Sharon tried for war crimes?

[ZupanGOD]

Scott I thought this article would be of interest to you.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/02/13/MN95975.DTL

[StarPhox]

I don't see any reason why you didn't post the full text.



The Hague, Netherlands -- Belgium's highest court said Wednesday that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel could be tried for war crimes under the nation's laws, but not as long as he enjoys the immunity of his office.

The ruling, while blocking the case against Sharon, did allow a Belgian court to hear the case against Sharon's co-defendant, Amos Yaron, the former Israeli Army chief of staff.

In its summary, the high court said investigations and a trial could proceed even if a suspect was not physically present in Belgium. Several cases involving foreign leaders, past and present, had been on hold for almost a year, pending the high court's decision.

The case against Sharon and Yaron dates back to 2001, when survivors of the 1982 massacres at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Beirut filed a criminal complaint, holding the two Israelis responsible for the deaths of their relatives. Christian militias, backed by Israel, did the killing, but an Israeli commission of inquiry in 1983 concluded that Sharon, then the defense minister, had a personal responsibility for the events.

By filing their case in Belgium, the survivors hoped to make use of the country's 1993 law that allows the courts "universal jurisdiction" over crimes against humanity or war crimes anywhere.

Many nations have given their courts universal jurisdiction over some crimes. But until now, Belgium's so-called anti-atrocity law went further by barring immunity claims and by allowing the courts to investigate crimes committed anywhere, regardless of the nationality of the victims or the perpetrators.

The high court ruling recognized the immunity of high public office. But the judges implied that the case against Sharon could be pursued after he left office, lawyers said.

The Israeli case is one of many pending in Belgium involving charges of grave human rights violations. Lawyers handling the cases said they were elated with the ruling, because it overturned a decision last year in a lower court that held that an accused person had to be present in Belgium to be investigated.

"This was a big breakthrough, a big step forward," said Georges-Henri Beauthier, a human rights lawyer, who added that he can now continue pursuing the case against Hissene Habre, the former ruler of Chad, who lives in exile in Senegal.



This seems rather interesting but wholly pointless. Belgium has no jurisdiction over Israel. It would take a mutli-national tribunal to actually enforce any sort of punishment.

[TeknoAXE]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, even though the maps show separating borders between Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza strip, those territories are still considered part of Israel as captured lands from Jordan. If that's the case, technically, you can't charge anyone of war-crimes, seeing as how this is an internal problem that's dealing with terrorism.

AXE

[Effendi]

Originally posted by StarPhox
It would take a mutli-national tribunal to actually enforce any sort of punishment.

Wrong!!
One Hero and a bullet would clear up the issue.
It's coming very soon, mark my word, he who lives by the sword dies by the sword and he has killed way to many people over the years to do anything but die a slow painful death!!

Scott!!

[TeknoAXE]

Originally posted by Effendi

Your definetly WRONG!!
These parts of PALESTINE are only "recognized" as parts of israel by the invading zionist forces and their bitches, (the bush administration)


Oh, you mean the invasion force that resulted from the 6 day war that Israel's enemies initiated?

You fuckwads keep talking about "captured territories" as though it was some fair fight the Arabs lost.
The Zionists were Armed by America!!


And the nations of arabia weren't supplied by any outside country? We haven't sold weapons to Saudia Arabia or the like? Weapons programs have gone on ever since the cold war began.

OK, well technically he is much more deservant of a bullet between the eyes for all of the murders he has PERSONALLY committed over the years, But I would settle for cutting his throat with a butter knife......nice and slow so I could see his eyes pop out as he gagged on his rolls of pig fat!!

And that's the emotional side that skews your judgement and reason there.


Scott!! ( a little pissed at your continued blind idiocy)


AXE (A little amused at your continued backwardness)

[TeknoAXE]

Heh..tried to edit your post once again, eh Effendi? It's a good thing I caught your post when I did.

AXE

[Effendi]

Originally posted by -.DisTorTioN.-

Oh, you mean the invasion force that resulted from the 6 day war that Israel's enemies initiated?

How do you "Initiate" the defense of your homeland from Invading zionist forces?

And the nations of arabia weren't supplied by any outside country? We haven't sold weapons to Saudia Arabia or the like?

More living up to your name Axe...Distortion.
What the Fuck has Saudi got to do with it?

They are No friend of the US, or the Palestinians Or the jews!!

Weapons programs have gone on ever since the cold war began.

Is that what you call stealing someone else land?

And that's the emotional side that skews your judgement and reason there.

Yea it's called JUSTICE!!

AXE (A little amused at your continued backwardness)
Really irritated at your continued display of stupidity!!

[TeknoAXE]

Originally posted by Effendi

How do you "Initiate" the defense of your homeland from Invading zionist forces?


You don't. This is the way the six day war went. Israel got attacked. Israel kicked the crap out of their attackers. It's simple as that.


More living up to your name Axe...Distortion.
What the Fuck has Saudi got to do with it?

They are No friend of the US, or the Palestinians Or the jews!!

Is that what you call stealing someone else land?


If I understand your first post correctly, the loss of Palestinian land due to the six day war was the loss of the entire Arabian peninsula. But if that's what you meant, then you have no ground to stand on, because we do protect Arabian countries and we do sell arms to Arabian countries, much in the same way Russia sells its own arms to countries and supports the countries they deem worthy of their support.

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Really irritated at your continued display of stupidity!!

Here's an interesting thought. Palestine could have had their own country two years ago. But they refused. But if they actually took the offer, I wonder how good they would have done. Not that I've any proof, but the last time Palestine tried to govern themselves in lou of the 1994 agreement, I think Palestine fell flat on its face.

Interesting. I'll have to do some research on that particular aspect.

AXE (thumbing his nose at extremist bullshit)

[StarPhox]

Originally posted by Effendi


Wrong!!
One Hero and a bullet would clear up the issue.
It's coming very soon, mark my word, he who lives by the sword dies by the sword and he has killed way to many people over the years to do anything but die a slow painful death!!

Scott!!

I thought you were against terrorism....?

Edited to Add:

Oh, so you're editing out the part where you were a bloodthirsty hypocrite...right...ok, moving on.