~^*SwEeT GaY/Bi BoIz LiSt~^*

[Hatboi78]

MEOW! hewwo boiz. I was just thinkin about something. Some1 was sayin that there was a shortage of sweet AHEM! single gay boiz in da area. OOPSIES! Bi boiz too * wink wink* hehe Well I want to know who is a sweet single and gay/bi boi. I know there are out there. I am sweet and wuvvy and huggy and snuggily wuggily. meow. So where are the other guys like me? I know you are out there. And 1 very special boi who knows he is. I miss you. Well lets RAWR fer all the sweet and single gay/bi boiz in da area. WE all deserve a big warm fuzzy wuzzy hug.
Quis
aka
CuDdLePiMp

~*Man invented beer, and God invented weed. SO who are you going to trust?*~

[**ButtErfly**]

Hey hatboi this doesn't have anything to do with your post but there is a party in your neck of the woods this Saturday its called mixer I will be there I hope you are there to I had so much fun with you at Neighbours. Let me know if your going and maybe we can hook up. Amber

[**ButtErfly**]

Hey hatboi this doesn't have anything to do with your post but there is a party in your neck of the woods this Saturday its called mixer I will be there I hope you are there to I had so much fun with you at Neighbours. Let me know if your going and maybe we can hook up. Amber

[Hatboi78]

Yo Amber gurl whas shakin mama? I got sat off I am lookn fer a party to go to. But no 1 to go wiff me. :O( but I am down to go. Hey do u know where its goin to be at? Hit me up i will meet u there.

[jeffereff]

HatBoi your the mad hatter (aka Bobby)?

[GroovyGoddess]

Amber - I miss you *cries*

[**ButtErfly**]

Hatboi its going down at the Propeller club on Alexander Ave. E-mail me amber74@hotmail.

Kris you don't miss me as much as I miss you I think you and Sara should come to Mixer with Wes and I let me know wassup you know the number give me a call.

Amber

[Hatboi78]

A Jeff, no I am not bobbby. But I do know a Bobby. If the bobby you know is 22 and goes to PLU then yup I know him.

Amber: sweetness gurl. I will be there. Hey if u want we can kik it earlier b4 we go. I will email you

[jeffereff]

Ahh, nope must be a different Bobby. But o'well. S'all good n'da hood. Have fun if you go to Mixer images/smilies/smile.gif

[Hatboi78]

O h i surely will have sum phun. images/smilies/smile.gif See u kidz sat. if u c me I won't knock yah fer givin me a hug. So wherez da rest of my sweet gay/bi boiz????*taps feet impatiently*

Quis

[DjTeCh]

i am a sweet, single, fuzzy, wanting a boyfriend, bi, really want hatboi, bi boi

so hatboi
wanna meet or what??
i'm going to MorningFall or whatever it is called

i want to go with YOU
images/smilies/smile.gif

god damn it
sorry

happy hardcore turns me on
and i'm listening to it right now
i luv it too much

well
in 2 weeks (on the 17th) can we meet???
at morningfall

PLEASE
*huge hugs*
*kiss on da cheek*
*kiss with tou.....SLAP!!!!!!!*
sorryz
images/smilies/smile.gif

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*smile* @ U ALL!!!
:)

Holy Shit! My Mouse Feels Like Goo!

[Hatboi78]

OMG!!!! DJ!!! You are the sweetest.::givin you big warm chewy gooeu fuzzy wuzzzy hugs:: That was such a post. It touched in in uncharted terrortories. lol, j/k. No but i totally feel you. I loved everything you said. But I got bad news. images/smilies/frown.gif I am goin to St parttys on the 17th. I am goin wiff mah friend casrrie and this guy named joe. I know there will be more partiez. Or hell u can see me out of a party. So me in light and sober *run away! run away!*

Quis

[Rindalyn]

Ohh dear lord
You know
BunnE
and
SpaceBoi
Are sooo ment to be on this list...
they are the SWEETEST boi's I know!

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*water water everywhere lots of drops to drink*

[DjTeCh]

hey HatBoi

i feel u too
hellz yes we can meet after both these parties
wanna ???

PLEASE
so i can give u a nice phat smooch on da cheek

wait
hell with it !!!
smooch on the mouth
or
inside the mouth
images/smilies/smile.gif

i'll probably be bring SOME friends
the thing is
MorningFall is cheeper
well
fuck
i could goto St. Phatties

just give me ALL the info
and i'll go
if i can get a ride (i have 2 weeks to find a ride)

but i REALLY want to meet u
wait
how old r u
ya know....
there IS a statitory law of rape
images/smilies/smile.gif @ U

hehe
bi bi boi

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*smile* @ U ALL!!!
:)

Holy Shit! My Mouse Feels Like Goo!

[Hatboi78]

Rindalyn... I heard of em, seen em on posts, but I am sweeter. so neener neener neener.


Dj boi.... hmmm tell me how old u r. I am 21. So fess up. R u 15 or something? but st patty's is march 17th @ the paramount. 25 presale. I asm not sure on how much at the door. But Dreamland is only 8bucks. And its in someplace b4 seattle. It escapes me thgis moment. I will know when I least expect it. Hit me up on the email dj....hatsRus@hotmail.com. l8r

[EvulSpeakerGurl]

hmm tha sweetest cutest gay boi'z i know are :LALA!!! (aka starfighter and d.j.)
and kricket

he heee just mah 0.2

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*Hugz n Love*
(*^!~Danni~!^*)
http://www.angelfire.com/hi3/candeedanni/index.html AIM:SooprVixin
ICQ:22328618

[DjTeCh]

well

if i had my way with u, u would be facing the statitory law of rape

yes
i'm 15
it sucks
images/smilies/frown.gif

i'm going to go insane
all u fools dance while i go insane
*runs to the corner and starts crying*

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*smile* @ U ALL!!!
:)

Holy Shit! My Mouse Feels Like Goo!

[Hatboi78]

*jaw drops and faints to the floor* hehehe. Well u wont be gettin nu luvin from me hun. images/smilies/frown.gif Sorry, but I am goin to jail to be bubbats bitch. I will still talk to you. I don't care thatyer 15. I just think u r nice to talk to and mess wiff. But 15 does suk ass I bet.

[DjTeCh]

*goes to corner and cryz for hours*

[Hatboi78]

awwwwwwwwww, don't be sad. You are still growing. Look me up in a few years dj. images/smilies/smile.gif *goes to dj and lifts up his chin, KEEP YOUR HEAD UP!* images/smilies/smile.gif Well anal ways...ahh what the fuck! *gives dj a smooch on da lips* NO i am not a pedophile people. He's mah friend. So shush. And for the record the age of consent in Wa is 16. Just to let you people know. As long as the older person is within 5yrs of the ynger person. Just a tab bit of info for all you people.

CuDdLePiMp

[BunnE]

Hatboi78: I heard of em, seen em on posts, but I am sweeter. so neener neener neener.

Ok I tHinK tHaT I hAvE t0 p0sT iN mY oWn DeFenSe. hAvE hEaRd 0f mE, bUt HaVe yA mEt mE? aLL I cAn SaY iS I pRiDe MySeLf iN BeInG a sWeEt BoI! I aM sEaRcHiNg FoR tHaT rIgHt b0i tHaT WiLL aLwAyS bE tHeRe f0r mE, aNd w0nT tAkE mY sWeEtNeSs f0r GrAnTeD! AnD tHe SeArCh g0eS 0n!!!

P*L*U*R

BunnE

[This message has been edited by BunnE (edited 03-08-2000).]

[Hatboi78]

hmm... a yo bunnE we should talk. But first not to be rude or n e thing. But from a previos exp wit some1 * looks n da corner at the mysterious boi* how old r yah? I am 21. U sound like me. We should talk. images/smilies/smile.gif

MArquis

[spangleboy]

Sweet, single, blond, gay & groovy.
MEOW!

[Hatboi78]

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOO NURSE! wOw Spangle is gay, groovy, and blond. YUM! Will you take me home I am potty trained. hehe

[BunnE]

Marquis,

Hey since the board is shutting down you should get ahold of me by one of the options below. I am game for talking. Oh and to answer your question I am 19. I think I also fall under the single, gay, groovin, bleach blond types too. =0)

P*L*U*R

BunnE

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BunnE (Derek)
Email: bunne_pdx@raveworld.net
Web: BunnE's Candy Kid Web (http://bunne.web.com)
ICQ: 2278942
AIM: BunnE PDX

[Hatboi78]

hey bunnE. I just emailed you.

[Hatboi78]

Ok I thought I would cheat and bring MY post back up on top. I just got to say that there are now 2 new additions to mah sweet gay boi list

1. Dj Tech. U make me quiver inside. You always seem to bring a smile to my face when its a images/smilies/frown.gif I lub you lil man. Lets pARTAY LIKE ITTS 1999!

2. BunnE. OMF'nG! I just want to pounce on you and snuggle you to death. OH! Not to mention the franticaklly ripping off of your clothes and beginning to hump you all day. Well they say bunny's are known fer humpin a lot. Lets see how you measure up. lol
No but really I enjoy talkin to espically when I am down. I know you are a true friend to me. I will never ferget that. Lemme know when you get up here to party. U can crash at mah place n e time. My bedroom....I mean couch is always open to you. I lub you too
*still frantically humping you while telling you this* lol


CuDdLePiMp

[Blunder18]

I don't think that there's a shortage of sweet single gay boiz in da area. Well atleast not in Seattle.....

I am all of the above, but gay men disgust me.....

[Hatboi78]

Blunder..disgust you? ummmmm tell me whut about gay guyz disgust you? This I want to know. Wit a statement like

" but gay men disgust me....."

So tell me and the rest of us y u r disgusted??


CuDdLePiMp

[BunnE]

Gee do I feel special. Just added to the Sweet Gay Boiz List (and I guess most humpable list from the sounds of it). LoL

Marquis,

I was planning on coming up to see Oakenfold but I heard its sold out so I guess not. =0( Keep me updated on some good parties and I would love to come up. Also if you ever come down to Oregon you better let me know! I am throwing a party in April and will email ya with the info! TTYL! *hugz*

BunnE


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BunnE (Derek)
Email: bunne_pdx@raveworld.net
Web: BunnE's Candy Kid Web (http://bunne.web.com)
ICQ: 2278942
AIM: BunnE PDX

[Hatboi78]

You should feel special mr BunnaE man. U rawk mah werld. hehehe

CuDdLePiMp

[DjTeCh]

hatboi
i have a better idea
we party like it's 2169
by then
EVERYONE WILL BE GAY
and if u are straight then u would be considered WEIRD and NOT ACCEPTED IN SOCIETY
hheheheehehe
and by then
the human race would be asexual
have both organs and not needing a partner to reproduce
this would keep the human race still in existance while giving them certain UN-NAMED pleasures

hehheeh images/smilies/smile.gif
i thought of The 5th Element there for a second
hehee
I WUB HATBOI and BUNNE !!!!!
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH !!!!!
*HUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUG*
can u read that???
images/smilies/smile.gif

[Hatboi78]

DJ..u r 1 hella weird bi guy. I just gotta see twat yer about in person. hehe. I can jus pic you running around everywhere gettin up in doods faces and smilin fer sum reason. Mayybe i smoked to much crack. lol, j/k. crack is bad mmmmm'kay. Drugs r bad mmmmmm'kay.

[DjTeCh]

i could also picture me running around giving me people smiles and and then laugh and do it all over again

cuz i do it all the time! images/smilies/smile.gif
in skool
at the skatepark
while skateboarding down the street
and other weirder times
hehehehe
images/smilies/smile.gif

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*smile* @ U ALL!!!
:)

ICQ: 13619082
if u send me a message i will send u a message!
then we can be flower power palz!!!
YaY!!

[Hatboi78]

hehe@ Dj.....U r soo funny. I lub it hun. here i got something for you...
*big ole phatty wet smooch* lol images/smilies/smile.gif


OH! there is a new adition to mah sweet gay boi list and the new boi is.....

____________________________________________

[]<3[]<3{} ~*JACOB TRANCE*~ []<3[]<3[]

____________________________________________

[Vicanthria]

Hey there Rava's I am a sweet boi and am also in search of a cute-e-boi..... I so love boi's and am wonder also who is going to go to CrysTal Lake this year? You know ApEx PrOjEct..... Kewl-ness and warm hugz and hugz and kisses to the fly cute bois in the scene.... SeE you boi's in Vancouver someday or in SeAtTlE......
Hello From Bellingham <BoringHam> to All those out ther.......

Laterz.....

jaspian@hotmail.com

anyone interested?

Vicanth

[sothis]

bellingham eh? there are a bunch of partykids up here that go to western images/smilies/smile.gif



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bah.
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8194217
http://www.toons.cs.wwu.edu/johnsok5/partypictures.html
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See what you want to, see entropy's my only master.

[DjTeCh]

THE GOVERNMENT IS AFTER US !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hatboi78]

Jacob...you are soo weird sometimes. hehe

[DjTeCh]

xtc = good
acid = bad

[DjTeCh]

LET THE GROOVE FLOW !!!!
and don't ever smoke shit that your friend made in the bathtub !!!!!

images/smilies/smile.gif

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*smile* @ U ALL!!!
:)

ICQ: 13619082
if u send me a message i will send u a message!
then we can be flower power palz!!!
YaY!!

[Hatboi78]

Theres hella new gay/bi boiz around. WHERE ARE YOU! I just felt the need to revive a old post. images/smilies/smile.gif


OH for the record...I want to add BOY CHRISTE to my list of sweet ga yboiz. DAMN IT WESLEY I LOVE YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART!

CuDdLePiMp

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SMILE-- IT IS THE SECOND BEST
THING YOU DO WITH YOUR MOUTH
- - - - AND CURIOUSITY KILLED
THE CAT THEREFORE NO MORE PussY :)

[Jacob Trance]

Everybody is gay. There's no question about it.

[Hatboi78]

umm..i don't think so jacob....i know some VERY str8 people. images/smilies/frown.gif Hetersosexuality blows!

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SMILE-- IT IS THE SECOND BEST
THING YOU DO WITH YOUR MOUTH
- - - - AND CURIOUSITY KILLED
THE CAT THEREFORE NO MORE PussY :)

[Tweakster]

it was weird reading this post because ur were talking about st phattys and i made a connection to it...since that was my second rave and all and i wasnt on the board then...just thought i'd point that out...and being str8t is kewl...girlz are awsome

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"The greener grass on the other side is probably artificial turf."
AIM - Atomboy293
ICQ - 70463865

[B;-p]

Ok when and where do I sign up no I am not gay but seroisly considering it cuz women
know how to cut right to the bone when they
want to.....ouch some one get me a band-aid
cuz the last one really hurt alot...well
I would say that I have had some experinces
but they have never been comftroble and always felt awkward....kinda like it was being pushed on me.....but I also have had
thoughts once in a blue moon kinda way every
once and a while......hummmm gay-bi-gay-bi
don't know probly cuz her ass is in the way
and her kisses are oh so sweet....but I will
say that men do give a hella lot better head then women....B

[Hatboi78]

Tweaky...yer questioning. lol

B.....hmmmm thats a tough 1. but guys r better at sucky sucky

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SMILE-- IT IS THE SECOND BEST
THING YOU DO WITH YOUR MOUTH
- - - - AND CURIOUSITY KILLED
THE CAT THEREFORE NO MORE PussY :)

[Trinity]

I am officially throwing my name in the hat for the sweetest gay boi award images/smilies/smile.gif Jest ask the people at my work... I'm the resident candy kid who always shares his gummi bears with everyone! Plus, I'm cute and blond and cuddly and jest an all-around adorable boi who, for some strange, cosmic reason, can't find an equally cute, nice boi to call his own images/smilies/frown.gif

ICQ: 37564371

*demented hugz*
Trinity

[KandyRavinFool]

werd hatboi! boys are the best at givin head my god!.... cept ones with braces *ouch*
i'm a little gay hottie... but my boyfriend is on da board so i shouldn't say that much! LOL *if you see this sweetie... i love you!* =o)

[Hatboi78]

ooooooo....yer datin Derek huh? Tell him I said WHATS UP!!

[KandyRavinFool]

yeps! it totally sucks though cuz we live like 2 hours from each other =o( but believe me... a good boy is worth that! and i haven't found a decent one in eugene yet (well... that's of legal age hehehe)

[Hatboi78]

awwwwwwww thats soo cute!!!!

derek is phyne!!!!! u go boi. images/smilies/smile.gif


CuDdLePiMp

[DNE Productions]

Hatboi you got a pic somewhere we can see? I'm not really gay or bi, but I'm just curious to see how cute you are.

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DNE Productions
http://www.dneproductions.com
Check out my latest track, and tell your friends about it! (http://www.mp3.com/damaja)

[Hatboi78]

*giogglezz*

im noy cute. I'm just spunky! I hate my pics online. Best way is to meet me in person. But i do have sum scantily clad pics and party pics of me somewhere. images/smilies/smile.gif


CuDdLePiMp

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SMILE-- IT IS THE SECOND BEST
THING YOU DO WITH YOUR MOUTH
- - - - AND CURIOUSITY KILLED
THE CAT THEREFORE NO MORE PussY :)

[ibide]

Hat Boy-that's a funny signature you've got there.

I just wanted to say that. I am trying to become a 100% vibe. I've bene on this board since early this year, and I'm still a newbie!

How do I get to the next level? Who do I have to blow?

Just a thought.

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:) `~*Isaac*~` :)

[Hatboi78]

hehe.....ME!

blow me, and you'll CUM, up in the world. I guarantee! lol


CuDdLePiMp

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SMILE-- IT IS THE SECOND BEST
THING YOU DO WITH YOUR MOUTH
- - - - AND CURIOUSITY KILLED
THE CAT THEREFORE NO MORE PussY :)

[DNE Productions]

Heh...well, most people don't much like their piccies on the web. Come to think of it, I need to get more...the most recent one I have is from about 3 years ago, and it's kinda lame, except that someone says I look like DJ Phantasy (oldskool jungle/'ardkore DJ/Producer) in it.

http://www.dneproductions.com/me_spin.jpg

I need to spin somewhere so pictures can be taken of me.

But anyway, I'm just curious. Meeting in person isn't really an option, cuz I live in Victoria BC (for the time being, until I get a job in Toronto and can move back there).

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DNE Productions
http://www.dneproductions.com
Check out my latest track, and tell your friends about it! (http://www.mp3.com/damaja)

[Hatboi78]

Ok DNE..you broke me. I'll send u a pic. lol
if u lok too close i cause temp blindness. hehe


CuDdLePiMp

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SMILE-- IT IS THE SECOND BEST
THING YOU DO WITH YOUR MOUTH
- - - - AND CURIOUSITY KILLED
THE CAT THEREFORE NO MORE PussY :)

[DNE Productions]

heh...kewl images/smilies/smile.gif
if ya wanna email, dj_damaja@hotmail.com that's my personal account, the one I signed up for the board with I only really use for NWR and a few other lists.

Or ICQ 18086089

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DNE Productions
http://www.dneproductions.com
Check out my latest track, and tell your friends about it! (http://www.mp3.com/damaja)

[Hatboi78]

ok dne.....

[Hatboi78]

just sent it DNE. if u got 1 i want it. images/smilies/smile.gif

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SMILE-- IT IS THE SECOND BEST
THING YOU DO WITH YOUR MOUTH
- - - - AND CURIOUSITY KILLED
THE CAT THEREFORE NO MORE PussY :)

[sothis]

bump

[CuteRaverBoi24]

okay... i see absolutley nothing on here since last month... what's up.... obviously there was a reason I posted a new topic... new life new virility. and people actually may go to it.....


=(

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Please don't step on the people who are passed out

ICQ=6410099
vicanthria@home.com

[boy christe]

CuteRaverBoi24:

what was this about, now?

me?

images/smilies/wink.gif

love wesley

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-cutie out!

(the peanut butter pirate
& under-cover duck!!!)

*[boy_christe@yahoo.com][-][aim:boychriste][-][tghmh:PinkChik]*

[CuteRaverBoi24]

lol.... I wish it wa about you sweetie but it's more about trying to meet more gay and bi boi's who are involved in the scene... also to hook up with some one for sex and a relationship.....<notices how sex is first>


Peaces, pieces, peeces

D



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Please don't step on the people who are passed out

ICQ=6410099
vicanthria@home.com

pic=
http://facelink.snap.com/vicanthria

[ReD-DoG]

Well shit! I can't let all the other gay bois get in on this and let myself be all sorts of left out. Well I'm sweet/gay/always open to go out and do whatever/were ever/when ever. I am 20 and in PDX.

Peace

Matt

[BurliE Boy]

<~~~ likes boys =o) but i'm swamped with em right now, so i'm not exactly lookin *damn this haircut*

*Brandon*
AIM: BurliE Boy

[Hatboi78]

damn! hehe...NEW boiz on here eh eh eh!

wes...we NEED to have a sit down chit chat and catch up on our happenings.


Red-dog...whas up. tac boi here. But i am makin mah way down to PDX soon.


cuteraver.....I agree and then i disagee.
I would soo write a big ole looong ass reply but my comp is down and i am on limited time. but look out in da VERY NEAR future.

burlie....yer just so got damn cute!!! lol

[CuteRaverBoi24]

What HatBoi? what did I say wrong? *wonders why he's always being picked on?* anyway I was just sayin I would like to meet somebody nice, to be nice to, and do something nice..


*sighs*

p-out

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Please don't step on the people who are passed out

ICQ=6410099
vicanthria@home.com

pic=
http://facelink.snap.com/vicanthria

[lucas]

high-five to p.town gay boys.

[Hatboi78]

hey Raverboi....it was nothing bad about you personally. its gay guys in general ( i feel a attack coming my way after this)


I mean sex is all good. humans fuck. Gay guys fuck. But thats it.....


from MY OWN pers exp if u tryin to start a relationship sex should wait. I mean get to know..hang out everyuthing like that. People shouldn't be like..


John: Hey Mike want to fuck?
Danny: HELL YES! I only know u a lil
bit, but its all good.
John: COOL! LETS FUCK

BOINK BOINK BOINK!

John: Now uhhh i don;t think i am interested in you like that

Danny: WHAT! but we had sex. I thought u wanted a relationship. I thought by havin sex would make us closer?

JOhn: Well sorry...

Or some other similar cirCUMstances. but i hope the point was clear.


Am i the only 1 that things u can't base a relationship off sex?


How many other gay ( not excludin bi boiz) out there believe u should be somewhat commitied b4 sex. Like as in wait a few b4 u jump in the sac. think is this some1 i want to be with, or is this some1 i want to use fer a booty call.


So again...Raverboi...this not aimed personally at you. I just know wayyy to many guys who believe in sex 1st, then commitment.

I was brought up that it was commitment then sex.( but we all have our slut phases, but those that are lookin for something more meaningful..this is aimed at you)

Does any1 agree with me, or am I Doomed to get bashed for my comments?


*cowers in the corner beggin lucas to protect me*


CuDdLePiMp


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SMILE-- IT IS THE SECOND BEST
THING YOU DO WITH YOUR MOUTH
- - - - AND CURIOUSITY KILLED
THE CAT THEREFORE NO MORE PussY :)

[vtom]

cuddleboi - you always make me wanna post ;-)

I hear you and agree - at least that these are what the 'options' always seem like....either have sex right away and 'risk' no commitment afterwards OR wait in the hopes it will give a real relationship a chance to develop etc....

but personally I don't know if this makes any sense.....it makes it seem like the guy who deos wanna have sex right away isnt interested in a relationship anyway - but if the other guy 'holds off' so to speak and 'waits' (presumably he would either a) be wanting to kick it just as much but keep it in check or b) not really want to right off the bat except as a way to 'please' the other person) - isnt that kind of phony unless they talk about it?....imo......

I guess i just dont believe in that 'these are the options' approach....and what excercising one or the other of them means or implies.......

it just makes it seem so little house on the prairie - if i dont wait - he will think Im a slut....DUH all guys are deep down so why act like we aren't? (at least in libido - not necessarily in action....).....if I go ahead and do it then he will be gone - well I say good cause i guess he wasnt the one anyway right? and at least you got some in the meantime while you still look for mr right....otherwise it really seems more like a game where your trying to leverage sex for a relationship because its believed that this is what the other person wants or is what will keep someone interested - but this also seems like it makes sex anything but a natural feeling that arises ;-) ahem and can be appreciated and sort of makes it a commodity......I say FOOEY ;-)......everyone is different - incl gay guys and we all are coming from a different perspective etc....sure sometimes ya wanna get a little......and sometimes you meet someone you wanna date so you take it a little slower....and sometimes you meet someone you REALLY wanna spend some time with and they make you go hmmmmm.....two or three car garage.....but i also dont think that how it went in the very beginning will determine that stuff either....Im sure there are happy long term couples out there who joke about how they did it the first night they met etc......Ill shutup now...vt

[lucas]

no protection from me, cuddle-pimp.

i don't agree with such a strong devision. relationships can toatlly start as a one night stand, and they can just as easily start as a friendship. it simply depends on the people. if it's meant to be, it'll happen. you can't force it. as long as you both know what's going on, have fun! not that i'm an advocate for one-nighters (or test-shots, as i like to call them), i'm just saying that i don't have a problem with them. i'm kind of a prude myself. i'll make out, grope, get naked, etc., but fucking is reserved for the special boys.

ok. this is getting personal.

ciao ragazzi. penso che questa linia e non piu bene. credo che tutto c'e qui sono in un altro posto.

[lucas]

ps.... i want to meet you burlie. are you going to be at surprize?

[BurliE Boy]

marquis~ awww *blushes* well... i'm gonna get a couple people together, and i'm gonna go to seattle the weekend of your party =o) give me more info kays? dood... i have SOO much to tell you!!

lucas~ yeah i am. don't know how i'll get there yet, but i will! yah, it'd be cool to meet ya =o) email me n stuff like that

*Brandon*
AIM: BurliE Boy

[Hatboi78]

tommE...well well. i had a feelin u were goin to bite the bait on this hook. And once again..as much as i hate to say it..yer right. :P so there! it just does depend on who the people are and such. Maybe what i am lookin for is some1 similar in beliefs to me. but don;t get me wrong...we ALL done our dirt. But u do give me a NEW way of thinkin and approaching similar situations.

Lucas...U r also right. For example..my friend mike met his bf of like 4 or 5yrs from a 1nite stand and even in a bathhouse. So "test-shots( hehe) can evolve into more. But also...waht about the opposite side of that? cause personally i did think that is how i would get some1. i fig if "put-out" fast. something would happen. WRONG WRONG WRONG! i was just left with empty dreams and promises...not to mention a empty bed. but its all good. besides...he was a pre-me.
hehe

Burlie...EMAIL ME YOU ASS!! I am gettin my comp fixed soon. I hope. But i dunno if u heard but mah b day party is cancelled fer now. I am movin the date when there isn't soo many parties goin on. Well i will be at JELLY BEANS to celebrate it. ANd i will be at Dynamo. So let me know if u r goin to either 1.

OMG! OMG! I got a idea....me, you, and lucas can all kik it at dynamo. OMG! we can be da fag patrol or sum sheet. hehe. yea but we all need to hang out or meet atleast. images/smilies/smile.gif

[lucas]

.m.

just a quick responce... you can't put out hoping to get more than what you're getting. that's not what i mean. if you have a really good time with the person and decide to hang out again, things could grow into something more substancial. but it's impossible to get more from sex than sex.

when is dynamo?

burlie... if you need a ride to surprise, any friend of the big hatter could possibly
be a friend of mine.

[kjorb]

wooop-woop
hey lucas...ummmm i dont got no clue whacha look like but if i see you maybe we can talka bout pdxxx late night coalition.

oh and yeah sexxx is sex but there are lots o types of sexxx

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[boy christe]

marquis: we can talk tomorrow night. did you hear about me and my six-hour "tent make=out" thing? don't beleive everything until we chat!

love boy yummie

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the peanut butter pirate and under-cover duck who would be all over lucas if given the opportunity!

*boy_christe@yahoo.com[-]aim:boychriste[-]tghmh:PinkChik*

[ReD-DoG]

Hatboi! HEYA! whats up? I totally agree w/ you. Man I have agreed w/ alot of gay boi's tonight.. here and at work. Maybe its a sign. Maybe..... But I dun need sex right away. Just get to know a person work it out. But every time I come close to that with one person something happens and bois start coming out of the woodworks. I try hard to not do anything with more than just one if even that. But when I'm alone I just want one boy and can get none. But when I find just one boy then I can have one of eight.. WHAT IS GOING ON?!

Love you all to Peaces

Matt

[BurliE Boy]

awww crap. i fucked up. look below

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[CuteRaverBoi24]

So in responce to all this.... I know that it sounded like I was talking about meaningless sex <and I was> but not that kind or with just anyone.... First off with me there has to be some chemistry to begin with before I will do anything with a boi.... which is why my sex life has so many empty slots in it... <6 people> As I stated before, I am always looking for the relationship, but if fun arises before then or while searching then I may take them up on it... If it turns out to be good and fruitful then on to the games....

I can totally understand the whole premis that you were going on Marquis, and Red-Dog... And have practiced that as well in many of my affairs..

btw---

marquis wasn't it you that I was hanging out about a month ago at Dick's Drive-In with your friends and mine right after Sundazed?

Pretty sure it was you but I may be wrong...

if it is you Magen says hi... also if it is you then I have a couple more comments to add later..

Peace
D

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[BurliE Boy]

lucas~ awww =o) thanks, but my car got fixed, so now i'm gonna drive up there with a carload full of eugene peeps. i'll be wearin these jnco pants w/a rhino thingy on the leg, a white tshirt with a lil frog sittin on these easter eggs (it's soo cute), white visor, and a blue da kine backpack. all about the white and blue =oP hope to see ya there!

marquis~ well that just sucks! i dunno if i can afford dynamo... i think i'll have to settle for destination instead

*Brandon*

[vtom]

now goddamnit - why do you have to bait anything to get me talkin?.....and why do you hate to admit it that u agree with me?.....cuddleboi......!!

argh................everyone is on my shitlist today...especially GAYBOIZ who are lookin to get laid and nothing else (marquis - this is seperate from above - im just spewin now - nothing personal)......BUT for some reason we just are all a bunch of little bitches arent we?....cant be real and honest - gotta play games and be sneaky and ulterior......FINE!

im not bitter.....really.......

vbt

[lucas]

i'm a bitch.

[Hatboi78]

ok here we go again. GOD! i swear..all the gay boiz need to get together fer like a luncheon and jus kik it. but to address the following people....


Lucas: I hear ya and i feel ya. But i can't control what other people say. If a guy says he is goin to call and never does, then what can i do. Other than be a somewhat bitter bitch.

Kjorb: lucas is DAMN PHYNE! Wit a capital P.

Boy Christe: Well of course I heard bout it. I read bout it in the stranger I SAW YOU section. lol

Red-dog: GLad some1 is thinkin like me. I mean i am in da sameboat also. And anotehr thing that gets me is when people say the following statement:

"When u want a bf, u won't find 1. SO as soon as u stop lookin, then u find 1"

WTF!

I don't just get it. Ok, say u r a single boi wantin a bf and kinda lookin. I mean u go out to gay bars and clubs and events and raves and talk to other gay guys. Does that classify as lookin when every guy u met u don;t have the instinct being that THIS IS THE 1.

NOw on the otherside of that...there are those who don;t look for a bf. I mean thats the last thing on their mind. ANd then WHAM! they got a man. So how can u not look? I mean i htink it, and i talk to lots of guys. I am a friendly person. So whats goin on with that picture? How do u not look? get a hobby. not think about it what? is not not following through with it, or not being in that mindframe? Red-dog...look fer me at Dynamo. I hear u r comin up. images/smilies/smile.gif

Raverboi...I think there is a IMATATION hatboi out there. I have never been to sundazed b4. Sorry. I never went to dicks drive in, other than fer the usc4 pre meet. But i will be at Jelly beans, and Dynamo, and maybe sundazed on sunday, or go to the bumbershoot. Whichever 1's wes drags me to.

Buelie: ujsut hurt my feelings. images/smilies/frown.gif Ucan;t afford it? Well how bout i help u rob Habib at the corner 7 11? images/smilies/smile.gif DAMN! fer a boi that i never met...i am sure all up on yer jock huh? images/smilies/smile.gif

TommE....man...lay off the prozac sweety. Its all good. calm down. Breathe in...and out. images/smilies/smile.gif
What do u mean by honest? i can honestly say i want a bf. Anotehr gay boi can honestly say he just wants a friend. ANd another can honestly say he wants to just fucK? I havn't met many gay guys that hgave said " HEY! i just want to fuck" and then end up in a relationship wit the other. SO xplain the whole honesty to me and how it went wrong. OH! and i remember ny friend said the funniestr thing to me the other day.

" U can fuck me like a bitch, but i be DAMNED if u talk to me like 1"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Lucas: the key phrasing there is...

YOUR MY BITCH!

*pinchin lucas's ass*


I am glad we have VERY opinionated gay guys on the board. We all should kik it 1x or something.



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- - - - AND CURIOUSITY KILLED
THE CAT THEREFORE NO MORE PussY :)

[CuteRaverBoi24]

Well Hatboi sorry that it wasn't you at Dick's drive in... It was a Marquis though, cute little black boi, who at the time was very drunk.... <and I met him at USC4 he shared some of his delicious strawberries with me while waiting for the rave to start> I enjoyed the company of him and his friends until the cops came and they ran away... He hadn't gone to Sundazed either I had and was just hangin on the "hill" until I decided to head back to Bellingham.... So sorry for the confusion... And about mixin you guys up....

Um oh yeah all of us gay boi's chillin sometime sure..... Sounds great..

Email with further details of this sorid event....

Peace and mad props to the peeps,

D

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[This message has been edited by CuteRaverBoi24 (edited 08-25-2000).]

[vtom]

I'm coolio Marquis - you know me i gotta occasionally throw out a lil spice so I can watch you stir up the pot ;-)

glad your back in form on da board yo :-)

I'm up for a gayboiz meet ....lemme know where and when ....but only if you promise not to bring wesley ;-)

vnsbt

[lucas]

.m. that's hilarious! don't you remember that i thought you were the marcus, i met at usc4 until i met you in real life?

whoa.

[Hatboi78]

Well i think that was me lucas. U nerd boi

remember? cause i was handing out those lil name thingies wit mah # and email on it. THat is how u got a hold of me. So i THINK we DID met at usc. At the end while i was helplessly lookin for my friends.

or am i on crack?

[lucas]

it's the crack, bitch.

i got ahold of you by looking at your profile here, thinking you were him.

[Hatboi78]

hehehe...Raverboi...

I have heard of another gay blaq marquis floatin through seattle. HES A IMPOSTER!

*lol*


I am O.G.

images/smilies/smile.gif


vtom...wesleyt is like my left nutt. I neaver leave home without him. images/smilies/smile.gif

[antiplur superstar]

Hi . . . *waves* Bi boi here. *smiles*

hmmm . . . gay black marcus drunk in front of Dick's on Cap Hill. . . hmmm . . . Did he have dark curly hair? If so I think I know the boy you are talking about. He's no imposter. There's no one else like him.



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Aloha From the Bay Area
Can't wait to see all you kids again. return date: sept 16th

music is my god,
the dj my preacher,
the dance floor my heaven,
and dancing my salvation.

I'm as sober as I can be while still on acid.

All That Glitters Is Cold.
The time has come it is quite clear Our Antiplur Is almost here >=]
ICQ: 54326826 AIM: antiplur SS

[Hatboi78]

DAMN!

i don't feel soo original now. images/smilies/frown.gif

[Hatboi78]

OOPS! hehee

*calls rehab*

HEY! just a new thing...


i got a NEW edition to mah sweet gay boi list.

REd-D0g.
He's sooo nice to talk to. I ahd a blast hangin wiff him @ Dynamo2. If u havn;t met this boi..then do it. U will be charmed by him as i have.

Matt...U R DA BOMB DIGGIDY!



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THING YOU DO WITH YOUR MOUTH
- - - - AND CURIOUSITY KILLED
THE CAT THEREFORE NO MORE PussY :)

[antiplur superstar]

don't worry boi, there's no one quite like you either.

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j@v-E "the jEster"
Aloha From the Bay Area
Can't wait to see all you kids again. return date: sept 16th

music is my god,
the dj my preacher,
the dance floor my heaven,
and dancing my salvation.

I'm as sober as I can be while still on acid.

All That Glitters Is Cold.
The time has come it is quite clear Our Antiplur Is almost here >=]
ICQ: 54326826 AIM: antiplur SS

[Hatboi78]

awwwwe.,....jester is a schweetie images/smilies/smile.gif

[CuteRaverBoi24]

Well now that's all st8end out I am still looking for a nice boi.... And this is the list isn't it?

*wink wink to the Bi boi*

I don't mind Bi or gay just a nice boi would be good....

well peace out


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[antiplur superstar]

*blushes*

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j@v-E "the jEster"
Aloha From the Bay Area
Can't wait to see all you kids again. return date: sept 16th

music is my god,
the dj my preacher,
the dance floor my heaven,
and dancing my salvation.

I'm as sober as I can be while still on acid.

All That Glitters Is Cold.
The time has come it is quite clear Our Antiplur Is almost here >=]
ICQ: 54326826 AIM: antiplur SS

[Hatboi78]

Antiplur....are you even back in Wa yet?


OMG! cuteraverboi...i KINDA have some1 in mind. OH! U WILL BE PLEASED!!!!!

but me gotta cheq wit him though.

[Hatboi78]

Antiplur....are you even back in Wa yet?


OMG! cuteraverboi...i KINDA have some1 in mind. OH! U WILL BE PLEASED!!!!!

but me gotta cheq wit him though.

[antiplur superstar]

SAt. the 16th is my return date. I'm planning on going to submerged if any one wants to meet me, or give me a ride.

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j@v-E "the jEster"
Aloha From the Bay Area
Can't wait to see all you kids again. return date: sept 16th

music is my god,
the dj my preacher,
the dance floor my heaven,
and dancing my salvation.

I'm as sober as I can be while still on acid.

All That Glitters Is Cold.
The time has come it is quite clear Our Antiplur Is almost here >=]
ICQ: 54326826 AIM: antiplur SS

[CuteRaverBoi24]

*startled and surprised*

Yawn....It's to good to be true... I have yet to find someone who is interested in me... Or finds me attractive, or be hit on by someone who is younger than 30....

I must just be destined to end up a lonely old troll....*grimaces with dismay*

Well HatBoi if you feel that you may know someone send them my pic link and than they can say what they think....

I'm interested in meeting people anyway wether or not it turns into a relationship...

Peace OUT!!!!

Mad respect to all of you peeps!!!!

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[antiplur superstar]

I have yet to find someone who is interested in me... Or finds me attractive, or be hit on by someone who is younger than 30....

LOL! I know exactly how you feel. The only ppl who seem to show interest are dirty old men. *shudders*

I wanna meet you. *smiles*


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j@v-E "the jEster"
Aloha From the Bay Area
Can't wait to see all you kids again. return date: sept 16th

music is my god, the dj my preacher, the dance floor my heaven, and dancing my salvation.

I'm as sober as I can be while still on acid.

All That Glitters Is Cold.
The time has come it is quite clear Our Antiplur Is almost here >=]
ICQ: 54326826 AIM: antiplur SS

[CuteRaverBoi24]

* perplexed and a little flirtacious* I have not been hit on once on this board and I take it very kindly that you would like to meet me anti-plur and I would also be interested in meeting a nice boi <as long as it is still in the range of the life giving force known as youth> =)

well Perhaps I am jaded but hey fu*ckem' if they cant take a joke...

I have added you to ICQ and my AIM so please try to get ahold of me when you see me online....

Yo Yo Yo, word to my homies and all that shit.... heh

Peace out brothers...lol


<fureel tho respect to you all out there who are kewl and decent>

D

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[This message has been edited by CuteRaverBoi24 (edited 09-14-2000).]

[CuteRaverBoi24]

Oh Vtom possibly you misunderstood about the age thing....

*vexed and anguished*

It's not that I am obsessed with the age thing, I have a mental block due to things that were beyond my control when I was younger< 3-14yo > that just happened to include a much older person <28 and up> I don't mind older people and I don't think that life ends at 30 for a gay guy, I just like that mental comfort that I have knowing that the person is around my age....

*apologetic*
I mean no-one disrespect and the old -troll comment is that it just seems like that is the only age of people that hit on me....

<friendly>

So in closing I understand and agree with your statements but feel that I need to approach my relationship life from a different stand point...

BTW how old are you???? heh


Peace out

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[vtom]

cuteraverboi - here is a little advice - take it or leave it....if you spend your life giving force time wrapped up in age and obsessing/thinking life is over as a gay guy by 30 then thats the life you will have as well when you get older....

I bet if I hit on you you wouldn't mind it - but hey! I'm too old for you....;-)

vtom

[vtom]

no worries cuteraverboi...

I am 32 as of last week....how old are you?

it's just that it seems like a lot of what your talkin about - personal issues notwithstanding - is a lot of what can be found in the world of 'gay'; the obsession with youth - ie that life giving force - the obsession with youthfulness - and I'm talking about us now....not just you....but it seems that some of these bigger realities are echoed in your post......lets face it we are a subculture that is really out of touch with things like getting older and staying young etc in my opinion....we elevate those elements of us that represent the things that are overemphasised: looks, body, sex, youth, vitality etc - but I think we do that because we are out of touch collectively - out of touch with intergenarational realities...out of touch with the things that constitute people beyond simple looks etc like substance or accomplishment etc....

so no worries - and I stand by my advice: take some time to think about whether or not you buy into the whole unacknowledged notion that life as a gay guy could or should have more to it than living it up while you are young and trying to extend that youth into infinity....and then becoming a bitter old queen unless you find a partner to grow old with....

IMO there is a world of difference between being young and being alive or vital in the way we associate with youth.....

vt

[CuteRaverBoi24]

****VTOM****
I thank you for your candor and approach... I do also feel that I find myself drawn to believe that if you get old alone that there is no happiness.. <eliteism and idealism is a curse> I am not an elitist by no means and a more A-Typical than typical when it comes to the "gay" community...

I stave away from commiting myself to a community which is mostly based on aesthetical values and less and less familial lines that may have once flowed thru it.. <plainly put I am disgusted with the practices of the "gay" community> Not with all people who are gay..

"Pride" "Look at who we've become"
"Diversity" "See how we can ostracize"
"Equality" "we are different but should be treated equally"

These are just some reasons..

I don't look for the A&F bois or the GAP kids, but people with substance and intellect, something more intrinsic and worthwhile...

Age is not as it should be... Age is an attitude <which I am a child, reliving a childhood I wasn't aloud to have>

You can live and have life giving force even when you are 80...

I merely want... I void, an opening, a mutual giddiness, with out someone telling me to grow up or that I need to be serious at times <which I do and have>

32 is not that old.... It has class and knowledge, a sence of a not so long ago forgotten past and if your smart not forgotten at all...

If any of this makes sense I hope it does...

*saddened by loneliness*

I respectfully say g'night..


****Antiplur-Superstar****
Where are you? I haven't seen a reply nor have I seen you online----ICQ/AIM???

Hope to chat with you soon....


Peace



[This message has been edited by CuteRaverBoi24 (edited 09-15-2000).]

[antiplur superstar]

The looksism and ageism has nothing to do with being gay. It has everything to do with the fact that we are a community of men.

CRB: myt comp that has the ICQ and AIM isn't currently connected to the internet but that should change soon.

I'm coming back to sea-town tommorrow. WOOO HOO!

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Aloha From the Bay Area
Can't wait to see all you kids again. return date: sept 16th

music is my god, the dj my preacher, the dance floor my heaven, and dancing my salvation.

I'm as sober as I can be while still on acid.

All That Glitters Is Cold.
The time has come it is quite clear Our Antiplur Is almost here >=]
ICQ: 54326826 AIM: antiplur SS

[CuteRaverBoi24]

Hey glad to see that you are back online.... hehehe.... You should send me an email...

vicanthria@home.com


Peace

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[Elroy]

32!?!?!!!?!?!!?!!!?!?

Good lord!!!!!

Damn... boy looks good for his age! I had no idea... I was thinking more like 25 or so.

Hee hee... images/smilies/smile.gif

So I don't know why I am posting on here right now btw... I'm just drunk and retarded in my room and couldn't think of anything better to do.

[CuteRaverBoi24]

Elroy I hope you are not talking about me.....

*Vents fustration*

Is there a picture of VTOM? I would like to see it....

Every one can see the pic of me... it's on every message....


Heh....

Peace Out

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[vtom]

holy fucking shit you all can die...

"oh no - hey 32 isn't THAT old - I mean you can still hobble down to gay pride and its cool that you can pass on your tales of stonewall and stuff..."

"hey I think it's cool that you have learned to use computers and stuff and all that...even if its too late...."

"I think its neato that you don't listen to society and have the gumption to get out there and dance once in a while - by the wayhow is that hip?"

Elroy - dear sweet lanky ass lurch looking motherfucking sweet boy - I hate you...

I hope you take the wrong train one day an end up in the bronx....at night....after a party......


regardless of if it's because we are men - and by the way how come straight guys aren't so uniformly obsessed with looks and youth - the fact is we have big problems *weez!*....hold up...brb....gotta take my pills....


...ok better....


but we have problems as a community when regardless of your age we all look up to youth....or hold up our sexual youthful prime as the height of life.....and the rest is a slow decline is when we need to stop and realize that we are collectively missing something - and to me that something is being grwon up - not acting grown up - but being grown up....and realizing that maybe we need to figure out what is missing because we are turning to a period in life as the ultimate that is purely physical...looks and youth....

for example - I as a mature, some might say aged gay/bi male - should by all accounts not be at all attracted to say someone like elroy aka hizboy....why? because as an older more mature man it is nearly impossible for me to relate to his youtful sillyness and his high school cheerleader approach to a saturday night - hows my hair oh my god he just looked over here!!!...that sort of stuff...

and of course I'm not....

thats not to say that a part of me wouldnt like to bend his scrawny little ass over and well...anyway...just to teach him about gay mansex the hard way because he deserves it....but that would just make him cry like a sissy I'm sure and then I would feel guilty...

but why is this the exception and not the norm?...

anyway...I would keep rambling but I think I am not making sense....probabaly the alzheimers....

vt

edit--also - antiplurwhatever...ok cool why not explain that and what that means instead of just saying it?...so ok we are a community of men - but its important that you include a community of men who have sex....ie gay...so what is your point?...truthfully - altough I am a little oversensitive, I am really 'ok' with my age - why wouldn't I be? I'm glad I am able to realize for me that what the community I am a part of says a lot implicitly and not so implicitly isnt always what is up for me...

and cuteraverboi - no sweat and chill its ok - elroy was talking about me - god forbid he thinks your 25!!! ;-)....also - i like that you are sucking up to me (kidding) but unfortunately 32 is no guaruntee of class or wisdom or whatever the helll you were talking about, substance or stuff like that...have you ever been to Renton?

its just an age...no big deal...too bad kids today seem to dread getting older so much....not all but some..a lot it seems like...trust me - get ok with gettin older and you'll see it can be totally better in many ways...for example, you can get discount bus AND movie passes? not bad huh?....


also - cuteraver - of course I have pictures of myself...dont most people - why ask around as if someone should have my pic for your personal disposal? your an awfully demanding young fag arent you?

anti yada yada - ask himout man...you guys will make a wonderfully umm..well....typical couple..yeah that sounds good...even tho i hate him - i wish more young queer bois were like elroy - he is almost just like a regular guy...I wish more were.....not all desperate and afraid to deal with people older than 25....its really pretty fucking silly....



[This message has been edited by vtom (edited 09-21-2000).]

[Kricket]

It's ok Vtom, I think you're neato.

Me=17

Me=17=ageist?....nah


I always thought it was funny that people use age as a method to make fun of people. I mean, it's not like it's something you can change...


"Oh look! It's sunny outside! I think I'll be 12!"

So I don't know why we're all held accountable for it...

Oh vell

Vatever

Kricket

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[vtom]

cuteraverboi - i dont give a fuck what you are or arent....but everytime you post you change your tune and tap dance and all that bullshit.....dont you think you are a little young to say what all people are like from this age to that age?....or a little not everyone.....

I never accused you of being an age whore - i dont think that you are any more than most of us....but I'm not gonna sit hear with baited breath waiting for the approval of 20 something head in the cloud fags who think they know whats up with being older when they arent....

and i dont feel bad kricket ;-)...i feel great actually .....why would or should anyone feel bad about what they are? I dont.....:-)

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[CuteRaverBoi24]

Ok+++++ I have heard quite enough... Just to let you know I have not been tap-dancing around this post I have been replying according to what you have posted... Each time from a different agle on the subject matter...

It has never varied from my original post which was merely a bitch that the only people who seem to hit on me are old-trolls.

I also stated the reasons why I feel like a person around my age is beneficial to my mental state ie <past trauma>

I have never once procluded that people who are in their 30's are old... I stated that I would like someone younger than 30...

And furthermore


"dont you think you are a little young to say what all people are like from this age to that age"

this is exactly why older people with this attitude can sometimes suck... Not saying you suck completely, but in this respect in my opinion, you do....

Youth is not with out wisdom or forsite or hindsite... Anyone who makes a statement like "you are not old enough to know what you are talking about" is stupid..

Experience and knowledge comes at any age...

Many of my statements about life are from a experential standpoint.. What I have witnessed, gone-thu personally, and learned..

And yes looking to youth and holding them in high regard is something people should have been doing more of for centuries...

They are the future, we should embrace them and make sure they follow a better path than we did... If this was done more we may have had less problems with todays youth and the state of affairs in the world may be a couple of shades better..

But this all coming from a youth who isn't old enough to see the reality of life or hold an opinion of what that may be...

I should wait to post about this stuff until i'm older than 30..

Peace and mad respect....

Daemon

BTW how do you do that you said: thing you know when you capture what the other person had in their post?? The quote thing....?

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[This message has been edited by CuteRaverBoi24 (edited 09-21-2000).]

[CuteRaverBoi24]

Shit...all that... I am not sucking up to you... And I wasn't woried that elroy was talking about me looking 25, I was talking about looking good... No one ever says I look good so I was embarrassed for this almost compliment that wasn't even directed at me....

As for all this other bullshit about ages... I AM NOT AN AGE WHORE!!!!!

I couldn't care what age the person is as long as they are nice, intelligent, and decent....

I realize that I have a couple of hangups, but that's why I have a therepist <heh>

Life period stops at 21....
lol
in a sense anyway
when you are a kid you want to be 16
then when you get to 16 you want to be 18
then you really want to be 19 so you can go to canada and drink...
then that's not good enough so you cant wait until you are 21 so you can drink every where.
What do you look forward to at 21? 65 so that you can retire..
and from about 30 to 65 you wish you were young again....

<this scenerio may not fit to everybody> but on the general level this is what happens..

It's not just gay guys, or girls...
It's everybody..


Peace and Respect

Daemon

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[vtom]

crb - look man...we could go back and forth for days...

it should be obvious that half of my response was a reaction because I guess I do have some issues being older - should I? of course not....there is no reason in the world that how old you are should be a source of insecurity objectively speaking but there is a subjective side to life as well- but it can be and I bet you understand what I mean even though you are younger than me...maybe its a fear of getting older, I don't really know it's just a guess....but if it is it wouldn't be so out in left field considering the prevelant attitudes that we live with day in and day out as gay men....

I shouldn't have said that you are too young to know about anything ....that wasn't fair...I should have said it's too bad that you have such a set view of how people view life in the different stages of it....I certainly don't see it in those terms...if you really do buy that then it isn't so hard to imagine that that's the life you will have when you get there...so from me to you: do it your way and it might just turn out different than you think...

I am 32 and I am hoping that when I am 50 or 60 or 41 or next year that I will be able to live my life in a way that is fulfilling whatever that means...it's a choice to think that life is about shooting for retirement at 65 and hoping you have saved enough by then to be secure and finally get out of the rat race or whatever...

although I am harshing on you for sounding like you have it all figured out, at the same time I don't mean to come across exactly the same way, but I do mean to disagree because I think it's useful. I will stand by saying that your not in a position to say with any certainty what life at or beyond 30 will be like for you or anyone else because I can look at my own and see it doesn't hold for me so it must not be a lock solid truth and if it's`not why limit yourself to those notions...

and because your not 30 yet...thats just simple logic...

you have tap danced in the sense that you have said you want to date someone your own age for x reason but also have said that age isn't important as long as they are intelligent or decent etc....just sayin...

trust me it is beyond stupid when you have had the experience of being rejected solely on the basis of your age especially when we are talkin about nothing more than a fuck, I mean give me a break - and so my experiences are a factor just like yours are...I never said that becasue of someones age they don't have knowledge or experience or wisdom etc. And its great that you care about future generations but you are just as much the future as I am and as kricket is and as anyone else is...I know that we all benefit and so does our future whatever it turns out to be if we are all in on it together...that doesnt mean we all need to sleep together and if thats the main thing that comes to mind then we definitely need some soul searching as gay men....all of us...

despite my obvious issues - I really am thrilled that i feel the way i do and am 32 because its confirmation for me that maybe all that bullshit about getting older isn't true after all...

I think it says a lot that guys who are 22 or 25 or 21 for gods sake even think about getting older - when I was 21 the thought never crossed my mind....so to me that says that our subculture has some serious thinking to do about what we think collectively - becasue I don't buy that it is simply becasue we are a community of men....and I don't buy that it's just as simple as that people have always looked to youth....that's an oversimplification born out of a resigned acceptance of something that maybe doesn't have to be that way....society isn't the same as it has always been so that argument ie that it's always been this way doesn't work for me - we are intelligent enough people to see the folly in elevating youth at the expense of so much else....

without sounding too cocky - because deep down I'm insecure just like everyone else - on a very practical level it is sucha shame that some guys are so turned off by age - if the world was a little bit more open the flavors would be a little bit richer for all of us...I can tell on those occasions when I have been rejected simply on the basis of my age it was there loss ;-)...ok mad props to me right? fuck em if they cant take a joke though right?...I could introduce you to a friend of mine who is 37 and who would not only make you drool he would also cook you the fattest french dinner you ever had and he acts like a 37 year old....go figure...

but I agree with you that age isn't nearly as important as something like the person...I know I have ragged on him from time to time but someone like elroy aka sam who is a mere 'boy' at 18 is in all honesty a lot more mature than a lot of guys a lot older - that's why to even worry about age seems pointless....ok make sure they have an ID and have registered for the selective service but beyond that I think it should be about the person in the sense of what are they like or physical attraction or vibe or whatever but it seems like a lot of guys have those rules in place that might prevent meeting someone who they never would have otherwise - if you know what kind of guys you like then what does the age matter? to me that almost suggests (and I am not accusing you of doing this - I am talking in generalizations)a fear on the part of a lot of guys about not wanting to even have to deal with the age issue and that in fact it is an issue...and to be fair I do think that there is something too be said for at least allowing for someone a bit older to maybe know some things you don't and yes because of age....thats not to say you should assume it or be disingenuous about it if the person turns out to have no more to offer than anyone else just because they are older....but from my experience a lot of times its a truth....not necessarily an all encompassing one or deep and profound but still a truth and it could be in very specific ways or more generalized life ways but still...yeah I know I write books and my bad for that...but I think there should be room for that at he very least...why? because I have seen the truth of it in my own life....

vtom

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[vtom]

antiplur - I hear you but did you read my last post?...

it doesn't sound like it - like I said I am really OK with my age...no waking up one day etc....and no lurking in any shadows either....

the stuff about elroy was an inside joke to elroy....so relax

and my point about the straight men was because it seemed like you were implying that we as a community have nothing to worry about because we are so obsessed with looks and youth, that thats a normal state of affairs because we are men and ultimately just the way things are...well I disagree; it may be that way for a lot of men ie that we are guided by looks but get real too, you make it seem like every male over 40 is out trolling regardless of if they are str8 or gay - and even if that were the case I would still say that it's bullshit - if you want to accept that go for it...are you all happy with the way we as a community view things like looks and age at the expense of so much else?......no worries - sorry you got caught up in my overreaction.....but don't change your tune and make it all pretty either - the old troll thing can be a sad reality I agree but your attitude towards it isn't going to help anything it will only help perpetuate that in the gay community...

antiplur - I don't take attacks lightly either even if its just percieved.....so no big deal really....

you seem like a smart guy - so maybe you should think about how useful advice like 'be happy' is....I am happy...will you be when your 40 is the question and if not why?....I can't say and neither can you but I think it's energy well spent myself to think about it - these realities will never just disappear on their own from the community....

vtom

[antiplur superstar]

*taken a back by the sudden attack on my person*

regardless of if it's because we are men - and by the way how come straight guys aren't so uniformly obsessed with looks and youth
Oh please are you seriously posing this question? How many older straight men have you seen with some young vixen on there arm? Tons! Most men straight or other wise are driven by what they see.

it is nearly impossible for me to relate to his youtful sillyness and his high school cheerleader approach to a saturday night - hows my hair oh my god he just looked over here!!!...that sort of stuff...
Ageism is a sad thing no mater which direction it is facing.

and of course I'm not....
Isn't there a point in that? Could it be that I'm not nessicarily attracted to older men because we are at different points in our lives not just because he is older. I've seen and met tons of attractive older men (I even tried to date one this summer, but he turned into a flake images/smilies/frown.gif ), but I 'm generally not interested because I know it won't work for practicle reasons.

cool why not explain that and what that means instead of just saying it?...so ok we are a community of men - but its important that you include a community of men who have sex....ie gay
First off I wanna say that I in no way condone the lookism I was speaking of, I was just putting it out there as a matter of fact. And like I said b/for it has nothing to do with being gay or straight, it has everything to do with being horny guys. Straight men are just as odsessed with getting the young pretty girl as gay men are wiht getting the young buck. The only diff is that they have to have sex with girls while we have sex with each ohter and that ampliphies the effect to the ump-teenth degree. Ithought that would be understood but I guess you no what happens when you assume . . . .

you guys will make a wonderfully umm..well....typical couple
ewwwww. . . . I'm not quite sure how to take that but I'm pretty sure that I don't like it.

i wish more young queer bois were like elroy - he is almost just like a regular guy...I wish more were.....not all desperate and afraid to deal with people older than 25....its really pretty fucking silly....
You don't know me and with that attitude I don't think you can hope to know me. Make no assumption about me utill you have acttually have met me. For example I'm trying no to believe the you are a bitter gay man not dealing well with the aging process even though you really aren't old but is simply afraid the the ppl coming after you think of you the way you did the ppl who came before you.

vtom I'm sure your a nice guy and not just some over sensative b . . . I wan't say it, but franckly I don't take attacks on my person lightly esp from someone who doesn't even know me. So you woke up one day and realized you were 32. SO WHAT! We all realize that this doesn't mean you life is over. We realize this doesn't mea you have to lurk in the shadows. (the question is do you realize it?) You are still young. So what if some ppl don't realize that. Do you need there aproval anyway? NO! So get over it and live you life.

Be happy all this bullshit takes up to much energy anyway

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[antiplur superstar]

it may be that way for a lot of men ie that we are guided by looks but get real too, you make it seem like every male over 40 is out trolling regardless of if they are str8 or gay

So you concede my point. I said MOST men which speaks to the majority not the whole. I never said nor did I imply that all men are like that.

if you want to accept that go for it

I never said that I accepted it. In fact I never past judgement on it at all. I was simply pointing it out as that state of affairs. I think lookism is a bad thing, even though I get pulled into it to. We all do.

are you all happy with the way we as a community view things like looks and age at the expense of so much else?

In all honesty I don't concider myself part of the "gay community" so I rarely involve my self with the drama contained with in.

but don't change your tune and make it all pretty either

When did I cahnge my tune?

the old troll thing can be a sad reality I agree but your attitude towards it isn't going to help anything it will only help perpetuate that in the gay community...

What does my attitude have to do with "old trolls?"

so maybe you should think about how useful advice like 'be happy' is

In all honesty it was ment to sound trite.

will you be when your 40 is the question and if not why?....

If I am unhappy I somehow dought it will be my looks that will be bringing me down. The are so many more things to be unhappy about at 40 other than failing looks. Mine were never that great to start out with so I have very li'l to lose.

you seem like a smart guy

Yeah a compliment!
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