Looking for EQ Tips

[enfluence]

I am somewhat new to mixing and am having som trouble learning how to work the EQ's. I can do basic things with them, but I am interested in learning some tricks that I could apply to my mixes. Any suggestions??

[crackmonkey]

pretty simple

take headphones off!

listen..

do what sounds good....

[Star_Dancer]

I need to shoot myself. I thought when you said EQ that you meant EverQuest and was all about to "1|\/|P4R7 50|\/|3 1337" to you.

[djowns]

What genre? Each one is a bit different, as with the tracks.

[Sophistik]

Originally posted by Star_Dancer
I need to shoot myself. I thought when you said EQ that you meant EverQuest and was all about to "1|\/|P4R7 50|\/|3 1337" to you.

:p ahhahah :)

[skloot]

Originally posted by crackmonkey
pretty simple

take headphones off!

listen..

do what sounds good.... pretty much, yeah.
play with it, figure it out for yourself. there are very few set-in-stone rules when it comes to eqing, and most of those are genre-specific.

[dj jakub]

Yeah, i agree the key is listening and feeling it out. But once you learn the key is to play with your headphones on. That is the biggest mistake i always see djs make when they play out, is they mix in a record, than they take of thier headphone off cause they want to listen, in the mean time they start trainwrecking, by the time, they put their headies back on and figure out which record is going off, i'm standing puking in the corner. I'd say the biggest thing about EQ is really knowing the records, knowing the keys and such, also try to mix diffrent records diffrently, no one wants you to bring in records and take them out exactly the same way every time.. anyway, my 2cents.

[dj metro]

Originally posted by Star_Dancer
I need to shoot myself. I thought when you said EQ that you meant EverQuest and was all about to "1|\/|P4R7 50|\/|3 1337" to you.

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[enfluence]

Word thanks for the input, I guess is does make sense to kind of just feel it out.
Originally posted by Kranman
pretty much, yeah.
play with it, figure it out for yourself. there are very few set-in-stone rules when it comes to eqing, and most of those are genre-specific.
Well, I have been playing drum and bass. So, what are the basic EQing tips as far as that genre goes??

[Star_Dancer]

Originally posted by dj metro


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[Screw32]

Keep down the bass as to not piss off your neighbors.
But seriously I think it all depends on what mixer you've got.

[Shaman]

sometimes it works for me to cut the top, then the bottom, then bring back the top, then bottom... like 4 steps really quickly in sync with the last 4 "mininotes" before a beat... with the bottom coming in on the beat ... kinda makes a wooshy sound, but the slower you devide up the time the less effect it has... on my crappy Numark mixer anyway.

[JungleSelekta]

digital audio is like this: a gift box. You want to fill the gift box as full as possible without breaking the gift. So if you add some bass to the box, either you need room for it or you need to make room. eq = equalizer = make equal.....

http://www.dnbscene.com/articles/gfx/thebox/box3.gifhttp://www.dnbscene.com/articles/gfx/thebox/box4.gif

highs mids and lows...

lows = sub, bassline, kick drum

mids = melody (the main part, the actual gift, not the wrapping or bow)

highs = high hats, cymbols, bells, beeps, air (often over looked important part of "timbre" and/or sound quality)

digital music is playing with all four dimensions of time and space!

example:

red: subs
purple: snare
dark blue: pad
light blue: bassline
gray: synths
yellow: hats/cymbals
green: kick

a good track:

http://www.dnbscene.com/articles/gfx/thebox/box_eq3.gif

not a good track:

http://www.dnbscene.com/articles/gfx/thebox/box_eq5.gif

[Shaman]

prittey colors!

but seriously... I like the gift box analogy

[burnt]

I use different tricks, depending on what I'm mixing.

basically, like, really basically, there are 4 types of beats mixing that I mix. deep house, breaks, D&B/jungle, and hip hop.

deep house - very, very subtle changes...very slight changes, start your changes before the one, and make the change last for the entire 1, 2, 3, 4 beat count. slowly, gently change, and when the time is right, move the cross fader onto just the new track. quickly lift off the needle off the old rekkid. if you mixed it right, nobody will notice that you have a new track on.

breaks - somewhat subtle, but noticeable, right on the one....slide a little further into the new track, sliiiide, sliiiiiiiide.....then right on the 4, go SNAP! and set all the levels back to where they were 4 beats ago before you started fiddling with your levels. repeat about 32 times, then eventually, just, like, DON'T set your levels back. snap your cross fader over onto the new track, and make a ruffneck scowler face 'cuz your mixes are so ill'n'shit. =)

D&B/jungle - preview your new track for a while....a long while....this shit mixes like butter when its dropped correctly, with the correct pitches, and it is the hardest shit in the world to mix if you're even slightly off. drop in your new track, with the master/gain real soft.....bring it up, while thinking to yourself, "gee, I wonder which particular tone and/or sample on this D&B track is the illest part". is that a high tone? a mid tone? a low tone? - ok, so, wait for the 1-count, wait for the moment to be right, then *BAM*, turn up that particular tone on your new track, snap up the master/gain, and - um, whichever level you crakned up on your new track? compensate for that on your original track, turn that level down the same number of notches. oh, but wait, what's that? your new track is too loud??? yep, usually, so turn the master/gain down a bit......repeat, focusing on tones on your new track until the master/gain is all the way up. then apply the same technique for "fading out" the old track.

hip hop - get hella drunk, and apply a very sloppy version of the D&B mixing techniques. go ahead and be sloppy, you can be a little ahead of the 1-count, a little behind, a little overboard on the levels, it really doesn't matter. just be careful, slight adjustments on the levels *really* fuck the overall beatmatching........pay more attention to your pitch control. also, preview your hip hop tracks the hardest, those fools sometimes spit rhymes after 32 intro beats, sometimes after 3 or 4.......unless you're doing blends with top 40 songs or something, then basically, mix like a house DJ, with real gentle, slight, subtle changes.

these are my tricks. yea, I spend a lot of time worrying about my levels.

[DJ Ice]

= Feeling and Sound =

I feel it is all about the type of genre you are playing. You dont want to mix progressive trance like you would two-step jungle. It just wouldnt sound right... which brings me to my feeling and sound analogy.

When mixing, you have to feel the music, and see the sound...

Too deep? ;)

[StarPhox]

Originally posted by Star_Dancer
I need to shoot myself. I thought when you said EQ that you meant EverQuest and was all about to "1|\/|P4R7 50|\/|3 1337" to you.

Charles....your incredible wit and wisdom leaves me in doubt as to whether I even deserve to exist. Congratulations on making my sig.

[djLefty]

my advice:

learn how to beatmatch first.
learn how to beatmatch second.
learn how to beatmatch third.

use the low end eq.

quadruple learn how to beatmatch.

fuck with eq's to hearts content.

:D

[djsteel]

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Or, make that fit for the 63HC11...

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Put that in your ACCD and smoke it...

as far as the picture with the pretty colors...
It is a good concept...

I just really hope that people don't try to fill out the 14k - 20khz range with that much, or some people will be howling...(especially after 80 dB amplification to the audience)

[JungleSelekta]

those diagrams are standard digital audio. there is no other way.

[djowns]

In DnB and Junge you'll find the bulk of your track in the mids. Therefore, be subtle with your movements here. When mixing two tracks and you want one to take presdence over the other, switch which ones mids are boosted. From there, drop the lows or hi's and kinda go with it... or run the mix long and kill everything but the mids.

Best of luck.

[JungleSelekta]

http://www.dnbscene.com/articles/gfx/thebox/box_eq8.gif
http://www.dnbscene.com/articles/gfx/thebox/box_eq9.gif
http://www.dnbscene.com/articles/gfx/thebox/box_eq10.gif

[enfluence]

Originally posted by TheLiquid1
In DnB and Junge you'll find the bulk of your track in the mids. Therefore, be subtle with your movements here. When mixing two tracks and you want one to take presdence over the other, switch which ones mids are boosted. From there, drop the lows or hi's and kinda go with it... or run the mix long and kill everything but the mids.

Best of luck.

This is where I run in to trouble becuase my mixer only has high and low end EQ's no Mid's. I see what you are saying though, it makes sense. I have just been trying to use my hi's as my mid's, since that is where I find most of the mid sound come from anyway. Any suggestions on using a mixer with just Low and Hi end Freq.??

[L7#1]

THe EQ is the volume of the coresponding frequency. Its a frequency sensitive volume knob. The way I use the EQ is by turning the EQ of both records at the same speed in opposite directions. this will result in more or less a level max volume. Keeping the levels equal is important to ensure the highest quality sound so you dont overload. Pay special attention to dropping EQ more so than raising EQ and you will be less likely to over load.

[snow angel]

Originally posted by djLefty
my advice:

learn how to beatmatch first.
learn how to beatmatch second.
learn how to beatmatch third.

use the low end eq.

quadruple learn how to beatmatch.

fuck with eq's to hearts content.

:D

A-fucking-MEN to that brotha. heheh beatmatching is the very most important thing, after that EQ shit is FUN!

[Roddimus]

zero is my country

[Cuban B]

Originally posted by snow angel


A-fucking-MEN to that brotha. heheh beatmatching is the very most important thing, after that EQ shit is FUN!


You people need to understand that PROGRAMMING is just as important as beatmatching. Beatmatching is the easy part. The biggest problem with DJs in my opinion is that they think that once they beatmatch they've learned enough to play out. THEY ARE DEAD WRONG. PROGRAMMING, PROGRAMMING, PROGRAMMING...without it you're an amateur and to the professionals you look like a fool no matter how well you can beatmatch.

[Cuban B]

Originally posted by enfluence

Any suggestions on using a mixer with just Low and Hi end Freq.??

Buy a new mixer asap.

[Tasty]

^^^ Preach it like it is Cuban B!!!

Programming, Programming, Programming!

Remember as in all types of musical performance - phrasing is just as important as keeping the tempo.

[Cuban B]

Phrasing, programming, whatever you want to call it, learn it, live it, love it. Once you get it down there's nothing stopping you. Tasty knows ;)

[flutter]

Originally posted by Star_Dancer
I need to shoot myself. I thought when you said EQ that you meant EverQuest and was all about to "1|\/|P4R7 50|\/|3 1337" to you.

TO FUNNY

[Sophistik]

.... so thats what those knobs do?

I thought that i was just supposed to mess with them alot to look busy. :confused:











:D

[matytek]

one thing i would like to hear less of:

jacking the highs way up. in the booth it sounds right, on the floor, it really is painfull.

If you keep doing it, the soung guy will realize he cant trust you with his system and just drop the highs from his end, so you cant damage the speakers, or the peoples hearing. Then we get to listen to records with no high end.