It's time for a CHANGE

[alien]

We are trying to collaborate with a rock climbing gym to hold events there. The place is just rad, with big ass boulders and a cooshy floor. Lots of room to dance. It is so made for parties. Myself and other Dj's have been spinning there on Fridays, but an event there would just be so groove'n. Gimme some feedback on whether or not you would dig dancing in a gym. Remember, it's a fresh venue and it has all the potential to become a way hot club. Talk to me.

[846destroyer]

iz it on macadem?

[alien]

yes it is. Have you been there?

[846destroyer]

yes i have its the shit how. many people you talkin? im also assuming single room gathering? what king of music have you been spinning there?
i think it would be insanly fun to party there


ez

[alien]

Well I would hope for 100+ people. I'm not expecting the place to be super popular right away. Yes, one room, But the upstairs could have a deck as well (Chill room or 21+ area). Fridays run from 7-11pm, but an event would probably run way later. I have been playing a variey. Mostly DnB, but I usually start with breaks, then DnB, then Trance and House at the end, but it would probably stick as a DnB venue, since that is what the climbing community widely accepts.

[846destroyer]

im really interested i starting a ragga jungle revival in this town. i think kids are way to quick to swallow the same old cookie cutter tech step. there is such bettter and more intellingent music out there. i think a venue like this would be rad because you attract people that are there there for the love of the music and not the pills. what does the space cost?


ez

[alien]

The only thing that has to be paid for is rentals for sound and lights. I don't think they will make us pay to use their joint, mostly cuz they'd be in cahutes with the whole project. The owner is an old promoter. You are totally right about the fact that it will draw a more sober crowd. People will probably climb during events, and we all know what a mistake it would be to let E-tards climb... I also really like the idea of psy-trance events there, but something like that would lose the climbers interest i think. still, it would be tight...

[theperfectcyn]

ask ryan organ about it, he's been part of a couple of dnb nights there on thursdays i believe.

[doodlinggirl]

i do believe that the pdxdnb peeps have already used a rock gym....however i think they used the one on sandy...

it was last year so i cant remember which one it was.....just that it was posted on pdxdnb.



sober crowd would be kewl for a change...actually get to talk to people for a change....

;) :D :eek:

[TeRRA1013]

i think this is a great idea...

[alien]

Well, here's an update. This Friday, there will be another DnB night @ The Circuit, but with a lineup. Myself (DJ Deformaty), DJ Variance, DJ Slowburn, and DJ Princess, but she hadn't gotten back to me yet on whether she's still up for it. It will be a good show, so everyone should show up. The more people that come, the better the shows will be. So come!

[TeRRA1013]

the more people that come, the better the shows will be? hmmm... i look at quality, not quantity. Maybe we are on a different page... or maybe, even a whole other book. I would still like to check this out and see what you have in mind.

[alien]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean it like that. It isn't about how many people that show up, it's the energy of people liking what they here and coming because they want to, not because they were asked to. That energy, to me, is stimulating and helps me perform better. No matter what, our whole goal is to bring great music to the community. But that's really hard when no one's there to hear it. It's still an experiment.

[quickster]

Originally posted by 846destroyer
im really interested i starting a ragga jungle revival in this town. i think kids are way to quick to swallow the same old cookie cutter tech step. there is such bettter and more intellingent music out there. i think a venue like this would be rad because you attract people that are there there for the love of the music and not the pills. what does the space cost?


ez hah i got no beef, so please hear me out, i just think it isfunny when jungleheads call tekstep.... "cookie cutter", it just shows that you don;t see the beauty in it, tekstep/nuerofunk/funturefunk, and amens breaks cuts and edits are totally different in approach, thats the only differance, tek is more of a simpler beat but the layers of syths and melodies are by far, more superior to any amen track i have ever heard, and amen ragga and all that noise is approached witha abstract beat, and alot of other things i just try and appriciate everything in the jungle/dnb world, its cool that your passion is ragga, ragga is the shit, that drummy crazy stuff i listened to for years before delving into other sounds, mostly because, it was only jungle back then, but please dont make it this "jungle against dnb thing", i think thats the #1 reason why alot of ragga djs dont get bookings, cuz its like "jungle against dnb" portland needs more unity not the other way around, just my 2 sense. i would totally support a ragga night in portland but not if all the peeps act like haters. i know ya'll are just tired of it not happening for ya, so lets get this shit started!

-chris

[TeRRA1013]

its a not jungle vs dnb thing, its good music vs CRAP thing.
;)

[846destroyer]

^^ WERD ^^ hey im starting a emostep night wanna cum?

[846destroyer]

Its not that i dont see beauty in simplicity im mean look at dubstep ..some of the most insperational and addictive music ive ever heard also some of the simplest.... but its got heart and soul the tracks seriously come alive. The d'n'b you hear now dayz is in my opinion is lacking that heart and soul.

[quickster]

my point is...
i think you guys should go for this place if its your goal, ill support it too, ill be there rocking out climbin rocks or whatever, and if there is beer, thats even better :)

[TeRRA1013]

Originally posted by 846destroyer
Its not that i dont see beauty in simplicity im mean look at dubstep ..some of the most insperational and addictive music ive ever heard also some of the simplest.... but its got heart and soul the tracks seriously come alive. The d'n'b you hear now dayz is in my opinion is lacking that heart and soul.

what he says is true... there is so much of this dnb right now that all just sounds the same... its boring.. and usually really cheezy. And to much fucking VALVE!! And im not to say that there isnt crappy ragga jungle... because there is, ive heard it. And its not to say that i dont like dnb, cause there is good dnb out there, I just dont hear it played very much. The dnb scene is lacking in beauty, intellegence, heart and soul, and originality. The ragga jungle scene? Well, lets first just get one started.

How did it go last night by the way?

[quickster]

werd terra i totally respect that. jungle was king 1st, it just got generic as well, dnb pioneered after and was obviosly dance friendly more than jungle, jungle however remained more original till bout 2000 when i stopped seeing any change or evolvment of it, honestly its a great sound but i almost feel its stuck, breakcore would be crazy to see as well. anyway, dnb/jungle is dance music, created to cater to peeps in love with it. so in essence, all styles of edm are cookie cutter.

hit me up with any plans and ill spread the word. <3

[TeRRA1013]

every genre of every music has gone generic. This is why I hate gereralizing it. So srew all this jungle is this and dnb is that... im good intelligent music is this, bad unintelligent music is that. My boyfriend and i know this whole world of music out there that nobody does... cause everyone is to busy all being the same.... trying to please the mainstream crowd (more heads, more money right?). We have dug for hours online, moving from link to link, sometimes coming up with nothing, other times hitting a jackpot. Finding music, that no one around here plays at parties.
And to say that ragga jungle isnt dancer friendly, give me a break! My homies who crew with General Malice, and who I partied with at Burningman, certainly have no trouble finding people to come and dance, or MOSH for that matter to there dope ass ALL jungle, oh and HARDCORE/BREAKCORE parties in SoCal. With not even a house or breaks room. Those people know how its done. They are hardcore... its madness. I wont even get started on the UK.
So if you are into catering to ravers and the rave or bar scene then cool, whatever, if thats what the people want someones gonna give it to them. But I cater to myself, and the people that really know... people who dig deeper, look farther. We want to EVOLVE the MUSIC, and just because there are 40 more etards in the dnb room at parties than a year ago, dosnt mean shit.

[alien]

This last Friday was really nice. Everyone really enjoyed the music and you can feel the energy building. Dj Slowburn dropped out cuz he had to work late, but Varience and I had a really good time too. They played metropolis, and some other anime on the Big ass screen. It was rad.

[Outer limits]

bah any genre for more than 2 hours drives me batshit

Im seriously considering buying a nice lighting setup.Maybe will trade a night of free lights for use of the venue for one of my shows.


I think you should just mix it up.


If you want to give anyone who climbs a sobriety test.

If you will be climbing than having a 21 and up area is just as bad of an idea as letting e-tards climb.Maybe worse

[Outer limits]

Originally posted by TeRRA1013
every genre of every music has gone generic. This is why I hate gereralizing it. So srew all this jungle is this and dnb is that... im good intelligent music is this, bad unintelligent music is that. My boyfriend and i know this whole world of music out there that nobody does... cause everyone is to busy all being the same.... trying to please the mainstream crowd (more heads, more money right?). We have dug for hours online, moving from link to link, sometimes coming up with nothing, other times hitting a jackpot. Finding music, that no one around here plays at parties..


please become superstar dj's and play my shows.I need people with that ethic lol.

[alien]

Originally posted by Outer limits

I think you should just mix it up.


If you want to give anyone who climbs a sobriety test.

If you will be climbing than having a 21 and up area is just as bad of an idea as letting e-tards climb.Maybe worse





Indeed, we should mix it up. The thing about people that climb, is that the majority of people there who want to climb are well seasoned climbers and it is their call whether or not to do so intoxixated. As for all of the other people, there are wavers signed at the door, releasing the circuit and it's staff of all willful climbing and it's resulting accidents. If one refuses to sign it, and the rocks aren't draped or roped off, they can be excluded from entering. I'm definately not implying that this place is perfect, let alone the idea, but it should be lot's and lot's of fun. I don't think it would be a problem to have you do an event there, it just needs to be planned, so just PM me about it.

[alien]

Originally posted by Outer limits
please become superstar dj's and play my shows.I need people with that ethic lol.

LOL! agreed