View Full Version : Students forced to write anti war letter.
Mike S
03-10-2003, 03:46 PM
This ranks right up there with the guy that was kicked out of the mall for wearing a peace t-shirt. Loony.
Monday, March 10, 2003
By Scott Norvell
The ever-vigilant Foundation for Individual Rights in Education reports that a professor at Citrus College in Glendora, Calif., forced her students to write anti-war letters to President Bush and penalized their grades when some refused.
Professor Rosalyn Kahn demanded that students in her Speech 106, which is a required course, also write to a state senator expressing the same anti-war sentiments. When several students asked if they could write letters supportive of Bush instead, she told them that would not be acceptable and their grades would suffer if they did so.
"While professor Kahn is free to hold and espouse her views on appropriate matters of public concern, it is, of course, absolutely impermissible for her or any professor to coerce students to share her political orthodoxies. This was an unconscionable abuse of classroom power," said Thor Halvorssen, FIRE's CEO.
Since FIRE's intervention, the college has sanctioned the professor and apologized to the students.
http://www.thefire.org/issues/citrus_prelease.php3
MS
asslicking homophobe
03-10-2003, 03:50 PM
that's pretty messed up.
ChiralTwinz
03-10-2003, 03:50 PM
That's right though, because in college you are required to employ/demonstrate upper-level cognitive/moral capabilities to succeed...
Why do you think I refuse to go back and repeat myself when people take my discussions off on tangents?! I'd rather get to the root of the problem and reason it out to a logical conclusion...keeping my strong backbone, rather than what many people here do...
Grow a backbone...If you're that concerned about your grade, drop the class and take it another quarter...Or change the teacher's opinion...Education is built on philosophy and spiritual teachings that are timeless.
You shouldn't expect everything to be handed to you.....
ChiralTwinz
03-10-2003, 03:53 PM
Or maybe you can just do the assignment and use a form of language that would support your opinion/cause even though you disagree with teh assignment...
A speech class can easily be turned into an exercise in politics or psychology or whatever....
TeknoAXE
03-10-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by ChiralTwinz
Grow a backbone...If you're that concerned about your grade, drop the class and take it another quarter...Or change the teacher's opinion...Education is built on philosophy and spiritual teachings that are timeless.
You shouldn't expect everything to be handed to you.....
Or, if you're in college, just go for a degree in something useful, like engineering or med school or physics.
AXE
186k\sec
03-10-2003, 04:06 PM
fuck school all togther, join the army - and go pound some sandnogs in Iraq. - thats a noble thing..
asslicking homophobe
03-10-2003, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Buttrock_Beethoven
Or, if you're in college, just go for a degree in something useful, like engineering or med school or physics.
AXE
actually i'm an engineering major and i still had to take speech and other useless classes... hell, i still have a couple to go.
Boyd Main
03-10-2003, 04:45 PM
Yip, that's right royally fucked.
What would have been a better assignment would be for pro-war students to have to write an anti-war letter, and anti-war students to have to write a pro-war letter. Of course they wouldn't have to send their letters to anyone, but it would have been a good exercise in mental gymnastics.
texas chainsaw mascara
03-10-2003, 04:52 PM
good lord, what an idiot that teacher is.
wouldn't that seem like common sense not to do something like that? ? ?
Tecknowledgy
03-10-2003, 05:10 PM
It should...but it seems more and more that people are abandoning their common sense and doing the exact opposite.
ChiralTwinz
03-10-2003, 05:15 PM
Maybe he's one of those teachers who are just so damn cocky that they know they will never be out of work, even if they get fired for doing some stupid shit thing that gets him massive media attention....
:rolleyes:
Like doctor gary london...the teacher who gives 70% of his students Fs and rarely a B grade, ever....the communist bastard ;) jp... everyone loves gary, though, even if they won't admit it to themselves
186k\sec
03-10-2003, 05:18 PM
wouldn't that seem like common sense not to do something like that? ?
you would think so, just shows ya I guess.. some people with authority cant help but to abuse thier positions.. remember the story about the substitute teacher who rapped a student in class.? ::sick. .
& as a sidenote,
nevermind my earlier comment here Mike, or whomever, I have much respect for our solidiers - & Iraqi people, so, that was my bad. I appologize if I offended anyone.
Mike S
03-10-2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Boyd Main
Yip, that's right royally fucked.
What would have been a better assignment would be for pro-war students to have to write an anti-war letter, and anti-war students to have to write a pro-war letter. Of course they wouldn't have to send their letters to anyone, but it would have been a good exercise in mental gymnastics.
Boyd that is a bad ass idea. Props.
MS
lady.don't.tek.no
03-10-2003, 06:24 PM
:eek: holy bat barf! what will they think of next!:rolleyes:
Imbue23
03-10-2003, 07:02 PM
craziness
Mike S
03-10-2003, 09:15 PM
Ok so you might be pro war or you might be anti war.. Regardless .. There's one thing (i hope) we can all agree on. The ONLY reason Saddam is pretending to disarm -or- disarming (depending on your point of view) is because Dubyas got the military over there ready open a can of whoopass on Mr Hussein. am I right Here? Can we agree on this?
If so then what are thse f*cking morons thinking...
http://workingforchange.speedera.net/www.workingforchange.com/webgraphics/WFC/billboard_350_3.gif
Courtesy of the usefull idiots/fellow commie travelers over at workingforchange dot com.
Yeah.. these people REALLY got the best interest of the Iraqi people in mind.
Jerkoffs.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/art/editorial/cartoon/2003/450/030903.jpg
Orphic11
03-10-2003, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by ChiralTwinz
in college you are required to employ/demonstrate upper-level cognitive/moral capabilities to succeed...
Grow a backbone...If you're that concerned about your grade, drop the class and take it another quarter...Or change the teacher's opinion...Education is built on philosophy and spiritual teachings that are timeless.
You shouldn't expect everything to be handed to you.....
wOrd.
The students should have written the letters to show our president that war is not always the answer.
Putting a positive spin on this whole war thing seems like a good idea to me.
Roddimus
03-10-2003, 11:19 PM
Lame.
Authoritarian teachers are really nothing new, be they left or right winged in their actions.
I'm sure we've all had at least one or two nuts for an instructor. I know I've had my fair share of left wing wackos and right wing nuts try their hand at forcing their opinions through their lesson plans.
I'm glad the college took care of the guilty faculty.
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