I have two cents!

[Disco Jesus]

Okay, first off, I'm for the war on Saddam and his regime. Saddam has been allowed to commit genocide and have extremely dangerous weapons for long enough. The UN quite obviously won't make him adhere to their restrictions so now this "Coalition of the Willing" will.

Secondly, in this great nation, we have rights. But like most things, you can abuse a right. Every time I see a beligerant group of protesters, I get so pissed. They devise false reasons for this war, like "Bush just wants oil" and bla bla bla, while totally ignoring the true reason, which with their pacifist logic, they should support; freeing Iraq from the clutches of a veiled dictatorship. These protesters need to quit abusing the privileges we have as Americans to the right to free speech. These people have way too much time on their hands and I personally think that the police should start making arrests for disturbing the peace. I'm really tired of every fuckwad with an anti-Bush sign thinking they're Mahatma fucking Ghandi.

Third, although I am pro-disarmament, I am against the wars on drugs and terrorism. These wars waste billions of American tax dollars every year, and for what? Drugs and terror still exist and they always will. So long as people want them to.

[DJ Rawkus]

Actually genius, drugs and terror exist to prop up our economy by its' saggy Dickies. So you are incorrect when you say that they always will be around. Once people learn that exploitation isn't humane, terror will cease. Drugs won't cease, but their illegal market will indeed.

[Disco Jesus]

Originally posted by DJ Rawkus
Actually genius, drugs and terror exist to prop up our economy by its' saggy Dickies. So you are incorrect when you say that they always will be around. Once people learn that exploitation isn't humane, terror will cease. Drugs won't cease, but their illegal market will indeed.
That was a nice way to miss the point, slick. My point was that people will always have flaws. There won't be some day when everyone says, "Oh, terrorism isn't very nice, let's not do it anymore." And I never said that the illegal market was forever. I said, "Drugs and terror still exist and they always will. So long as people want them to." I was pointing out how the government isn't fighting against a cancer to society, but fighting against the acquisitional side of human nature.

[DJ Rawkus]

Originally posted by Disco Jesus

That was a nice way to miss the point, slick. My point was that people will always have flaws. There won't be some day when everyone says, "Oh, terrorism isn't very nice, let's not do it anymore." [/b While i see your point, i think it all depends on the definition of terrorism. That's a word that's thrown about today all too loosely. [b]And I never said that the illegal market was forever. I said, "Drugs and terror still exist and they always will. So long as people want them to." And i agreed with you. Calm down sparky! I was pointing out how the government isn't fighting against a cancer to society, but fighting against the acquisitional side of human nature. This is an excellent point!! I talked about this just earlier today with someone. As philosophy students, we engaged the subject of how the State might percieve human nature to be an evil unto itself in the context of obsolesence vs.consumption. That is to say, drugs can always be made and people will take them. Pot has been used for thousands of years and so has mescaline. So called designer drugs like coke were used in Mayan villages for everyday purposes. They were part of a heritage.There is no obsolete nature about them. But when produced and sold in a capitalist society where the roles of buyer and seller or more commonly know as consumer/prodcuer are hammered into our heads from day one.. these things are merely items to be afforded and not part of our culture. People may be consuming them not solely for their effects but because they CAN buy them.. just as with all that currency they could buy something else, but choose not to. Therefore, the acquistional nature of man stands, but in a different light. This delves a little into the world of psychology but the emotion behind having a first 8 ball or half sack compared with that of a rich yuppie getting his first BMW is probably not much different. The only real difference is the obsolete qualities of the sailboat when compared to that "everlasting" half sack. Now in comes the State saying that only obsolete items can be bought and sold because "drugs are bad mmkay" and of course, the fresh new line "drug users support terrorists". Really what is being fought here is not a drug war, but a war against what we value in this society: STUFF! Yes, a war against nature and a goal to restructure it so that it benefits well...you get the idea. I could venture off into how the State is doing this cuz they feel we can't handle the drugs and ourselves, but i won't. :p SO.. the corresponding drive to attain "stuff" is considered criminal if it passes into any territory deemed illegal by the State. What this does is effectively says, "you may buy as long as everyone gets their piece of the pie, especially the IRS". Yeah. God forbid we have a truly free market! :rolleyes: That might mean selling a fat knugg with your latte at Starbucks!! :D

[Disco Jesus]

It's all about that fine line between use and abuse. And yes, terrorism is used too often today. I remember when I was a kid, I knew about terrorism. I knew about hostages and such. Now all of a sudden people think it just popped up out of nowhere. It's a shame how the ignorance of the majority outweighs the intelligence of the minority.

[DJ Rawkus]

Heh. Word. I remember Tehran as a child...terrorists are nothing new. But i guess every generation has its' buzzwords eh?

[Disco Jesus]

Buzzwords indeed. A little too close to that Newspeak stuff that was in 1984, in my opinion.