freedom is already starting in iraq

[superkool]

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_769073.html


this smacks of....give up your guns, so when we do decide what is going to happen, nobody can do anything about it. i say hold onto your guns

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fuck that! - if were going to liberate them the american way - then we should be giving every man, woman, and child a gun - to defend themselves.... & hunt, of course..

....its time to send in the Charlton Heston..

[seattle science]

We're at war in Iraq, you goddamn idiots. Unless you enjoy having civilians killed because they are mistaken for the enemy, this is called common sense.

"I'm incredibly angry and bitter that the Iraqi people have been liberated, because it means that I was wrong the entire time.. I guess I'll have to come off looking like a moron by trying to paint a picture that Iraqis have actually lost freedom by being liberated from underneath Saddam's thumb."

[TeknoAXE]

Common sense people. Common sense. Marshall Law can be declared in times of emergency in the United States. Wartime conditions would undoubtably qualify as such.

AXE

[Mike S]

Originally posted by Buttrock_Beethoven
Common sense people. Common sense. AXE

Bahahahahahahaha... Oh Axe have you forgotten so soon who it is you addressing here?


Now.. not that I compliment peace activists often.. but here's an example of a man who knows exactly what he's gotta pack to keep da peace..

http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=11550

hehehehe.. I'll bet fat cash that jack ass is no fan of the NRA either.. heh
MS

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you morons dont even see humor anymore..

its all about jumping on the bash wagon - oh, look, somebody is being fasecious - call em a racist, liberal, saddam lover.. yadaa yada yada.a

computer war geeks.

[Hookups]

The true measure of the freedom of the Iraqi people, who we decided in retrospect this war was about, will be what happens to the natural resources of their country. The distribution of wealth which will result from the lifting of sanctions will tell us who got the freedom and who didn't. To be fair, it should probably be set up in trust so that the country isn't looted by multinational corporations. The Economist has an interesting article (http://www.economist.com/business/displayStory.cfm?story_id=1702288) on the subject.

[HexRei]

it's a gun amnesty program, asking them to give up their guns.
how does this in any way infringe upon their freedoms

soldiers are going to assume that any unknown with a gun is a potential combatant, for their own safety. so citizens not running around with guns is better for all involved.

[superkool]

i dont think there would be a problem of civilians running around with guns with a army in town that will shot them....boy you guys really make the iraqi's seem fucking stupid, you think it's not possible to have a gun in your house, you act like they HAVE to carry a gun with them...whats wrong with letting people keep guns?

you say so they wont be running around on the street with them..........lol


man the disrespect of intelligence on your part amaze's me.......do you really believe them to be so stupid or me to be so stupid as to make that a reason to take there guns away?


do you guys evenb know arabs? guns are there life, always has been...i dont think they are going to like this "freedom" we are forceing on them.........


then again, time will tell....lets just see huh...

oh but please dont try to bullshit me saying the village idiots would be running around with there guns, ok...iraq's people happen to be pretty smart.

[HexRei]

Originally posted by superkool
i dont think there would be a problem of civilians running around with guns with a army in town that will shot them....boy you guys really make the iraqi's seem fucking stupid, you think it's not possible to have a gun in your house, you act like they HAVE to carry a gun with them...whats wrong with letting people keep guns?

you say so they wont be running around on the street with them..........lol


man the disrespect of intelligence on your part amaze's me.......do you really believe them to be so stupid or me to be so stupid as to make that a reason to take there guns away?


do you guys evenb know arabs? guns are there life, always has been...i dont think they are going to like this "freedom" we are forceing on them.........


then again, time will tell....lets just see huh...

oh but please dont try to bullshit me saying the village idiots would be running around with there guns, ok...iraq's people happen to be pretty smart.

you are the village idiot.
IT IS AN AMNESTY PROGRAM ASKING THEM TO GIVE UP THEIR GUNS. ALL THEY DID WAS DIG A FUCKING PIT AND TELL PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE FREE TO DISPOSE OF THEIR GUNS THERE. NO ONE IS BEING FORCED IN ANY WAY.
Even better, this is a BRITISH program. Not even an american program! :rolleyes:
Did you even read this article before firing up your idiotbox to post here about it?

[superkool]

right, i'm sure we had no say in the program.....lol....franks is in command in case you didn't know.


and again, why are we asking them to give up there guns? could you tell me again why they need to give up there home defense?

[HexRei]

Originally posted by superkool
right, i'm sure we had no say in the program.....lol....franks is in command in case you didn't know.


and again, why are we asking them to give up there guns? could you tell me again why they need to give up there home defense?

They don't need to, they are being offered the opportunity.
Are you against them even having the opportunity?
Perhaps you should start a campaign to send guns to the Iraqis if you're so worried ;)

[superkool]

do you even know anything about arabs,muslims?

the dont want an chance to give away there gun.....why would they, guns are part of there life there..

that be like going to gary indiana and doing the same program....lol


plus i'm sure that if they wanted to get rid of there guns, they could do it on there own...i dont think anyone has to dig a hole for them....they might be able to dig one for themself.

[HexRei]

Originally posted by superkool
do you even know anything about arabs,muslims?

the dont want an chance to give away there gun.....why would they, guns are part of there life there..

that be like going to gary indiana and doing the same program....lol


plus i'm sure that if they wanted to get rid of there guns, they could do it on there own...i dont think anyone has to dig a hole for them....they might be able to dig one for themself.

:rolleyes: First off, not all arabs are gun loving maniacs. My uncle is Iraqi, although raised in america, and he and his father (who was raised in Iraq) are not gun freaks.
Besides, if the arabs choose not to get rid of their guns, fine. Why do you care so much about getting rid of this program? What harm can it possibly do?
or are you just willing to criticize anything the coalition does?

[TeknoAXE]

I know a whole group of Jordanian Palestinians superkool. They aren't gun-totting freaks and many of them scoff at that prejudiced remark. You lose.

AXE

[superkool]

i never said they were gun totting freaks, what i did say is, 99.9% of arabs have guns in there house for defense(not american arabs either.....but thanks for tring to make a stupid point)


just like the people of gary have 99.9% of houses have guns for protection...why start a program like this? it just implys the iraqi's are too dumb to get rid of there guns on there own, if they want to.

[HexRei]

Originally posted by superkool
i never said they were gun totting freaks, what i did say is, 99.9% of arabs have guns in there house for defense(not american arabs either.....but thanks for tring to make a stupid point)


just like the people of gary have 99.9% of houses have guns for protection...

Got any sort of citation, or did you just make those numbers up off the top of your head?



why start a program like this? it just implys the iraqi's are too dumb to get rid of there guns on there own, if they want to.

That's ridiculously farfetched. I seriously doubt any Iraqis are going to have time to be insulted by something like that (even if they were so inclined, which I doubt), they're pretty busy over there.

[superkool]

busy???? oh yeah.......looting does take alot of time huh?

[HexRei]

Originally posted by superkool
busy???? oh yeah.......looting does take alot of time huh?

didn't think you had any proof of those numbers.

[superkool]

Or how he fielded endless, uncomfortable questions, he says, about the Yemeni custom of carrying guns.

"I tried to explain that it's ceremonial," he says, wearing a grin that never fades. "It's, like, our national dress. Like a Michael Jordan T-shirt!"


-----taken from.
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http://www.aaiusa.org/news/must_read01_28c_03.htm


------basically saying that carring guns is a way of life in yemen..lets move on.




In the March 11 New York Times, Neil MacFarquhar notes in passing, "Most Iraqi households own at least one gun." This comes as a shock to those of us who've been hearing for years from the gun lobby that widespread firearms ownership is necessary to prevent the United States from becoming a police state


----taken from.............

http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/message_list.asp?discussionID=232052



sadly i wont be doing all your research for you, but it is a fact, stats say that 50% of american households have weapons..............and we dont even need protection like they do.....you do the math.

[HexRei]

Originally posted by superkool
Or how he fielded endless, uncomfortable questions, he says, about the Yemeni custom of carrying guns.

"I tried to explain that it's ceremonial," he says, wearing a grin that never fades. "It's, like, our national dress. Like a Michael Jordan T-shirt!"


-----taken from.
....

http://www.aaiusa.org/news/must_read01_28c_03.htm


------basically saying that carring guns is a way of life in yemen..lets move on.


Yes, let's unless you're prepared to claim Yemen = Iraq.


In the March 11 New York Times, Neil MacFarquhar notes in passing, "Most Iraqi households own at least one gun." This comes as a shock to those of us who've been hearing for years from the gun lobby that widespread firearms ownership is necessary to prevent the United States from becoming a police state

----taken from.............

http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/message_list.asp?discussionID=232052

sadly i wont be doing all your research for you, but it is a fact, stats say that 50% of american households have weapons..............and we dont even need protection like they do.....you do the math.

I can't verify context at all. After following the three links I needed to get to the NY Times story, even with my free membership, I'm required to pay to view the portion of the article containing the relevant quote.
So I have no way of telling what the context of Mr MacFarquhar's "note in passing" was, or what sources he used.
*shrug*