Is this mere Coincidence?...Sharon Trip to New York Canceled Before Attack

[Effendi]

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According to both a newspaper in Jordan and Beirut television, thousands of Israelis working at the World Trade Center had the day off when the buildings were destroyed.

By American Free Press

Israeli media began mourning the loss of 4,000 Israeli lives in the World Trade Center attack but ceased on learning that only a relatively few showed up, according to Beirut's Al-Manar Tele vision.

"Arab diplomatic sources revealed to the Jor danian al-Watan newspaper that those Israelis remained absent that day based on hints from the Israeli General Security Apparatus, the Shabak, a fact which evoked unannounced suspicions by American officials who wanted to know how the Israeli government learned about the incident before it occurred and the reasons why it refrained from passing on to the U.S. authorities the information it had," the station said.

"Suspicions increased further after the Israeli newspaper Yediot Ahranot revealed that the Shabak had prevented Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon from traveling to New York and particularly to the city's eastern coast," the station said.

According to Lucas Brenowitz, a spokesman at the Israeli Embassy in Washington, one Israeli citizen was confirmed killed in the World Trade Center and three more are still missing. H

http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/Sharon_Trip_to_New_York_Cancel/sharon_trip_to_new_york_cancel.html

God must have been watching out for his man on the ground aerial sharon. I mean since it is conspiritorial subjection that suggests that the israelis had anything to do with 9-11 then it surely must have been god protecting the leader of his people.

Scott!!

[Effendi]

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45652-2003Feb8.html

Sleeping with the Enemy....we shall Never learn!!

Scott!!

[Effendi]

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ISRAEL’S Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has called on the international community to target Iran as soon as the imminent conflict with Iraq is complete.
In an interview with The Times , Mr Sharon insisted that Tehran — one of the “axis of evil” powers identified by President Bush — should be put under pressure “the day after” action against Baghdad ends because of its role as a “centre of world terror”. He also issued his clearest warning yet that Israel would strike back if attacked by Iraqi chemical or biological weapons, no matter how much Washington sought to keep its controversial Middle Eastern ally out of any war in Iraq.

He made clear that western Iraq would be one of the first areas targeted by the US in any invasion, saying that lessons had been learnt from strategic mistakes of the 1991 Gulf War when Iraq successfully fired 39 Scud missiles into Israel.

Mr Sharon, 74, was speaking as he conducted high-level negotiations to keep his Government afloat after the desertion of his centrist coalition partners. Last night he survived three no-confidence votes, giving him more time to forge a coalition with small right-wing parties. He rejected calls for early elections.

The Knesset also approved the appointment of Shaul Mofaz, the hawkish former Israeli Army chief, as Defence Minister.

But even as the Knesset voted, a Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up inside a shopping centre in central Israel, killing at least one other person and injuring 20.

In other significant changes of tone and policy, Mr Sharon told The Times that:


Yassir Arafat, the Palestinian leader, could have an ongoing role as a “symbol”, but could not have a role overseeing financial or security functions. This was a departure from previous statements that Mr Arafat was entirely “irrelevant”.

Mr Sharon himself would continue to lead the country, elections willing, for up to five years. There had been widespread speculation that he would retire within two years.

The Israeli Government is considering an unprecedented crackdown on the Islamic movement within its own borders, fearing that a “small minority” of Israeli Arabs are turning against the country.
He asserted that while Washington was inevitably focusing on Saddam Hussein — whom he called “insane” — the White House shared his concern that Iran was also seeking weapons of mass destruction, and developing missiles capable of striking Israel and even Europe.

“I talked about these things with Vladimir Putin a few days ago and I have been to Washington and one of the things I talked about was what will be (sic) later, if Iraq is going to be disarmed.

“One of the things I mentioned is that the free world should take all the necessary steps to prevent irresponsible countries from having weapons of mass destruction: Iran, Iraq of course, and Libya is working on a nuclear weapon.”
He accused Tehran of sponsoring the Lebanese Shia militia, Hezbollah, which he claimed had up to 10,000 short-range missiles stationed in Lebanon ready to strike Israeli towns, of smuggling weapons to the Palestinian Authority, and of trying to turn Israel’s one million Arab citizens against the Jewish state. “Iran is a centre of world terror and Iran makes every effort to possess weapons of mass destruction on the one hand and ballistic missiles,” he said. “That is a danger to the Middle East, to Israel and a danger to Europe.

“They are working now on a ballistic missile of 1,300km. They have almost reached this range already. They were talking in the past about 2,500km and even 5,000km.”

Mr Sharon made it abundantly clear that he would not hold back from retaliating, as Israel did at Washington’s behest in 1991, if his nation came under serious attack. “First, we understand the sensitivity. We are living here, we were born here. Israel will make every effort not to interfere,” he said.

But he warned: “If Israel, and I made it very clear, is attacked by weapons of mass destruction . . . Israel will react. Is it clear? I believe that they understand that Israel will not be able not to defend itself.”

Mr Sharon reiterated that he was willing to work toward the eventual creation of a Palestinian state, but demanded that progress toward it be measured by concrete improvements in security on the ground

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-469972,00.html


Again I ask you, why am I constantly called a "Conspiritorial Liar" when I suggest that israel is NOT our friend, and is only interested in seeing us destroy our Enemies?

What is it going to take for some of you to recognize and admit that the United States is being led by the nose by israel to kill it's enemies with your money?

Scott!!

[Effendi]

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Israeli dailies urge America to launch war against Saddam
With most estimates that an American attack on Iraq is now no more than weeks away, Israeli newspapers devote much of their news space to Israel’s preparations for the anticipated war in the Gulf.
In an interview with the Tel Aviv daily Yediot Ahronot, Chief of Staff Moshe (Bougie) Yaalon says Israel has the capacity to strike back hard if attacked by Iraq, adding that he believes the American invasion
will cause an “earthquake” in the
Middle East.
Maariv says the assessment is that the US will attack sooner rather than later, and that the Israel Air Force will be on red alert from next week.
The paper also quotes Major-General Amos Gilead, the coordinator of government activities in the Palestinian territories, as saying “dormant terrorist cells” are awaiting orders from Baghdad.................

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/opinion/08_02_03_g.htm


WHO is orchestrating all of this Violence?

Scott!!

[seattle science]

Thanks for yet another one of your always enlightening, factual threads Effendi. You never cease to give us the straight truth, and still these right wing wackos still give you shit. But as far as I'm concerned, they can all go straight to hell. Keep the Jewish conspiracy theories coming mate. Kudos!

[Effendi]

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Jerusalem, Feb. 9. (UNI): Israel recently held a rare meeting with Iranians and former Iraqi military commanders to discuss the upcoming Iraqi war, Army Radio reports.

According to the report, the meetings were held at a conference convened in Greece several weeks ago.

In addition to the Iraq crisis, the session, also attended by representatives from Persian Gulf states and North Africa, touched on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and general Middle East economic issues, the report added.

It was reportedly organised by a university based in Los Angeles.

The report did not divulge the names of any of the participants at what appears to have been an academic gathering.

Israeli officials, reports Jerusalem Post, billed the forum as significant as it provided a venue for rare contacts between Israelis and representatives from countries with which the Jewish State lacks diplomatic ties.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/03092014.htm


WHAT the fuck is going on here?
I am getting sick and fucking tired of MY COUNTRY the UNITED STATES of AMERICA getting duped by other countries with only their own interest in mind!!

No More American Money!! (To ANY of them)
No More American Lives!!

Scott!!

[Effendi]

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1297.htm


Now WHY would the israelis go through so much trouble to create phony Al-Quada cells?

I suppose it is much harder to justify any military action without a clear and presently active enemy.

Scott!!

[Roddimus]

Originally posted by Effendi

No More American Money!! (To ANY of them)

I can agree with you there.
I'm tired of my tax dollars being wasted on either side of this bullshit conflict.

[seattle science]

Don't give funds to Israel? I agree. Israel's military is already strong enough to prevent the Arabs from 'pushing them into the sea,' I couldn't care less if we cut them off now. Israel will never be conquered, no matter how many Israeli's are blown to pieces with Palestinian nail bombs.

[Ice Man]

When in doubt blame the Jews!

[Ice Man]

Originally posted by Effendi
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Jerusalem, Feb. 9. (UNI): Israel recently held a rare meeting with Iranians and former Iraqi military commanders to discuss the upcoming Iraqi war, Army Radio reports.

According to the report, the meetings were held at a conference convened in Greece several weeks ago.

In addition to the Iraq crisis, the session, also attended by representatives from Persian Gulf states and North Africa, touched on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and general Middle East economic issues, the report added.

It was reportedly organised by a university based in Los Angeles.

The report did not divulge the names of any of the participants at what appears to have been an academic gathering.

Israeli officials, reports Jerusalem Post, billed the forum as significant as it provided a venue for rare contacts between Israelis and representatives from countries with which the Jewish State lacks diplomatic ties.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/03092014.htm


WHAT the fuck is going on here?
I am getting sick and fucking tired of MY COUNTRY the UNITED STATES of AMERICA getting duped by other countries with only their own interest in mind!!

No More American Money!! (To ANY of them)
No More American Lives!!

Scott!!

What the hell is up with that subject line on this post? Give the USA your oil and Israel will stop the war? Where the fuck in the link does it say that? Spreading disinformation is not what you need to be doing. Stick to the facts as you usually do.

[Effendi]

Originally posted by Ice Man
When in doubt blame the Jews!
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I'm Not falsly "BLAMING" anyone!!

Get "Hooked on Phonics" learn to read, and then judge the facts for yourself.....if you are capable.

Scott!!

[Effendi]

Originally posted by Ice Man

What the hell is up with that subject line on this post? Give the USA your oil and Israel will stop the war? Where the fuck in the link does it say that?

It doesn't. I was just guessing as to what they might have been discussing?

I'm sure they were just talking about vaction properties on the Caspian.

Spreading disinformation is not what you need to be doing. Stick to the facts as you usually do.

OK Fair enough, but I ask you, if our President Bush has declared Iran as an "Axis of Evil", and israel is our Ally, then why are they having secret meetings?...Just a question....call me paranoid, but it's OUR Tax Dollars!!

Scott!!

[Effendi]

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Saudis Plan to End U.S. Presence

WASHINGTON, Feb. 8 — Saudi Arabia's leaders have made far-reaching decisions to prepare for an era of military disengagement from the United States, to enact what Saudi officials call the first significant democratic reforms at home, and to rein in the conservative clergy that has shared power in the kingdom.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/09/international/middleeast/09SAUD.html?ex=1045371600&en=a2ba1984a9ffc58f&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE


Hmmmm, So I guess israel really is our last and only true friend over there, Thank God israel has our best interest in mind!!

Scott!!

[Effendi]

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New intelligence reports that point to the possibility of multiple, imminent attacks by Al Qaeda against Jewish groups and Jewish-owned businesses in the U.S.

Feb. 7 — The Bush administration raised the national threat alert from “yellow” to “orange” Friday after receiving new intelligence reports that pointed to the possibility of multiple imminent attacks by Al Qaeda against Jewish groups and Jewish-owned businesses inside the United States, NEWSWEEK has learned..........................

http://www.msnbc.com/news/870219.asp?cp1=1


But yea....maybe it's just me looking for someone to blame my own problems on rather than face the truth that we Americans have so many world Enemies......

Scott!!

[Justin]

Originally posted by Effendi
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According to both a newspaper in Jordan and Beirut television, thousands of Israelis working at the World Trade Center had the day off when the buildings were destroyed.

By American Free Press



That report has been debunked so many times it's funny. Surprising though. I mean, the Beruit news would never make something up just to blame jews for something, would they? Must have been a typo.

[LordWoon]

Again I ask you, why am I constantly called a "Conspiritorial Liar" when I suggest that israel is NOT our friend, and is only interested in seeing us destroy our Enemies?

What is it going to take for some of you to recognize and admit that the United States is being led by the nose by israel to kill it's enemies with your money?

So wait, are we going to war over the oil, or are we going to war because the Jews are manipulating our government? Is Bush the evil doer, or is Sharon?

[Justin]

Even more confusing: if TEH JEWS organized the whole thing, why didn't they frame Palestinians instead of Saudis? It sure would have worked better for them.

Also: Wouldn't Sharon in New York be better? Then he could make a bunch of speeches. This whole conspiracy seems wildly inneffective. I mean, the can't even get their leaders in the right places or frame the right people.

IT STILL MAKES MORE SENSE THAN A BUNCH OF RELIGIOUS FANATICS THOUGH ESPECIALLY ONES WHO TOOK CREDIT FOR IT *HUURRGG* *BLUURGGG* *CHOKE*

[Mike S]

Scott.

Seek professional help.

Please.

Mike

[tallcan]

Originally posted by Roddimus
I'm tired of my tax dollars being wasted on either side of this bullshit conflict.

it's easy then. move out of the country. that's what i plan to do.

and scott, that's not the only thing that was "coincidentally" cancelled just before that happened.

[D-d0g]

Originally posted by LordWoon


So wait, are we going to war over the oil, or are we going to war because the Jews are manipulating our government? Is Bush the evil doer, or is Sharon?

Both, on both counts.

Vociferously opposing the policies of the current Israeli government (an of fundamentalist Zionism in general) is NOT anti-Jewsh. It's funny to see these rabid rightie wingnuts accusing anyone who opposes Sharon of just that. . . yeah, we all know that fundamentalist Christians are such strong supporters of the Jewish people :rolleyes:

Peace,

D-d0g

[seattle science]

Maybe I'm way off, but if you celebrate suicide bombings that kill innocent Israelis, and blame everything under the sun on a Jewish conspiracy, ya might just fall into the category of an anti-Semite.

[Effendi]

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I get a few PM's and E-mail's everyday thanking me for pointing out the "Other Side". A lot of folks don't want to post their approval because they don't feel like getting torn up by you right wing nutz.

But it's all good because I'm too old to care about all the names you call me, and you can't kick My ass, so I don't mind taking the heat.

Professional help........PLEASE................

Tell me what kind of help could possibly close my mind so that (like you) I believed bushie.

Scott!!


PS. Hey SS, I thought I showed you that all jews and Arabs alike are SEMITE....I'm Persian myself, so does that make me hate myself?

You may NOT have the word SEMITE only apply to your own blood, I don't care what the rest of the world has been indoctrinated to by zionists.

I am Anti-Zionist, Not Anti-Semite, Is it possible to get that through your thick Semite head? If not, I'd be glad to put on a steel toe boot and kick you in your brass balls!!

Scott!!

[Mike S]

Shiiiiiit Scott your minds closed tighter than a nuns...

well you get my drift.;)

and spare ME the too old shit. Besides.. people like you and I dont get old.. we just get worse.

hehehehe

MS

[seattle science]

Effendi, take your fucking medicine and sit down you fucking bugchaser. Let's talk reality here, ok? You celebrate the deaths of innocent Jewish children, and your justification for killing them is that these inncoent kids live in Israel. lol
Anyways kid, I think that we all know what I mean when I say anti-Semite. I mean Jew-hater, which most people tend to believe "anti-semite" means, regardless of your Jew-hating hairsplitting. You laugh and promote the death of innocent Jews ("it appears to be boom biddy bye time!"), and then proceed to blame them for everything that happens on the face of the earth. You and all your terrorist friends are fighting a lost cause, for you will never annihilate Israel, so go ahead and stop blowing up their children and thus Israel won't be forced to respond. Only if you guys wanted your own state, and not the destruction of Israel.. it would make things a tad bit easier. I do feel sorry for you though, that you will never see every last Israeli be blown to pieces, but that is just the unfortunate situation you find yourself in. Good luck with that whole intifada thing though, even though, like I said, it is sadly a lost cause.

Btw, I've already said quite a few times that I am not Jewish, I'm just not very big on terrorism. All of your deranged references to my blood and whatever, is just a bit on the psychotic side. Seriously, it probably doesn't do you any favors to weird-out all of these kids with that kinda shit. You'd wan't them to think you to be remotely sane, I assume.

[Effendi]

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http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2003_04/fulltext/hr50.htm

[Mike S]

Whats the matter Scotty.. Pissed the citizens of Georgia aren't so warped as to pass a resolution supporting Hamas?


I could just see it now..

...whereas the people of Georgia, in solidarity with Hamas, the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade and the Arab terrorists calling themselves Palestinians led by Yasser Arrafat as well as their comrades in arms.. Al Queda.. Do believe that tis noble to indoctrinate the youth, fill their minds with hatred and encourage them to explode themselves in malls, pizza parlors and busses so as to kill as many of those filthy Jews as possible. God willing.


Don't worry Scott.
If you ask nicely the democrats might put that in their platform for ya....ya might have to take out the word "God" though.



MS

[D-d0g]

Originally posted by seattle science
Effendi, take your fucking medicine and sit down you fucking bugchaser. Let's talk reality here, ok?

Hoooo. . . I love it when someone ranting about perceived (but nonexistent) anti-Jewish statements does so by - BA BING - using anti-gay language.

Seriously, SS, you and your buddy Mikey realy are the gold medalists in hypocrisy. The best part is that you are so fucking clueless as to be unable to even hide it in your posts. I can see how you get so fucking pissed at those of us with what we call "internally logically consistent" thought patterns. It must hurt your little brains to see that such a thing is possible.

Peace,

D-d0g

[seattle science]

Originally posted by Effendi


Whiney fucking Jews, who should and eventually will end up right back where they have always been in History, Before and After they Killed their own King Jesus Christ......Enslaved...begging scraps of food from the dogs.

[Effendi]

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Yea I know, could be more Conspiricy EXCEPT this comes from an israeli newspaper.....

JERUSALEM -- Israel and Washington have reached a secret agreement on conditions for ousting Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat after the U.S. topples Saddam Hussein in Iraq, a leading Israeli newspaper reported Sunday..........

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/021003/new_1316824.shtml

[ZupanGOD]

http://www.intellectualactivist.com/cgi-upload/news/news_article/ComradesInHateB1.jpg

[seattle science]

I didn't mean to put a gag-order on this thread by posting some of Effendi's gospel. It's just reality, don't run from it.

[ZupanGOD]

Originally posted by seattle science
I didn't mean to put a gag-order on this thread by posting some of Effendi's gospel. It's just reality, don't run from it.

Run! :)

[StarPhox]

Originally posted by Effendi
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"Suspicions increased further after the Israeli newspaper Yediot Ahranot revealed that the Shabak had prevented Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon from traveling to New York and particularly to the city's eastern coast," the station said.


I'd like to point out that in the wake of Sept. 11th many of our own intelligence sources admitted they had evidence suggesting an attack was imminent. They simply decided not to act on it.

Given the thorough nature of Israel's intelligence agencies and it's past experience with terrorist attacks it very well may have had the same information we did and simply acted on it differently.

[Effendi]

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It is likely that they had even BETTER information than we did and definetly acted differently on it than we did.

Of course the attack was very beneficial to the zionist state as it made the last superpower in the world go after their enemies.

Scott!!

[Effendi]

Originally posted by StarPhox

Given the thorough nature of Israel's intelligence agencies .......
Hmmm now that you mention them....:

Israelis warned U.S. of al Qaida "misinformation" campaign

Israeli intelligence professionals warned the United States that Osama bin Laden's al Qaida network lacked sufficient resources to mount a 9-11 type large-scale attack on American targets but would instead use misinformation to keep intelligence agencies guessing just when and where the next attack would come. A report given to the Central Intelligence Agency by Mossad, Israel’s highly-regarded intelligence agency, concluded ........................
(rest of article)
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_1780.shtml

Apparently this is why we have been on level orange for the past week.

Scott!!

[StarPhox]

You mean I bought all that plastic sheeting and duct tape for nothing? :rolleyes:

[Effendi]

Originally posted by StarPhox
You mean I bought all that duct tape for nothing? :rolleyes:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/DuctTape.jpg