Promoter Responsibility

[Tronic]

Is promoting fun? Yes.

Is promoting a lot of work? Yes.

Does booking a DJ mean just sending him/her a PM or e-mail one time asking if they are available and then contacting them on the night of the show with a time-slot?

No.

Promoters: please be responsible and maintain contact with your talent. This is an important part of doing a show.

As a promoter I always keep in close contact with my talent and with other people working with me, continuing to provide them with updated details, flyers, etc.

As a DJ, I have better ways of spending my time than constantly hounding promoters that might have booked me, but never responded back with any additional information, updates, timeslots, flyers, etc.

If talent is not confirmed, they can not be expected to be at an event. If talent can not be expected to be at an event, you may have some upset event-goers who were expecting to see certain DJs.

I don't even want to touch the fact that promoters have put 'headlining' talent on flyers that they didn't even have an intention of booking, that is just a downright scandal, and think it another topic altogether.

I am simply talking about professionalism and courtesy to people you are trying to work with.

just because someone is a 'local' DJ, does not mean they are at your beck and call. Especially if they are willing to donate their time and energy to play for free.

For both parties involved, contracts are always a good idea. Even if the DJ is being compensated simply with guests and concessions, that way it is still clear in writing that the DJ is booked for a show and will play a certain timeslot and receive a certain compensation.

>end rant.

:)

- tronic

[dr_babbit]

word

[PikaKyosei]

CONTRACTS.

[MizDollyB]

Originally posted by PikaKyosei
CONTRACTS.

I can't tell you how many contracts I've sent to people who say "Hey! I wanna book so-and-so!" and a signed copy never comes back. What does that mean? No So-And-So.

[Milithor]

Haha I hate that shit, this fool would sit there and tell me I am booked like the day before for my residency. I would always tell him that I couldn't play unless he gave me more notice, because it reflects really badly on me, when they people interested in hearing me don't know when I am playing, and then in turn it reflects badly when you arn't pulling like you should, because a promoter is stupid. The right thing to do is not show if if they dick around with you. Though each case should be handled differntly.

But any who, I will tell you when you start to get higher up in the ladder and you are dealing with a lot of promoters, fan, promoters ect you ain't going to have that time to hit up a promoter about a night. So promoters, don't fuck the dj's over cause I will tell you most of us know each other and word really does get around.

[Milithor]

Originally posted by MizDollyB


I can't tell you how many contracts I've sent to people who say "Hey! I wanna book so-and-so!" and a signed copy never comes back. What does that mean? No So-And-So.

Oh wait didn't get that question hehe.

[ejd]

VERY nicely said!

[groovinkim]

very true.

in addition to being rude, it's not a smart business decision.

if the dj knows when they're playing, they're probably going to tell all their friends to be there at that time to see them. and some of their friends will be paying admission.

[Cethe]

Originally posted by groovinkim
very true.

in addition to being rude, it's not a smart business decision.

if the dj knows when they're playing, they're probably going to tell all their friends to be there at that time to see them. and some of their friends will be paying admission.

bingo. communication is the key. i'm not perfect, but I try my hardest to communicate often and clearly.

[HooverTechnician]

Very well put! I love the point about the "local djs". So much is taken for granted these days. I used to only serve outside promoters with my contract (5 pages @ 10pt font :) but it's gotten to the point where I want to start giving it to local promoters, too - even some of the ones that I'm close friends with. Nothing's worse than being 2 hours from the start of a party and not knowing your time slot and not being able to contact the promoter. Sure, they get busy while they're putting the final touches on the party but if they had bothered to tie up the loose ends with their talent first, their phone wouldn't be blowing up 2 hours before the party now, would it?
Don't be afraid to delegate some authority to someone you trust. "If you want it done right, do it yourself" is a great addage but if you don't have the time to deal, dedicating a person to do so is the next best thing to doing it yourself. Get someone to call all the DJs 48 hours at least beforehand and let them know what's up - and leaving a message saying "The timeslots are up on NW tekno" doesn't count!

[DJ_Lukki]

Originally posted by HooverTechnician
and leaving a message saying "The timeslots are up on NW tekno" doesn't count!


THANK YOU!

[Advent]

Originally posted by Tronic
For both parties involved, contracts are always a good idea. Even if the DJ is being compensated simply with guests and concessions, that way it is still clear in writing that the DJ is booked for a show and will play a certain timeslot and receive a certain compensation.



I dont get this emphasis on contracts "Even if the DJ is being compensated simply with guests and concessions" are you going to take them to court for what $30? That might be cool if it was people's court but you have to be realistic. If it's not worth your time to go to court then why contracts? Is it so you can bitch to your friends that you signed a contract and they did'nt have you play? hehehe, I only use contracts if it's over $300 with a promoter I don't know or/and if it's out of town. I'm definetly not going to get screwed outside my town. That would suck ass!! It's happened to a few people I know, and no it does'nt sound like fun.

If your a local and playing for free and the promoter is'nt your friend or does'nt have alot of respect then your nothing to him really. Dj's that will play for free are a dime a dozen, hell even cheaper then that! ;) It's your (the dj's) job as a bussinessman to follow up with your client. If it's not worth it for you to do that, then don't play the party.

Until you get a rep in your respected area, working with unknown promoters is going to be a little sketchy. Two can play that game though. You can call and say "if I don't hear back from you at this certain time then i'm not playing". Demand respect, freebie dj's are easy to overlook....

[KlubKid]

Dj's that will play for free are a dime a dozen, hell even cheaper then that!
lmao, thats great!!!

[RNA]

Originally posted by Tronic
Is promoting fun? Yes.

Is promoting a lot of work? Yes.

Does booking a DJ mean just sending him/her a PM or e-mail one time asking if they are available and then contacting them on the night of the show with a time-slot?

No.

Promoters: please be responsible and maintain contact with your talent. This is an important part of doing a show.

As a promoter I always keep in close contact with my talent and with other people working with me, continuing to provide them with updated details, flyers, etc.

As a DJ, I have better ways of spending my time than constantly hounding promoters that might have booked me, but never responded back with any additional information, updates, timeslots, flyers, etc.

If talent is not confirmed, they can not be expected to be at an event. If talent can not be expected to be at an event, you may have some upset event-goers who were expecting to see certain DJs.

I don't even want to touch the fact that promoters have put 'headlining' talent on flyers that they didn't even have an intention of booking, that is just a downright scandal, and think it another topic altogether.

I am simply talking about professionalism and courtesy to people you are trying to work with.

just because someone is a 'local' DJ, does not mean they are at your beck and call. Especially if they are willing to donate their time and energy to play for free.

For both parties involved, contracts are always a good idea. Even if the DJ is being compensated simply with guests and concessions, that way it is still clear in writing that the DJ is booked for a show and will play a certain timeslot and receive a certain compensation.

>end rant.

:)

- tronic

hey nathaniel... wanna play a show for me?

I'll call you a day or two before

see you there.

:)

[SoulKid]

Nicely put.....

[D-Mystik]

Hell even local Dj's don't like to drive all the fuck to the club to play for free (just to get a name started) And get jacked happens a few times at the Uh.... 13th location.

[D-Mystik]

Very nicly said Tronic.
Bye the way I hear you mix some Breaks, I have an NRG/HardTRance CD of yours, Sounds tight we should get togather at my place and Mix it up.
Me and my roommates have 4 MK 1200's.
If instrested PM me. Peace

[DJ Monkey]

Originally posted by HooverTechnician
Don't be afraid to delegate some authority to someone you trust. "If you want it done right, do it yourself"

dude it took me 8 months to finally trust some one else to make lamminates, but you build your trusted crew and I can hand out jobs like lamms, and tallent cordenator, and decorations, so on and so on