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Patriot Act Part 2
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Exclamation Patriot Act Part 2

SECTION 123 restates that the government no longer
needs warrants and that the investigations can be a
giant dragnet-style sweep described in press reports
about the Total Information Awareness Network. One
passage reads, ãthus the focus of domestic
surveillance may be less precise than that directed
against more conventional types of crime.ä

*Note: Over and over again, in subsection after
subsection, the second Patriot Act states that its new
Soviet-type powers will be used to fight international
terrorism, domestic terrorism and other types of
crimes. Of course the government has already announced
in Section 802 of the first USA Patriot act that any
crime is considered domestic terrorism.

SECTION 126 grants the government the right to mine
the entire spectrum of public and private sector
information from bank records to educational and
medical records. This is the enacting law to allow
ECHELON and the Total Information Awareness Network to
totally break down any and all walls of privacy.

The government states that they must look at
everything to ãdetermineä if individuals or groups
might have a connection to terrorist groups. As you
can now see, you are guilty until proven innocent.

SECTION 127 allows the government to takeover
coronersâ and medical examinersâ operations whenever
they see fit. See how this is like Bill Clintonâs
special medical examiner he had in Arkansas that ruled
that people had committed suicide when their arms and
legs had been cut off.

SECTION 128 allows the Federal government to place gag
orders on Federal and State Grand Juries and to take
over the proceedings. It also disallows individuals or
organizations to even try to quash a Federal subpoena.
So now defending yourself will be a terrorist action.

SECTION 129 destroys any remaining whistleblower
protection for Federal agents.

SECTION 202 allows corporations to keep secret their
activities with toxic biological, chemical or
radiological materials.

SECTION 205 allows top Federal officials to keep all
their financial dealings secret, and anyone
investigating them can be considered a terrorist. This
should be very useful for Dick Cheney to stop anyone
investigating Haliburton.

SECTION 303 sets up national DNA database of suspected
terrorists. The database will also be used to ãstop
other unlawful activities.ä It will share the
information with state, local and foreign agencies for
the same purposes.

SECTION 311 federalizes your local police department
in the area of information sharing.

SECTION 313 provides liability protection for
businesses, especially big businesses that spy on
their customers for Homeland Security, violating their
privacy agreements. It goes on to say that these are
all preventative measures ö has anyone seen Minority
Report? This is the access hub for the Total
Information Awareness Network.

SECTION 321 authorizes foreign governments to spy on
the American people and to share information with
foreign governments.

SECTION 322 removes Congress from the extradition
process and allows officers of the Homeland Security
complex to extradite American citizens anywhere they
wish. It also allows Homeland Security to secretly
take individuals out of foreign countries.

SECTION 402 is titled ãProviding Material Support to
Terrorism.ä The section reads that there is no
requirement to show that the individual even had the
intent to aid terrorists.

SECTION 403 expands the definition of weapons of mass
destruction to include any activity that affects
interstate or foreign commerce.

SECTION 404 makes it a crime for a terrorist or ãother
criminalsä to use encryption in the commission of a
crime.

SECTION 408 creates ãlifetime paroleä (basically,
slavery) for a whole host of crimes.

SECTION 410 creates no statute of limitations for
anyone that engages in terrorist actions or supports
terrorists. Remember: any crime is now considered
terrorism under the first Patriot Act.

SECTION 411 expands crimes that are punishable by
death. Again, they point to Section 802 of the first
Patriot Act and state that any terrorist act or
support of terrorist act can result in the death
penalty.

SECTION 421 increases penalties for terrorist
financing. This section states that any type of
financial activity connected to terrorism will result
to time in prison and $10-50,000 fines per violation.

SECTIONS 427 sets up asset forfeiture provisions for
anyone engaging in terrorist activities.

There are many other sections that I did not cover in
the interest of time. The American people were shocked
by the despotic nature of the first Patriot Act. The
second Patriot Act dwarfs all police state legislation
in modern world history.

Usually, corrupt governments allow their citizens lots
of wonderful rights on paper, while carrying out their
jackbooted oppression covertly. From snatch and grab
operations to warantless searches, Patriot Act II is
an Adolf Hitler wish list.

You can understand why President Bush, Dick Cheney and
Dennis Hastert want to keep this legislation secret
not just from Congress, but the American people as
well. Bill Allison, Managing Editor of the Center for
Public Integrity, the group that broke this story,
stated on my radio show that it was obvious that they
were just waiting for another terrorist attack to
opportunistically get this new bill through. He then
shocked me with an insightful comment about how the
Federal government was crafting this so that they
could go after the American people in general. He also
agreed that the FBI has been quietly demonizing
patriots and Christians and ãthose who carry around
pocket Constitutions.ä

I have produced two documentary films and written a
book about what really happened on September 11th. The
bottom line is this: the military-industrial complex
carried the attacks out as a pretext for control.
Anyone who doubts this just hasnât looked at the
mountains of hard evidence.

Of course, the current group of white collar criminals
in the White House might not care that we're finding
out the details of their next phase. Because, after
all, when smallpox gets released, or more buildings
start blowing up, the President can stand up there at
his lectern suppressing a smirk, squeeze out a tear or
two, and tell us that ãSee I was right. I had to take
away your rights to keep you safe. And now itâs your
fault that all of these children are dead.ä >From that
point on, anyone who criticizes tyranny will be
shouted down by the paid talking head government
mouthpieces in the mainstream media.

You have to admit, itâs a beautiful script.
Unfortunately, it's being played out in the real
world. If we donât get the word out that government is
using terror to control our lives while doing nothing
to stop the terrorists, we will deserve what we get -
tyranny. But our children wonât deserve it.
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I've had a feeling since I watched the towers fall that this was all set-up by our own government to gain control & destroy our freedoms. Most people think that theory is crazy but....seems like the most obvious one to me.

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its was what i thought when it happened and as i have dug deeper
the truth has been revealed-as a layers get peeled from an onion
you can also go to www.williamcooper.com for the background details to why this is all happening
the GOV'T says its for our own good?
whose good?
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Is this actually enstated or is it something that Bush is TRYING to pass? basically, what the hell can we as the American People DO to prevent it or overturn it? The Constitution was written for a reason, and nothing like this that has ever been passed has lasted for long.
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We need a revoltuion. I would willingly give my life to my country and my people... but not my government. It no longer represents the people. It's been twisted a million and one ways.
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bwahaha! man, you people are suckers if you believe this shit without doing a bit of your own investigating. Here's what I was able to realize after reading both posts on this, a bit of internet investigation and some rational thinking (btw....Patriot Act will have no impact on your life if you're not a terrorist or supporting them):

Alex Jones, the original author of this nonsense didn't provide a complete copy of the proposed Act. He only gives you his conspired interpretation of a few sections of the act so that you can believe that the government is out to get you. Here is a link to the real Act so you can read it for yourself and draw an educated opinion rather than believing what some nut-job is telling you

go to this link first: http://www.politicalhobbyist.com/deb...alexjones.html

Then read the Patriot Act: www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

I went to the website of the nut-job that this crap info originally came from ( www.infowars.com ) and found out just what I had suspected.....the guy that posted this pathetic interpratation of the Patriot Act is a wacko conspiracy theorist. He's the type of guy that takes real news and dreams up crazy twists to it to make you think it's all part of an evil plan that the New World Order/ iluminati is going to take over the world, implant chips in your teeth, start a police state..blah blah blah. He's the kind of guy that the Michigan Militia supports. Go to his website and you'll see for yourself...this guy is a run of the mill fruitcake that lives off of the paranoid American's dollar.
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as quacky as you may say this guy is he has a lot of valid observations. What he decides based upon them is his own, we'll make our own deciscions as well.

As for the patriot act it really has many problems, and I'm sure it "only affects terrorists" but look at drug busts, rave raids, even house parties have been taken down on this. The world is becoming a crazy place to live.
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BTW
patriot#1 act already passed
#2 is about to pass
and if you read the seperate sections
you will see that its a very wide umbrella that covers all of us-world wide!!!
and that they-are empowered to interpret the constitution as they see fit
the conspiracy(nuts)in the past spoke of such things going down and the things they revealed have come to pass-not all-but many
so take what these(nuts)have to say to heart
and let your heart decide
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Subsection 805 Article A States that no longer are you entitled to a speedy trial by a jury of your peers in a public court of law. It also states that you may be tried on any crime as a terrorist act. It also states that if being tried on a crime classified as a terrorist act it will be ILLEGAL for you to provide defense for yourself, either in the form of an attourney or self-representation. It also states that you no longer have the right to post bail. It also provides that you be held indefinitely in undisclosed locations without public notice. It also provides that you can be transported without notice by government officials to undisclosed locations to be secretly tried in a military court before military judges and without a jury of any kind present.
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We need a revoltuion. I would willingly give my life to my country and my people... but not my government. It no longer represents the people. It's been twisted a million and one ways.
It's in the notes to the U.S. constitution authored by Thomas Jefferson that "when the government become the governed and the government is no longer with the people, or rule becomes tyrranical, not only is it the right of the people, but it is their obligation to revolt."
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