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Pandemonium
03-05-2004, 09:36 AM
Does oneone know of a place that offers relatively-affordable one-off vinyl pressing/cutting? I know that when the Vestax VRX-2000 vinyl cutter was being released, there were all sorts of people/places that said they were going to get one and offer single vinyl cutting services, but I can't seem to find any. There's gotta be someone out there with one of these things who would cut me a record for a fee...

Dank Rag
03-05-2004, 10:25 AM
There is a guy in Eugene: Audio Lathe

I don't have his info, but I'm sure someone else will pop up soon with the info for you.

Pandemonium
03-05-2004, 10:04 PM
I did a google and found him.
However, he just does acetate dubplates. His price for them is really good ($35 for a 12"), but I'm really kinda looking for someone that can do a one-off to an actual vinyl rather than a dub, but for that price I might end up just doing it, so long as the quality is good.

Anyone used him? Or does anyone know of someone that'll do a one-off to vinyl, such as with that Vestax thingy?

matytek
03-06-2004, 10:37 AM
getting a one off vinyl cut will be costly. the only alternative is to find someone who has the vestex lathe. try platinum pdx. i heard they had one.

you are looking at spending 200$ at the lowend for getting your mothers cut, and then its usually an additional 150$ to get the plating set up. im not sure you will find anybody who will go through all the hardwork, for any amount of cash, to sell you a record. dubplates seem almost free in comparison.

also, audiolathe... he cuts some of the best dubs ive ever heard. not as good as the exchange/london, but when you figure exchange and shipping,you are saving 150%

make sure you master yr cut, and send him a note, telling him he is the greatest.

Pandemonium
03-06-2004, 11:08 PM
Yeah, that's why I'm not trying to get something plated and pressed. I'm trying to find someone who has one of those vinyl cutters. I guess I'll shoot Platinum PDX an email.

In the meantime, I think I'm gonna get a couple dubs cut by AudioLathe, if you say he does good work. I'm a bit wary since I had a couple dubs cut HORRIBLY by Richard Simpson mastering in Cali. They came out TERRIBLY muffled, and would skip half the time 3/4ths of the way through the tracks.

I swear I'm going to take out a loan and buy one of those Vestax cutters and get trained on it, then set up a glitzy website where people can order one-off vinyl. If I charged the price of a dub, I'd have people lining up for ages. They are so much more durable and permanent than a dub. Heck, you can even scratch them.

eric n
03-07-2004, 01:14 AM
i heard there were only like a few dozen vestax lathes released to the states so they are mad hard to find. i've seen em go on ebay for like 4 to 7 grand tho... keep your eyes out. if you get one i want some dubs made too!

Pandemonium
03-07-2004, 11:35 AM
I think I read something somewhere that if you buy one from Vestax, they require you to take their little training course in how to run the thing. I dunno if that's included in the $10k retail price of the unit. I think that may be part of the reason they are a bit hard to find, though, is that there is quite a bit of effort and training involved.

I wonder what would happen if you cut one of those Vestax Harmodisks on a dubplate/master cutter...? Any cutter should be able to do it, right?

eric n
03-07-2004, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Pandemonium
I wonder what would happen if you cut one of those Vestax Harmodisks on a dubplate/master cutter...? Any cutter should be able to do it, right?

Now THAT is an interesting idea! Can you order the harmodisks from vestax or buy them online anywhere? If so they are cheap enough that it would be worth trying...

check this out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3703015415&category=14986&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1
it's already gone but i watch for these... and sheeeyit i wish i woulda had 3 grand... and apparently it has a training "tape" so the training course must not be absolutely crucial...

Note that the seller says only 3 per year were made in the states. If this is true then there are only like a dozen in the whole USA.

It's surprising that they don't go for more when they do pop up.

Pandemonium
03-07-2004, 06:59 PM
I believe you can order the harmodisks right off Vestax's website. If not there, then other places. They are ~$10 apiece. I've been doing some reading, and found that the harmodisks are actually a lacquer acetate like a normal dub, but they are just a MUCH more durable acetate. As such, I bet they'd really put some wear on a dubplate cutter's heads. I imagine the Vestax unit has a special head designed for them.

For $3000, that's a STEAL. There'd be some serious money to be made with that. I bet you could make it pay for itself inside a year, easily.

patrick currier
03-22-2004, 09:28 PM
my friend Tasha uses audio lathe in Eugene. he has been using him for a few years. i am flying Tasha in to play in tacoma you can come out and listen to the dubs that night, i am sure he will be playing them.....

http://www.nwtekno.org/vb/showthread.php?threadid=68810

djowns
03-22-2004, 09:55 PM
Getting dubplates cut at Audio Lathe is 100% worth it!

A 12" will hold 4 tracks at 33rpm and still maintain very high quality! Despite what people say about dubplates not holding their quality, by the time they wear out the tunes almost as worn out anyways.

If you compare it cost wise to vinyl it's worth it anyways, cause with vinyl you more often than not get one side you'll never play. Your paying $10 a tune that way! If you get a dubplate cut however, of 4 tunes you want, you'll be paying $8.25 a tune! Not only are you paying less, but your getting exclusive tunes!

Besides that, they smell REALLY good!

bliss
04-16-2004, 08:35 AM
"Despite what people say about dubplates not holding their quality, by the time they wear out the tunes almost as worn out anyways."


I saw this and had to comment....

Maybe the tunes that you make are worn out when the dubplate is , but some Producers like to make music that stands the test of time!


I know that I'm listening and playing records that were made in the 80's... so it's a matter of perspective if a song gets worn out....

My 2cents...


Dave

lacquerman
07-11-2005, 05:24 PM
Custom Records www.customrecords.com offer some unique discs including colored jukebox 45s, picture disc records and DJ dubplates that have longer durability than your standard old style acetate dubplates.

dj*ao*
07-12-2005, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by djowns
Getting dubplates cut at Audio Lathe is 100% worth it!

A 12" will hold 4 tracks at 33rpm and still maintain very high quality! Despite what people say about dubplates not holding their quality, by the time they wear out the tunes almost as worn out anyways.

If you compare it cost wise to vinyl it's worth it anyways, cause with vinyl you more often than not get one side you'll never play. Your paying $10 a tune that way! If you get a dubplate cut however, of 4 tunes you want, you'll be paying $8.25 a tune! Not only are you paying less, but your getting exclusive tunes!

Besides that, they smell REALLY good!

Word!
peace
dj*ao*

lacquerman
07-12-2005, 01:18 AM
Allen over at Audio Lathe is good man.

Sidetrak
07-13-2005, 07:46 AM
http://www.vinylcarvers.com

"everlasting" dub plate. Hmmmmmm anyone use these guys?
They're relatively new on the block.

dj*ao*
07-19-2005, 01:39 PM
Havn't heard of anything...
peace
dj*a0*

FUCKINMETAL
07-29-2005, 05:34 PM
what is the difference between viynl and dubplates?

quickster
07-30-2005, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by FUCKINMETAL
what is the difference between viynl and dubplates? gwagagahahahaa, ok

vinyl-is a material in which they make the record with
dubplate-usually an unrealeased track that is only in a few select peoples hands, I guess you could call a one-of a dubplate, most of the uk labels will make about 50 of these and hand them out to the top names of that genre, then the 250-500 promos come out after that, then if the track sell really well then it gets full released in the 1000's for the masses, there a littel bit of info. thats how the dnb scene runs at least, this is what i have been told as well a few days ago by SPL.

FUCKINMETAL
07-30-2005, 12:25 PM
whats the difference? I thought dub plates don't last as long?

quickster
07-30-2005, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by FUCKINMETAL
whats the difference? I thought dub plates don't last as long? dubplates are unreleased tracks, they don't even have to be vinyl
if i was to get this unreleased track by tech itch(god that would be dope) and i played it on a cdj then that is a dubplate, its brand spankin new shit that hasn't been signed. so all your tracks that you made rigth now are dubplates, so when you play out all you are playin is dubplates.

FUCKINMETAL
07-31-2005, 11:24 AM
I am retarded

quickster
07-31-2005, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by FUCKINMETAL
I am retarded no you were now your imformed :D

quickster
07-31-2005, 11:55 AM
k speaking of 1-offs, i would like to know more info from that person earlier who said they could hook it up, pm me with pricing time-frame, where, who , what, whow, yea i want to do it if the price is right. seriously

tr0llaccount
08-01-2005, 09:18 AM
actually a "true" dubplate isn't simply an unreleased track.

it originally referred to short run promos cut on acetate. and yes they do wear out faster.

edit: here's a link http://www.recordpressing.com/newsite/dubplates.html where you can have one cut...

quickster
08-01-2005, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by muzak
actually a "true" dubplate isn't simply an unreleased track.

it originally referred to short run promos cut on acetate. and yes they do wear out faster.

edit: here's a link http://www.recordpressing.com/newsite/dubplates.html where you can have one cut... so what is the pricing on it before i do it.