The encoding must have been substandard on some of the tracks, because at times the bass was watery, distorted and all around shitty.


Besides Final Scratch, I remember a day when everyone said DJ's would never use CD's yet the CDJ 1000 is on most of the DJ's I am bookings riders now days. Besides, Rap did have some vinyl with her the problem was that since the power cord came out so late in her set she had already played most of the tracks she had on Vinyl via the Final Scratch. I will agree that some of the MP3 files were not as clear as I would have liked. We must also remember though that some of these traveling DJ's are flying 4 to 5 days a week and anything that will cut down on the airport hassle's is worth trying. Besides at least Final Scratch still uses vinyl and turntables as a major part of the performance. Remember the computor just sends a signal to time coded vinyl on the turntables which is how records are made anyway.

corbettfields
01-21-2003, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Dano
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Roddimus
[B]Sorry to sound like the typical DnB cynic, but Rap's set was lagging on many levels.
First off, to put one's set entirely on a laptop is foolish, and in my opinion, takes away the level of presence and analog beauty vinyl brings to a show.
Final Scratch should be used as a tool, not a total solution. Not only did DJ Rap open herself up to the inevitable technical problems with relying on a computer, but the sound quality definitely suffered as a result.
Some of the MP3s she played through Final Scratch were just AWFUL sound quality wise. The encoding must have been substandard on some of the tracks, because at times the bass was watery, distorted and all around shitty.


Besides Final Scratch, I remember a day when everyone said DJ's would never use CD's yet the CDJ 1000 is on most of the DJ's I am bookings riders now days. Besides, Rap did have some vinyl with her the problem was that since the power cord came out so late in her set she had already played most of the tracks she had on Vinyl via the Final Scratch. I will agree that some of the MP3 files were not as clear as I would have liked. We must also remember though that some of these traveling DJ's are flying 4 to 5 days a week and anything that will cut down on the airport hassle's is worth trying. Besides at least Final Scratch still uses vinyl and turntables as a major part of the performance. Remember the computor just sends a signal to time coded vinyl on the turntables which is how records are made anyway.

wtf?? you remember the day they said they would use 45rpm, they were stickin' to 78s!

Dano
01-21-2003, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by corbettfields


wtf?? you remember the day they said they would use 45rpm, they were stickin' to 78s!
I still have some of those 78's and 45's if you are interested Derek.

Jade Bassix
01-21-2003, 04:26 PM
My first time at the Ohm and I had a *great* time! I didn't know what to expect, but I really enjoyed the atmosphere and layout of the venue. Unfortunately I had prior obligations and had to leave at midnight so I only caught about 10 minutes of Rap's set. It was dope to finally meet her in person though and to see final scratch being used live.
Also, it was cool meeting a bunch of new people and seeing my regular favorites (you know who you are!). Thanks to Wikk!d for throwing down some tracks at the last minute, my bro for coming out to see me spin for the first time and an extra special thanks to Dano for giving me the opportunity to spin! :)

Jade

Roddimus
01-21-2003, 05:28 PM
Besides Final Scratch, I remember a day when everyone said DJ's would never use CD's yet the CDJ 1000 is on most of the DJ's I am bookings riders now days. Besides, Rap did have some vinyl with her the problem was that since the power cord came out so late in her set she had already played most of the tracks she had on Vinyl via the Final Scratch. I will agree that some of the MP3 files were not as clear as I would have liked. We must also remember though that some of these traveling DJ's are flying 4 to 5 days a week and anything that will cut down on the airport hassle's is worth trying. Besides at least Final Scratch still uses vinyl and turntables as a major part of the performance. Remember the computor just sends a signal to time coded vinyl on the turntables which is how records are made anyway.
I've got nothing against Final Scratch. In fact, if I had a laptop and the cashola to fork over, I'd probably be using it myself.
But it just seemed like Rap was using Final Scratch as the end-all-be-all for most of her set.
Granted, guys like Richie Hawtin do rely on Final Scratch for their sets as well, but he does much more than two deck song-to-song mixes.
Rap used Final Scracth once or twice to layer some loops and samples over the songs, but for the majority of her set, it was all beatmatch-and-go mixes.
For me, if you're going to incorporate a piece of technology as sophisticated as Final Scratch into your mix, you should be using it to do things you normally wouldn't be able to do with vinyl.
I just didn't see Rap doing that.
But I still had a great time nonetheless, so please don't take offense to my comments as something against your wonderful club.

Lailoni
01-21-2003, 05:55 PM
OMG this arguement is about as played out as the chicken and the egg one. If you had a good time or a decent time...and you did not burst into flames or your ears did not start to bleed over having to listen to music on any specific medium, quit bitching.

I have seen horrible sets on ALL mediums...and soul shaking sets on all of them too. I have also seen the worlds best DJ's have really off nights. If you dont like it, then go home and watch SNL and have a coke and smile and shut the fuck up. What I really think that the issue is, is that we in Oregon are REALLY freaking spoiled, I have said it before and I will say it again....we have THE BEST local DJ's on the planet, and we are just spoiled rotten. So that means that "some" of us feel the need to nit pick EVERYTHING.
okay, just my two cents, shutting up myself now, yummy this Coke is good!!!

corbettfields
01-22-2003, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by Dano

I still have some of those 78's and 45's if you are interested Derek.

oooooooh, basement's never too crowded for anotha slab o black crack!

milgramShock
01-22-2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Lailoni
.......we are just spoiled rotten. So that means that "some" of us feel the need to nit pick EVERYTHING.


word.

WerdUp
01-22-2003, 03:22 PM
I'll just say this again. The night had dope music ALL NIGHT LONG. I don't care about the computer or the quality because I did not listen that closely to all that. I was njoying some of my favorite tracks being played HARD and LOUD.

Dope beats and vibe equal a good time for me.

Maybe I have a lower expectation than some but I danced my littel ass off that night and enjoyed and big name UK DJ for 12 bux. Pretty good if ya ask me.

Peice

diznor
01-22-2003, 07:27 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by corbettfields

[ i cant remember the guys name but he was one of the legends of house/disco/clubs - was in NYC in the 70s.. HIS mixing style was clear for several years.....

a) only choose records that were good enough to be played start to end... if there were dodgy bits, dont play it

b) start record at beginning, play to end

c) repeat!

ok, extreme example, but.......hee hee hee.. ]

Derek, you're talking about David Muncuso, famous for setting up"the loft" in 1970. Not only did he not mix, he would pause in-between records. I'm pretty sure he's still playing too, cause a co-worker went to NYC last year and caught one of his sets.

Also, to adress on other point you raised, a lot of these guys are famous and rich(and don't go back to work the next day) becuase they're good businesspeople. And they were in the right place at the right time. I'd like too see some of these guys come down and rock a club anonymously some time, yaknow average slow week-end night at the club. Wouldn't happen.

theperfectcyn
01-23-2003, 08:39 AM
wasn't sure, but was going to suggest also larry levan?

and thank god for accapella :)

corbettfields
01-23-2003, 09:27 AM
The Loft!! The Loft!!! De Vitt went on and on and on and on about that .... yeah i think he paused for the crowd to appluase! hee hee hee.....

as to your 2nd point, sure people will benefit from timing (especially the vanguard - poor bastards though, that was misery then! they got treated like REAL crap then, before "dj culture" got us/them respect so we owe them that as well!) and if DJing is your career, you'd better be good at the business side (i think most of the ones i mentioned are good in as much as they hired decent agents - Fatboy hooked many of them up with the ex Housemartins managar/agent) -

i think there's a lesson there for all "local" DJs, if they insisted on being more "businesslike" maybe the clubs would stop shafting us? dunno about that but you can dream!

and i bet its easier to play Amnesia @ 3am when its been warmed up by Rui Da Silva and Tiesto! but also, you'd be surprised how open/cosy the big clubs are back over there..... the DJs hang at the bar, walk around... and they do play bars and stuff during week.... not all, but some.... but yeah, we saw Judge Jules in a bar and he played totally inappropriate stuff for a small bar...yuck!

corbettfields
01-23-2003, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by WerdUp
I'll just say this again. The night had dope music ALL NIGHT LONG. I don't care about the computer or the quality because I did not listen that closely to all that. I was njoying some of my favorite tracks being played HARD and LOUD.

Dope beats and vibe equal a good time for me.

Maybe I have a lower expectation than some but I danced my littel ass off that night and enjoyed and big name UK DJ for 12 bux. Pretty good if ya ask me.

Peice

hear hear!

TechnoLust
02-05-2003, 11:56 AM
OMG, I am soooo pissed I missed this!!

:cries:

Dano
02-05-2003, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by TechnoLust
OMG, I am soooo pissed I missed this!!

:cries:
Don't worry DJ Rap had a blast while she was here and will be back to Ohm again.